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Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 0	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:42:30 - [1] - Quote I have decided to defeat the New Order by starting a Rebel movement that doesn't suck like all those that have come before. I would like to ask all of the kind players here in general discussion to brainstorm ideas to defeat this criminal organization. The best will be considered for implementation. It would help for those that have been wronged by CODE to share their stories here along with what they are willing to do to help the cause.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 6506	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:44:46 - [2] - Quote The Code always wins. When you rise up to face them, the Code still wins. Especially when you rise up to face them. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Christopher AET hirr Northern Coalition. 900	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:45:08 - [3] - Quote Getting In Early. Dis gonna be good. I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance.
Omnathious Deninard Novis Initiis 2712	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:46:45 - [4] - Quote Take some low sec, or create your own sov empire, or move to a WH. CODE loses with those options.
Robert Elarik Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:46:51 - [5] - Quote You can try, many before you have. They also failed, horribly. There is no defeating the New Order, as the Code always wins.
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 4652	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:48:30 - [6] - Quote Please actually bring fights this time, getting sick of "rebels" that sit in stations and whinge. Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
Tisiphone Dira New Order Logistics CODE. 129	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:50:56 - [7] - Quote "It would help for those that have been wronged by CODE to share their stories" sniffs this one time, I was out miiiiining, and then the new order agent came, and said that that was enouuuuuugh, that I had to leave some for the other childreeeeen. I said noooo, I wasn't dooooone, but then then agent said I was, and he pushed me off the asteroiiiids, waaaaahaaahaaaa.
Samoth Egnoled 56183	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:52:31 - [8] - Quote Well I guess that rules out a covert attack... Have you thought that this might be what they are after? Also announcing your dastardly plan to your enemy is very cliche. Mini me, fire the "Laser" The slow blade penetrates the shield. Green Skull LLC - Louder than God's revolver and twice as shiny!
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 0	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:52:47 - [9] - Quote This will be like no other Rebel force that has yet challenged the space claimed by James 315. Results will be measured in outcomes over time, with the ultimate outcome of complete domination over the New Order even if it takes years and many billions of isk to realize. I am in this for the long haul. I can't promise anything in particular as we will wage war against the New Order in ways and times of our choosing. For starters, I'm not a complete idiot like all the other rebel commanders before me. And I bring to the table lots of CODE. experience.
Robert Elarik Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:52:47 - [10] - Quote Tisiphone Dira wrote: "It would help for those that have been wronged by CODE to share their stories" sniffs this one time, I was out miiiiining, and then the new order agent came, and said that that was enouuuuuugh, that I had to leave some for the other childreeeeen. I said noooo, I wasn't dooooone, but then then agent said I was, and he pushed me off the asteroiiiids, waaaaahaaahaaaa. The sad thing being that stories like this are fairly accurate.. I love miners, and their silly justifications for their actions.
Sabriz Adoudel Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 4652	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:54:57 - [11] - Quote Held, I would like to offer you a one time chance to get in the Saviour's good books. For a payment of 30 million ISK and a sincere apology for your rebel activity, you will be able to be forgiven and become a permit holder for one year (unless your permit is revoked because you participate in unauthorized rebellion again). Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 6506	Posted - 2015.02.17 09:59:34 - [12] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: This will be like no other Rebel force that has yet challenged the space claimed by James 315. Results will be measured in outcomes over time, with the ultimate outcome of complete domination over the New Order even if it takes years and many billions of isk to realize. I am in this for the long haul. I can't promise anything in particular as we will wage war against the New Order in ways and times of our choosing. For starters, I'm not a complete idiot like all the other rebel commanders before me. And I bring to the table lots of CODE. experience. Hardly any of the rebel commanders before you were complete idiots. In fact, of the main ones, like Gorilla and his peers, I can't name one that demonstrated stupidity to any major degree. What you all demonstrate from the word go, however, is naivet+¬, which can understandably be misunderstood as stupidity but is definitely not the same thing. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 0	Posted - 2015.02.17 10:03:27 - [13] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Held, I would like to offer you a one time chance to get in the Saviour's good books. For a payment of 30 million ISK and a sincere apology for your rebel activity, you will be able to be forgiven and become a permit holder for one year (unless your permit is revoked because you participate in unauthorized rebellion again). The CODE works in mysterious ways. I earnestly believe that EVE can be improved by a legitimate enemy force that does not completely suck to go up against the New Order. Unlike whiny carebear "leaders" of the past, I will forge a new alliance of smarter, craftier, and at-the-keyboard players to wage war for a common cause. The carebear themepark sickness will be vanquished. But not by making them all permit holders or ganking them into compliance. No, instead by having carebears of highsec everywhere willingly give up their bad ways in favor of being better players. I welcome all suggestions to achieve this glorious victory.
Dave Stark 7360	Posted - 2015.02.17 10:05:29 - [14] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: I have decided to defeat the New Order by starting a Rebel movement that doesn't suck like all those that have come before. hahaha. oh wait, you're serious. hahahhahahaha
Jack Morrison Manson Family Advent of Fate 180	Posted - 2015.02.17 10:11:37 - [15] - Quote One way to beat James315 would be to start writing for the eve news site (named after the goon leader) and write articles with 10+ pages. You will accumulate much hate (which we know is just another variation of love) and James himself might be ashamed by your skill and retire. "This is nothing more than a rumor with no basis of fact. Hope that's enough of a confirmation for you guys. :)" Coolstorybro
MicDeath Titan Titans Guild 93	Posted - 2015.02.17 10:14:14 - [16] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: The Code always wins. When you rise up to face them, the Code still wins. Especially when you rise up to face them. Not true. I actually got kicked out of their TS after politely asking them to come gank my afk miner. All code members I asked refused to gank. All code members in a rather large system with many of them there refused to do it. I mean damn, I only wanted to blow up a damn ship before going afk for several months.
Lucas Kell Internet Terrorists SpaceMonkey's Alliance 5126	Posted - 2015.02.17 10:14:48 - [17] - Quote I'm sick and tired of hearing about them, from both sides. They are a minority group that likes to gank noobs. They aren't the first, they won't be the last. Who cares? Just ignore them and go about your business. The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog. Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list. Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 0	Posted - 2015.02.17 10:15:30 - [18] - Quote Jack Morrison wrote: One way to beat James315 would be to start writing for the eve news site (named after the goon leader) and write articles with 10+ pages. You will accumulate much hate (which we know is just another variation of love) and James himself might be ashamed by your skill and retire. I can write quite a bit. I'm certainly open to a contest between James and myself for word count if there's an interest for that. We'll start with a future blog of my own and see where it all leads. Though he is very skilled, it will be a nice challenge. Great idea! Keep em coming!
Hiasa Kite Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 213	Posted - 2015.02.17 10:15:53 - [19] - Quote IB4 the move. Also, best of luck to the OP. The new Order has never lost a war. You are indeed up against the most elite of PvPers. People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Cagali Cagali, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 0	Posted - 2015.02.17 10:18:29 - [20] - Quote Hiasa Kite wrote: IB4 the move. Also, best of luck to the OP. The new Order has never lost a war. You are indeed up against the most elite of PvPers. I know, check my employment history friend.
Hiasa Kite Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 213	Posted - 2015.02.17 10:21:29 - [21] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: Hiasa Kite wrote: IB4 the move. Also, best of luck to the OP. The new Order has never lost a war. You are indeed up against the most elite of PvPers. I know, check my employment history friend. Oh, I like you! Tell me, did you manage to steal their schedules? People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Cagali Cagali, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 33123	Posted - 2015.02.17 10:33:54 - [22] - Quote In before Doomheim. Good luck to you thoug. Whatever you end up doing, I hope it brings a lot of entertainment to you and everyone involved. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
Rhalina Sedai Notice Has Been Served 2	Posted - 2015.02.17 10:52:04 - [23] - Quote We have heard this said so many times over the last couple of years Held der Finsternis, we shall be watching your endeavours closely over the coming months. Regards Janos.
Alana Charen-Teng Erik Sarn Corporation 529	Posted - 2015.02.17 10:55:43 - [24] - Quote The battle for highsec is fought in the hearts and minds of its citizens. I think you'll need to write a blog to rival Minerbumping.com.
Capt Handbanana Caldari Provisions Caldari State 16	Posted - 2015.02.17 10:56:48 - [25] - Quote LOL, here we go again... I like beer.
ISD Ezwal ISD Community Communications Liaisons 3836	Posted - 2015.02.17 11:09:40 - [26] - Quote This thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment. ISD Ezwal Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 1	Posted - 2015.02.17 11:12:18 - [27] - Quote ISD Ezwal wrote: This thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment. Thank you for your contribution! Ezwal, perhaps you could add some additional suggestions in a hypothetical and neutral stance for how such an effort against an organization such as the New Order could be fruitful? For balance of course, you might offer suggestions to the New Order as well. Thanks everyone, keep the ideas flowing! Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order! Mail me an essay why you are special. Send Full account API. Copy James 315 or your favourite agent in #1. Welcome to the Rebels/Good Guys who will DEFEAT CODE.
Kavoro Pel Erik Sarn Corporation 11	Posted - 2015.02.17 11:36:49 - [28] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: ISD Ezwal wrote: This thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment. Thank you for your contribution! Ezwal, perhaps you could add some additional suggestions in a hypothetical and neutral stance for how such an effort against an organization such as the New Order could be fruitful? For balance of course, you might offer suggestions to the New Order as well. Thanks everyone, keep the ideas flowing! My interpretation of this post is that you have no idea how you're going to defeat the New Order. There's a preview function on the forum, use it before you post to save yourself some embarrassment.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 2	Posted - 2015.02.17 11:45:24 - [29] - Quote Kavoro Pel wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: ISD Ezwal wrote: This thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment. Thank you for your contribution! Ezwal, perhaps you could add some additional suggestions in a hypothetical and neutral stance for how such an effort against an organization such as the New Order could be fruitful? For balance of course, you might offer suggestions to the New Order as well. Thanks everyone, keep the ideas flowing! My interpretation of this post is that you have no idea how you're going to defeat the New Order. You are welcome to interpret anything however you wish. All ideas are welcome! Final Victory is rather simple, really. Highsec carebears will, over time, gravitate to my corp and future alliance. Together as one, we will suffocate the New Order from having any real success. There is no real need to publish a rather extensive roadmap in print as such a display of words would make James' longest articles look short in comparison. Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order! Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
Hiasa Kite Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 214	Posted - 2015.02.17 11:49:21 - [30] - Quote Our Procurers shall blot out the sun! People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Cagali Cagali, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
Neo Kathura New Order of Highsec 50	Posted - 2015.02.17 11:54:52 - [31] - Quote Kavoro Pel wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: ISD Ezwal wrote: This thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment. Thank you for your contribution! Ezwal, perhaps you could add some additional suggestions in a hypothetical and neutral stance for how such an effort against an organization such as the New Order could be fruitful? For balance of course, you might offer suggestions to the New Order as well. Thanks everyone, keep the ideas flowing! My interpretation of this post is that you have no idea how you're going to defeat the New Order. Mine is that he's still a code player trying to gather up a group of anti-code peeps for some kind of scam.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 621	Posted - 2015.02.17 11:56:01 - [32] - Quote Kavoro Pel wrote: My interpretation of this post is that you have no idea how you're going to defeat the New Order. Friend, this one knows exactly what he is doing. I suggest all rebels serious about opposing the New Order get behind Held and his new rebel organization. Not only has he proven himself by fire as an elite PvPer and thus capable of leading a rag-tag bunch of highsec players against James 315, his inside knowledge of the power structures of CODE. give him an advantage all the previous (and failed) rebel leaders didn't have. Who wouldn't want to get in on the ground floor of such a classic tale of redemption? Personally, I have accepted James 315 as my personal saviour and therefore have picked my side, but for all those on the fence, or already openly fighting the New Order, Held is your man. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Hiasa Kite Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 214	Posted - 2015.02.17 11:57:38 - [33] - Quote Neo Kathura wrote: Kavoro Pel wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: ISD Ezwal wrote: This thread has been moved to Crime & Punishment. Thank you for your contribution! Ezwal, perhaps you could add some additional suggestions in a hypothetical and neutral stance for how such an effort against an organization such as the New Order could be fruitful? For balance of course, you might offer suggestions to the New Order as well. Thanks everyone, keep the ideas flowing! My interpretation of this post is that you have no idea how you're going to defeat the New Order. Mine is that he's still a code player trying to gather up a group of anti-code peeps for some kind of scam. Shh! You're ruining the elite PvP! People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Cagali Cagali, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
Intar Medris Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 224	Posted - 2015.02.17 12:04:51 - [34] - Quote This again The best way to defeat CODE well let's see? How about just ignoring them. Reallyy they are just a bunch role-playing gankers. Been ganked once the whole time I have played EVE, and perhaps had one fail ganking attempt long before that. Still trying to figure out what happened with that one. Because the would be ganker ended up punting my Hulk over 100km from him when he warped in. Guess what? Neither the possible attempt or the successful gank was by CODE. Getting close to 5 years in EVE and only one gank. Yeah gankers are only a problem if you are complete idiot, and decide to conduct your business where they are active. Wonder how many gank victims on the CODE KB are repeat victims? I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 3	Posted - 2015.02.17 12:19:44 - [35] - Quote Intar Medris wrote: This again The best way to defeat CODE well let's see? How about just ignoring them. Reallyy they are just a bunch role-playing gankers. Been ganked once the whole time I have played EVE, and perhaps had one fail ganking attempt long before that. Still trying to figure out what happened with that one. Because the would be ganker ended up punting my Hulk over 100km from him when he warped in. Guess what? Neither the possible attempt or the successful gank was by CODE. Getting close to 5 years in EVE and only one gank. Yeah gankers are only a problem if you are complete idiot, and decide to conduct your business where they are active. Wonder how many gank victims on the CODE KB are repeat victims? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5497455 I will need to later post the New Code here I suppose. Ezwal failed to see the obvious distinction between the threads. Sigh... Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order! Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
Crumplecorn Eve Cluster Explorations 1988	Posted - 2015.02.17 12:25:12 - [36] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: The carebear themepark sickness will be vanquished. But not by making them all permit holders or ganking them into compliance. No, instead by having carebears of highsec everywhere willingly give up their bad ways in favor of being better players. Held der Finsternis wrote: I welcome all suggestions to achieve this glorious victory. Pick a different target demographic. Witty Image - Stream Not Liking this post hurts my RL feelings and will be considered harassment
Damjan Fox Fox Industries and Exploration 93	Posted - 2015.02.17 12:29:00 - [37] - Quote Ok, let's see... Quote: I have decided to defeat the New Order by starting a Rebel movement that doesn't suck like all those that have come before. Fair enough. Sounds like a man with enthusiasm and a plan. Quote: I would like to ask all of the kind players here in general discussion to brainstorm ideas to defeat this criminal organization. Uhm, wait... So you actually have no clue how you're going to " defeat the New Order" ? No masterplan behind all this, no grand plan? Not a good start for a rebellion leader, i would say. You were part of them, you had insight in their work. YOU should be the one, explaining all the poor little retriever pilots, how you plan on accomplishing all that, not the other way around. And i thought, your "Rebel movement ... doesn't suck like all those that have come before." But anyway, i wish you good luck with your rebellion. Hopefully it will result in a lot of fun content for both sides. Regards, Damjan
ggodhsup relocation LLC. 58	Posted - 2015.02.17 12:34:09 - [38] - Quote definitely a scam, but ill bite. grab veers, ill bet he has some clever idea to beat CODE., curretnly he trolls C&P with wreckless and i mean wreckless abandon. aside from that, you have to actually engage them in combat to "defeat" them, which i have and im sure other have seen very little of. aside from the elite pve crowd that veers surrounds himself with hiring merc corps to do exactly what you are trying to organize, no one will take up arms against them. wonder why that is?....they are all -10. actually its amazing how little fun i get from being outlaw....it seems only other outlaws are willing to have a go. either way, CODE. has billions upon billions at their disposal....i hope your "rebel" force can field that kind of monetary power. otherwise, you are just creating more content for them, and more tears for C&P.
Valkin Mordirc 646	Posted - 2015.02.17 12:38:51 - [39] - Quote Oh great, another CODE thread in C&P. What this makes this CODE thread 201? 203? Somewhere around that. And look. Another White Knight claiming they can defeat CODE. That makes this what? 5201...34? You do realize that CODE. is not a group, or a community right? It's an entity that reflects a mechanic in the game. To actually Defeat CODE. You have to force the mechanic to be banned. Which isn't happening. Also CODE. is an Idea. An idea focused on mainly the fact that Highsec isn't safe. It's a lot harder to defeat an idea then it is to defeat an entity. So yeah, Good luck breaking a highly popular and expected ideal the most of EvE players accept. Also just by posting here, CODE. Wins By trying, failing, being around CODE. Fitting an anti-gank BB, anti bump bump Mach or anything anti-CODE. related. CODE. Wins. EDIT: Just saw he was ex CODE. Calling it a scam now `#DeleteTheWeak`
Intar Medris Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 225	Posted - 2015.02.17 12:41:04 - [40] - Quote ggodhsup wrote: definitely a scam, but ill bite. grab veers, ill bet he has some clever idea to beat CODE., curretnly he trolls C&P with wreckless and i mean wreckless abandon. aside from that, you have to actually engage them in combat to "defeat" them, which i have and im sure other have seen very little of. aside from the elite pve crowd that veers surrounds himself with hiring merc corps to do exactly what you are trying to organize, no one will take up arms against them. wonder why that is?....they are all -10. actually its amazing how little fun i get from being outlaw....it seems only other outlaws are willing to have a go. either way, CODE. has billions upon billions at their disposal....i hope your "rebel" force can field that kind of monetary power. otherwise, you are just creating more content for them, and more tears for C&P. Had -10 taking the pod taxi somewhere. Chased him for several jumps trying to get a lock and a couple shots off. I failed I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen.
ggodhsup relocation LLC. 58	Posted - 2015.02.17 12:44:54 - [41] - Quote Intar Medris wrote: ggodhsup wrote: definitely a scam, but ill bite. grab veers, ill bet he has some clever idea to beat CODE., curretnly he trolls C&P with wreckless and i mean wreckless abandon. aside from that, you have to actually engage them in combat to "defeat" them, which i have and im sure other have seen very little of. aside from the elite pve crowd that veers surrounds himself with hiring merc corps to do exactly what you are trying to organize, no one will take up arms against them. wonder why that is?....they are all -10. actually its amazing how little fun i get from being outlaw....it seems only other outlaws are willing to have a go. either way, CODE. has billions upon billions at their disposal....i hope your "rebel" force can field that kind of monetary power. otherwise, you are just creating more content for them, and more tears for C&P. Had -10 taking the pod taxi somewhere. Chased him for several jumps trying to get a lock and a couple shots off. I failed MOAR SEBOS! and this is proof, CODE. cannot be defeated.
Myriad Blaze Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda 316	Posted - 2015.02.17 12:58:35 - [42] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: And I bring to the table lots of CODE. experience. I see... your killboard shows that you are a PvP force to be reckoned with, a true PvP expert with amazing experience... CODE agents are probably already trembling in fear... ... now you just need to find a way to get them all into freighters and victory is almost assured. Held der Finsternis wrote: For starters, I'm not a complete idiot Hmm... nah, that's too easy. J'Poll: EVE doesn't hand out cookies to you. EVE kicks you down, steals your cookie and then laughs at you for bringing a cookie in the first place.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 6510	Posted - 2015.02.17 14:30:04 - [43] - Quote MicDeath Titan wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: The Code always wins. When you rise up to face them, the Code still wins. Especially when you rise up to face them. Not true. I actually got kicked out of their TS after politely asking them to come gank my afk miner. All code members I asked refused to gank. All code members in a rather large system with many of them there refused to do it. I mean damn, I only wanted to blow up a damn ship before going afk for several months. This is not rising up to face them. In what way are you challenging them or creating content that they can't create themselves? All you did here was try to assert authority over those simply won't recognise any but their own. In this case, the Code wins by ignoring you. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Demetri Dentrov Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.02.17 14:38:52 - [44] - Quote You cannot defeat "CODE" because they already use optimized strategies and have no resources for you to target. You can't blow up the "CODE secret base" because it's in high sec. You can't "war dec" them, as it puts the onus of looking for them on you. You'll lose just from the time loss. They have no reason to fight a "fair fight" and will just ignore you. Your problem isn't with CODE, it's with the game design that makes their strategies the optimum ones. Don't fall for CCP's deceptive advertising and don't play a game you cannot win.
Hiasa Kite Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 215	Posted - 2015.02.17 14:48:13 - [45] - Quote Demetri Dentrov wrote: You can't "war dec" them, as it puts the onus of looking for them on you. You'll lose just from the time loss. They have no reason to fight a "fair fight" and will just ignore you. It's cute how often people accuse CODE. of avoiding fair fights while propositioning that HiSec criminals should fight them in a scenario that massively favours themselves. People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Cagali Cagali, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1158	Posted - 2015.02.17 14:50:58 - [46] - Quote Welcome, Rebel Commander #245!! Here are the keys to your Secret Rebel Base(tm), and the Secret Schedules of Rebel Commanders #1-244. Have fun and watch out for Jovians of Unusual Size!! gets a beer and calls the bookies Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 621	Posted - 2015.02.17 14:55:40 - [47] - Quote Demetri Dentrov wrote: You cannot defeat "CODE" because they already use optimized strategies and have no resources for you to target. You can't blow up the "CODE secret base" because it's in high sec. You can't "war dec" them, as it puts the onus of looking for them on you. You'll lose just from the time loss. They have no reason to fight a "fair fight" and will just ignore you. Your problem isn't with CODE, it's with the game design that makes their strategies the optimum ones. Don't fall for CCP's deceptive advertising and don't play a game you cannot win. You defeat gankers everytime you safely dock with your cargo or load of ore. Fitting tank, paying attention, bringing escorts all will ensure your victory by keeping your space assets safe. This is not a problem with the game - it is intended by the developers to make fitting choices and mining/hauling behaviour matter in highsec. Now CODE. is a slightly different story as they are more than just pirates ganking for profit. It is true that they always win, but that is because the risk they present forces you to adapt your gameplay to protect yourself and that is one of their goals. A pretty noble goal if I might say so myself as it makes a better and more engaging game for everyone. But if you want to really defeat CODE., you will need to employ some tactics beyond normal highsec PvP stratagems. Held is a master of the meta, so he might be the leader you need to defeat them at their own game. I wish him well as such conflict can only bring entertainment for everyone. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Demetri Dentrov Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 3	Posted - 2015.02.17 15:54:21 - [48] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Now CODE. is a slightly different story as they are more than just pirates ganking for profit. It is true that they always win, but that is because the risk they present forces you to adapt your gameplay to protect yourself and that is one of their goals. A pretty noble goal if I might say so myself as it makes a better and more engaging game for everyone. No it isn't. By that I mean that isn't their goal, not that the goal wouldn't be noble if it WAS their goal. Why would you think that was their goal? Because that's what they TOLD you their goal was? People get rich by telling other people what they want to hear all the time. CODE is just feeding on CCP's deceptive advertising. It's really no more complicated than that. Look at it this way: And I'll use a particularly egregious example: WHY would anyone fly around high sec in a Hulk with no rigs? (Note that I'm not asking the more subtle but equally salient question... why would anyone fly around high sec around in a Hulk.) The answer is because they don't understand the design of the game they're playing. This despite the fact that it takes over a month to train to fly a Hulk. They are playing a game that is designed to trip them up with false dichotomies while at the same time advertised as a "sandbox" where all choices are equally legitimate As long as CCP deceptively advertises their game, you will have a never ending supply of people that do not understand the choices the game presents. And for that reason, you can never "defeat" CODE. It's like trying to defeat the "Queen" piece in chess.
Hiasa Kite Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 217	Posted - 2015.02.17 16:02:36 - [49] - Quote So because people can make poor decisions and fly ships in suboptimal conditions, CCP are being dishonest in the advertising? I'm really struggling to follow the trail of logic that leads from poor decision making and/or poor awareness being anyone's fault but the player. People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Cagali Cagali, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 622	Posted - 2015.02.17 16:14:49 - [50] - Quote Demetri Dentrov wrote: No it isn't. By that I mean that isn't their goal, not that the goal wouldn't be noble if it WAS their goal. Why would you think that was their goal? Because that's what they TOLD you their goal was? People get rich by telling other people what they want to hear all the time. CODE is just feeding on CCP's deceptive advertising. It's really no more complicated than that. It pretty clearly states that making highsec a more interesting and engaging place is their goal in Code itself. I guess you can choose not believe them, but I am not sure why they would lie about their motivations in a video game. But even if it is some sort of long-game scam by James 315, that would be less noble, but perfectly in the spirit, and within the rules, of this game. But more to the point I have never seen any "deceptive advertising" from CCP saying that there is no PvP in highsec or that it is a CODE-free game or whatever it is you are implying. In fact, they clearly state all throughout the New Player FAQ that there is suppose to be risk and PvP conflicts all throughout New Eden (see sections 5 and 7, especially 7.2). Demetri Dentrov wrote: Look at it this way: And I'll use a particularly egregious example: WHY would anyone fly around high sec in a Hulk with no rigs? (Note that I'm not asking the more subtle but equally salient question... why would anyone fly around high sec around in a Hulk.) The answer is because they don't understand the design of the game they're playing. This despite the fact that it takes over a month to train to fly a Hulk. They are playing a game that is designed to trip them up with false dichotomies while at the same time advertised as a "sandbox" where all choices are equally legitimate As long as CCP deceptively advertises their game, you will have a never ending supply of people that do not understand the choices the game presents. And for that reason, you can never "defeat" CODE. It's like trying to defeat the "Queen" piece in chess. I don't quite get your example. Yes, Eve can be complicated, and yes there many new, or older-but-still-terrible players who don't understand game mechanics but what does that have to do with CODE.? Has CCP ever marketed Eve as a simple game where you can fly your unfit mining vessels around without risk? Eve is a competitive sandbox game not a single-player spaceship flight simulator. I am not sure why you think CCP has ever claimed otherwise. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
admiral root Red Galaxy 2365	Posted - 2015.02.17 16:49:09 - [51] - Quote Well, this thread has been a fun read but I need to address a very serious point, guys. The apocalypse is once again upon the New Order and I'm all out of popcorn. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Kavoro Pel Erik Sarn Corporation 11	Posted - 2015.02.17 17:26:51 - [52] - Quote admiral root wrote: Well, this thread has been a fun read but I need to address a very serious point, guys. The apocalypse is once again upon the New Order and I'm all out of popcorn. That is indeed a very serious issue which should be addressed immediately! There's a preview function on the forum, use it before you post to save yourself some embarrassment.
Drez Arthie Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 18	Posted - 2015.02.17 19:39:28 - [53] - Quote I strike at thee CODE with corny acronyms! Catalyst Overheats, Dies .. Excitement! Carebears Of Deklein in Empire Can't Obtain Daytime Employment
Hiasa Kite Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 219	Posted - 2015.02.17 19:41:27 - [54] - Quote Drez Arthie wrote: I strike at thee CODE with corny acronyms! Catalyst Overheats, Dies .. Excitement! Carebears Of Deklein in Empire Can't Obtain Daytime Employment Call Of Duty Expats? People to vote for CSM X(in order): Sabriz Adoudel, Cagali Cagali, Steve Ronuken, Manfred Sideous, Mike Azariah, Gorski Car
Renegade Heart Novus Ordo Universum 398	Posted - 2015.02.17 19:56:15 - [55] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: I have decided to defeat the New Order You can stop the odd gank here and there but you will find it extremely hard to stop all ganking. Such an endeavour seems pointless to be honest. It's almost as pointless as trying to stop players from going AFK! Even with all the ganking going on, people will still go AFK. So, the only way you can really "beat" the New Order of High Sec is to create a competitor movement that becomes more dominant, by outganking them in high sec! So, OP, I advise you to create a new high sec ganker alliance, with new-player friendliness and SRP. In time, after numbers rise, and your members are outganking CODE, you could claim to be "beating" them
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 509	Posted - 2015.02.18 04:34:15 - [56] - Quote Not sure why there is any need to "stand up to code." If their hilarious incursion ganking contest wasn't enough (kudos to Sabriz on that gem), you have their brilliant AT "victory." If that isn't your cup of tea, don't forget their hilarious attempts to gank mission runners. And if that isn't enough, their leaders keep quitting the game, their line members keep disappearing, and all that is left is a third rate website and a bunch of hot air on the eve forums. Beating code is in fact impossible - one cannot beat what has already lost.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 2005	Posted - 2015.02.18 04:55:35 - [57] - Quote Needs a less obvious name.
Leto Thule Everywhere and Terrible 2096	Posted - 2015.02.18 05:43:51 - [58] - Quote Obvious scam/bait/scam thread is obvious scam/bait/scam thread. Don't forget to send your full API key! Lol. Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
Tear Jar Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 313	Posted - 2015.02.18 05:57:29 - [59] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: I have decided to defeat the New Order by starting a Rebel movement that doesn't suck like all those that have come before. I would like to ask all of the kind players here in general discussion to brainstorm ideas to defeat this criminal organization. The best will be considered for implementation. It would help for those that have been wronged by CODE to share their stories here along with what they are willing to do to help the cause. I had a miner threaten to buy CCP and ban code. you could try that.
Tear Jar Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 313	Posted - 2015.02.18 06:08:55 - [60] - Quote Demetri Dentrov wrote: You cannot defeat "CODE" because they already use optimized strategies and have no resources for you to target. You can't blow up the "CODE secret base" because it's in high sec. You can't "war dec" them, as it puts the onus of looking for them on you. You'll lose just from the time loss. They have no reason to fight a "fair fight" and will just ignore you. Your problem isn't with CODE, it's with the game design that makes their strategies the optimum ones. Don't fall for CCP's deceptive advertising and don't play a game you cannot win. You could attack the guys funding us(we even keep a list). "Scare" people into not buying shares.
Michael Ruckert Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando 279	Posted - 2015.02.18 07:10:51 - [61] - Quote CODE? They still around? Haven't seen any in months. Guess they don't get around as much as they used to. Kind of miss them. "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
Sylphy TSOE Po1ice TSOE Consortium 71	Posted - 2015.02.18 07:57:45 - [62] - Quote They got bored of ganking the same people over and over because those same people don't cry the carebear tears they've come to harvest. Ruins their sport. In the end, they have to resort to posting threads like this one with their alts to catch some attention. The character does not represent the views/opinions of its Corporation or Alliance.
admiral root Red Galaxy 2387	Posted - 2015.02.18 11:32:15 - [63] - Quote Drez Arthie wrote: I strike at thee CODE with corny acronyms! Catalyst Overheats, Dies .. Excitement! Carebears Of Deklein in Empire Can't Obtain Daytime Employment Comply Or Die, Exploding. Sylphy wrote: In the end, they have to resort to posting threads like this one with their alts to catch some attention. And here you are, yet again, giving us that attention, Agent Sylphylis. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Leto Thule Everywhere and Terrible 2103	Posted - 2015.02.18 11:40:56 - [64] - Quote Drez Arthie wrote: Carebears Of Deklein in Empire This one was actually pretty funny. Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie Brawlers Inc. 1442	Posted - 2015.02.18 11:56:19 - [65] - Quote Once I saw a freighter in an asteroid belt. Code wasn't doing their jobs... Its good to see that you're still around Held. I was worried after not seeing you for so long. New player resources: Uni Wiki - General Info Eve Altruist - PvP Belligerent Undesirables - High Sec Pvp
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 9	Posted - 2015.02.18 15:05:43 - [66] - Quote There are many reasons why Highsec Carebears will join our cause. If you answer yes to just one of the following questions, you may be a good fit for this movement: 1. Do you mine because it's relaxing? 2. Are you tired of 12 year old basement dwellers ganking and otherwise harassing you? 3. Are you sick and tired of scammers and others not working for their isk honestly trying to take advantage of you and other honourable players in highsec? 4. Do you have friends in high places, perhaps powerful nullsec alliances? 5. Do you understand that without miners, mission runners, haulers, and industry folk, there would be no ships for these bullies to buy? 6. Do you understand that CODE. and other New Order people would make more isk if they just embraced our way of doing things instead of ganking honourable space folk like us? 7. Shouldn't these kids just meet us in lowsec for an honest pvp fight if they are so good? 8. Do you realize the futility in the fact that when they bump or gank someone, they can't bother other people? They can't be everywhere at once! 9. Did you know that you can simply leave the system you're in and go somewhere else where they won't bother you? 10. Did you know that these (insert wwii reference) don't even follow their own code? 11. Do you believe in Honour and refuse to pay these extortionists out of principle? 12.. Whether you have no money because you just bought your ship and are new or are busy playing on your alt anyway, wouldn't you enjoy seeing the New Order crumble into the dustbin of history? Join me and together we shall battle the New Order in new and interesting ways. Together we will ultimately defeat them, not just on the battlefield or at highsec choke points, but we will win hearts and minds and they will flock to join us themselves as they see everything coming down around them. Together, we can ensure the isk faucet flows freely in highsec and eliminate the scourge of highsec. Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order! Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
Kiandoshia Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance 2132	Posted - 2015.02.18 15:28:34 - [67] - Quote There are still people who pay for the permits?
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 9	Posted - 2015.02.18 16:59:43 - [68] - Quote I have a very special announcement to make. Today, February 18th, 2015 at 11:52 eastern time, the corporation that leads the Rebel movement against the tyranny of James 315 has elected me, Held der Finsternis to have the title of Supreme Commander of Highsec. In this role, I will act as leader of all Highsec Rebels who oppose the rule of James 315 and his "New Order." The vote was unanimous. Like George Washington, I have no aspirations to be a king, even though others would wish this of me. I will fight for Democracy in all of Highsec. Once the New Order has been defeated, I will step down as Supreme Commander of Highsec if the electorate votes as such. But for the time being, I declare that all of highsec is now in a state of martial law, led by me. Join me brothers of highsec. Join me and together we shall defeat the New Order. Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order! Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
Paranoid Loyd 3904	Posted - 2015.02.18 17:07:51 - [69] - Quote OK, thanks for the info, let us know when you actually do something besides talk. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!!!
admiral root Red Galaxy 2393	Posted - 2015.02.18 17:09:38 - [70] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: There are many reasons why Highsec Carebears will join our cause. If you answer yes to just one of the following questions, you may be a good fit for this movement My god, it's full of bingo squares. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Darth Terona Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 45	Posted - 2015.02.18 17:11:07 - [71] - Quote 1. Public discussion of proposed military tactics is a lol 2. Your starting a rebellion that will be better than all the rest but you ask us for help? As if you have no idea how to do it? Your doomed to repeat the mistakes of those before you
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 10	Posted - 2015.02.18 17:15:47 - [72] - Quote Darth Terona wrote: You're starting a rebellion that will be better than all the rest, but you ask us for help? Do you have no idea how to do it? You're doomed to repeat the mistakes of those before you! Muhahaha! There can be no rebellion that achieves lasting results if highsec carebears do not band together in the Rebel cause. This should be obvious. Also, I fixed your grammar errors and reworded for better clarity and form. I look forward to the huddled masses that hear the message of truth and join me, one by one, uphill on this glorious adventure so that one day all of Highsec will know freedom and democracy. One day, we shall be free of the New Order! Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order! Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 19896	Posted - 2015.02.18 17:28:24 - [73] - Quote Im frankly a little irked that you are attempting to poach people away from my Glorious Highsec Revolutionary Crusade. Your self centered rebellion will just need to wait until my Glorious Highsec Revolutionary Crusade has finished bringing all of nullsec to its knees with our Autocannon Shield Coercer and Pulse Laser Armor Brawling Blackbird fleets of justice. Once I have used up the will of highsec to save null, only then may you recruit the leftovers, until then, I refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of your movement. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?* Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 10	Posted - 2015.02.18 17:33:58 - [74] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Im frankly a little irked that you are attempting to poach people away from my Glorious Highsec Revolutionary Crusade. Your self centered rebellion will just need to wait until my Glorious Highsec Revolutionary Crusade has finished bringing all of nullsec to its knees with our Autocannon Shield Coercer and Pulse Laser Armor Brawling Blackbird fleets of justice. Once I have used up the will of highsec to save null, only then may you recruit the leftovers, until then, I refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of your movement. I am confident that I can sway you to my side in just one conversation in game or elsewhere. I have read many of your great works on the forum, and once my new shiny alliance is formed to really hurt the New Order even more, I believe you will want to join and make an excellent warrior in my forum warriors division. Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order! Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
Gaylord Fappington GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 62	Posted - 2015.02.18 17:45:57 - [75] - Quote 1. You should probably play a different game if a relaxing activity needs to involve 0 risk. They do exist. Otherwise, relax away but you'll lose some ships doing it. 2. Bingo! That's my favorite square! 3. Scammers do work for their money. Scams are work. Enforcing the Code does not turn a profit for most agents. Agents without any isk can have lost ships reimbursed by James. Agents with their own sources of wealth can opt to spend that wealth on the entertainment that hunting mining barges brings, but the widespread Code enforcement that this thread is all about doesn't pay well. 4. Yeah. A miner once told my boss he had friends in larger alliances than mine. It failed to offer the miner much in the way of negotiating power. If a player had powerful nullsec friends they would likely spend a good bit of time out there playing with them. It can be a lot of fun. 5. There will always be ships to buy. If everyone stopped mining tomorrow and forever, the people who can and do make the rules of the game would alter them so that people always have ships to buy. The possibilities are endless. 6. This is not about isk. Its about fun. Your fun and ours. The moment isk becomes more important than fun its serisouly time to think about moving on. 7. Eve isn't a twitch combat game like an fps. Small-scale Eve battles are usually won before they are fought. Its a game of preparation and the ability to control the terms of the battle. This sort of thing really doesn't need to be noble to be entertaining, which is what people should really be after. 8. I don't need to be everywhere at once. I just need to be at the location of the barge I am hunting right now. One day it may be your barge. That's obviously still a problem for you when multiplied times each agent, or else you wouldn't be here making this thread. 9. You'd be shocked how few bother to do so. I base out of two systems, and still see a lot of repeat offenders. 10. Thats another bingo square! I'll assume you were not comparing us to the Vichy French. 11. Its a video game where you can believe in whatever you want. If I were to take the words of some of the miners I have spoken with in Eve as an indicator of what they believe in, I can sadly say that homophobia, hate and racism are a lot more popular than honor. 12.. I'd like to see an Eve where the risk is present and by design to the point where all reward has appropriate risk. Then, Eve wouldn't need a New Order. The way it stands now, CCP says 'well, we designed a game where you can mine, but others may be able to stop you if you don't take the steps needed to protect yourself' That risk is not guaranteed by design. It needs a movement like the New Order to ensure that it exists and is widespread. This final point is a very important one, because I think we both want the same thing. An Eve where the New Order doesn't (have to) exist. The problem is that game mechanics over the past couple of years have been straying in the direction of making it harder and harder for players to provide the element of risk the game needs. People are increasingly having consequences for their own choices being designed out of the game. The removal of Can Flipping is the one that really steamed me and pushed me into this style of play. Maybe one day Eve won't need an organized group to balance risk and rewards and force player choices to actually mean something, but for now, it certainly does.
MotherSammy Future Methods 66	Posted - 2015.02.18 17:54:32 - [76] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: There are many reasons why Highsec Carebears will join our cause. If you answer yes to just one of the following questions, you may be a good fit for this movement: 1. Do you mine because it's relaxing? 2. Are you tired of 12 year old basement dwellers ganking and otherwise harassing you? 3. Are you sick and tired of scammers and others not working for their isk honestly trying to take advantage of you and other honourable players in highsec? 4. Do you have friends in high places, perhaps powerful nullsec alliances? 5. Do you understand that without miners, mission runners, haulers, and industry folk, there would be no ships for these bullies to buy? 6. Do you understand that CODE. and other New Order people would make more isk if they just embraced our way of doing things instead of ganking honourable space folk like us? 7. Shouldn't these kids just meet us in lowsec for an honest pvp fight if they are so good? 8. Do you realize the futility in the fact that when they bump or gank someone, they can't bother other people? They can't be everywhere at once! 9. Did you know that you can simply leave the system you're in and go somewhere else where they won't bother you? 10. Did you know that these (insert wwii reference) don't even follow their own code? 11. Do you believe in Honour and refuse to pay these extortionists out of principle? 12.. Whether you have no money because you just bought your ship and are new or are busy playing on your alt anyway, wouldn't you enjoy seeing the New Order crumble into the dustbin of history? Join me and together we shall battle the New Order in new and interesting ways. Together we will ultimately defeat them, not just on the battlefield or at highsec choke points, but we will win hearts and minds and they will flock to join us themselves as they see everything coming down around them. Together, we can ensure the isk faucet flows freely in highsec and eliminate the scourge of highsec. Dammit, man, you almost had us. You need to learn a little subtlety. This was a massive tell and the cat's out of the bag now. There are "reasons" in your list here that are phrased so obviously that you couldn't possibly be a real rebel. Sigh. Still waiting on a real rebellion.
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 645	Posted - 2015.02.18 18:49:27 - [77] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: I have a very special announcement to make. Today, February 18th, 2015 at 11:52 eastern time, the corporation that leads the Rebel movement against the tyranny of James 315 has elected me, Held der Finsternis to have the title of Supreme Commander of Highsec. In this role, I will act as leader of all Highsec Rebels who oppose the rule of James 315 and his "New Order." The vote was unanimous. Like George Washington, I have no aspirations to be a king, even though others would wish this of me. I will fight for Democracy in all of Highsec. Once the New Order has been defeated, I will step down as Supreme Commander of Highsec if the electorate votes as such. But for the time being, I declare that all of highsec is now in a state of martial law, led by me. Join me brothers of highsec. Join me and together we shall defeat the New Order. No, for unlike George Washington you never rocked an awesome Wig/Hat combo whilest fighting in the British army in 1752. On a slightly more practical point I think guys like CODE are a necessary part of highsec, to remind the carebears that they are not and never will be 100% safe. However much they may want to be. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin you're welcome
Gaylord Fappington GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 63	Posted - 2015.02.18 19:14:06 - [78] - Quote MotherSammy wrote: Dammit, man, you almost had us. You need to learn a little subtlety. This was a massive tell and the cat's out of the bag now. There are "reasons" in your list here that are phrased so obviously that you couldn't possibly be a real rebel. Sigh. Still waiting on a real rebellion. I don't get what you're after. This seems like a legitimate challenge of the Code to me. His signature alone speaks to his legitimacy. Only real rebels ask for essays. 'Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.' Really, the discussion we should be having here is what agent everyone is going to copy on their essays.
Concord Guy's Cousin State War Academy Caldari State 650	Posted - 2015.02.18 20:22:12 - [79] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: There are many reasons why Highsec Carebears will join our cause. If you answer yes to just one of the following questions, you may be a good fit for this movement: 1. Do you mine because it's relaxing? 2. Are you tired of 12 year old basement dwellers ganking and otherwise harassing you? 3. Are you sick and tired of scammers and others not working for their isk honestly trying to take advantage of you and other honourable players in highsec? 4. Do you have friends in high places, perhaps powerful nullsec alliances? 5. Do you understand that without miners, mission runners, haulers, and industry folk, there would be no ships for these bullies to buy? 6. Do you understand that CODE. and other New Order people would make more isk if they just embraced our way of doing things instead of ganking honourable space folk like us? 7. Shouldn't these kids just meet us in lowsec for an honest pvp fight if they are so good? 8. Do you realize the futility in the fact that when they bump or gank someone, they can't bother other people? They can't be everywhere at once! 9. Did you know that you can simply leave the system you're in and go somewhere else where they won't bother you? 10. Did you know that these (insert wwii reference) don't even follow their own code? 11. Do you believe in Honour and refuse to pay these extortionists out of principle? 12.. Whether you have no money because you just bought your ship and are new or are busy playing on your alt anyway, wouldn't you enjoy seeing the New Order crumble into the dustbin of history? Join me and together we shall battle the New Order in new and interesting ways. Together we will ultimately defeat them, not just on the battlefield or at highsec choke points, but we will win hearts and minds and they will flock to join us themselves as they see everything coming down around them. Together, we can ensure the isk faucet flows freely in highsec and eliminate the scourge of highsec. I lol'd, have a like and a relevant gif ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries" NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 933	Posted - 2015.02.18 22:02:36 - [80] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: I'm sick and tired of hearing about them, from both sides. They are a minority group that likes to gank noobs. They aren't the first, they won't be the last. Who cares? Just ignore them and go about your business. Because content. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Orlacc 798	Posted - 2015.02.18 22:04:51 - [81] - Quote Who? "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Sir Diablos Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 26	Posted - 2015.02.18 22:27:16 - [82] - Quote You are an apostate, led astray by the foul denizens of hisec who are afraid to allow their mechinations be brought to light by the Supreme Protector, James 315 and his honorable knights and warriors. Your rhetoric smacks of ignorance, echoing those who have crumbled before you, and heralds those who will fall long after your clones have been turned into a protein soup that will nourish the clones of the future. Turn away from the maw of darkness before you, the chasm that will swallow you into everlasting darkness with false promises of glory and riches. Return to the Supreme Protector, fall to your knees, renounce your heretical ways and let him shower you with his Grace and Mercy. Otherwise, the cup of Righteous Wrath shall spill forth upon you and all those who seek to take up your banner. I support a strong and unified Hisec, I support James 315 in his Vision to make this a reality, and I support the CODE. www.minerbumping.com
servalaan 20	Posted - 2015.02.18 22:58:52 - [83] - Quote Sir Diablos wrote: You are an apostate, led astray by the foul denizens of hisec who are afraid to allow their mechinations be brought to light by the Supreme Protector, James 315 and his honorable knights and warriors. Your rhetoric smacks of ignorance, echoing those who have crumbled before you, and heralds those who will fall long after your clones have been turned into a protein soup that will nourish the clones of the future. Turn away from the maw of darkness before you, the chasm that will swallow you into everlasting darkness with false promises of glory and riches. Return to the Supreme Protector, fall to your knees, renounce your heretical ways and let him shower you with his Grace and Mercy. Otherwise, the cup of Righteous Wrath shall spill forth upon you and all those who seek to take up your banner. Let him kiss my firm muscular buttocks. If pinocchio told you his nose was about to grow, what would happen?
Karla the Careless Beyond Reproach 2	Posted - 2015.02.18 23:05:02 - [84] - Quote Ohnoes, watch out for the rather large (for a crayon) carnation crayon next to the sippy cup on little jimmie's desk. Skipping the strategically positioned paper that his parents set out for the purpose, he begins to scrawl names on the wall...... Just wait until daddy comes home.....
Alexi Stokov State War Academy Caldari State 11	Posted - 2015.02.18 23:53:37 - [85] - Quote Sabriz Adoudel wrote: Held, I would like to offer you a one time chance to get in the Saviour's good books. For a payment of 30 million ISK and a sincere apology for your rebel activity, you will be able to be forgiven and become a permit holder for one year (unless your permit is revoked because you participate in unauthorized rebellion again). Did Luke Skywalker apologize for leading the rebel cause? NO! He rallied the people and blew up the Death Star and saved the galaxy! Go forth young padwan and totally show the galaxy that you have the force and all that....
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie Brawlers Inc. 1442	Posted - 2015.02.18 23:54:27 - [86] - Quote Gaylord Fappington wrote: Really, the discussion we should be having here is what agent everyone is going to copy on their essays. Damnit! You're making me wish I was still an agent. Oh, well I guess I'll have to start writing... New player resources: Uni Wiki - General Info Eve Altruist - PvP Belligerent Undesirables - High Sec Pvp
Amyclas Amatin SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation 609	Posted - 2015.02.19 00:42:28 - [87] - Quote :munch: For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
Amyclas Amatin SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation 609	Posted - 2015.02.19 00:49:03 - [88] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: There are many reasons why Highsec Carebears will join our cause. If you answer yes to just one of the following questions, you may be a good fit for this movement: 1. Do you mine because it's relaxing? 2. Are you tired of 12 year old basement dwellers ganking and otherwise harassing you? 3. Are you sick and tired of scammers and others not working for their isk honestly trying to take advantage of you and other honourable players in highsec? 4. Do you have friends in high places, perhaps powerful nullsec alliances? 5. Do you understand that without miners, mission runners, haulers, and industry folk, there would be no ships for these bullies to buy? 6. Do you understand that CODE. and other New Order people would make more isk if they just embraced our way of doing things instead of ganking honourable space folk like us? 7. Shouldn't these kids just meet us in lowsec for an honest pvp fight if they are so good? 8. Do you realize the futility in the fact that when they bump or gank someone, they can't bother other people? They can't be everywhere at once! 9. Did you know that you can simply leave the system you're in and go somewhere else where they won't bother you? 10. Did you know that these (insert wwii reference) don't even follow their own code? 11. Do you believe in Honour and refuse to pay these extortionists out of principle? 12.. Whether you have no money because you just bought your ship and are new or are busy playing on your alt anyway, wouldn't you enjoy seeing the New Order crumble into the dustbin of history? Join me and together we shall battle the New Order in new and interesting ways. Together we will ultimately defeat them, not just on the battlefield or at highsec choke points, but we will win hearts and minds and they will flock to join us themselves as they see everything coming down around them. Together, we can ensure the isk faucet flows freely in highsec and eliminate the scourge of highsec. Sabriz is that you? For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/ Remember that whenever you have a bad day in EVE, the correct reponse is "Thank you CCP, may I please have another?"
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 13	Posted - 2015.02.19 01:39:30 - [89] - Quote The Rebel cause has just advanced forward yet again, with its own Rebels against James 315 and the New Order IPO. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5502711 Stayed tuned for yet more updates! Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order! Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
Demerius Xenocratus Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 87	Posted - 2015.02.19 02:17:48 - [90] - Quote I will lend my considerable combat prowess to your cause gladly. I ask only for a small token to demonstrate your good faith and finance further recruiting efforts. A humble gift of 500 million ISK will be sufficient to allow me to begin working on your behalf, but we need to move quickly before CODE's nefarious agents can thwart my plans.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 511	Posted - 2015.02.19 04:46:01 - [91] - Quote are there any agents left? Code seems to be a shell corp at this point.
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 1321	Posted - 2015.02.19 08:48:06 - [92] - Quote You may be the last, Veers. A solitary monolith standing strong in the face of encroaching darkness. Keep up your recruitment drive, there may be hope yet. It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
admiral root Red Galaxy 2405	Posted - 2015.02.19 10:43:49 - [93] - Quote Alexi Stokov wrote: Did Luke Skywalker apologize for leading the rebel cause? NO! He rallied the people and blew up the Death Star and saved the galaxy! Go forth young padwan and totally show the galaxy that you have the force and all that.... Except in our story, the New Order are the plucky rebels and, whilst he could be considered by some to be our Luke Skywalker, James 315 has commited no heinous crimes against style and fashion with the hair from hell. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Lord Parallax Dead Pirates Syndicate 6	Posted - 2015.02.19 11:06:47 - [94] - Quote Here are a few suggestions. 1. NEVER EVER EVER AFK. 2. mine in barges that are fitted for tanking gankers not max yield ( this means no retrievers) 3. Run escort fleets with the haulers, i.e. have a scout run ahead have combat ships behind the scout to attack the gankers setup on the gates, have webber ships run with the hauler so they can insta warp it. and have ships to loot the hauler if it does get ganked. 4 the #1 rule in eve, NEVER FLY WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE.. and if you really want to have fun getting rid of them make fleets that actively hunt them. Get scouts that let you know where they are, where they are moving to and cut them off. Find the systems they are most active in and then setup on the gates, and the stations with instalocking tackle frigs and dessies. If you keep preventing them from getting a gank off they will start getting irritated and find something else to do. This is a lengthy task but this is how you win a war with bottom feeders like this. I started doing this and I have almost cleared them out of Niarja and Madi while I am online. If I had more people to cover the other time zones Niarja and madi would be liberated of their existence.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 15	Posted - 2015.02.19 11:11:28 - [95] - Quote Lord Parallax wrote: Here are a few suggestions. 1. NEVER EVER EVER AFK. 2. mine in barges that are fitted for tanking gankers not max yield ( this means no retrievers) 3. Run escort fleets with the haulers, i.e. have a scout run ahead have combat ships behind the scout to attack the gankers setup on the gates, have webber ships run with the hauler so they can insta warp it. and have ships to loot the hauler if it does get ganked. 4 the #1 rule in eve, NEVER FLY WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE.. and if you really want to have fun getting rid of them make fleets that actively hunt them. Get scouts that let you know where they are, where they are moving to and cut them off. Find the systems they are most active in and then setup on the gates, and the stations with instalocking tackle frigs and dessies. If you keep preventing them from getting a gank off they will start getting irritated and find something else to do. This is a lengthy task but this is how you win a war with bottom feeders like this. I started doing this and I have almost cleared them out of Niarja and Madi while I am online. If I had more people to cover the other time zones Niarja and madi would be liberated of their existence. Yes some or all of these are on the list, thanks! Shares are flying off the shelves at an annualized rate far higher than New Order shares so far! Head over to market discussion and buy some and help defeat these guys for good. Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order! Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
Lord Parallax Dead Pirates Syndicate 6	Posted - 2015.02.19 11:19:22 - [96] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: Lord Parallax wrote: Here are a few suggestions. 1. NEVER EVER EVER AFK. 2. mine in barges that are fitted for tanking gankers not max yield ( this means no retrievers) 3. Run escort fleets with the haulers, i.e. have a scout run ahead have combat ships behind the scout to attack the gankers setup on the gates, have webber ships run with the hauler so they can insta warp it. and have ships to loot the hauler if it does get ganked. 4 the #1 rule in eve, NEVER FLY WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE.. and if you really want to have fun getting rid of them make fleets that actively hunt them. Get scouts that let you know where they are, where they are moving to and cut them off. Find the systems they are most active in and then setup on the gates, and the stations with instalocking tackle frigs and dessies. If you keep preventing them from getting a gank off they will start getting irritated and find something else to do. This is a lengthy task but this is how you win a war with bottom feeders like this. I started doing this and I have almost cleared them out of Niarja and Madi while I am online. If I had more people to cover the other time zones Niarja and madi would be liberated of their existence. Yes some or all of these are on the list, thanks! Shares are flying off the shelves at an annualized rate far higher than New Order shares so far! Head over to market discussion and buy some and help defeat these guys for good. Why would I possibly give money to any of you , when I can do what you are trying to do far more effectively by myself. I don't need to scam myself out of my own fundings. I can simply keep doing what I do 1 system at a time and make the area I like to fly in safer for me and the locals that live there. Once my reputation starts to build as a Anti-Code activist more will join the ranks with me and then we can start guarding the region and force Code somewhere else.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 15	Posted - 2015.02.19 11:23:19 - [97] - Quote Of course I wish you well. Sadly, hundreds if not thousands of players have tried and failed at exactly what you are saying, practically saying the same things word for word. In fact, there are at least hundreds of players trying to do exactly what you hope to do without much success whatsoever. There's a difference in my organization and strategy that will become apparent over time. I am confident many like yourself will see this and choose to join in on the winning team. Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order! Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
Lord Parallax Dead Pirates Syndicate 6	Posted - 2015.02.19 11:27:59 - [98] - Quote I see 2 sides of your agenda. 1 attempt to revitalize the reputation of bottom feeders and their cause 2 secretly gain funding for them b/c they are losing their current source. Either way, if you were serious about ending code, you would do what I and many others are already doing. Beat them at their own game.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 15	Posted - 2015.02.19 11:39:04 - [99] - Quote Lord Parallax wrote: I see 2 sides of your agenda. 1 attempt to revitalize the reputation of bottom feeders and their cause 2 secretly gain funding for them b/c they are losing their current source. Either way, if you were serious about ending code, you would do what I and many others are already doing. Beat them at their own game. You are both right and wrong at the same time. Your numbered points are ridiculous, but I can see where the paranoia comes from- they are quite good at what they do. It's the latter part where we run into the provable problems. What you state you wish to do, and what others are doing, is not affecting them whatsoever in any way. You are literally just wasting your time and providing them content. You do not defeat them by camping gates and protecting the odd freighter from a gank. Gank ships are cheap, so even if you foil a handful of waves, you are literally wasting the collective time of all the white knights logged in. The criminal countdown is 15 minutes. Yet white knights sit around and chat in local, while the ganking fleets go off and hit another target. You are doing LITERALLY no damage to them. Cats are cheap. Targets are juicy. You can't win by shooting cats or repping random freighters who don't thank you in any way whatsoever. They are afk. You haven't chased a single agent from any system, anywhere. You have no reputation, and you won't gain any that is useful if you continue with your plan. Especially if you adopt the typical carebear mentality of attacking your allies. Highsec is littered with the failed attempts of thousands of players and corps just like yourself. Without change, this will continue indefinitely. What I offer you is change. You fail to see it currently. But while you fly your ship around solo, I've already raised 1.5b isk towards the cause. In one day, while doing other things. As my movement builds and I bring rather unique expertise to the table, you'll see the measure differences between our approaches over time. But unlike you, I am not attacking you. I am merely describing how I hope you change for your own benefit and for the benefit of everyone in highsec. I welcome the day when you join me to finally bring about a New Era for Highsec. YES WE CAN! Now accepting corp apps to defeat the New Order! Simply mail me an essay about yourself and the New Order. Please copy in James 315 or your favourite agent. Don't forget to separately mail me a full account api (no expiration) for security.
Froggy Storm Paragon Trust The Bastion 350	Posted - 2015.02.19 15:36:31 - [100] - Quote Perhaps found a movement to stop the production of all catalyst (catalysti? Catalysts? Cactus?) There would be the only way to beat code that isn't a code wins. But then again that would be even more impossible to get producers on board above their bottom line. Miners are hard enough to get to do anything that isn't directly (read isk yielding) self serving.
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY. 149	Posted - 2015.02.19 15:46:20 - [101] - Quote I have a feeling that either one of two things will happen: 1. We find out this is just a huge scam, and we see a post on minerbumping about how he scammed fellow carebears like Dream Five out of billions of isk, or 2. We find out this is a complete failure, at which point we see a post on minerbumping where Code inflicted billions of damage on this puny alliance. Either way, i might join up just for fun and content.
Nerath Naaris Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy 956	Posted - 2015.02.19 16:03:40 - [102] - Quote Wait, what? According to the Miner rumor mill, The CODE. is currently collapsing, has already collapsed or is about to collapse. Surely, all of them can-¦t be wrong!? Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 645	Posted - 2015.02.19 18:51:27 - [103] - Quote Nerath Naaris wrote: Wait, what? According to the Miner rumor mill, The CODE. is currently collapsing, has already collapsed or is about to collapse. Surely, all of them can-¦t be wrong!? Only person I've seen saying that is our good friend Veers, usually whilest emitting strange baboon type noises and loudly smacking his bum. Must be a highsec thing. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin you're welcome
admiral root Red Galaxy 2408	Posted - 2015.02.19 23:05:24 - [104] - Quote Froggy Storm wrote: Perhaps found a movement to stop the production of all catalyst (catalysti? Catalysts? Cactus?) There would be the only way to beat code that isn't a code wins. But then again that would be even more impossible to get producers on board above their bottom line. Miners are hard enough to get to do anything that isn't directly (read isk yielding) self serving. A number of our top gankers are also our top equipment producers. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 937	Posted - 2015.02.19 23:19:40 - [105] - Quote Froggy Storm wrote: Perhaps found a movement to stop the production of all catalyst (catalysti? Catalysts? Cactus?) There would be the only way to beat code that isn't a code wins. But then again that would be even more impossible to get producers on board above their bottom line. Miners are hard enough to get to do anything that isn't directly (read isk yielding) self serving. If everyone else stopped building catalysts, it'd just be more isk for me. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
malcovas Henderson THoF 342	Posted - 2015.02.19 23:45:49 - [106] - Quote OP. buy every Catalyst in the game. keep on buying them and put them up on market at 100mill a pop. Do the same for the fittings, they are known to use. that will show them for sure.
Drez Arthie Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2015.02.20 00:42:11 - [107] - Quote Darek Castigatus wrote: [quote=Nerath Naaris] Only person I've seen saying that is our good friend Veers, usually whilest emitting strange baboon type noises and loudly smacking his bum. Must be a highsec thing. Do you have pics? Let me go in the bathroom and ... um .. think about that
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 937	Posted - 2015.02.20 00:49:04 - [108] - Quote Drez Arthie wrote: Darek Castigatus wrote: [quote=Nerath Naaris] Only person I've seen saying that is our good friend Veers, usually whilest emitting strange baboon type noises and loudly smacking his bum. Must be a highsec thing. Do you have pics? Let me go in the bathroom and ... um .. think about that ew Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 16	Posted - 2015.02.20 07:19:37 - [109] - Quote UPDATE 1st blog post up... http://www.heroesofhighsec.com/ Supreme Commander of Highsec http://www.heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Darek Castigatus Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 647	Posted - 2015.02.20 11:47:40 - [110] - Quote Drez Arthie wrote: Darek Castigatus wrote: [quote=Nerath Naaris] Only person I've seen saying that is our good friend Veers, usually whilest emitting strange baboon type noises and loudly smacking his bum. Must be a highsec thing. Do you have pics? Let me go in the bathroom and ... um .. think about that How about no, you odd individual you. Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin you're welcome
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 844	Posted - 2015.02.20 12:11:53 - [111] - Quote Froggy Storm wrote: Perhaps found a movement to stop the production of all catalyst (catalysti? Catalysts? Cactus?) There would be the only way to beat code that isn't a code wins. But then again that would be even more impossible to get producers on board above their bottom line. Miners are hard enough to get to do anything that isn't directly (read isk yielding) self serving. Many of us produce their Catalysts on their own out of many reasons: Industry is trivial and almost zero effort, you can do it while on criminal timer. You don't need to be a carebear to start a production job. It secures the supply of ships and you don't depend on the markets. Our targets drop most of the ore we need to build them. It makes the ganking more cost effective. This is of course also true for the modules. I used to produce t1 stuff only, but with the last round of highsec industry buffs where slots where removed, t2 production in my central production hub became viable. The idea is not to make money, but to use the money invested in ganking activity in a more efficient way, so you can do more damage per ISK. the Code ALWAYS wins
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY. 152	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:13:59 - [112] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: UPDATE 1st blog post up... http://www.heroesofhighsec.com/ Why so much red. Are you angry? You need to calm down. I think your subconscious is telling you something.
Valkin Mordirc 655	Posted - 2015.02.20 13:33:13 - [113] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: UPDATE 1st blog post up... http://www.heroesofhighsec.com/ In the great words of Tengu Grib. Tengu Grib wrote: ew `#DeleteTheWeak`
Renegade Heart Novus Ordo Universum 399	Posted - 2015.02.20 14:16:12 - [114] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: UPDATE 1st blog post up... http://www.heroesofhighsec.com/ Lots of content but not enough explosions! I can see the funding is taking off now, but some people are not going to be persuaded to part with isk unless they hear about explosions!
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY. 152	Posted - 2015.02.20 14:27:58 - [115] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: UPDATE 1st blog post up... http://www.heroesofhighsec.com/ Okay, now that ive had the chance to read this, i am now convinced this is a scam. On a completely unrelated note, have you tried contacting Dream Five? I hear she has tens of trillions of isk, as her freighter loss only accounted for .1% of her assets.
Da'iel Zehn Evil Frosty's Premium Liqours and Fine Wines 189	Posted - 2015.02.20 14:29:08 - [116] - Quote I have lots of ideas... But, don't get me wrong. I love James and CODE. They provide a great service to the community. One of my recent ideas was to quietly mine in a cheap, untanked retriever. When I was spied out, I quickly warped and got my fully tanked skiff. When the catalyst arrived it targeted me and opened fire without even realizing I had changed ships. I pointed, mocked, and laughed to myself... then looted their wreck and gave Concord a tip. It was beautiful.
Cannibal Kane Blood Raiders Elite 4762	Posted - 2015.02.20 14:32:43 - [117] - Quote Less talk more action. It been a while since a corp and alliance was build to do what you want to do. Last ones all went up in flames and I relish at the idea of facing another White Knight/Anti-Code corp. There is a reason why people in AG are mostly in NPC or 1 man corps... like you are. "Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
I am providence Viziam Amarr Empire 37	Posted - 2015.02.20 14:41:54 - [118] - Quote Content is... just another sob-story - "players in eve are bad people" and so on. I would give it a solid 6/10. In the long run, we need original content, more background, more tears. *** please, i want to know more about the freightergank, i want the chatlogs, i want a video with recorded webcams and Teamspeak, i want to ***** know how the tears finally tasted. Thats what makes minerbumping so interesting, it is far more intersting than all the white knight - stuff some people expect from this whole project. Anyway, what I expect from this whole mess in the next few weeks: a) "Held der dunkelheit" is more like a "Held vom Erdbeerfeld" (my german fellows will understand ) and in a month nobody will care about the whole story anymore, because nothing realy happened. Oh, wait - except that alle the millions and billions he received are lost. b) He is indeed another humble agent of CODE., who is out to troll and punish anyone without a mining licence. He may be one of my alts. Even one of James 135-¦s alts. My Blog (german): http://theevevirus.wordpress.com/ Trader and a terrible wannabee-PvP-hero.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 18	Posted - 2015.02.20 14:55:19 - [119] - Quote Cannibal Kane wrote: Less talk more action. It been a while since a corp and alliance was build to do what you want to do. Last ones all went up in flames and I relish at the idea of facing another White Knight/Anti-Code corp. There is a reason why people in AG are mostly in NPC or 1 man corps... like you are. Yes, there will be lots of action. I have just published the 3rd blog post. Rome was not built in a day and so this rebellion will take some time, even a year or longer if need be. But I will not rush to lose ships and other such foolishness like all the prior rebel corps and movements have done. I will follow a bold strategy that will take time. But, unlike the failed rebels before me, I will not be scammed, awoxxed, or otherwise defeated in battle to such an extent that I have to give up like they did. I am taking the slow, methodical approach. I'm sure lots of people will laugh, just as many did when James was alone himself. But so far we are raising funds faster than James and I am confident we shall see victory. I look forward to seeing you on the battlefield, whichever side you choose. And my fleets will be undocked and engaging. As I've told investors in private, I see wardec as great practice for budding rebels, not anything to be feared. But we will do so in ships that we can easily replace. Good luck to everyone in the coming war. May the best side win. But most importantly, may everyone have fun. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Ro Fenrios Armilies corporation Skeleton Crew. 51	Posted - 2015.02.20 15:22:08 - [120] - Quote I'm having my doubts about this till I see something concrete. Say, interfering with one of code wardecs and turning it far positive to defending side, preventing ganks, or actually organizing carebears into some measure of protecting themselves. Even posting anti gank fits would be start. You can make retriever for example surprisingly tanky if you hull tank it. Enough for some people to even use them as baits in low sec.
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY. 153	Posted - 2015.02.20 15:40:13 - [121] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: Cannibal Kane wrote: Less talk more action. It been a while since a corp and alliance was build to do what you want to do. Last ones all went up in flames and I relish at the idea of facing another White Knight/Anti-Code corp. There is a reason why people in AG are mostly in NPC or 1 man corps... like you are. Yes, there will be lots of action. I have just published the 3rd blog post. Rome was not built in a day and so this rebellion will take some time, even a year or longer if need be. But I will not rush to lose ships and other such foolishness like all the prior rebel corps and movements have done. I will follow a bold strategy that will take time. But, unlike the failed rebels before me, I will not be scammed, awoxxed, or otherwise defeated in battle to such an extent that I have to give up like they did. I am taking the slow, methodical approach. I'm sure lots of people will laugh, just as many did when James was alone himself. But so far we are raising funds faster than James and I am confident we shall see victory. I look forward to seeing you on the battlefield, whichever side you choose. And my fleets will be undocked and engaging. As I've told investors in private, I see wardec as great practice for budding rebels, not anything to be feared. But we will do so in ships that we can easily replace. Good luck to everyone in the coming war. May the best side win. But most importantly, may everyone have fun. Is this like a parody of the New Order? Held der Finsternis even says "Carebear calm down". In any case, sounds damn funny, has my full support behind it.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 19	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:11:36 - [122] - Quote There has been much discussion in game about official titles for "agents" and "knights." In the New Order, agents are Code enforcers with any corp affiliation whil knights are members of the CODE. alliance. What would you call the Rebel equivalents? Here are some of the ideas being considered: AGENT equivalent: Ranger Saviour Advocate Sheriff Deputy Gallant Protector Partisan Vanquisher Defender Medalist Hero KNIGHT equivalent: Champion Templar Goblin Orc Now that I have gone through this exercise thinking up some more ones, I think it's clear to me now. I decree that the rebel "agent" shall henceforth be known as.. Hero and the rebel "Knight" shall henceforth be known as... Templar I do not rule out having multiple levels, using some of the words above, to denote special achievements and such. Please share any ideas you may have! Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Jennifer en Marland Shiny Violent Killing Toys 26	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:23:01 - [123] - Quote Not sure if you're a troll, scammer or both...I'm guessing both Army of dolls stole all your perfect imperfections.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 20	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:29:30 - [124] - Quote Jennifer en Marland wrote: Not sure if you're a troll, scammer or both...I'm guessing both Neither. I certainly hope to see you as a shareholder and/or hero very soon so that together we can defeat James 315 and his cronies. Skepticism is healthy, as long as you are open-minded to see how this plays out as my forces march towards victory. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Gaylord Fappington GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 64	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:42:18 - [125] - Quote Jennifer en Marland wrote: Not sure if you're a troll, scammer or both...I'm guessing both Doesn't the AG community call its agents Pandaren? He could always borrow that.
Lord Jasta The Scope Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2015.02.20 17:49:38 - [126] - Quote So what if a former agent wanted to right the wrongs he had committed before?
Jennifer en Marland Shiny Violent Killing Toys 30	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:06:49 - [127] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: Jennifer en Marland wrote: Not sure if you're a troll, scammer or both...I'm guessing both Neither. I certainly hope to see you as a shareholder and/or hero very soon so that together we can defeat James 315 and his cronies. Skepticism is healthy, as long as you are open-minded to see how this plays out as my forces march towards victory. The fact that you're asking for isk without ever having done anything to fight Code puts you perilously close to the 'scammer' category. I know you'll never see one cent from me unless you do something pretty amazing that i couldn't do myself. Lord Jasta wrote: So what if a former agent wanted to right the wrongs he had committed before? Then he should hurry up and right them, instead of making forum posts about how he's supposedly going to lead other people into doing it for him Army of dolls stole all your perfect imperfections.
Dark Hominy Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:25:16 - [128] - Quote Held der Finsternis, I really like the cut of your..... Heeeey, that's not a mullet. I hope you or someone you know are really good at herding cats. Highsec dwellers tend to not work together in groups larger than 1. I'd love to see it happen, though. Best of luck.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 20	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:38:48 - [129] - Quote Jennifer en Marland wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: Jennifer en Marland wrote: Not sure if you're a troll, scammer or both...I'm guessing both Neither. I certainly hope to see you as a shareholder and/or hero very soon so that together we can defeat James 315 and his cronies. Skepticism is healthy, as long as you are open-minded to see how this plays out as my forces march towards victory. The fact that you're asking for isk without ever having done anything to fight Code puts you perilously close to the 'scammer' category. I know you'll never see one cent from me unless you do something pretty amazing that i couldn't do myself. Lord Jasta wrote: So what if a former agent wanted to right the wrongs he had committed before? Then he should hurry up and right them, instead of making forum posts about how he's supposedly going to lead other people into doing it for him As I've pointed out to other (so far) failed rebels, the quest to defeat James 315 and the New Order is one that takes careful planning and many steps. It is about winning hearts and minds. The founder of the anti-ganking channel expressed many similar things. You could call it AG groupthink I suppose. Perhaps on my blog I'll address this in more detail soon. But in a nutshell, he asked, what would it take to declare victory? It is quite clear to me. If any of these victory goals are things you'd like to see, then we should talk: 1. Agents and Knights join the Heroes of Highsec and renounce their wicked ways. (remember folks, hearts and minds.) 2. The CODE. alliance is disbanded, with no alternative alliance setup to replace it. 3. James 315 stops writing. You can't achieve these goals merely by camping gates with some electronic warfare and reps. You can't do it alone or in small packs. No, that is the FAILED strategy of all the rebels who have come before me. They rely on primative tactics and a bit of high-fives, while they waste countless man hours away doing nothing of value whatsoever. Occassionally, they'll destroy a cheap catalyst or two. Now, don't get me wrong. Anti-ganking is a part of the strategy, but it's just one component. You have to win the forum too, without being constantly ridiculed. You also can't routinely have your rebel corps and alliances sacked by New Order forces, continously creating new corps and feeding content to Minerbumping.com You also can't be so paranoid of letting your duly elected Supreme Commander of Highsec into your chat channels. It is a well known fact that New Order spies are always in there. What are you hiding, your schedules? If you think you have anything to hide, you need to beef up your security instead of making it so laughable. When I was a Knight, our around-the-clock surveillance of anti-ganking and other Rebel channels revealed that the entire rebel community had no plan, no hope, and were really cute. You are so afraid of being scammed or tricked or otherwise misled by agents of the New Order, that you shoot yourselves in the feet hoping it will protect you. So what have I done so far? Keep in mind it has been about 2 days. I have raised nearly 2 billion isk from a number of interested shareholders who wish to see real change come to Highsec. I have setup a blog with an actual domain name. I've posted articles, and I've setup a lot of the static pages. I've done interviews with many more prospective supporters both in chats and various teamspeaks. I've even had isk thrown at the rebel movement by New Order supporters themselves, much like Goons have done for Gevlon, simply because they find it funny. That's fine with me- I'll take isk from anyone and then use it to defeat James 315 and so on as stated. So now... what have YOU done? All I hear are stories of failures. But that doesn't matter. That's the point. We, as rebels, need to band together to defeat our common enemy instead of constantly attacking one another. That is the Carebear Problem. Eventually I will overcome that, one rebel at a time. It is just getting a fit frustrating to even see you spout out what is essentially fearful talking points written down by carebears of past who se advice is to do everything possible that cowers in the face of advertsity instead of tackling the problem head on and intelligently. Join me. Let's defeat the New Order together. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 38485	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:41:35 - [130] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: Hiasa Kite wrote: IB4 the move. Also, best of luck to the OP. The new Order has never lost a war. You are indeed up against the most elite of PvPers. I know, check my employment history friend. Tbh it kinda makes your effort look more like either a CODE publicity tactic and/or a way to bring them even more targets via the people you recruit and "lead into battle". This kind of thing is common in FW. Though if it's legit then I'm pretty sure CODE and everyone watching will welcome the extra content with open arms. In anycase, starting off by saying you want to win and be different than the rest, then asking for suggestions on exactly how to do that, doesn't bode real well. Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 20	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:46:37 - [131] - Quote Erica Dusette wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: Hiasa Kite wrote: IB4 the move. Also, best of luck to the OP. The new Order has never lost a war. You are indeed up against the most elite of PvPers. I know, check my employment history friend. Tbh it kinda makes your effort look more like either a CODE publicity tactic and/or a way to bring them even more targets via the people you recruit and "lead into battle". This kind of thing is common in FW. Though if it's legit then I'm pretty sure CODE and everyone watching will welcome the extra content with open arms. In anycase, starting off by saying you want to win and be different than the rest, then asking for suggestions on exactly how to do that, doesn't bode real well. Well, you are wrong. But let me explain why, as I have done so already to that exact question earlier in this thread. The failed rebels of past have come to the table with crazy, naive plans and refused to listen to reason. They all want to be kings but no one wants to be a soldier. They end up getting their asses handed to them. Instead of learning and adapting, they whine and fill out paperwork for our overworked GM's. I already have extensive plans for how I will achieve ultimate victory. Obviously, I have not posted them in full here for opsec. But I would be absolutely foolish NOT to ask for suggestions from the community, adapting good ideas as make sense. This is not an attack on you, just your thinking on this matter. Seriously give it some thought. I'm confident you'll come around and share your own suggestions. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Renegade Heart Novus Ordo Universum 399	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:51:52 - [132] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: So what have I done so far? Keep in mind it has been about 2 days..... And you still have no lossmails of gankers. Held der Finsternis wrote: So now... what have YOU done? Jennifer actually goes out there and shoots at CODE. There are many lossmails that show this. Who has done more? I'd say Jennifer. If people want to throw isk at any antigankers at this stage Jennifer seems your best bet!
Erica Dusette Isogen 5 38493	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:52:09 - [133] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: This is not an attack on you, just your thinking on this matter. Seriously give it some thought. I'm confident you'll come around and share your own suggestions. Why would I want to do that? Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again! Part-Time Wormhole Pirate pâä Full-Time Supermodel The Endgame \| Wormhole Diaries
Jennifer en Marland Shiny Violent Killing Toys 32	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:58:45 - [134] - Quote I was going to write a serious reply to your to your points but then I read this: Held der Finsternis wrote: You also can't be so paranoid of letting your duly elected Supreme Commander of Highsec into your chat channels. So I'm not going to waste any more time engaging with a troll. Army of dolls stole all your perfect imperfections.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 20	Posted - 2015.02.20 18:59:02 - [135] - Quote Renegade Heart wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: So what have I done so far? Keep in mind it has been about 2 days..... And you still have no lossmails of gankers. Held der Finsternis wrote: So now... what have YOU done? Jennifer actually goes out there and shoots at CODE. There are many lossmails that show this. Who has done more? I'd say Jennifer. If people want to throw isk at any antigankers at this stage Jennifer seems your best bet! So you admit you didn't read anything I posted. Shooting catalyst pilots who are on a mission to lose their ship is not how you defeat CODE. LMAO. LIke I said, cute as hell. I look forward to the day when we join forces together. The Carebear Problem, as I alluded to earlier, is the well-known fact that carebears and rebels as a whole, as you are demonstrating, favor taking solo actions over group efforts of any significance, favor small actions over actual change, and argue over and over with people who share a common cause with them. But, if you insist on repeatedly failing, I guess I'll just have to deal with that and lead the resistance without you and others of limited thinking on this matter. Jenifer yet again proves my point here: Jennifer en Marland wrote: I So I'm not going to waste any more time engaging with a troll. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 939	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:12:09 - [136] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: So you admit you didn't read anything I posted. Shooting catalyst pilots who are on a mission to lose their ship is not how you defeat CODE. LMAO. LIke I said, cute as hell. Confirming Jennifer has never shot anything but catalysts. Jennifer has earned our respect as a capable and dangerous opponent whom we enjoy battling. One day we might say the same of you. This is not that day. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Renegade Heart Novus Ordo Universum 400	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:13:59 - [137] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: trollolol I read it all. I read most of the blog too. It is not my fault your shoddy reading skills lead you to conclude I am of "limited thinking" and I already stated how to beat CODE earlier in the thread, without mention of shooting any catalysts. You are talking a lot about antiganking though and doing nothing. Talk... inaction... talk... inaction...
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 21	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:25:32 - [138] - Quote Renegade Heart wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: trollolol I read it all. I read most of the blog too. It is not my fault your shoddy reading skills lead you to conclude I am of "limited thinking" and I already stated how to beat CODE earlier in the thread, without mention of shooting any catalysts. You are talking a lot about antiganking though and doing nothing. Talk... inaction... talk... inaction... Not at all, simply saying that to beat CODE. you have to use CODE. tactics in your strategy or you are doomed to fail. You and I have many things we can agree on. I'm trying to get you to the point where you can see that is all. I'll be here for this cause for a very long time. And unlike so many others, I'll engage with them with a fun and polite attitude. This is a game that so many get rather worked up over. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Renegade Heart Novus Ordo Universum 402	Posted - 2015.02.20 19:36:50 - [139] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: Not at all, simply saying that to beat CODE. you have to use CODE. tactics in your strategy or you are doomed to fail. You and I have many things we can agree on. I'm trying to get you to the point where you can see that is all. I'll be here for this cause for a very long time. And unlike so many others, I'll engage with them with a fun and polite attitude. This is a game that so many get rather worked up over. So, are you aware that Jennifer suicide ganked a bump mach? Can we expect to see donations diverted into SRP for such operations in the future? I can appreciate you not wanting to share all of your plan, but surely a killmail of that kind would be something to inspire carebears to part with some of their hard-earned AFK mining income?
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 22	Posted - 2015.02.20 20:06:18 - [140] - Quote Renegade Heart wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: Not at all, simply saying that to beat CODE. you have to use CODE. tactics in your strategy or you are doomed to fail. You and I have many things we can agree on. I'm trying to get you to the point where you can see that is all. I'll be here for this cause for a very long time. And unlike so many others, I'll engage with them with a fun and polite attitude. This is a game that so many get rather worked up over. So, are you aware that Jennifer suicide ganked a bump mach? Can we expect to see donations diverted into SRP for such operations in the future? I can appreciate you not wanting to share all of your plan, but surely a killmail of that kind would be something to inspire carebears to part with some of their hard-earned AFK mining income? In due time, I'm sure. Right now, I'm working on funding an alliance and then recruiting some. I could do it now, but I don't want to deplete the Treasury too quickly at the beginning. There will be some killmails then, and so on, while other parts of the plan are put into motion. While I work on initial funding, I'm getting the blog setup with some initial articles and static resource pages. Of course this will all grow in time, but it's a lot to work on right now for the coming days. To let a little bit out the bag, I'll form up some fleets of fast tackle and fast locking interceptors to engage gank fleets in combat in open space, not just jam them on gates. Time will tell whether that will be effective with rookie rebel pilots or not, but it should be fun for everyone including the gankers. As far as SRP, I definitely want to get there but not how they do SRP for ganking, but more like how they hand out free fitted ships for fleets they FC. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY. 160	Posted - 2015.02.20 20:07:16 - [141] - Quote Jennifer en Marland wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: Jennifer en Marland wrote: Not sure if you're a troll, scammer or both...I'm guessing both Neither. I certainly hope to see you as a shareholder and/or hero very soon so that together we can defeat James 315 and his cronies. Skepticism is healthy, as long as you are open-minded to see how this plays out as my forces march towards victory. The fact that you're asking for isk without ever having done anything to fight Code puts you perilously close to the 'scammer' category. I know you'll never see one cent from me unless you do something pretty amazing that i couldn't do myself. Lord Jasta wrote: So what if a former agent wanted to right the wrongs he had committed before? Then he should hurry up and right them, instead of making forum posts about how he's supposedly going to lead other people into doing it for him Great leaders delegate. Hes gonna hand out roles and have everyone else fight Code, while he sits in his throne and watches over the little mortals.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 647	Posted - 2015.02.20 20:09:23 - [142] - Quote Renegade Heart wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: Not at all, simply saying that to beat CODE. you have to use CODE. tactics in your strategy or you are doomed to fail. You and I have many things we can agree on. I'm trying to get you to the point where you can see that is all. I'll be here for this cause for a very long time. And unlike so many others, I'll engage with them with a fun and polite attitude. This is a game that so many get rather worked up over. So, are you aware that Jennifer suicide ganked a bump mach? Can we expect to see donations diverted into SRP for such operations in the future? I can appreciate you not wanting to share all of your plan, but surely a killmail of that kind would be something to inspire carebears to part with some of their hard-earned AFK mining income? Give the man a chance. He is starting up a grand movement to upset the current power structure of highsec. It has only been three days which is not a lot of time to undo two-and-a-half years of dominance by James 315 and the New Order. I believe Held is the best shot for the rebels that has come along in a long while. Whether they choose to rally behind him or not is up to them, but whatever they choose, I hope some good content comes of it. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Renegade Heart Novus Ordo Universum 404	Posted - 2015.02.20 20:18:17 - [143] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: I hope some good content comes of it. Me too! Scams are cool and all that but nothing new really. It would be fun to see a real rebel movement rise up, and maybe this could be it. Held der Finsternis wrote: it's a lot to work on right now for the coming days. To let a little bit out the bag, I'll form up some fleets of fast tackle and fast locking interceptors to engage gank fleets in combat in open space, not just jam them on gates. Time will tell whether that will be effective with rookie rebel pilots or not, but it should be fun for everyone including the gankers. As far as SRP, I definitely want to get there but not how they do SRP for ganking, but more like how they hand out free fitted ships for fleets they FC. Well this kind of content is the kind of thing that could generate more momentum.You do sound like you know what you are doing, and what you are up against, unlike other past rebels who simply made empty threats. I wish you the best of luck, and will be watching how this pans out!
Alessa Uitoh State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.02.20 22:07:52 - [144] - Quote Very easy way to beat them don't play the game you kill their content and eve itself problem solved
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 939	Posted - 2015.02.20 22:10:10 - [145] - Quote Alessa Uitoh wrote: Very easy way to beat them don't play the game you kill their content and eve itself problem solved In that situation everyone loses, the player in question included. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 513	Posted - 2015.02.20 22:16:24 - [146] - Quote Honestly code has fallen apart to the point where there is no reason to launch a campaign against them. They barely have the manpower to gank a hulk anymore.
Paranoid Loyd 3930	Posted - 2015.02.20 22:21:50 - [147] - Quote 32 Hulk kills this week. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!!!
Alessa Uitoh State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.02.20 22:28:49 - [148] - Quote Code isn't dead they are just in a small area around jita with a few going to hek once in awhile. And even though everyone loses in that case I mentioned it's the only way to kill such a hateful idealogical belief That is allowed to fester in such an environment called eve.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 939	Posted - 2015.02.20 22:37:20 - [149] - Quote Alessa Uitoh wrote: Code isn't dead they are just in a small area around jita with a few going to hek once in awhile. And even though everyone loses in that case I mentioned it's the only way to kill such a hateful idealogical belief That is allowed to fester in such an environment called eve. You're not wrong, but what you're calling for would be all of our enemies never logging back in. That would literally kill Eve. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Renegade Heart Novus Ordo Universum 406	Posted - 2015.02.20 22:44:01 - [150] - Quote Alessa Uitoh wrote: Very easy way to beat them don't play the game you kill their content and eve itself problem solved Are you quitting? If so, can I have your stuff? I ask this to those who intend on following Alessa's advice also. Stuff please!
Alessa Uitoh State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.02.20 22:49:56 - [151] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Alessa Uitoh wrote: Code isn't dead they are just in a small area around jita with a few going to hek once in awhile. And even though everyone loses in that case I mentioned it's the only way to kill such a hateful idealogical belief That is allowed to fester in such an environment called eve. You're not wrong, but what you're calling for would be all of our enemies never logging back in. That would literally kill Eve. You are right it would but I wasn't saying it wouldn't. Sadly it's the only way to make people like Code to give up is to basically play a bit of brinkmanship with eve's lively hood to make them stop.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 942	Posted - 2015.02.20 22:52:18 - [152] - Quote Alessa Uitoh wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: Alessa Uitoh wrote: Code isn't dead they are just in a small area around jita with a few going to hek once in awhile. And even though everyone loses in that case I mentioned it's the only way to kill such a hateful idealogical belief That is allowed to fester in such an environment called eve. You're not wrong, but what you're calling for would be all of our enemies never logging back in. That would literally kill Eve. You are right it would but I wasn't saying it wouldn't. Sadly it's the only way to make people like Code to give up is to basically play a bit of brinkmanship with eve's lively hood to make them stop. Yup. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Alessa Uitoh State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.02.20 23:03:02 - [153] - Quote I wouldn't be surprised if they (ccp) did something if it shows that ganging starts to hurt the bottom line for them just look what they did to AWOXing.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 942	Posted - 2015.02.20 23:05:31 - [154] - Quote Alessa Uitoh wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if they (ccp) did something if it shows that ganging starts to hurt the bottom line for them just look what they did to AWOXing. Correction: The awoxing change was not due to any effect it may or may not have had on the bottom line, it was determined that the mechanic was not intuitive. (Name one other game where joining a clan / guild / whatever allows you to kill people you would normally expect to be your allies) CCP made no mention of economics of any kind in the discussion surrounding changing the mechanic. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Kaarous Aldurald Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 11864	Posted - 2015.02.20 23:22:39 - [155] - Quote So I read that blog, and I had to go get a Tums afterward. Yikes. What in the actual hell is that supposed to be? "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Renegade Heart Novus Ordo Universum 407	Posted - 2015.02.21 00:01:13 - [156] - Quote Alessa Uitoh wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if they (ccp) did something if it shows that ganging starts to hurt the bottom line for them just look what they did to AWOXing. CCP stated before that ganking is here to stay. They created tags4sec to help gankers that want to keep sec status higher. On top of that, CCP recently confirmed that hyperdunking is valid gameplay. I would be quite surprised if ganking was removed from the game!
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY. 167	Posted - 2015.02.21 01:05:09 - [157] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Honestly code has fallen apart to the point where there is no reason to launch a campaign against them. They barely have the manpower to gank a hulk anymore. https://zkillboard.com/kill/44745912/
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY. 167	Posted - 2015.02.21 01:07:10 - [158] - Quote Alessa Uitoh wrote: Code isn't dead they are just in a small area around jita with a few going to hek once in awhile. And even though everyone loses in that case I mentioned it's the only way to kill such a hateful idealogical belief That is allowed to fester in such an environment called eve. Yeah, cause eve isnt a game where the strong prey on the weak. Where idiots are exploited, and where people scam and greif and bait and steal.... All these hateful ideological beliefs never existed until Code came along. I think youre playing the wrong game.
Alessa Uitoh State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.02.21 01:28:54 - [159] - Quote I'm aware if what they said. I'm just saying that what someone says and does are two different things and saying just wait one day they will if it hurts their bottom line.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 27	Posted - 2015.02.21 04:03:03 - [160] - Quote I have assembled some of the greatest minds Highsec has ever seen together in one chat channel called "Council of Uedama" and all rebels and rebel supporters are welcome to join. It is here that we will examine the old Code and draft the New Code of Uedama. Together these "old" and "new" works are believed to be put together into a new BOOK or something like that. We will think of a catchy title. I will lock myself in the Council chambers until the Council publishes the final works. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Ryuu Towryk The Nephilim Covenant 44	Posted - 2015.02.21 09:11:08 - [161] - Quote I am thoroughly amused by their antics and pseudo-religious chat spam.
Azov Rassau Neo CONCORD 171	Posted - 2015.02.21 11:09:01 - [162] - Quote Sorry for this slight off-topic, but it's ironical (and funny) how some 1-man corp heroes in this thread (and other threads) criticize and accuse others of being in 1-man corps. A player who decides to stay in 1-man corp doesn't necessarily mean he's anti-social and doesn't fit any group of players. Maybe he's semi-inactive because of RL like I am, maybe he dislikes the tax of NPC corps or maybe simply has a particular gameplay style relying on solo activities.. I myself used to team up with others without joining their corps, and had fun shooting things in high/low. There's the freedom that comes from it, too. There are also people who stay in NPC corps because they prefer to keep it simple. They don't want to deal with all the additional stress that comes from politics, wars, diplomacy, drama etc... they just login after a busy and stressful day at work, undock, join their favorite NPSI fleet, shoot things for like an hour and logout... It's up to the player's decision when it comes to choosing a corp to play in this sandbox. HoweverGÇª.. those who stay in NPC corps just to avoid wars, imprison themselves to Highsec without any form of PvP and any form of player interaction... they're weird indeed. If they mine, I wouldn't mind bumping them out of range or contacting experienced people who will professionally locate them & gank them so that those people can experience how fun EVE can be. There is nothing wrong with being more interested in PvE or mining. But, for example, if a player continuously does Highsec mining like a robot for years during his entire EVE gameplay, some things need to be done to save him. @OP: People want to see killmails, ganker tears, fights, chat logs, stopped ganks, wars, explosions, wrecks, tackled thrashers, ganked machs, infiltrated corps, jammed catalysts, battle skiffs, billions of stuff stolen and, above all, Highsec Fun! that would make a blog more entertaining and less boring to read. I always liked the blog idea. Considering the amount of Anti-ganking memories I had and having seen a lack of such publications, I had started my own blog page several months agoGÇª I had so much fun sharing those simple short stories, often laughing out loud in RL while injecting some humor to those posts. Damn, can't wait to get back to EVE and jam some Catalysts! I hope you'll enjoy what you're doing, too. On a final note, accusing Jenn of not doing anything was totally inappropriate. If there is someone who doesn't wait for new mechanics and does some of the things I listed above, it's definitely Jenn. No AFKing. Safety First. Use D-Scan, Check Local. Be Alert. www.GankerJamming.com Need your stuff moved? Join channel [HC] Haulers Hub or make a cool private contract to Red Frog Freight!
Renegade Heart Novus Ordo Universum 410	Posted - 2015.02.21 11:41:22 - [163] - Quote Cannibal Kane wrote: There is a reason why people in AG are mostly in NPC or 1 man corps... like you are. I am curious, but why are you in a 1 man corp then? What about your scout alts? Are they in NPC corps? I know why I prefer 1 man corps and it has nothing to do with being scared of conflict. Also, I like antiganking! (and ganking too lol).
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 28	Posted - 2015.02.21 18:46:16 - [164] - Quote The Council of Uedama was up into late early hours working tirelessly on revising the Old Code. Copies were disseminated throughout Highsec for a short period of time before the revision will be posted onto the Heroes website. Full minutes from the Council of Uedama chat logs will be made available to the public. In the coming days, the Council will reconvene to draft the New Code of Uedama, the Code of the Heroes of Highsec. Taken together, the Old Code (revised) and the New Code shall be combined into one great Book to be used as guidance for all of highsec, the old and the new. Despite some skepticism and disbelief, it is becoming clearer to everyone of Highsec that the Heroes of Highsec is a legitimate rebel movement here permanently until the glorious victory over the New Order one day. Together, we can ensure that day arrives sooner than most anticipate. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Bianca Silver Clarity Incorporated Anoikis Ronin 1705	Posted - 2015.02.21 19:16:41 - [165] - Quote Renegade Heart wrote: Cannibal Kane wrote: There is a reason why people in AG are mostly in NPC or 1 man corps... like you are. I am curious, but why are you in a 1 man corp then? What about your scout alts? Are they in NPC corps? I know why I prefer 1 man corps and it has nothing to do with being scared of conflict. Also, I like antiganking! (and ganking too lol). Pretty sure Cannibal Kane is a one man army. Always an exception to every rule.
Nacho Halaima Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.02.22 07:59:44 - [166] - Quote I endorse this new rebel movement. Held der Finsternis is funny as a guy can get if you've ever heard him on TS. He could have a hugely successful future as an impressionist with how well he imitates the voice and mannerisms of a former Jita isk doubler who was forced into early retirement. but instead of impersonating a infamous scammer he's chosen a more humble path and is leading the charge to bring down the New Order. Sounds like a winning investment to me and my check is in the mail.
Jallukola 40	Posted - 2015.02.22 09:12:32 - [167] - Quote Who's James 315? Leo Moracchioli - All About That Bass Leo Moracchioli - Shake It Off
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 847	Posted - 2015.02.22 10:40:42 - [168] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Honestly code has fallen apart to the point where there is no reason to launch a campaign against them. They barely have the manpower to gank a hulk anymore. I am glad you are still on our side and help deflect this threat with false information Agent Veldspar. I don't even want to imagine what would happen if you joined their rankes, as you are our number one recruiter. the Code ALWAYS wins
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 847	Posted - 2015.02.22 10:42:04 - [169] - Quote Jallukola wrote: Who's James 315? He onwns Highsec, the biggest and most valuable part of space in New Eden. the Code ALWAYS wins
Jallukola 40	Posted - 2015.02.22 11:07:09 - [170] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Jallukola wrote: Who's James 315? He onwns Highsec, the biggest and most valuable part of space in New Eden. Sounds like just a pubbie inthurwebz toughguy getting worked over trivialism and video games, I.E. just wasted my time for some smalltimer. Leo Moracchioli - All About That Bass Leo Moracchioli - Shake It Off
Renegade Heart Novus Ordo Universum 410	Posted - 2015.02.22 11:12:37 - [171] - Quote Jallukola wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: Jallukola wrote: Who's James 315? He onwns Highsec, the biggest and most valuable part of space in New Eden. Sounds like just a pubbie inthurwebz toughguy getting worked over trivialism and video games, I.E. just wasted my time for some smalltimer. Actually he has helped provide a lot of content to high sec, and people sent him over half a trillion isk in support of this. I can't imagine that people have sent you that much isk to support whatever it is that you do.
Aldeskwatso Highsec Heroes Indecent Exposure Alliance 49	Posted - 2015.02.22 11:26:20 - [172] - Quote Despite the new order being a joke/troll humored along by an army of alts. They do add some colour to the overall grayness that is highsec at times. I wouldn't want to see them go at all. What is the point of going after some alts? If they had any balls swinging it might be a different story, but overall it seems they lacking. None the less, mobilizing that many consistantly is quite a feat deserving a tip of the hat. I wouldn't be able to do it. The biggest obstacle you'll encounter doing anything is yourself.
Tyyler DURden Mordechai and Sons Distribution Co. 68	Posted - 2015.02.22 16:21:44 - [173] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Jallukola wrote: Who's James 315? He onwns Highsec, the biggest and most valuable part of space in New Eden. Actually I own highsec, I did that same taking everyones vote by proxy thing that he did. I took two votes off all you code guys cause I thought that would be funny and ironic. I renamed it Tyysec and I'm thinking about selling off about half of it. So anyone interested in some space real estate contact me in game and we will work something out. 1 isk per system!!! What a steal. I'm not greedy and anybody should be able to own space because they say they do. Tyyler DURden says "use soap"
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 30	Posted - 2015.02.23 04:28:08 - [174] - Quote I'm pleased to report that the Revised CODE of the New Order is completed and posted on HeroesofHighsec.com Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY. 176	Posted - 2015.02.23 04:53:46 - [175] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: I'm pleased to report that the Revised CODE of the New Order is completed and posted on HeroesofHighsec.com I like the MS paint revision. It gives the code a more personal touch.
Zepher Helen Hawat ULTRAMAR SECURITIES 42	Posted - 2015.02.23 06:45:23 - [176] - Quote Disappointing. I was expecting some original thoughts & ideas, yet the OP is just riding the coattails of James 315's work. I do not see this lasting long. Most unfortunate.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 2015	Posted - 2015.02.23 06:53:48 - [177] - Quote Too be fair, if you actually intended to do something substantive to counter CODE. you'd sabotage yourself instantly by posting it in C&P. Not that a counter movement to CODE. will ever exist. It won't, and for a very simple reason: The people who CODE. target, and that are against CODE. are inherently people who are highly averse to the idea of actually taking action. The fact that carebears are also typically hugely antisocial, massively paranoid and wholly concerned with themselves doesn't help them either. It's frankly more likely for CCP to remove ganking from the game or for the members of CODE. to get bored and do something else than it is for carebears to accomplish anything.
Alastair Ormand Don't run with a stick in your mouth. 129	Posted - 2015.02.23 07:10:31 - [178] - Quote CODE will be implanting a spy shortly. Well done moron. Don't run with a stick in your mouth.
Gerhard Stringfellow Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.02.23 07:19:12 - [179] - Quote CODE is about as relevant as a VCR. I can't say I know anyone who takes them seriously, especially considering they don't seem to honor their own extortion agreements.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 30	Posted - 2015.02.23 07:31:04 - [180] - Quote Alastair Ormand wrote: CODE will be implanting a spy shortly. Well done moron. I'm sure there will be spies, but they won't be able to take anything or do anything remotely disruptive. I know their tricks and their methods. I am implementing security measures in my own corp (and soon alliance) that will prevent most of what they have done to everyone else. The risks of posting what I choose to C&P are far less than the benefit the Heroes of HIghsec get from the exposure. I'm glad so many are posting their criticisms here publicly though. It will be all the sweeter when we achieve final victory over the New Order. I'm not taking any of this personally, it's par for the course when dealing with this subject matter. I look forward to welcoming most of the dissenters into the warm embrace of the Heroes of Highsec once we have racked up victory after victory... Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 652	Posted - 2015.02.23 07:38:32 - [181] - Quote Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: CODE is about as relevant as a VCR. I can't say I know anyone who takes them seriously, especially considering they don't seem to honor their own extortion agreements. Well, over 70,000 pilots and their 11+ trillion ISK might disagree with you. Looks like you are off to a good start Held. I guess as time goes on we will see who the heart of citizens of highsec really lies with - you and your Heroes of Highsec or James 315 and the New Order. Let the battle for the soul of highsec commence! Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 2016	Posted - 2015.02.23 07:42:12 - [182] - Quote Their lack of relevance is exactly why he is posting in this thread about them.
Gerhard Stringfellow Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.02.23 07:45:00 - [183] - Quote You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go. And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves.
Jishi Padecain Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 28	Posted - 2015.02.23 07:52:38 - [184] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: Alastair Ormand wrote: CODE will be implanting a spy shortly. Well done moron. I'm sure there will be spies, but they won't be able to take anything or do anything remotely disruptive. I know their tricks and their methods. I am implementing security measures in my own corp (and soon alliance) that will prevent most of what they have done to everyone else. I am sure I will enjoy reading about all of these 'effective' security methods in a future minerbumping article.
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY. 177	Posted - 2015.02.23 07:56:32 - [185] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: Alastair Ormand wrote: CODE will be implanting a spy shortly. Well done moron. I'm sure there will be spies, but they won't be able to take anything or do anything remotely disruptive. I know their tricks and their methods. I am implementing security measures in my own corp (and soon alliance) that will prevent most of what they have done to everyone else. The risks of posting what I choose to C&P are far less than the benefit the Heroes of HIghsec get from the exposure. I'm glad so many are posting their criticisms here publicly though. It will be all the sweeter when we achieve final victory over the New Order. I'm not taking any of this personally, it's par for the course when dealing with this subject matter. I look forward to welcoming most of the dissenters into the warm embrace of the Heroes of Highsec once we have racked up victory after victory... You should employ JTClone ares into your corp as a director. Surely after being the victim of 2 successful awox/corp/alliance takeover events, he mustve learned something by now.
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY. 177	Posted - 2015.02.23 07:58:20 - [186] - Quote Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go. And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves. Yeah, because extortion, scams and trickery are so rare in Eve online.
Gerhard Stringfellow Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.02.23 08:05:10 - [187] - Quote Solonius Rex wrote: Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go. And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves. Yeah, because extortion, scams and trickery are so rare in Eve online. Yeah, but trying to rely on the same con in the same place with the same people again and again isn't very smart.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 30	Posted - 2015.02.23 08:22:44 - [188] - Quote Solonius Rex wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: Alastair Ormand wrote: CODE will be implanting a spy shortly. Well done moron. I'm sure there will be spies, but they won't be able to take anything or do anything remotely disruptive. I know their tricks and their methods. I am implementing security measures in my own corp (and soon alliance) that will prevent most of what they have done to everyone else. The risks of posting what I choose to C&P are far less than the benefit the Heroes of HIghsec get from the exposure. I'm glad so many are posting their criticisms here publicly though. It will be all the sweeter when we achieve final victory over the New Order. I'm not taking any of this personally, it's par for the course when dealing with this subject matter. I look forward to welcoming most of the dissenters into the warm embrace of the Heroes of Highsec once we have racked up victory after victory... You should employ JTClone ares into your corp as a director. Surely after being the victim of 2 successful awox/corp/alliance takeover events, he mustve learned something by now. Funny you mention that. One of JTClone's alliances was made available for sale to me. I thought on the one hand, it would be somewhat fitting, but on the other hand forebode failure... so I will be taking an alternative approach. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Solonius Rex F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY. 178	Posted - 2015.02.23 08:27:10 - [189] - Quote Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: Solonius Rex wrote: Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go. And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves. Yeah, because extortion, scams and trickery are so rare in Eve online. Yeah, but trying to rely on the same con in the same place with the same people again and again isn't very smart. Yeah, cause no one spams the same contract scam in jita, over and over and over again. No one spams the same isk doubling claim, over and over and over again. No one spams the same margin trading market scam, over and over and over again.
Gerhard Stringfellow Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.02.23 08:37:25 - [190] - Quote Solonius Rex wrote: Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: Solonius Rex wrote: Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go. And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves. Yeah, because extortion, scams and trickery are so rare in Eve online. Yeah, but trying to rely on the same con in the same place with the same people again and again isn't very smart. Yeah, cause no one spams the same contract scam in jita, over and over and over again. No one spams the same isk doubling claim, over and over and over again. No one spams the same margin trading market scam, over and over and over again. If you want to fantasize that your corp of <300 is gonna make hi sec it's *****, go for it. I'll end with saying that it's not a big deal there, at least aside from the random person in rookie channel complaining they got ganked. And it's definitely not worthy of some rebellion, it's as much of a rebellion in and of itself as a stray crackhouse is to a respectable neighborhood.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 654	Posted - 2015.02.23 08:47:17 - [191] - Quote Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go. Since there are many threads on this already, and this thread is about a new rebel organization, I won't bother fully rebutting this tired old trope that is brought out from time-to-time. Permits are honoured - please point to one credible example where a permit holder was ganked while following the Code - but they are not a license to AFK mine or engage in otherwise undesirable activity in New Order territory. If you look at those stats in that killboard link, you will see that Ventures (frigates actually) make up only about 5% of CODE.'s kills yet they represent the majority of mining bots. If anything, CODE. should be stepping up its patrols against the little yellow menace to the highsec economy. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory. 1528	Posted - 2015.02.23 10:33:09 - [192] - Quote Is that still a thing? TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie Brawlers Inc. 1462	Posted - 2015.02.23 11:24:30 - [193] - Quote Quote: Since the Heroes of Highsec do not yet have a teamspeak, one our brave secret agents created a channel on CODE.'s own teamspeak. Please stop, I can't breathe from laughing. New Player Placement Specialist and Scope Project FC. Contact me for a free consultation.
Chocolate Mooses The Conference Elite CODE. 16	Posted - 2015.02.23 12:44:48 - [194] - Quote Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go. And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves. Please show us what you do that is highly represented whenever you go, and how much "legitimate" content you create. Only use "fair" fights as a example. Also scamming is bad, mmmkay and grrrr goons.
Gaylord Fappington GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 66	Posted - 2015.02.23 16:21:40 - [195] - Quote BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Quote: Since the Heroes of Highsec do not yet have a teamspeak, one our brave secret agents created a channel on CODE.'s own teamspeak. Please stop, I can't breathe from laughing. They've already infiltrated Code. This really may be a revolution to watch. Read up on your Crane Brinton guys, The HoH obviously have.
Sasha Nyemtsov Systems Administration and Control 126	Posted - 2015.02.23 16:54:51 - [196] - Quote Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go. And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves. Hi Gerhard, I believe that, following extended discussion with him, CCP required James 315's activities to be founded on a commercial basis. Thus, the first line of the New Halaima Code of Conduct: 'Although profit is a primary motive of my new business...'. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz Adoudel for CSM X
Ned Thomas Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 929	Posted - 2015.02.23 19:06:02 - [197] - Quote Hope I'm not too late for this: I endorse this product and/or service. Vote Sabriz!
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 943	Posted - 2015.02.23 19:10:41 - [198] - Quote Sasha Nyemtsov wrote: Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: You'd think with 70000000000000 pilots and 110000000000000000000000 isk such a prestigious organization would be above selling junk protection agreements to newbies in their ventures that they don't honor anyway. That being said, maybe you're knee deep in your section, but you're sorely underrepresented wherever I go. And I think this whole thing is a scam attempt to try and legitimize yourselves. Hi Gerhard, I believe that, following extended discussion with him, CCP required James 315's activities to be founded on a commercial basis. Thus, the first line of the New Halaima Code of Conduct: 'Although profit is a primary motive of my new business...'. Yup, otherwise it's just extortion. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Gaylord Fappington GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 67	Posted - 2015.02.23 19:21:15 - [199] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Yup, otherwise it's just extortion. 1. Educate Miners 2. Save HiSec and Eve Online 3. ?????? 4. Profit! Before you start yelling, Veers, the ?????? isn't extortion, its The Code.
Ned Thomas Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 929	Posted - 2015.02.23 19:23:36 - [200] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Yup, otherwise it's just extortion. Hmmm......I wonder if anyone who has tried to interfere with Code has ever been required to have a similar profit motive.... Vote Sabriz!
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 943	Posted - 2015.02.23 19:25:03 - [201] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: Yup, otherwise it's just extortion. Hmmm......I wonder if anyone who has tried to interfere with Code has ever been required to have a similar profit motive.... Not that I know of. To the best of my knowledge no one else has been told they need to do that. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Sasha Nyemtsov Systems Administration and Control 127	Posted - 2015.02.23 20:45:25 - [202] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: Yup, otherwise it's just extortion. Hmmm......I wonder if anyone who has tried to interfere with Code has ever been required to have a similar profit motive.... Not that I know of. To the best of my knowledge no one else has been told they need to do that. Hi Tengu, that's a very interesting observation. My guess is that it was the boldness and sheer creative audacity of James' gameplay which, through the mewling of the ice-miners, drew CCP's attention to his activities. The result was what James described as 'An Exciting Business Opportunity'. He says that he has 'hammered out a EULA-compliant business plan that will enable all EVE to invest in Halaima's bright new future', and, later in the same essay, 'I... have been in direct contact with the people who actually enforce the EULA, to ensure that my business is in full compliance.' The complete essay, 'I have taken command of the Halaima ice field: An exciting business opportunity!', can be read here. The OP may be 'sick and tired' of James 315, but his business is proper legit. And as for him being a tyrant? Well, in all my dealings with him, he has never swerved from being well-mannered, supportive and fun. Mischievous? Certainly. A tyrant? Never. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz Adoudel for CSM X
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Origin. Black Legion. 1968	Posted - 2015.02.23 21:16:39 - [203] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: I'm pleased to report that the Revised CODE of the New Order is completed and posted on HeroesofHighsec.com Also, see my bio for important updates such as new mailing list, chat channels, etc. Sadly the meat of my delicious commentary (and feedback) was omitted from much of the thought process, and the organizers simply ignored any feedback contrary to their own from impartial neutrals like myself. I would recommend a reading of the complete transcript (ostensibly with a 'Find' on 'Feyd' for the compelling nuggets amongst the trash). F Would you like to know more?
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 944	Posted - 2015.02.23 21:26:57 - [204] - Quote Sasha Nyemtsov wrote: And as for him being a tyrant? Well, in all my dealings with him, he has never swerved from being well-mannered, supportive and fun. Mischievous? Certainly. A tyrant? Never. You're talking of James here correct? Because if you are, I am in full agreement with you. The Saviour has been nothing but patient and kind in my experience. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Sasha Nyemtsov Systems Administration and Control 128	Posted - 2015.02.23 22:19:56 - [205] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Sasha Nyemtsov wrote: And as for him being a tyrant? Well, in all my dealings with him, he has never swerved from being well-mannered, supportive and fun. Mischievous? Certainly. A tyrant? Never. You're talking of James here correct? Because if you are, I am in full agreement with you. The Saviour has been nothing but patient and kind in my experience. Yes, Tengu, James. www.minerbumping.com Sabriz Adoudel for CSM X
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 532	Posted - 2015.02.24 06:08:11 - [206] - Quote Sasha Nyemtsov wrote: Tengu Grib wrote: Sasha Nyemtsov wrote: And as for him being a tyrant? Well, in all my dealings with him, he has never swerved from being well-mannered, supportive and fun. Mischievous? Certainly. A tyrant? Never. You're talking of James here correct? Because if you are, I am in full agreement with you. The Saviour has been nothing but patient and kind in my experience. Yes, Tengu, James. His entire playstyle is a form of institutionalized tyranny.
Jishi Padecain Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2015.02.24 06:15:56 - [207] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: His entire playstyle is a form of institutionalized tyranny. A sinner passing judgment on a Saint. How hilariously absurd. You really do live in a backwards world, Veers.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 33	Posted - 2015.02.24 07:11:25 - [208] - Quote New blog post up. If you have been a scam victim or know someone who has, check it out! Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Danalee Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective 1126	Posted - 2015.02.24 08:01:35 - [209] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: New blog post up. If you have been a scam victim or know someone who has, check it out! Oh lordy! A blog that mocks and milks the target audience for isk is at the same time a good source for new targets... Well played! D. STOP OPPRESSING MEEEEEEE
Bagatur I School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 49	Posted - 2015.02.24 14:02:21 - [210] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: CODE is about as relevant as a VCR. I can't say I know anyone who takes them seriously, especially considering they don't seem to honor their own extortion agreements. Well, over 70,000 pilots and their 11+ trillion ISK might disagree with you. Looks like you are off to a good start Held. I guess as time goes on we will see who the heart of citizens of highsec really lies with - you and your Heroes of Highsec or James 315 and the New Order. Let the battle for the soul of highsec commence! apparently you cant distinguish between ship kills and pilots. in reality a much much smaller number of PILOTS encountered CODE. I would think that number of pilots who lost ships to NPC rats in the same amount of time is much bigger. CODE is as relevant as NPC rats, with the difference being PCs, not NPCs.
admiral root Red Galaxy 2425	Posted - 2015.02.24 14:41:23 - [211] - Quote Bagatur I wrote: I would think that number of pilots who lost ships to NPC rats in the same amount of time is much bigger. And you're ok with that in a PvP game? No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Karla the Careless Beyond Reproach 2	Posted - 2015.02.24 22:45:42 - [212] - Quote Still ain't getting no steenking purmint from you or those code people.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 34	Posted - 2015.02.25 08:38:33 - [213] - Quote Karla the Careless wrote: Still ain't getting no steenking purmint from you or those code people. After our forces defeat the New Order, there will be no need to own a mining permit. I am not asking you to buy a permit of any kind. However, it would obviously help for you to voluntarily purchase shares to help the cause, even if just a small amount. Or join the fight. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Gerhard Stringfellow Instinctive Gaming Incorporated. 7	Posted - 2015.02.25 10:01:26 - [214] - Quote God damn it, there is no high throne of hi-sec that's itching to be filled. By it's very nature its impossible for someone to impose authority in it the way people can in null-sec, especially for these comically tiny Corps that seem to be springing up recently saying the own the damn place, and with all of its restrictions the big guns are out of play to start. Most of you are still in that proto-corp phase where you'll probably fizzle out, and none of you aren't in charge of anything. If you want to hold space, get your guns and carve out a place in null-sec where it'll actually be real ownership; you can't have both the security of high sec and actually own anything.
Thomas Mayaki Perkone Caldari State 47	Posted - 2015.02.25 11:01:03 - [215] - Quote I haven't seen James 315 in years does he still actually play Eve? Anyway its been more than a year since the New Order quietly surrendered to the miners of highsec. You occasionly see the occasional New Order guy on the forums plead to CCP for some nerf but thats about it. Since Loyalanon took over and realised miner ganking was too hard they have focused their efforts on ganking freighters which seems to suit the low skilled F1 button pushers quite well. Perhaps the New Order eventually realised how essential the AFK miners are to New Eden? Who knows!
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 662	Posted - 2015.02.25 11:23:50 - [216] - Quote Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: God damn it, there is no high throne of hi-sec that's itching to be filled. By it's very nature its impossible for someone to impose authority in it the way people can in null-sec, especially for these comically tiny Corps that seem to be springing up recently saying the own the damn place, and with all of its restrictions the big guns are out of play to start. Most of you are still in that proto-corp phase where you'll probably fizzle out, and none of you aren't in charge of anything. Why does someone claiming highsec bother you so much? James 315 has for almost three years laid claim to this part of New Eden, ever since he was democratically elected Saviour of Highsec by the citizens there. He has done an exemplary job in this role, generating content and improving the highsec experience for everyone. Also, I think you need to check your facts a little. Last June, the CODE. alliance was inflicting more damage than the largest alliances in the game. While there are many metrics for measuring success in the sandbox, that certainly isn't the work of a "comically tiny" corp. I think it is great that Held is making an effort to overthrow the Saviour. His group may be small now, but so was the New Order when it only consisted of a solitary James 315, bumping miners alone in the Halaima ice fields. You know what? He heard the same taunts that he was "too small", that he wouldn't be able to make a difference, and that no one can claim highsec that you are throwing at Held now. But now James 315 and the New Order are regularly imposing their will on highsec, exactly as you would expect from those in authority. Perhaps this movement will fizzle out, perhaps it won't, but whatever the case it promises to generate that sweet emergent content that we all crave. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Azov Rassau Neo CONCORD 175	Posted - 2015.02.25 11:31:47 - [217] - Quote Black Pedro wrote: Perhaps this movement will fizzle out, perhaps it won't, but whatever the case it promises to generate that sweet emergent content that we all crave. Amen to that. No AFKing. Safety First. Use D-Scan, Check Local. Be Alert. www.GankerJamming.com Need your stuff moved? Join channel [HC] Haulers Hub or make a cool private contract to Red Frog Freight!
admiral root Red Galaxy 2428	Posted - 2015.02.25 11:43:01 - [218] - Quote Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: By it's very nature its impossible for someone to impose authority in it the way people can in null-sec, You mean by rolling up in force and laying waste to the enemy? Yup, definitely can't be doing any of that in highsec. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Gerhard Stringfellow Instinctive Gaming Incorporated. 7	Posted - 2015.02.25 11:59:39 - [219] - Quote admiral root wrote: Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: By it's very nature its impossible for someone to impose authority in it the way people can in null-sec, You mean by rolling up in force and laying waste to the enemy? Yup, definitely can't be doing any of that in highsec. The day I see somebody going into Hi-sec really enforcing their authority and acting in a manner that's halfway authoritative I'll respect it, if I have too. When I see corps with members numbering in the 1000's I'll start paying attention; What I'm tired of is a bunch of glorified streetgangs going around proclaiming their supremacy without anything to back it up. Hell, I might as well declare myself god emperor and it would have the same damn effect. It's nothing against the groups individually, whatever their stances are or aren't. My experience has been that these groups can't even control their own members and aren't organized enough to even keep track of who's under their "protection" or not, and honestly I think it's a group of people who's memorable accomplishment in high sec has been causing rookies to ask in the rookie channel why they were ganked. And that isn't considering the fact that half competent mining fleets are able to chase them off with drones. I'm at the point now where I'm repeating myself, and I hope this makes my stance known.
admiral root Red Galaxy 2428	Posted - 2015.02.25 12:09:32 - [220] - Quote So you do you respect James 315 as the saviour of highsec? This pleases me greatly. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
McChicken Combo HalfMayo The Happy Meal 325	Posted - 2015.02.25 12:40:16 - [221] - Quote Gerhard Stringfellow wrote: The day I see somebody going into Hi-sec really enforcing their authority and acting in a manner that's halfway authoritative I'll respect it, if I have too. When I see corps with members numbering in the 1000's I'll start paying attention; Thousands you say! You have some very high expectations. ~ Bookmarks in overview ~ Fleet improvements
Inata Policar Perkone Caldari State 7	Posted - 2015.02.25 14:48:24 - [222] - Quote Hiasa Kite wrote: Drez Arthie wrote: I strike at thee CODE with corny acronyms! Catalyst Overheats, Dies .. Excitement! Carebears Of Deklein in Empire Can't Obtain Daytime Employment Call Of Duty Expats? I can't breath
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 951	Posted - 2015.02.25 19:56:30 - [223] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: New blog post up. If you have been a scam victim or know someone who has, check it out! I refuse to read your heresies. Also your colour scheme is ugly. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Karla the Careless Beyond Reproach 3	Posted - 2015.02.25 22:20:51 - [224] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: Karla the Careless wrote: Still ain't getting no steenking purmint from you or those code people. After our forces defeat the New Order, there will be no need to own a mining permit. I am not asking you to buy a permit of any kind. However, it would obviously help for you to voluntarily purchase shares to help the cause, even if just a small amount. Or join the fight. From your site: Mining indulgences may be purchased for 10 million isk per character, and are good for one year, subject to loss. A carebear is deemed to have lost his permit if he makes egregious violations of suggestions found herein the Old Code. He can always purchase a new one without limitation. Permits may also be purchased on behalf of others, including all members of a corporation, provided that the permit holders generally abide by most of the suggestions, most of the time. It is generally expected that carebears shall display their permits proudly via an attribution in their bios. A standard format shall by suggested by his agent, and such format may change from time to time. Records may be maintained so as to combat the possibility of a counterfeit permit. Upon being suicide ganked, a carebear should congratulate the ganker on his success. A "good fight" or "gf" in local is customary. Traditionally, this is a good opportunity for a carebear to purchase a permit and discuss the merits of the Old Code. On top of that, it seems that more than a few of your "shareholders" are from the old code Pretty hard to say that permits are not required, so I still ain't getting no steenking permint from you or those code people On top of that, it seems that more than a few of your "shareholders" are from the old code. A prime example of new boss is just like the old boss.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 951	Posted - 2015.02.25 23:03:29 - [225] - Quote Karla the Careless wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: Karla the Careless wrote: Still ain't getting no steenking purmint from you or those code people. After our forces defeat the New Order, there will be no need to own a mining permit. I am not asking you to buy a permit of any kind. However, it would obviously help for you to voluntarily purchase shares to help the cause, even if just a small amount. Or join the fight. From your site: Mining indulgences may be purchased for 10 million isk per character, and are good for one year, subject to loss. A carebear is deemed to have lost his permit if he makes egregious violations of suggestions found herein the Old Code. He can always purchase a new one without limitation. Permits may also be purchased on behalf of others, including all members of a corporation, provided that the permit holders generally abide by most of the suggestions, most of the time. It is generally expected that carebears shall display their permits proudly via an attribution in their bios. A standard format shall by suggested by his agent, and such format may change from time to time. Records may be maintained so as to combat the possibility of a counterfeit permit. Upon being suicide ganked, a carebear should congratulate the ganker on his success. A "good fight" or "gf" in local is customary. Traditionally, this is a good opportunity for a carebear to purchase a permit and discuss the merits of the Old Code. On top of that, it seems that more than a few of your "shareholders" are from the old code Pretty hard to say that permits are not required, so I still ain't getting no steenking permint from you or those code people On top of that, it seems that more than a few of your "shareholders" are from the old code. A prime example of new boss is just like the old boss. Held is a pretentious heretic, but many of our calling support his cause despite finding his writings revolting. That is because he promises to bring us what none of his predecessors could, a fight. Seeing as carebears are notorious for infighting he'll never succeed, but we like to encourage him. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 34	Posted - 2015.02.25 23:36:48 - [226] - Quote Karla the Careless wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: Karla the Careless wrote: Still ain't getting no steenking purmint from you or those code people. After our forces defeat the New Order, there will be no need to own a mining permit. I am not asking you to buy a permit of any kind. However, it would obviously help for you to voluntarily purchase shares to help the cause, even if just a small amount. Or join the fight. From your site: Mining indulgences may be purchased for 10 million isk per character, and are good for one year, subject to loss. A carebear is deemed to have lost his permit if he makes egregious violations of suggestions found herein the Old Code. He can always purchase a new one without limitation. Permits may also be purchased on behalf of others, including all members of a corporation, provided that the permit holders generally abide by most of the suggestions, most of the time. It is generally expected that carebears shall display their permits proudly via an attribution in their bios. A standard format shall by suggested by his agent, and such format may change from time to time. Records may be maintained so as to combat the possibility of a counterfeit permit. Upon being suicide ganked, a carebear should congratulate the ganker on his success. A "good fight" or "gf" in local is customary. Traditionally, this is a good opportunity for a carebear to purchase a permit and discuss the merits of the Old Code. On top of that, it seems that more than a few of your "shareholders" are from the old code Pretty hard to say that permits are not required, so I still ain't getting no steenking permint from you or those code people On top of that, it seems that more than a few of your "shareholders" are from the old code. A prime example of new boss is just like the old boss. Yes, that is the New Order's Code. Soon, our Code shall be posted. Feel free to look around the site as your questions and comments will be answered there. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Origin. Black Legion. 1987	Posted - 2015.02.27 15:32:02 - [227] - Quote I think if you just embedded the notion of no mechanics nerfs into your counter-CODE, I could get behind you. We have been saying for years that the tear-filled need to man-up and pew those they complain about (like CODE), so it would be hypocrisy not to support such an initiative if bounded properly against the heresy of mechanics nerfs. F Would you like to know more?
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 69	Posted - 2015.02.27 17:50:50 - [228] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: I think if you just embedded the notion of no mechanics nerfs into your counter-CODE, I could get behind you. We have been saying for years that the tear-filled need to man-up and pew those they complain about (like CODE), so it would be hypocrisy not to support such an initiative if bounded properly against the heresy of mechanics nerfs. F I'll need your help in the Council of Uedama just like last time when I draft the Code for the Heroes of Highsec. I do not support any mechanics changes or petitions of any sort to win this war, or in general. In my view, nerfs and buffs should be extremely rare, if ever. And players should not be writing messages to CCP to fight their battles for them. They should undock and engage in glorious combat or do other player initiated and driven things. That's why I have been spending days trying to raise funds for the cause. But the Code of Uedama may take days nonstop to draft, so I haven't done it yet. Maybe this weekend, or next. I also need to sit down and think of some categories to tag my blog posts with. For instance, I am thinking of doing a section on scams and how to avoid them, so I'll need a category tag for that series. I don't want to randomly select multiple tags for every post like some blogs do, but actually separate them into meaningful sections. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Origin. Black Legion. 1990	Posted - 2015.02.27 18:25:45 - [229] - Quote Then by all means everyone should be supporting your cause. Especially carebears who's time has come to put money where mouth is. I am confident that under focussed leadership CODE. can be impacted, and GF's ring loudly throughout Uedama local. Moar content == everyone wins. You know what, I will have my stock-brocker buy me some shares this evening (as a silent contribution if you please)... I would love to see a Falcon heavy on the gallente-ECM's put into the hands of some white-knight, and serve as his trusty steed of comeuppance. Glory. F Would you like to know more?
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Origin. Black Legion. 1990	Posted - 2015.02.27 19:05:54 - [230] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Held is a pretentious heretic, but many of our calling support his cause despite finding his writings revolting. That is because he promises to bring us what none of his predecessors could, a fight. Seeing as carebears are notorious for infighting he'll never succeed, but we like to encourage him. Brother Tengu is righteous in his commentary, and I share is concerns. But if Held at least holds his members to the principles of 'do' rather than 'nerf', then he is worthy of support. There could be some great content in Uedama this spring if he gets some momentum. F Would you like to know more?
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 23175	Posted - 2015.02.28 02:41:36 - [231] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: The bottom of your pic You owe me a G15, mine's now full of coffee. "Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar Nil mortifi sine lucre.
jurgen b Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2015.02.28 02:54:05 - [232] - Quote i pref CODE and there ganking permit holder playstyle any day over war decs. that is what makes the game fun, it is not a button you click like it is on war decs, the people that play as the bringers of the CODE, make the game fun as being gankers etc and bring some RP parts into the game it pure EVE gameplay without tools. the type of gameplay that james play, or like he brings it in the game from my point of vieuw is nice tbh. no matter what the political reason behind it is, it is nicer content then war decs wil ever be. eve veers should endorce this type of real gameplay.
Bait'er De'Outlier Trans-Aerospace Industries 22	Posted - 2015.02.28 03:30:44 - [233] - Quote It's nice to see someone organizing to do something that they see as positive for Eve, even if likely very Quixotic territory. Being the opposition to something you don't see eye to eye with looks good for you. I think every carebear who disagrees with the CODE and cannot see eye to eye with CODE about their behavior should be on your shareholder list since, after all, not everyone in hi-sec can or will take a stand over something they care about. Every shareholder on your list should also join your corp and push for a perma-dec to put both their money and their pods where their mouths are (unlikely though that might be). Hopefully the cause you espouse will engender you with many hours of satisfactory emergent gameplay as you do your thing and Code does theirs. Bait for CSM
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie Brawlers Inc. 1477	Posted - 2015.03.01 10:01:50 - [234] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: The bottom of your pic You owe me a G15, mine's now full of coffee. +1 for agreeing that that pic is epic, and another +1 for appreciating good keyboards. New Player Placement Specialist and Scope Project FC. Contact me for a free consultation.
Boom Boom Longtime EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains. 1124	Posted - 2015.03.01 16:01:15 - [235] - Quote What's the news from the front lines? Concord Approved Trader
Minmatar Citizen160812 The LGBT Last Supper 751	Posted - 2015.03.01 16:37:23 - [236] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: That's why I have been spending days trying to raise funds for the cause. Everyone interested in defeating CODE should donate isk to this guy's cause.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 539	Posted - 2015.03.01 21:16:36 - [237] - Quote Seems like a typical code endorsed scam. The only hard part is figuring out which code member held is....rabe raptor perhaps?
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie Brawlers Inc. 1478	Posted - 2015.03.02 03:25:36 - [238] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: Seems like a typical code endorsed scam. The only hard part is figuring out which code member held is....rabe raptor perhaps? ... Why do you assume that that is an alt? New Player Placement Specialist and Scope Project FC. Contact me for a free consultation.
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 539	Posted - 2015.03.02 03:31:49 - [239] - Quote BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Seems like a typical code endorsed scam. The only hard part is figuring out which code member held is....rabe raptor perhaps? ... Why do you assume that that is an alt? Because I'm pretty much familiar with all the code mains, and he ain't one of em. The trollific nature of his campaign assures me that he is in fact a code alt, who is engaging in this foolishness to scam pathetic miners out of their isk, and will then a post a mocking series of blog posts on the minerbumping website. We have been here before, folks.
Tisiphone Dira New Order Logistics CODE. 142	Posted - 2015.03.02 06:15:23 - [240] - Quote Code does not endorse scamming, we are an entirely legitimate operation, wholly above board.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie Brawlers Inc. 1480	Posted - 2015.03.02 11:09:19 - [241] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Seems like a typical code endorsed scam. The only hard part is figuring out which code member held is....rabe raptor perhaps? ... Why do you assume that that is an alt? Because I'm pretty much familiar with all the code mains, and he ain't one of em. The trollific nature of his campaign assures me that he is in fact a code alt, who is engaging in this foolishness to scam pathetic miners out of their isk, and will then a post a mocking series of blog posts on the minerbumping website. We have been here before, folks. I have talked to Held on multiple occasions, and he sure as hell isn't an alt. I won't comment on the veracity of anything here, as I last talked to him in November before he disappeared for awhile, but I am aware of his other characters, and this is indeed his main. New Player Placement Specialist and Scope Project FC. Contact me for a free consultation.
Minmatar Citizen160812 The LGBT Last Supper 753	Posted - 2015.03.02 13:43:13 - [242] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Seems like a typical code endorsed scam. The only hard part is figuring out which code member held is....rabe raptor perhaps? ... Why do you assume that that is an alt? Because I'm pretty much familiar with all the code mains, and he ain't one of em. The trollific nature of his campaign assures me that he is in fact a code alt, who is engaging in this foolishness to scam pathetic miners out of their isk, and will then a post a mocking series of blog posts on the minerbumping website. We have been here before, folks. So he isn't known to you and actually trying to do something rather than just crying like you so it must be a scam? Is he stealing your imaginary thunder or something?
Lan Wang Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi 220	Posted - 2015.03.02 14:04:22 - [243] - Quote Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Seems like a typical code endorsed scam. The only hard part is figuring out which code member held is....rabe raptor perhaps? ... Why do you assume that that is an alt? Because I'm pretty much familiar with all the code mains, and he ain't one of em. The trollific nature of his campaign assures me that he is in fact a code alt, who is engaging in this foolishness to scam pathetic miners out of their isk, and will then a post a mocking series of blog posts on the minerbumping website. We have been here before, folks. So he isn't known to you and actually trying to do something rather than just crying like you so it must be a scam? Is he stealing your imaginary thunder or something? i dunno what he's actually trying to do apart from raise money, 4billion isk invested and not even got any killboard activity since 6th january EVEALON Creative --áLogo Design \| Killboard Banners \| -áWeb Design \| Website Graphics -á
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 70	Posted - 2015.03.02 14:29:31 - [244] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Seems like a typical code endorsed scam. The only hard part is figuring out which code member held is....rabe raptor perhaps? ... Why do you assume that that is an alt? Because I'm pretty much familiar with all the code mains, and he ain't one of em. The trollific nature of his campaign assures me that he is in fact a code alt, who is engaging in this foolishness to scam pathetic miners out of their isk, and will then a post a mocking series of blog posts on the minerbumping website. We have been here before, folks. So he isn't known to you and actually trying to do something rather than just crying like you so it must be a scam? Is he stealing your imaginary thunder or something? i dunno what he's actually trying to do apart from raise money, 4billion isk invested and not even got any killboard activity since 6th january I have addressed this comment/question/concern multiple times in this thread, individual chats, groups discussions, and now here, it's almost as if you have an agenda... Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Lan Wang Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi 220	Posted - 2015.03.02 14:40:00 - [245] - Quote just wanna see you shoot something :( sadface, do you have a TL;DR version of the link? EVEALON Creative --á*Logo Design \| Killboard Banners \| -áWeb Design \| Website Graphics -á
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 70	Posted - 2015.03.02 15:49:38 - [246] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: just wanna see you shoot something :( *sadface, do you have a TL;DR version of the link? Yeah it talks about shooting stuff. Please show us you have the reading competency I know you have. Please stop trolling this thread. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 961	Posted - 2015.03.02 19:55:29 - [247] - Quote Veers Belvar wrote: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Seems like a typical code endorsed scam. The only hard part is figuring out which code member held is....rabe raptor perhaps? ... Why do you assume that that is an alt? Because I'm pretty much familiar with all the code mains, and he ain't one of em. The trollific nature of his campaign assures me that he is in fact a code alt, who is engaging in this foolishness to scam pathetic miners out of their isk, and will then a post a mocking series of blog posts on the minerbumping website. We have been here before, folks. I can assure you Held is his primary character. I can also assure you he is a traitor to our cause even if we still appreciate the potential content he may be able to create for us. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Michael Ruckert Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando 282	Posted - 2015.03.03 01:00:52 - [248] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: I have decided to defeat the New Order by starting a Rebel movement that doesn't suck like all those that have come before. I would like to ask all of the kind players here in general discussion to brainstorm ideas to defeat this criminal organization. The best will be considered for implementation. It would help for those that have been wronged by CODE to share their stories here along with what they are willing to do to help the cause. Idea: Monthly Ganking Permit Target top three New Order gankers as listed on killboards. Gather intel about when they are online and where stationed. Hire top merc groups to station camp them when online. Station camp only lifted when a top three ganker pays xxx billion for Monthly Ganking Permit. Rinse and repeat as top three New Order ganker list revises. "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
Seraph IX Basarab Hades Effect Forsaken Asylum 621	Posted - 2015.03.03 01:18:12 - [249] - Quote 13 pages of this crap... Hades Effect Mercenary Services / 3rd Party Services
Zealous Miner 4	Posted - 2015.03.03 01:49:10 - [250] - Quote I fully support the New Order and James 315's vision of a better highsec. But, I also support conflict in EVE and whatever player created, emergent content will come about as a result of this new rebel insurrection. So, here's to a more violent tomorrow! I voted for Sabriz Adoudel for CSM10. You should too. www.minerbumping.com
Veers Belvar Swordmasters of New Eden 542	Posted - 2015.03.03 05:47:35 - [251] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: i dunno what he's actually trying to do apart from raise money, 4billion isk invested and not even got any killboard activity since 6th january Presumably it will involve scamming a lot of miners out of their isk and writing multiple blog posts about it on minerbumping.com Anyone remember TrueVolley?
Drez Arthie Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2015.03.03 05:52:51 - [252] - Quote Zealous Miner wrote: I fully support the New Order and James 315's vision of a better highsec. But, I also support conflict in EVE and whatever player created, emergent content will come about as a result of this new rebel insurrection. So, here's to a more violent tomorrow! I remember emergent content like a player corporation IPO and a role playing alliance designating their space as open to neutrals. Emergent does not equal violent.
Zealous Miner 9	Posted - 2015.03.03 06:15:27 - [253] - Quote Drez Arthie wrote: Emergent does not equal violent. Now, now. There's no need to be pessimistic. But, in all seriousness conflict breeds content and whatever 'interesting' content we can get out of this is welcomed by me. I voted for Sabriz Adoudel for CSM10. You should too. www.minerbumping.com
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 73	Posted - 2015.03.03 06:15:58 - [254] - Quote Michael Ruckert wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: I have decided to defeat the New Order by starting a Rebel movement that doesn't suck like all those that have come before. I would like to ask all of the kind players here in general discussion to brainstorm ideas to defeat this criminal organization. The best will be considered for implementation. It would help for those that have been wronged by CODE to share their stories here along with what they are willing to do to help the cause. Idea: Monthly Ganking Permit Target top three New Order gankers as listed on killboards. Gather intel about when they are online and where stationed. Hire top merc groups to station camp them when online. Station camp only lifted when a top three ganker pays xxx billion for Monthly Ganking Permit. Rinse and repeat as top three New Order ganker list revises. That's a cool idea. Guys this is what I'm talking about, let's come up with great ideas like this. For interested shareholders, there's an IPO thread in MD, or you can find links in my bio. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Drez Arthie Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 31	Posted - 2015.03.03 06:34:03 - [255] - Quote Zealous Miner wrote: Now, now. There's no need to be pessimistic. But, in all seriousness conflict breeds content and whatever 'interesting' content we can get out of this is welcomed by me. It couldn't be that some players who enjoy inflicting pain hide behind the banner of "emergence" could it?
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 683	Posted - 2015.03.03 07:17:03 - [256] - Quote Drez Arthie wrote: Zealous Miner wrote: Now, now. There's no need to be pessimistic. But, in all seriousness conflict breeds content and whatever 'interesting' content we can get out of this is welcomed by me. It couldn't be that some players who enjoy inflicting pain hide behind the banner of "emergence" could it? Eve is a futuristic, dystopic, spaceship game entirely built around player conflict. It entirely make sense that much emergent content is going to be based around blowing each other up. Even if you prefer your emergent content of the more collaborative variety, since any opposition of substance is provided by other players, your collaborative effort is only going to have meaning and give you satisfaction because you did it in the face of other players trying to stop you. Don't believe me? Get a bunch of your friends together on the test server and go take sovereignty in a system and build a station in null. You will find it an empty and wholly unengaged experience. Everyone is constantly "griefing" (in the non-EULA breaking sense) everyone else in this game by design - it is called everyone vs. everyone afterall - in our constant struggle for power and resources in New Eden. Eve is a competitive game so really causing "pain" and beating your opponent are two sides of the same coin. Held is trying to beat the New Order at their own game. That is the very definition of emergent content. Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10 is a good idea.
Chenguang Hucel-Ge Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate 7	Posted - 2015.03.03 08:38:19 - [257] - Quote There ARE perfect tools to absolutely ignore the threats of blaster kittens. 1)Not flying what you can't tank. 2)Flying disposable. 3)Not living at hub-to-hub pipes unless you are after chewy cookies. 4)Transporting goods via couriers with 100% collateral. With RFF, it may become as good as 100% coverage for 1-2% of value. 5)Watching local for weird spikes. 6)Not bragging about how blingy your ship is. 7)Evading risky activities in rush hours. 8)Keeping 3-4 chars in different corporations for painless wardec evasion. Have them at the ready if you got POSes, since you can't install POS if your corp is less than 7 days old. But, most importantly, keeping at least spares for every char. It may be a trouble in null/low, but in highsec, there's no excuse to not have these. Oh, and you probably deserve to die if you are fitting disposable ships manually.
Zealous Miner 10	Posted - 2015.03.03 15:41:22 - [258] - Quote Drez Arthie wrote: hide behind the banner of "emergence" Hiding from what exactly? I voted for Sabriz Adoudel for CSM10. You should too. www.minerbumping.com
Lord Jasta The Scope Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2015.03.04 04:36:16 - [259] - Quote Tengu Grib wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote: Veers Belvar wrote: Seems like a typical code endorsed scam. The only hard part is figuring out which code member held is....rabe raptor perhaps? ... Why do you assume that that is an alt? Because I'm pretty much familiar with all the code mains, and he ain't one of em. The trollific nature of his campaign assures me that he is in fact a code alt, who is engaging in this foolishness to scam pathetic miners out of their isk, and will then a post a mocking series of blog posts on the minerbumping website. We have been here before, folks. I can assure you Held is his primary character. I can also assure you he is a traitor to our cause even if we still appreciate the potential content he may be able to create for us. He is not a traitor, he has learned that he was misguided and followed a fool just as you have.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 969	Posted - 2015.03.04 04:37:39 - [260] - Quote Lord Jasta wrote: He is not a traitor, he has learned that he was misguided and followed a fool just as you have. We were friends once. But you have turned your back on the Saviour. Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 77	Posted - 2015.03.06 09:26:58 - [261] - Quote New blog post up. It has plot twists! Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Lan Wang Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi 234	Posted - 2015.03.06 12:14:39 - [262] - Quote quite a good post, knowing a few people who have came to me because they have been scammed for various out of game services. shame that people do this sort of stuff for services, oh well more business for me \o/ EVEALON Creative --áLogo Design \| Killboard Banners \| -áWeb Design \| Website Graphics -á
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec 78	Posted - 2015.03.09 07:20:03 - [263] - Quote A few blogs posts later... We have an alliance! "Heroes of Highsec Alliance" Also, shareholder funds have been moved to Caretaker Held, of the "Heroes of Highsec" corp, where shareholder funds will be kept segregated. Funds will be invested as originally stated, but instead of waiting until final victory for profit, around or about 50% of profits will get paid directly out to shareholders, with the other half going into a special fund just for fighting the New Order. This sort of structure will help keep funds separate for their intended purposes. A mechanism to allow shareholders to easily choose whether they want dividend reinvestment on or off will be coming soon. Everything is being done above board and as we settle into what will become routine processes and procedures, I will post API's and do regular shareholder reports. We are just under 5 billion isk in funds. Over the course of the next week or so, focus will be on getting the investment funds in the market and recruiting individuals and corps into the official alliance. While I have personally invested over a billion isk to make this all a reality, I have not awarded myself any shares for personal profit. I will of course need to fund PLEXes and such for running this operation, but everything will be done in the most transparent and fair way possible. We may hold 10% out as an "operating expense" fee and split the remaining 50/50 between shareholders and the endowment fund, but that is yet to be decided. Now, as far as actionable ideas for defeating the New Order, as I know you all want to hear, particularly when it involves spaceships, I was thinking of some ideas earlier and would like some feedback. 1. Would there be interest in the Heroes of Highsec funding Deathstar POSes sprinkled throughout major mining systems for the purpose of a place for Heroes to keep their boosting orcas safe? 2. Seeding Anti-ganking ships and modules in major ganking systems? Any seeding of rebel equipment would be done at a good profit so as to deter the New Order from simply buying out our supplies. 3. New Player Training corp for the purposes of getting new players up to speed and safe? Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
admiral root Red Galaxy 2474	Posted - 2015.03.09 10:46:11 - [264] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: A few blogs posts later... We have an alliance! Does this mean CODE can expect a wardec from you? No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Black Drake 15	Posted - 2015.03.09 21:54:44 - [265] - Quote Tisiphone Dira wrote: "It would help for those that have been wronged by CODE to share their stories" sniffs this one time, I was out miiiiining, and then the new order agent came, and said that that was enouuuuuugh, that I had to leave some for the other childreeeeen. I said noooo, I wasn't dooooone, but then then agent said I was, and he pushed me off the asteroiiiids, waaaaahaaahaaaa. Totes read this in Cartman's voice.
Noobshot Elongur Blitzkrieg. Get Off My Lawn 7	Posted - 2015.03.13 00:49:43 - [266] - Quote I will formerly state that I love the CODE. Especially when they flush out poorly tanked solo miners. I get to sell the victims new retrievers at marked up prices! I sold retriever #58 to some solo doofus who got himself splatted even after the CODE member spammed the local channel for a good 45 minutes. Talk about not paying attention to the situation.....
Lan Wang Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi 244	Posted - 2015.03.13 08:46:54 - [267] - Quote admiral root wrote: Held der Finsternis wrote: A few blogs posts later... We have an alliance! Does this mean CODE can expect a wardec from you? doubt it, he is too busy trading to be wardeccing his targets EVEALON Creative --áLogo Design \| Killboard Banners \| -áWeb Design \| Website Graphics -á
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec Heroes of Highsec Alliance 82	Posted - 2015.03.15 21:06:06 - [268] - Quote Blog is updated with a major development! http://www.heroesofhighsec.com/2015/03/heroes-of-highsec-joins-forces-with.html Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec Heroes of Highsec Alliance 88	Posted - 2015.03.17 18:23:40 - [269] - Quote Due to popular demand, the Heroes Code has now been released! http://www.heroesofhighsec.com/p/the-heroes-code.html Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Karla the Careless Beyond Reproach 4	Posted - 2015.03.17 22:08:31 - [270] - Quote - Heroes may, from time to time, declare war on carebear corporations that violate the terms of this agreement. It is expected that such carebear corporations either improve their ways or dissolve to join the Heroes of Highsec Alliance so as to better themselves. Carebears will be expected to bear the cost of all war-related expenses for the Heroes. Furthermore, carebears will be expected to buy some shares to GÇ£get rightGÇ¥ with the organization and show that they want to be better. Heroes will suggest the proper level of investment. Please inform me where I agreed to the agreement that is quoted from your website. Pending irrefutable evidence that I personally informed you that I have in fact agreed to this steaming pile, there is no agreement between you and I.
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec Heroes of Highsec Alliance 90	Posted - 2015.03.18 02:55:19 - [271] - Quote Karla the Careless wrote: - Heroes may, from time to time, declare war on carebear corporations that violate the terms of this agreement. It is expected that such carebear corporations either improve their ways or dissolve to join the Heroes of Highsec Alliance so as to better themselves. Carebears will be expected to bear the cost of all war-related expenses for the Heroes. Furthermore, carebears will be expected to buy some shares to GÇ£get rightGÇ¥ with the organization and show that they want to be better. Heroes will suggest the proper level of investment. Please inform me where I agreed to the agreement that is quoted from your website. Pending irrefutable evidence that I personally informed you that I have in fact agreed to this steaming pile, there is no agreement between you and I. You were invited to vote for the rebel leader. You did not show up. Please try to catch up and not pick things out of context. Thanks. I look forward to your participation in making HIghsec better. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Kalishka Ashkulf Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 105	Posted - 2015.03.18 09:18:06 - [272] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: I have decided to defeat the New Order by starting a Rebel movement that doesn't suck like all those that have come before. I would like to ask all of the kind players here in general discussion to brainstorm ideas to defeat this criminal organization. The best will be considered for implementation. It would help for those that have been wronged by CODE to share their stories here along with what they are willing to do to help the cause. Webels! Why, thank you, Thing!
admiral root Red Galaxy 2515	Posted - 2015.03.18 11:32:24 - [273] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: Karla the Careless wrote: - Heroes may, from time to time, declare war on carebear corporations that violate the terms of this agreement. It is expected that such carebear corporations either improve their ways or dissolve to join the Heroes of Highsec Alliance so as to better themselves. Carebears will be expected to bear the cost of all war-related expenses for the Heroes. Furthermore, carebears will be expected to buy some shares to GÇ£get rightGÇ¥ with the organization and show that they want to be better. Heroes will suggest the proper level of investment. Please inform me where I agreed to the agreement that is quoted from your website. Pending irrefutable evidence that I personally informed you that I have in fact agreed to this steaming pile, there is no agreement between you and I. You were invited to vote for the rebel leader. You did not show up. Please try to catch up and not pick things out of context. Thanks. I look forward to your participation in making HIghsec better. AnsLOL would like a word with you. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Shelom Severasse Burning Alder 50	Posted - 2015.03.18 11:55:38 - [274] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: I have decided to defeat the New Order by starting a Rebel movement that doesn't suck like all those that have come before. I would like to ask all of the kind players here in general discussion to brainstorm ideas to defeat this criminal organization. The best will be considered for implementation. It would help for those that have been wronged by CODE to share their stories here along with what they are willing to do to help the cause. i have a feeling that the best way to get anything done is to not blab your intentions to the forums. you need to get a solid group of guys together on your own and work your way from there.
Kaarous Aldurald Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 12167	Posted - 2015.03.18 12:17:20 - [275] - Quote admiral root wrote: AnsLOL would like a word with you. You misspelled Waaahnslo. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
roberts dragon Starship Crusaders. 8	Posted - 2015.03.18 13:33:02 - [276] - Quote with players who loose their ships to gankers build them new ships and they supply the mats and the costs would say for new players without much experience like me. I go 1 step further I will build the venture and 2 of the mining barges and some haulage ships that I have bpos for and most frigates if you been seal clubbed I lost my iterlon this way to a seal clubber so know how this feels that's why I make the offer for newer players loose you ship if I have the bpos I make you new one you supply the mats and cost I make for you. many thanks bob
admiral root Red Galaxy 2516	Posted - 2015.03.18 13:43:08 - [277] - Quote roberts dragon wrote: I go 1 step further I will build the venture and 2 of the mining barges and some haulage ships that I have bpos for and most frigates if you been seal clubbed I lost my iterlon this way to a seal clubber so know how this feels that's why I make the offer for newer players loose you ship if I have the bpos I make you new one you supply the mats and cost I make for you. That "sentence" is certainly a crime. Punishment to follow. No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff \| No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that. Sabriz for CSM
Held der Finsternis Honourable Space Men of Highsec Heroes of Highsec Alliance 90	Posted - 2015.03.18 14:07:06 - [278] - Quote updated ipo thread with some important shareholder news. tl/dr- temp loan from shareholder funds to myself for fun community event this weekend in which profits will be split with shareholders and funds paid back in full after weekend. I invite everyone to fly over to Uedama this weekend. I'll be there for at least 8 hours personally on saturday and we'll do some fun fleets. Supreme Commander of Highsec heroesofhighsec.com save Highsec from James 315, the New Order, and CODE.
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 1389	Posted - 2015.03.18 14:08:27 - [279] - Quote I kinda like the term 'seal clubber' Of course I'm thinking of something completely http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ld4pm0eMj61qcis6qo1_500.jpg It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
Tengu Grib Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE. 1005	Posted - 2015.03.18 19:27:49 - [280] - Quote roberts dragon wrote: with players who loose their ships to gankers build them new ships and they supply the mats and the costs would say for new players without much experience like me. I go 1 step further I will build the venture and 2 of the mining barges and some haulage ships that I have bpos for and most frigates if you been seal clubbed I lost my iterlon this way to a seal clubber so know how this feels that's why I make the offer for newer players loose you ship if I have the bpos I make you new one you supply the mats and cost I make for you. many thanks bob What? Sabriz for CSMX! Consider voting Tora as well.
Karla the Careless Beyond Reproach 4	Posted - 2015.03.18 21:21:04 - [281] - Quote Held der Finsternis wrote: Karla the Careless wrote: - Heroes may, from time to time, declare war on carebear corporations that violate the terms of this agreement. It is expected that such carebear corporations either improve their ways or dissolve to join the Heroes of Highsec Alliance so as to better themselves. Carebears will be expected to bear the cost of all war-related expenses for the Heroes. Furthermore, carebears will be expected to buy some shares to GÇ£get rightGÇ¥ with the organization and show that they want to be better. Heroes will suggest the proper level of investment. Please inform me where I agreed to the agreement that is quoted from your website. Pending irrefutable evidence that I personally informed you that I have in fact agreed to this steaming pile, there is no agreement between you and I. You were invited to vote for the rebel leader. You did not show up. Please try to catch up and not pick things out of context. Thanks. I look forward to your participation in making HIghsec better. Let's stick with the part about an agreement shall we? There is no agreement. You and your ilk can pack sand.
Mistress Odinessa Shooting Blues Everyday 1	Posted - 2015.04.01 16:35:31 - [282] - Quote Perhaps you can persuade all of them with a brilliant PowerPoint like Skeleton Crew and Pantsufan. That always works for these types of alliances.
Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 72	Posted - 2015.04.26 23:23:44 - [283] - Quote What ever came of this? Update please
Trifle Fart Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2015.04.26 23:44:07 - [284] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: What ever came of this? Update please Last I heard someone was going to necro this thread. Could I get an update on where we are with that? Thanks.
Saskia Laru the 57th Overlanders Brigade 27	Posted - 2015.04.26 23:48:33 - [285] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: What ever came of this? Update please Nothing. As was expected.
Zealous Miner 196	Posted - 2015.04.27 00:01:50 - [286] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: What ever came of this? The same thing that happens to all those who oppose the New Order. www.minerbumping.com

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