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Weynard
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.20 19:34:52 -
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Master Kuvakei,
it may have been years since we spoke, but I have never forgotten the days of the liberations. Flying with your children and rendering aid to those oppressed by DED and her allies are the most vivid and treasured memories of my life. Where we could, we destroyed your enemies; where we couldn't, we sang the song of the Nation. The Friends of the Nation were strong, united, and at peace with each other; bliss I have never since experienced.
Now, the glory of those days lies buried beneath the accusations and denunciations of the majority. Our enemy considers himself victorious; even as your children continue to roam the galaxy; the voices have fallen silent and the Friends are scattered.
Master, loyalty remains within New Eden. Too few capsuleers see the truth to oppose the empires, but when you call, the people will follow. The cluster is disturbed by new arrivals once more; the people question the power of the establishment. When the empires finally lose their weakened grasp on power and their brainchild, CONCORD, cannot reward your enemies any more, the blind won't bother to fight. None will be able to stop the Nation.
We await your word, until the end of time. |
ValentinaDLM
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
587
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Posted - 2015.02.20 21:32:40 -
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Touching words, that I agree with. All the master has to do is but say the word and I would give my life for him. There are many Friends of the Nation awaiting a call back to action. |
Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
69
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Posted - 2015.02.20 21:47:04 -
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Your master's staging points lie demolished. His ships obliterated.
Enjoy his last moments while they last.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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Weynard
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2015.02.20 22:03:45 -
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There is no death within the Nation; only rebirth. I would imagine you'd have learned that by now. But keep shooting, if the sheer futility of it escapes you. |
Jennifer Starfall
Repracor Industries
68
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Posted - 2015.02.20 22:14:17 -
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ValentinaDLM wrote:Touching words, that I agree with. All the master has to do is but say the word and I would give my life for him. There are many Friends of the Nation awaiting a call back to action. Valentina,
I know you've been feeling lost lately and have been thinking about the rift between you and your family. But, please, don't do this. Would you really your friends and your comrades-in-arms in Pyre Falcon? Would you throw all that away?
Jennifer Starfall
Media & Communications
Repracor Industries
The Fourth Seyllin Conference
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Weynard
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2015.02.20 22:22:32 -
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Jennifer Starfall wrote:I know you've been feeling lost lately and have been thinking about the rift between you and your family. But, please, don't do this. Would you really your friends and your comrades-in-arms in Pyre Falcon? Would you throw all that away?
Her friends and comrades would be most welcome. |
ValentinaDLM
Pyre Falcon Defence and Security
589
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Posted - 2015.02.20 22:45:30 -
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Jennifer Starfall wrote:ValentinaDLM wrote:Touching words, that I agree with. All the master has to do is but say the word and I would give my life for him. There are many Friends of the Nation awaiting a call back to action. Valentina, I know you've been feeling lost lately and have been thinking about the rift between you and your family. But, please, don't do this. Would you really your friends and your comrades-in-arms in Pyre Falcon? Would you throw all that away?
I do have a public record of engaging Caldari Navy vessels on multiple occasions when they directly threaten the assets of the Nation. I don't see a conflict with my current contract with Pyre Falcon and this history. Desiderya Is a smart woman, who knows how to get what is best for her corporation and I think she is well aware of my feelings, but hopefully sees me as more of an asset than a liability.
It is true I have been feeling a bit bad about the emotional rifts between me and people who supposedly loved me, but when I have helped the Master in the past it felt great....I would do a great deal to get that feeling back. I like to think I have many comrades who would assist me in this...
In any case, Jennifer you are a thoughtful and caring woman, I should have spent more time getting to know you when you were a coworker. |
John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
375
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Posted - 2015.02.21 07:51:03 -
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Jennifer Starfall wrote:ValentinaDLM wrote:Touching words, that I agree with. All the master has to do is but say the word and I would give my life for him. There are many Friends of the Nation awaiting a call back to action. Valentina, I know you've been feeling lost lately and have been thinking about the rift between you and your family. But, please, don't do this. Would you really your friends and your comrades-in-arms in Pyre Falcon? Would you throw all that away?
She has been a supporter of the madman for some time, this is nothing new. The same goes for several of her comrades in PYRE. These types of people cannot be reasoned with the sooner you understand this the better.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Weynard
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2015.02.21 08:21:36 -
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John Revenent wrote:She has been a supporter of the madman for some time, this is nothing new. The same goes for several of her comrades in PYRE. These types of people cannot be reasoned with the sooner you understand this the better.
Quite the opposite; if only you tried... |
Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
544
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Posted - 2015.02.21 08:52:54 -
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Weynard wrote:There is no death within the Nation; only rebirth. I would imagine you'd have learned that by now. But keep shooting, if the sheer futility of it escapes you.
There may be no death in Nation, but it strikes me as naive to believe that any faction does not have an ultimately finite supply of any resource. In war, the defeat of an opponent comes from when their rate of losses exceeds their ability to replace them by collecting the proper means - This goes for anything from metals, to fuel, even to carbon/biomass.
There is, fortunately, no such thing as an invincible opponent, just one with very good logistics. |
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Weynard
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2015.02.21 09:08:32 -
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Gwen Ikiryo wrote:There may be no death in Nation, but it strikes me as naive to believe that any faction does not have an ultimately finite supply of any resource. In war, the defeat of an opponent comes from when their rate of losses exceeds their ability to replace them by collecting the proper means - This goes for anything from metals, to fuel, even to carbon/biomass.
There is, fortunately, no such thing as an invincible opponent, just one with very good logistics.
It has now been roughly five years, no? Who is to say the Nation is even close to reaching its limit? |
Gwen Ikiryo
Alexylva Paradox Low-Class
544
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Posted - 2015.02.21 09:21:13 -
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Weynard wrote:It has now been roughly five years, no? Who is to say the Nation is even close to reaching its limit?
Nothing. I just find that sort of mysticism-centric bravado sort of irritating.
Success does not promise success, and endurance does not promise endurance; A turtle that has walked a beach for a hundred years can be crushed by falling tree in seconds from just a little bad luck. Likewise, simply because destroying a bunch of your enemies assets isn't demonstrating immediate and obvious changes doesn't mean it isn't damaging them - It is by definition - Just that they 1) Have a lot, and 2) Are putting on a brave face. |
Weynard
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2015.02.21 09:37:33 -
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Gwen Ikiryo wrote:Nothing. I just find that sort of mysticism-centric bravado sort of irritating.
Success does not promise success, and endurance does not promise endurance; A turtle that has walked a beach for a hundred years can be crushed by falling tree in seconds from just a little bad luck. Likewise, simply because destroying a bunch of your enemies assets isn't demonstrating immediate and obvious changes doesn't mean it isn't damaging them - It is by definition - Just that they 1) Have a lot, and 2) Are putting on a brave face.
I suppose times never change. We've heard all this before, and even after all this time, the sceptics' predictions and promises still turned out to be empty words. Only the Friends of the Netion expected Sansha to stand strong- and here we are, with his children roaming the galaxy yet. You underestimate the Nation today; eventually, all will join us. |
John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
378
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Posted - 2015.02.21 11:19:58 -
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Weynard wrote:You underestimate the Nation today; eventually, all will join us.
You overestimate your Master's capabilities.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Weynard
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2015.02.21 11:38:46 -
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John Revenent wrote:You overestimate your Master's capabilities.
I have witnessed the power of his children first hand- fellow capsuleers converted to True Slaves, the bliss that the Nation's citizens radiate- and the Nation's gratitude. They are things of which you know nothing, and it is only natural to fear the unknown, but rest assured that there is a place for everyone with the Nation and that even you will one day find the true way. |
John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
378
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Posted - 2015.02.21 11:50:28 -
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Weynard wrote:even you will one day find the true way.
Doubt it.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Weynard
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2015.02.21 12:07:14 -
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John Revenent wrote:Doubt it. Most the capsuleers I have witnessed falling to the side of this madman are unstable, or lack the ability to remain loyal to a lawful organization... in simple terms, criminals.
"Lawful organisation" and "criminal" are subjective terms whose intended meaning depends on ideology. Within the Nation, there are organisations considered lawful which are not CONCORD and actions which are not deemed criminal. Your argument is not only highly speculative but also misleading- yet another example of imperial denunciation attempts. |
Wendrika Hydreiga
255
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Posted - 2015.02.21 13:19:52 -
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Boo! Hiss! Stupid Sansha and your hybrid zombie abominations! |
Lyn Farel
Kitzless
902
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Posted - 2015.02.21 13:21:14 -
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Weynard wrote:John Revenent wrote:Doubt it. Most the capsuleers I have witnessed falling to the side of this madman are unstable, or lack the ability to remain loyal to a lawful organization... in simple terms, criminals. "Lawful organisation" and "criminal" are subjective terms whose intended meaning depends on ideology. Within the Nation, there are organisations considered lawful which are not CONCORD and actions which are not deemed criminal. Your argument is not only highly speculative but also misleading- yet another example of imperial denunciation attempts.
That is nonsensical if I may... Those terms are all but subjective. They clearly refer for the former to an organization that evolves in the frame of a certain law, and for the latter against or outside of that established law.
The subjective terms you are probably looking for are morality and legitimacy of the laws in question. |
Weynard
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2015.02.21 14:42:28 -
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Lyn Farel wrote:That is nonsensical if I may... Those terms are all but subjective. They clearly refer for the former to an organization that evolves in the frame of a certain law, and for the latter against or outside of that established law.
The subjective terms you are probably looking for are morality and legitimacy of the laws in question.
Whatever the case; I believe I have conveyed my meaning. |
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