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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Minmatar Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.10.09 15:27:00 -
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Humans has shown over countless millenia, that the strong in will and power are the champions of humanity.
As a senior expert on our faith, it has dawned on me, through the evidence presented and my exhausting study of our texts, that Star Fraction are a living breathing example of how Sani Sabik is the right faith.
We, as a religeon, a collection of multiple sects, have always believed in the right of the individual to enforce their will on their own life. However, as everyone knows, sometimes that means enforcing your will on others in varying manners.
Although Star Fraction fight for anarchy, we all know that anarchy never exists. A gap in power and leadership will only be filled, often by the undeserving, such as in the Amarr Empire.
Sani Sabik teaches that the most powerful individuals, the smart, the leaders, the knowledgable, deserve to be in positions of power. Not those who win it through birth right. We of power should be elevated above the rules of the non-podders; those not worthy to kiss the stars.
We, as pod pilots, are destined to rule: To rule our own lives and be above the constrains of planetbound government.
This is what Star Fraction fights and stands for. We, as pod pilots, are the future. Not some decrepid Empire or broken State. We deserve the freedom our strength and pods give us. Freedom from tyranny and a right to rule our own lives.
Listen to the heralds of the Star Fraction. Listen to the teachings of Sani Sabik.
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Myadra
Amarr Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.10.09 15:38:00 -
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*signs* I endorse this anouncment.. the will of Sani Sabik is strong.
-Countess Myadra
BL-IN site & Killboard |
The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.09 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
We, as pod pilots, are destined to rule: To rule our own lives and be above the constrains of planetbound government.
This is what Star Fraction fights and stands for. We, as pod pilots, are the future. Not some decrepid Empire or broken State. We deserve the freedom our strength and pods give us. Freedom from tyranny and a right to rule our own lives.
There are as many destinations and as many paths as there are free spirits in the cluster. We welcome the support of Blood Inquisition for the necessary task of sweeping aside the old order.
~ Law is Murder; Obedience is Suicide ~
Jericho Fraction |
Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.09 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
There are as many destinations and as many paths as there are free spirits in the cluster. We welcome the support of Blood Inquisition for the necessary task of sweeping aside the old order.
Do you also support the orbital poisoning of civilian planets?
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.09 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: The Cosmopolite on 09/10/2006 16:00:30
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Do you also support the orbital poisoning of civilian planets?
No.
No more than we support the destabilisation of a planet's atmosphere and the near annihilation of its population by the use of Titan superweapons.
No more than we support the orbital bombardment of a planet and the extermination of an entire ethnic group.
No more than we advocate the enslavement of entire peoples and the use of vile poisons, cruel mechanisms and slavering beasts to control them.
No more than we claim for ourselves a divine mandate to rule the entire cluster because we happen to be members of a particular race.
We take responsibility for those acts we have carried out. No others.
The Cosmopolite
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Kaleigh Doyle
Rho Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.10.09 16:00:00 -
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A clash of doctrines is not a disaster, it's an opportunity.
I'm completely unsurprised by this announcement.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Minmatar Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.10.09 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake Do you also support the orbital poisoning of civilian planets?
You mean the voluntary release of people from bondage to the Amarr Empire?
I'm sure they see the logic.
I think you're getting Cosmo's post the wrong way round. They are not supporting Our methods. We are supporting Theirs.
I can understand how an Empire lackey might try to spin that 180* though.
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Kehmor
Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2006.10.09 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Sani Sabik teaches that the most powerful individuals, the smart, the leaders, the knowledgable, deserve to be in positions of power.
And yet you fought against my attempt to seize power from cyshade
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Myadra
Amarr Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.10.09 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kehmor
Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Sani Sabik teaches that the most powerful individuals, the smart, the leaders, the knowledgable, deserve to be in positions of power.
And yet you fought against my attempt to seize power from cyshade
*smiles* No, thats why I'm back in charge of the sect, Although powerfull, your not meant to be in a position of power, do NOT confuse the two. Kehmor.
-Countess Myadra
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Kehmor
Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2006.10.09 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Myadra
Originally by: Kehmor
Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Sani Sabik teaches that the most powerful individuals, the smart, the leaders, the knowledgable, deserve to be in positions of power.
And yet you fought against my attempt to seize power from cyshade
*smiles* No, thats why I'm back in charge of the sect, Although powerfull, your not meant to be in a position of power, do NOT confuse the two. Kehmor.
-Countess Myadra
That completely contradicts what meb said
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Kaleigh Doyle
Rho Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.10.09 16:36:00 -
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I think she's calling you an idiot, Kehmor.
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Kehmor
Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2006.10.09 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kaleigh Doyle I think she's calling you an idiot, Kehmor.
But that's your job.
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Kaleigh Doyle
Rho Dynamics
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Posted - 2006.10.09 17:13:00 -
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Good boy.
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Wheya
Amarr Bruderschaft des Wahrhaftigen
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Posted - 2006.10.09 17:48:00 -
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In your search for new allies your ability to lick everybody's ass who is or could be against either the Amarr Empire or against the Caldari State never ceases to surprise me.
Please continue. It says a lot about those who welcome a cooperation with you.
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Svanh Mickahl
Infinite Dreams Inc Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.10.09 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite No more than we advocate the enslavement of entire peoples and the use of vile poisons, cruel mechanisms and slavering beasts to control them.
Interesting since you accept and even welcome the endorsement of various groups with ties to drug dealing and running. Drugs that enslave by way of addiction. An enslavement to the drugs and to the people supplying them. Or groups that enslave by way of extortion or threat of violence. You even have gone so far as to spend your own money as a group to provide cover for such an organization to hold a meeting as Jasmine so proudly has proclaimed. The above seems a bit off when you consider that information.
Quote: We take responsibility for those acts we have carried out. No others.
And what of those actions taken by the ones you endorse that you encourage by your perceived support, do you accept the part you play in those hurt by those perceptions? Of course you do not since you did not take part in the actual actions. YET, you have issues with the current social structures and instead of attacking those you have the real issue with you attack those that support those structures, thus not holding accountable those that did the real actions you oppose. You know there is a word for this way of thinking, hypocrite!
For limitless possibilities, you need Infinite Dreams
====================================== Svanh Mickahl Executive Director, Kimotoro Directive CEO, Infinite Dreams |
The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.09 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Svanh Mickahl
Originally by: The Cosmopolite No more than we advocate the enslavement of entire peoples and the use of vile poisons, cruel mechanisms and slavering beasts to control them.
Interesting since you accept and even welcome the endorsement of various groups with ties to drug dealing and running. Drugs that enslave by way of addiction. An enslavement to the drugs and to the people supplying them. Or groups that enslave by way of extortion or threat of violence. You even have gone so far as to spend your own money as a group to provide cover for such an organization to hold a meeting as Jasmine so proudly has proclaimed. The above seems a bit off when you consider that information.
Vitoc is a drug administered under coercion.
Many people freely choose to use recreational narcotics and I see no reason why they should be denied their pleasures. There is no contradiction here other than the one imposed by your own narrow viewpoint.
Quote: We take responsibility for those acts we have carried out. No others.
And what of those actions taken by the ones you endorse that you encourage by your perceived support, do you accept the part you play in those hurt by those perceptions? Of course you do not since you did not take part in the actual actions. YET, you have issues with the current social structures and instead of attacking those you have the real issue with you attack those that support those structures, thus not holding accountable those that did the real actions you oppose. You know there is a word for this way of thinking, hypocrite!
Quite different. You take active steps to support the State and spread the disease of statism among the capsuleer class. It is your actions that we oppose. Hence you are the ones we take issue with and you are the ones in our gunsights.
The Cosmopolite
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Ituralde
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.09 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: Ituralde on 09/10/2006 19:30:45
Originally by: Svanh Mickahl Interesting since you accept and even welcome the endorsement of various groups with ties to drug dealing and running. Drugs that enslave by way of addiction. An enslavement to the drugs and to the people supplying them. Or groups that enslave by way of extortion or threat of violence. You even have gone so far as to spend your own money as a group to provide cover for such an organization to hold a meeting as Jasmine so proudly has proclaimed. The above seems a bit off when you consider that information.
Drugs are a choice, I would perhaps look into the conditions in the society you support and see what conditions drive people to use them. Like any other good, Drugs are guided by the laws of supply and demand. There will always be those who supply narcotics, it is the duty of the individual to not become accustomed to using them.
Quote: And what of those actions taken by the ones you endorse that you encourage by your perceived support, do you accept the part you play in those hurt by those perceptions? Of course you do not since you did not take part in the actual actions. YET, you have issues with the current social structures and instead of attacking those you have the real issue with you attack those that support those structures, thus not holding accountable those that did the real actions you oppose. You know there is a word for this way of thinking, hypocrite!
There is a word for people who don't understand logic too, but alas, that might be considered unduly respectful for this board even if it is long overdue and deserved.
Its very simple. We support actions, we don't support groups. Its not a really difficult concept. That same blind support of any faction is part of what Jericho dislikes about nationalism.
For example, We don't support the Guristas, we support the Guristas' efforts to destabilize the Caldari State.
Its really that simple.
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Azador Kavian
Amarr Royal Knights of Khanid Order of the Khanid Crown
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Posted - 2006.10.09 20:05:00 -
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Edited by: Azador Kavian on 09/10/2006 20:15:23 Have you all no decency? No dignity? I suppose your mantra of Human Freedom is now similar to that of certain Minmatar rebels: "Death is better than a life of servitude and imprisonment." I will be blunt here: The previous quote is the most unintelligent and idiotic statement I have ever witnessed.
A great poet once wrote: I would rather be the lowliest serf in the world than King of all the underworld. Consider this, before you 'free' more innocents from the lives they live.
Hypocritical filth. First the Guristas pirates, but now... allying yourselves with murderous ritualists... It is shameful. Disgraceful. The weight and guilt your families bear must be great. That is assuming you haven't freed them already, too. May you spend an eternity under the wrathful vengeance of God, when the day of judgement comes.
You may call me a hypocrite for being a slaver. This would be relevent, were my slaves (Primarily Minmatar) actually human. They are simple apes, degenerates, godless and unclean heathen. I assume this is why your focus is on the Caldari, as freeing Minmatar would be utterly pointless. -------- Venerate the almighty Khanid, for without him we are nothing! |
Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.09 20:16:00 -
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Great. People who listen to cannibals have very sick minds. No wonder the Star Fraction are their friends. More propagandas, Star Fraction? --------- Cruelty is God's way of showing kindness and God is kind. Vagabond pilots want http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=405915 |
Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.09 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Great. People who listen to cannibals have very sick minds. No wonder the Star Fraction are their friends. More propagandas, Star Fraction?
wasted on a capsule pilot with a brain the size of a pea Jenny.
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Beringe
Raptus Regaliter Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.10.10 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: The Cosmopolite
Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
We, as pod pilots, are destined to rule: To rule our own lives and be above the constrains of planetbound government.
This is what Star Fraction fights and stands for. We, as pod pilots, are the future. Not some decrepid Empire or broken State. We deserve the freedom our strength and pods give us. Freedom from tyranny and a right to rule our own lives.
There are as many destinations and as many paths as there are free spirits in the cluster. We welcome the support of Blood Inquisition for the necessary task of sweeping aside the old order.
~ Law is Murder; Obedience is Suicide ~
Just don't show any weakness towards your new bedfellow. They're known to eat it up!
Mmm...tastes like chicken, right? ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |
Soratah
Amarr Ubiqua Seraph Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.10.10 04:34:00 -
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Better the Devil you know hmmm?
It seems that Star Fraction's antiestablismentarianistic policies haven't netted them enough PR. So they jump with anyone that may have beef with the natural order and current Empires.
Transhumanism is non-existential because the minority of people e.g. pod pilots are already transhumanist by design. One leaves the ground of humanity when one cannot die.
What my dear friend Cosmopolite suggests is that their way IS the way, apart from the obvious hipocrasy of telling us that we're all wrong. There is the fact that we all believe in something AND are transhumanist. Transhumanism is a path of the WAY not the WAY in entirety..
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Revan Neferis
Amarr Dark Seraph Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.10.10 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Myadra
*signs* I endorse this anouncment.. the will of Sani Sabik is strong.
-Countess Myadra
Signed. Verisum affirms its unconditional support to our Friends of Star Fraction and through Bloodveil, it endorses the statement above.
Revan Neferis Verisum
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Aodha Khan
Minmatar Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.10.10 07:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kehmor
Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Sani Sabik teaches that the most powerful individuals, the smart, the leaders, the knowledgable, deserve to be in positions of power.
And yet you fought against my attempt to seize power from cyshade
Your attempt failed. A sign of your weakness.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Minmatar Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.10.10 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Mebrithiel Ju''wien on 10/10/2006 14:08:22
Originally by: Soratah Better the Devil you know hmmm?
It seems that Star Fraction's antiestablismentarianistic policies haven't netted them enough PR. So they jump with anyone that may have beef with the natural order and current Empires.
The Empire has become a festering tumor on the rest of humanity. They lived off the work of the Matari, profit through their minions in the State, and hold their people in check through the example of the Federation. Several millenia ago, they exiled the faith of Sani Sabik and have been decaying ever since.
What has happened to their progression? You're all that's left. I'm suprised the Empire isn't paying you more for your propaganda: You're a living, breathing advertisement for the Empire.
Yet, we all know you're just a puppet. Perhaps even a dog, thriving on the scraps of the royal families.
Originally by: Soratah One leaves the ground of humanity when one cannot die.
Some people never were human, dog.
Sani Sabik shows us that the pod-pilot is proof of the continuation of humanity's development - through our trancendence, we elevate ourselves to the state of demi-gods. We control monstrous beasts of the sky through thought alone. Our will can be over ourselves or the thousands on our battleships... and eventually, the thousands on the ships we destroy.
We can create life, we can destroy it, and we a reborn time after time after time. We are the future and we hold the power.
Humanity is evolving - through us.
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Kehmor
Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2006.10.10 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Aodha Khan
Originally by: Kehmor
Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Sani Sabik teaches that the most powerful individuals, the smart, the leaders, the knowledgable, deserve to be in positions of power.
And yet you fought against my attempt to seize power from cyshade
Your attempt failed. A sign of your weakness.
Aodha considering your rather limited abilities I'm not really sure you can talk about weakness. You are one of the more inept pilots of the inquisition.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Minmatar Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.10.10 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kehmor
Originally by: Aodha Khan
Originally by: Kehmor
Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Sani Sabik teaches that the most powerful individuals, the smart, the leaders, the knowledgable, deserve to be in positions of power.
And yet you fought against my attempt to seize power from cyshade
Your attempt failed. A sign of your weakness.
Aodha considering your rather limited abilities I'm not really sure you can talk about weakness. You are one of the more inept pilots of the inquisition.
Gentlemen, enough of this here. You're both great men and as such, can continue this discussion on our public boards if needs be.
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Aodha Khan
Minmatar Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.10.10 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Kehmor
Aodha considering your rather limited abilities I'm not really sure you can talk about weakness. You are one of the more inept pilots of the inquisition.
From someone like you, I'll take that as a compliment.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
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Hitomi Ayame
Amarr Royal Knights of Khanid Order of the Khanid Crown
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Posted - 2006.10.10 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien
The Empire has become a festering tumor on the rest of humanity. They lived off the work of the Matari, profit through their minions in the State, and hold their people in check through the example of the Federation.
Wow...the Amarr really enslaved your entire race? They must have been awfully strong to do that. Now if only there was a group that idolized strength...I know there's one out there...something with an 'S'... - - -
The Royal Knights of Khanid are now recruiting!
Step up and serve God and Khanid today!
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Cyshade
Caldari Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.10.10 17:08:00 -
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Yes, moron.
Must HAVE been. Past tense. Your point is?
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