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Sith Knights Imperial Ping IT 0	Posted - 2011.12.02 07:00:00 - [1] - Quote Hey guys I have been looking at the POS fuel Blocks and found that per 1 run they produce 40 blocks for what seems to be heaps less POS fuel materials then we would use now for 40 hours. So in short 40 blocks for; 8x Coolant 4x Enriched Uranium 420x relevant racial Isotope 4x Mechanical Parts 21x Oxygen 1x Robotics 158x Heavy Water 158x Liquid Ozone Is this correct? Seems heaps cheaper to run a pos then the current system??? Cheers
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 300	Posted - 2011.12.02 07:12:00 - [2] - Quote check out the prices on heavy water and ozone. Basically people used to keep structures offline to save on fuel costs. however with the new block system in place it uses the full amount of those fuels whether or not all the modules are on and off. So price to operate is about the same.
Sith Knights Imperial Ping IT 0	Posted - 2011.12.02 07:22:00 - [3] - Quote Obsidian Hawk wrote: check out the prices on heavy water and ozone. Basically people used to keep structures offline to save on fuel costs. however with the new block system in place it uses the full amount of those fuels whether or not all the modules are on and off. So price to operate is about the same. I understand that but here is the part that you missed. Quote: The four racial fuel blocks will be built in batches of four in all stations, plus star base ammo assembly arrays (blueprints coming to a Thukker Mix station near you; build time approximately ten minutes). Each batch of four will need the following components: 8x Coolant 4x Enriched Uranium 400x relevant racial Isotope 4x Mechanical Parts 20x Oxygen 1x Robotics 150x Heavy Water 150x Liquid Ozone Towers will use 1 block/hour for small, 2 blocks/hour for medium and 4 blocks/hour for large. The CPU and Power load will no longer have any impact on your fuel needs - all towers now need the same amount of fuel, regardless of configuration. Taken from here http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3029 So Per that bill of materials you can make 40 fuel blocks which means that you don't require 1 robotics per hour. Is this interpretation correct?
Hyejin Larimer Highlands Heavy Industries 0	Posted - 2011.12.02 07:26:00 - [4] - Quote large towers eat 40 blocks, medium 20, small 10 .. yes compared to before medium and small require less robotics.
Sith Knights Imperial Ping IT 0	Posted - 2011.12.02 07:28:00 - [5] - Quote Hyejin wrote: large towers eat 40 blocks, medium 20, small 10 .. yes compared to before medium and small require less robotics. So its no longer the same as the dev blog its 10 for smalls now?
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 300	Posted - 2011.12.02 07:31:00 - [6] - Quote yeah they made and update to the blog later on to account for faction towers which are now back in game. also i cant seem to put fuel blocks in my tower.
Sith Knights Imperial Ping IT 0	Posted - 2011.12.02 07:34:00 - [7] - Quote Obsidian Hawk wrote: yeah they made and update to the blog later on to account for faction towers which are now back in game. also i cant seem to put fuel blocks in my tower. Fuel blocks wont be brought into effect for another 2 week about if you read the dev blog i linked it says how they are going to implement it.
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 478	Posted - 2011.12.02 07:52:00 - [8] - Quote right now I am hearing issues of people getting or trying to fuel thier blocks up but the POS isnt accepting them. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Sith Knights Imperial Ping IT 0	Posted - 2011.12.02 07:58:00 - [9] - Quote Nova Fox wrote: right now I am hearing issues of people getting or trying to fuel their blocks up but the POS isn't accepting them. That's because its not been changed over from the old system till 2 weeks after this last expansion
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 478	Posted - 2011.12.02 08:01:00 - [10] - Quote No we're supposed to be able to start shoving the new blocks in so when it does swap over the POS doesnt offline. Currently the POS isnt accepting the 50/50 fueling. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Obsidian Hawk RONA Corporation RONA Directorate 301	Posted - 2011.12.02 17:34:00 - [11] - Quote Nova Fox wrote: No we're supposed to be able to start shoving the new blocks in so when it does swap over the POS doesnt offline. Currently the POS isnt accepting the 50/50 fueling. This, the way i read the blog it said we can start making blocks now and put a lot in so when the change does happen it will be seamless and towers wont go offline.
Ingvar Angst Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United 627	Posted - 2011.12.02 17:46:00 - [12] - Quote Obsidian Hawk wrote: Nova Fox wrote: No we're supposed to be able to start shoving the new blocks in so when it does swap over the POS doesnt offline. Currently the POS isnt accepting the 50/50 fueling. This, the way i read the blog it said we can start making blocks now and put a lot in so when the change does happen it will be seamless and towers wont go offline. This and that. I trust CCP's aware of this and will get it corrected before the switch... right CCP? Um... CCP? Am I right? Guys? Six months in the hole... it changes a man.
Ione Dee Lucror Commerce Investment Corporation 5	Posted - 2011.12.02 18:31:00 - [13] - Quote Ingvar Angst wrote: Obsidian Hawk wrote: Nova Fox wrote: No we're supposed to be able to start shoving the new blocks in so when it does swap over the POS doesnt offline. Currently the POS isnt accepting the 50/50 fueling. This, the way i read the blog it said we can start making blocks now and put a lot in so when the change does happen it will be seamless and towers wont go offline. This and that. I trust CCP's aware of this and will get it corrected before the switch... right CCP? Um... CCP? Am I right? Guys? You should be able to put the blocks in now but there is a bug that they are fixing. http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4815&tid=1
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 483	Posted - 2011.12.02 18:37:00 - [14] - Quote Thanks for the update. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Gogela Freeport Exploration 178	Posted - 2011.12.02 18:41:00 - [15] - Quote I'm giddy as a school girl about the fuel swap. Screw this up POS operators. I took the day off to look for offline POS's. All GëíGêçGëí Ships \| GëíGêçGëí - sñÜpüÅpü«sÑçsªÖpü¬péópéñpâåpâá \| <-- Links to ShowInfo in-game FX7 - No Tax... No Rules... No Problem
Thomas Abernathy Beekeepers Anonymous 11	Posted - 2011.12.02 18:41:00 - [16] - Quote Ione Dee wrote: Ingvar Angst wrote: Obsidian Hawk wrote: Nova Fox wrote: No we're supposed to be able to start shoving the new blocks in so when it does swap over the POS doesnt offline. Currently the POS isnt accepting the 50/50 fueling. This, the way i read the blog it said we can start making blocks now and put a lot in so when the change does happen it will be seamless and towers wont go offline. This and that. I trust CCP's aware of this and will get it corrected before the switch... right CCP? Um... CCP? Am I right? Guys? You should be able to put the blocks in now but there is a bug that they are fixing. http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4815&tid=1 A BUG!!!! Not possible, everyone knows CCP is now bug-free.... "Fighting CCD since 2139"
Catlos JeminJees E.M.P. Industries Shadow of xXDEATHXx 33	Posted - 2011.12.02 18:46:00 - [17] - Quote Thomas Abernathy wrote: A BUG!!!! Not possible, everyone knows CCP is now bug-free.... Drug.... Drug Free not bug .
Dinsdale Pirannha Pirannha Corp 57	Posted - 2011.12.02 19:39:00 - [18] - Quote Trying to grasp the new POS fuel block concept. I run a reasonably tight POS and offline modules when not in use, to save POS fuel. Currently operating at about 40% of power grid, and 60% of CPU. If I understand the new mechanics properly, my operating costs are going up significantly since the new fuel block system assumes I am running at 100% grid and 100% CPU all the time. Is that accurate? Please tell me I am wrong.
Catlos JeminJees E.M.P. Industries Shadow of xXDEATHXx 33	Posted - 2011.12.02 19:41:00 - [19] - Quote Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Trying to grasp the new POS fuel block concept. I run a reasonably tight POS and offline modules when not in use, to save POS fuel. Currently operating at about 40% of power grid, and 60% of CPU. If I understand the new mechanics properly, my operating costs are going up significantly since the new fuel block system assumes I am running at 100% grid and 100% CPU all the time. Is that accurate? Please tell me I am wrong. You are Wrongfuly correct.
Gogela Freeport Exploration 178	Posted - 2011.12.02 19:45:00 - [20] - Quote Catlos JeminJees wrote: Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Trying to grasp the new POS fuel block concept. I run a reasonably tight POS and offline modules when not in use, to save POS fuel. Currently operating at about 40% of power grid, and 60% of CPU. If I understand the new mechanics properly, my operating costs are going up significantly since the new fuel block system assumes I am running at 100% grid and 100% CPU all the time. Is that accurate? Please tell me I am wrong. You are Wrongfuly correct. And correctfully wrong at the same time... Hay everyone, it turns out that this fuel block thing is going in with the summer expansion instead. Don't worry about fuel blocks for now. I have it under good authority there will not be a switchover for several months. All GëíGêçGëí Ships \| GëíGêçGëí - sñÜpüÅpü«sÑçsªÖpü¬péópéñpâåpâá \| <-- Links to ShowInfo in-game FX7 - No Tax... No Rules... No Problem
Ptraci 3 R Corporation 222	Posted - 2011.12.02 20:07:00 - [21] - Quote Gogela wrote: Don't worry about fuel blocks for now. I have it under good authority there will not be a switchover for several months. Unless of course you have a small or medium tower, in which case it makes sense to use fuel blocks ASAP.
Dinsdale Pirannha Pirannha Corp 57	Posted - 2011.12.02 20:07:00 - [22] - Quote Gogela wrote: Catlos JeminJees wrote: Dinsdale Pirannha wrote: Trying to grasp the new POS fuel block concept. I run a reasonably tight POS and offline modules when not in use, to save POS fuel. Currently operating at about 40% of power grid, and 60% of CPU. If I understand the new mechanics properly, my operating costs are going up significantly since the new fuel block system assumes I am running at 100% grid and 100% CPU all the time. Is that accurate? Please tell me I am wrong. You are Wrongfuly correct. And correctfully wrong at the same time... Hay everyone, it turns out that this fuel block thing is going in with the summer expansion instead. Don't worry about fuel blocks for now. I have it under good authority there will not be a switchover for several months. Thanks for the wonderful help there. Your wit is so sharp I cut myself reading it. And yeah, try to convince people that the fuel block system is delayed so people are unprepared so speculators take advantage of them.
Pfaeron Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2011.12.02 21:34:00 - [23] - Quote Nova Fox wrote: No we're supposed to be able to start shoving the new blocks in so when it does swap over the POS doesnt offline. Currently the POS isnt accepting the 50/50 fueling. eveclient wrote: 21:47:59 Notify You cannot place Gallente Fuel Block in this fuel bay So any idea on what the schedule for the "slopover" is really? I need to know so I can schedule our own operations. I've got some 30 towers to deal with.. and not a lot of time to do it during this holiday season. I thought I would be putting in fuel blocks (1 weeks worth) starting TODAY to handle the "slopover" whenever that occurs. But I can't put them in. With over 30 towers and 15 pos-fueler personnel to manage.. and holiday schedule to deal with.. this is fairly high on my priority list. (but not very high on my FUN list... grrr CCP) And how much of our months and months of pos-fuel should be converted to blocks? do I have time to research to 0% waste or should I start burning fuel to build blocks now now now Where's the dates? And what about pos-details API.. is it going to be updated to show fuel-blocks at the time we are able to start dropping them in preparing for the "Slopover" ? Even though it is not burning them yet. Need some sort of system to ensure all towers are partially fueled before the "Slopover" after all.
Estanoblis Kautsuo Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2011.12.03 12:25:00 - [24] - Quote What are the chances of getting some answers CCP? This is really getting tiring.

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