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kirwydd
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Posted - 2006.10.09 22:40:00 -
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I want to mine in .5 with my retriever.
My question will drones kill .5 spawns before they can pop my retriever?
If so, what drones and what skills do I need to handle them?
(i am training drones 5, and scout drone currently)
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Sord Tomte
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Posted - 2006.10.09 22:59:00 -
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I guess it might depend on what pirate rat faction spawns but I use 4 hobgoblins and 1 warrior against 0.5 system angel rats without much difficulty. I have had to repair armor only once.
I used to mine in a 0.5 guristas system and the spawns seemed tougher, but I had less drone skils then also.
When my skills improve I may replace the small armor repper with something else.
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loony thezoon
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Posted - 2006.10.09 23:00:00 -
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I really have no idea what kind of npcs are now found in a 0.5 belt - its been a couple of years since I was in such a place.
A retriever has 25m3 drone bay, which equals 5 light or 3 light & 1 medium.. You might get away with the 3/1 combo, but it would be safer to bring a friend in a frig to make absolutely sure.
Remember, in a barge you are a soft target even for npcs, so make sure you are aligned for warp to wherever you are going to warp too.
In 0.5, unless involved in an empire war, a station works best 
So get near your roid of choice, then align for your station (making sure no nearby roids are in the way), and start mining.
If it looks like the drones aren't cutting it, warp to that station. Drones are a lot cheaper than a ship.
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kirwydd
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Posted - 2006.10.09 23:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Sord Tomte
I guess it might depend on what pirate rat faction spawns but I use 4 hobgoblins and 1 warrior against 0.5 system angel rats without much difficulty. I have had to repair armor only once.
I used to mine in a 0.5 guristas system and the spawns seemed tougher, but I had less drone skils then also.
When my skills improve I may replace the small armor repper with something else.
Thanks for the reply, I was wondering what drone skills you have and and what level?
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Sord Tomte
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Posted - 2006.10.09 23:16:00 -
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I have:drones 5
drone interfacing 2
drone durability 1
drone navigation 2
scout drones 3
combat drones 3
and I have no drone modules on ship.
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Tien Shan
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Posted - 2006.10.10 01:48:00 -
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Just a word to the wise--you also have to watch out for the occasional human pirate yahoo. Just last night I was mining in a 0.5 system when a Rook and a frig warped to the belt and started firing at my hauler. By the time I realized that they were actually firing at me, the hauler went down, but the Rook and the frig were Concorded. I was able to come back with another ship and pick up all of my ore and the T2 gear left from the attacking ships. Could have been worse, I guess, but just watch out...
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kirwydd
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Posted - 2006.10.10 02:22:00 -
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0.o
They musta really wanted you dead.
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Morgat Harag
Minmatar
Gradient
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.10.10 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: Morgat Harag on 10/10/2006 11:50:25
My Retriever is armed with 5 x Warrior II. They tear any .5 sec rat apart, and they do it fast.
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Jason Hawke
Caldari
Rage of Angels
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.10 12:52:00 -
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I seen retrievers killed by player rats in .9 space... don't just worry about rats, worry about the universe.
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Berand
AWE Corporation
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.10 15:19:00 -
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Yes, you can handle .5 spawns with drones from a mining barge. However, you also need to have some drone skills.
I have drones V, drone interfacing V, and all of the drone bonus skills to at least IV, and tech 2 light drones of mine can pop .5 rats in literally seconds. You don't need to go quite to that extreme of course, my point is just to illustrate that it can definitely be done, and easily.
You'll have to test your current skill level out and just see what happens. Like someone else said, warp in to a belt, get yourself positioned around the asteroids you want, thne align* on a warpable object and get to mining. When a spawn comes in, send your drones out and see what happens. Don't take chances, as was also already said, drones are way cheaper then a ship.
* If you're not familiar with aligning, it's one of the most crucial basic skills to learn in the game. Here's the short version: Find the icon for a warpable object on the background view around your ship. Triangles for belts, squares for stations and circles for stargates, I think is how it goes. If you have one spot in particular in mind, such as a station, click on that object in your overview, then it will be highlighted in the background, thus making it easier to find. Once you see it, double-click a spot right next to the icon, so your ship starts moving at normal impulse speed toward it. Once you're fully aligned in that direction, stop your engines and sit still. Now when you need to get out, you just right-click on that object and select warp, and you'll warp out virtually instantly, since your ship is already aligned on the destination. It can save you over and over in Eve, so practice it.
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Morgat Harag
Minmatar
Gradient
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.10.11 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Hawke
I seen retrievers killed by player rats in .9 space... don't just worry about rats, worry about the universe.
Players != rats. Different rules apply.
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Hopey
Gallente
L.O.S.T. Foundation
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Posted - 2006.10.11 16:49:00 -
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i regularly rat in 0.5 with 5 x Hobgoblin II's without any issues - I can also use them very effectively against the rats in low-sec, but they're not quite as effective against pirates and i ended up losing too many T2 drones to make it a viable mining op
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Jason Hawke
Caldari
Rage of Angels
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.11 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Morgat Harag
Originally by: Jason Hawke
I seen retrievers killed by player rats in .9 space... don't just worry about rats, worry about the universe.
Players != rats. Different rules apply.
If he is worried about being destroyed or losing his load... Same rules apply. He either fights or runs. More than likely running would be best. By the time you notice the yellow brackets around the pilot's name, you are probably already jammed.
It's a dangerous world out there. Be ready for it as best you can, bring a buddy to die with you, er fight with you, and don't get mad when you lose your ship or your pod.
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Himo Amasacia
Minmatar
Elite United Corp
Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.10.11 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Berand
Triangles for belts, squares for stations and circles for stargates, I think is how it goes.
Circles are planetss. stargates are cirlces too, but they have a little indent in them. Its hard to describe in words but the difference is there.
The light drones in a retriever should be able to handle 0.5 rats. Make your ship tougher though by sticking in a plate and a small armour repper, and if you think you are dying punch the warp button. I usually have a sensor booster so I can lock rats fast. Kill missile rats ASAP. Also have the correct drones to handle the rats of the area you are in for extra damage if you want.
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Farrellus Cameron
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.12 02:35:00 -
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T2 drones will definitely help you survive a lot. I believe the Angel vs. Guristas comment before is because Angels do a lot of explosive damage, so they are slower working through shields. Might give you the extra time to kill them off before they reach armor.
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Morgat Harag
Minmatar
Gradient
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.10.12 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Hawke
If he is worried about being destroyed or losing his load... Same rules apply. He either fights or runs. More than likely running would be best. By the time you notice the yellow brackets around the pilot's name, you are probably already jammed.
Rats don't jam, at least not in the sec we are discussing. Rats != players. Different rules apply.
Originally by: Jason Hawke
It's a dangerous world out there. Be ready for it as best you can, bring a buddy to die with you, er fight with you, and don't get mad when you lose your ship or your pod.
Rats don't pod you either. Rats are dumb, players are unpredictable at best, bloodthirsty sociopaths at worst. Five light T2 drones eat up any .5 sec rat and will keep a Retriever safe and sound. Add a Small shield booster and one is as safe as one would be docked. But if one is forced to fight a player in the same conditions, the Retriever will be dust in seconds.
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Buzzmong
Gallente
Raptus Regaliter
Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.10.12 12:37:00 -
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Mining in a retriever is easy if you're just tanking npc spawns.
Ala:
2x Strip Miners
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1x Cap recharger
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1x Small Armour Rep II (or t1, or named, I just have some t2 ones spare)
1x Armour Plate (biggest you can fit after everything else is on)
and 5x light drones (pref t2, as they're better and you can normally drop the plate then as you wont be needing to tank as much)
That'll see a retriever through 0.5 mining quite easily.
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digital0verdose
Caldari
Ships Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.10.12 12:56:00 -
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Originally by: Morgat Harag
Originally by: Jason Hawke
If he is worried about being destroyed or losing his load... Same rules apply. He either fights or runs. More than likely running would be best. By the time you notice the yellow brackets around the pilot's name, you are probably already jammed.
Rats don't jam, at least not in the sec we are discussing. Rats != players. Different rules apply.
The hell they don't. I mine all the time in Otela (0.5) and I get jammed all the time.
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Morgat Harag
Minmatar
Gradient
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: digital0verdose
Originally by: Morgat Harag
Rats don't jam, at least not in the sec we are discussing. Rats != players. Different rules apply.
The hell they don't. I mine all the time in Otela (0.5) and I get jammed all the time.
Are you saying that you have met belt rats in .5, that have warp jammed you? I mine in Molden Heath systems of .5 and .6 sec and have never met such rat. Webbers, yes, but not one warp jamming rat. Or am I just hella lucky?
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digital0verdose
Caldari
Ships Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.10.13 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Morgat Harag
Originally by: digital0verdose
Originally by: Morgat Harag
Rats don't jam, at least not in the sec we are discussing. Rats != players. Different rules apply.
The hell they don't. I mine all the time in Otela (0.5) and I get jammed all the time.
Are you saying that you have met belt rats in .5, that have warp jammed you? I mine in Molden Heath systems of .5 and .6 sec and have never met such rat. Webbers, yes, but not one warp jamming rat. Or am I just hella lucky?
My bad, I was thinking lock jamming. No, I have never been warp jammed, but I like to think it's because I don't run away. 
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