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Pizi
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.10 19:35:00 -
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a kase of kidnapping
angel shipyard theft
all important missions with good rewards , unable todo in an domi
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Erotic Irony
Sturm und Drang
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Posted - 2006.10.10 20:48:00 -
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I was under the impression you could work around this so called bug by letting them aggress you and then releasing drones. Is this a new bug or...
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X ChaosX
Caldari
Panzershrek
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Posted - 2006.10.10 20:51:00 -
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Even after you are agressed by one group, releasing drones often agros the whole deadspace.
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i see your another one of those lousy pirates that cant fight fair and call yourself apvper, what a joke u are.
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Striker IV
Gallente
Brother in Arms Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.10 22:28:00 -
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drone agro bug And drones changing targets mid-fight and wandering off to somewhere else .
ugh, Without support those and other missions are almost impossible!
Signed Pweeeeeeeeeeease
Team work is essential... It gives the other team something ELSE to shoot at!
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Hennry Fromer
Gallente
radiated space gerbils
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Posted - 2006.10.10 22:34:00 -
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you just have to seperate the groups out more, 35 KM+ .
Since I just did a case of kidnapping last night in my domi I can say it is possible just takes some strategey.
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Itoz
Gallente
Shiva
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Posted - 2006.10.11 04:24:00 -
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This would be a moot point if you people would pick up you drones before warping off for a beer(ale). I can't count the number of times that I have looked out my ship and see a gang of drones spray paining the side of my ship and these drones know some very foul words...
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Nardon
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.10.11 09:14:00 -
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Edited by: Nardon on 11/10/2006 09:14:07
Originally by: Hennry Fromer
you just have to seperate the groups out more, 35 KM+ .
Since I just did a case of kidnapping last night in my domi I can say it is possible just takes some strategey.
That might work for this particular mission but it isn't a general solution(or workaround for a more appropriate word). Proof? Just go into Worlds Collide first stage. The serpentis aggro you on warp in and the guristas are over 100km away! Release your drones and watch the missile barrage that is unleashed on them. :P
Sure you could aggro the whole deadspace. But I doubt that there is a domi that could tank both fleets!
So yes, fix the "bug" please.
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Henry Fredyericus
Gallente
H.F. Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.10.11 11:35:00 -
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It is kind of interesting that there has been no word or mention from CCP side about the current, widely known drone issues (full stage aggression, drones loosing their target, etc.). Gives the idea that CCP considers those annoying drone issues as intended features or they are not aware of them.
So please, any word from CCP about the drone issues is welcome. Would calm our minds that it's taken under consideration.
Also it seems that the Tech 2 drones have better AI than the Tech 1 ones.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.10.11 11:39:00 -
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Originally by: Henry Fredyericus
It is kind of interesting that there has been no word or mention from CCP side about the current, widely known drone issues (full stage aggression, drones loosing their target, etc.). Gives the idea that CCP considers those annoying drone issues as intended features or they are not aware of them.
So please, any word from CCP about the drone issues is welcome. Would calm our minds that it's taken under consideration.
Also it seems that the Tech 2 drones have better AI than the Tech 1 ones.
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they stated somewhere missions are meant to be co op so yeah full aggro is a intended feature not a bug otheriwse it would be fixed by now
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Infinity Ziona
Privateers
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Posted - 2006.10.11 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord
Originally by: Henry Fredyericus
It is kind of interesting that there has been no word or mention from CCP side about the current, widely known drone issues (full stage aggression, drones loosing their target, etc.). Gives the idea that CCP considers those annoying drone issues as intended features or they are not aware of them.
So please, any word from CCP about the drone issues is welcome. Would calm our minds that it's taken under consideration.
Also it seems that the Tech 2 drones have better AI than the Tech 1 ones.
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they stated somewhere missions are meant to be co op so yeah full aggro is a intended feature not a bug otheriwse it would be fixed by now
BFS.
If full aggro was intended then they'd aggro on missiles launched, guns fired and warping in. And the killer to your argument - some missions they only full aggro when 'You Bring Co-Op buddies'. If no buddies or drones, they let you putter around picking them off one by one at your solo leisure.
So yeah its a bug, however, asking CCP to fix it doesnt work since its been what, 6 months since we started asking?
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2006.10.11 11:49:00 -
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give it 12 and u will get a fix otherwise just adapt
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Pizi
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.11 18:41:00 -
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please MS stop posting, you just derailing the thread
thanks
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Originally by: Hennry Fromer
you just have to seperate the groups out more, 35 KM+ .
Since I just did a case of kidnapping last night in my domi I can say it is possible just takes some strategey.
then you dont did the angel version ..
you jump in in pocket 4 into a group of 4 BS wich scramble and web you
nearest group is 20km away or so good luck gettin to 35km+ at 8 m/s
this is a long standing bug and isnt on the known issue page
please fix it CCP, I BEG THEE
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Pizi
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.14 17:42:00 -
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grml , got a angel kidnappin again, icant do that..
please CCP please
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Cat Casidy
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Posted - 2006.10.14 23:18:00 -
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totaly signed
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Salah22
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.14 23:30:00 -
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Quote:
It is kind of interesting that there has been no word or mention from CCP side about the current, widely known drone issues (full stage aggression, drones loosing their target, etc.). Gives the idea that CCP considers those annoying drone issues as intended features or they are not aware of them.
Maybe drone AI was identified as a possible cause for lag. They might have simplified the drone AI on purpose so it doens't take much server ressources.
Just a theory.
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Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.10.14 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord
they stated somewhere missions are meant to be co op so yeah full aggro is a intended feature not a bug otheriwse it would be fixed by now
They never said this.
You are a posterboy for misinformation.
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Zeaia
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Posted - 2006.10.15 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Pestillence
Originally by: Miss Overlord
they stated somewhere missions are meant to be co op so yeah full aggro is a intended feature not a bug otheriwse it would be fixed by now
They never said this.
You are a posterboy for misinformation.
Seriously, I hate people like this. They NEVER said that missions were meant to be co op, not to mention they actually DID say that they were supposed to be soloable.
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Zeaia
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Posted - 2006.10.15 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: Pestillence
Originally by: Miss Overlord
they stated somewhere missions are meant to be co op so yeah full aggro is a intended feature not a bug otheriwse it would be fixed by now
They never said this.
You are a posterboy for misinformation.
Seriously, I hate people like this. They NEVER said that missions were meant to be co op.
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Pizi
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.15 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Salah22
Quote:
It is kind of interesting that there has been no word or mention from CCP side about the current, widely known drone issues (full stage aggression, drones loosing their target, etc.). Gives the idea that CCP considers those annoying drone issues as intended features or they are not aware of them.
Maybe drone AI was identified as a possible cause for lag. They might have simplified the drone AI on purpose so it doens't take much server ressources.
Just a theory.
there is no drone AI involved..
you launch the drones and the whole stage agros you
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FawKa
Gallente
Old Farts
The Phantom Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.15 11:33:00 -
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And again, we know nothing happens.. There has never been a single drone event on the known issues page and even so, we have send several bug reports about one thing after anohter.
oh, there was one know issue, where drones flew to fast - but they still do !!!
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.15 12:16:00 -
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As a seasoned Drone Maestro, big old /signed.
Drone issues include:
-The Agro bug you just mentioned.
-Drones not staying on the target you have given them.
-Drones not engaging at all in periods of high lag.
-Drones not returning to drone bay properly.
-Drones occasionally auto-attacking friendly targets, such as gang memebers.
All of these (and more, probably) still happen as of yesterday, and it is seriouskly irritating. I wouldn't go so far as to say they make anything impossible (in terms of missions) but it certainly doesn't make life easy.
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Selthae
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.11.16 22:35:00 -
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Don't know about Case of Kidnapping, but the Shipyard theft is doable in a droneboat. I solo-ed this mission in an Ishtar about a week ago.
At warp in, i started moving away from the insta agro group with AB. As soon as the shield was gone i released 5 Hammerheads, I used those to take out webber/scrambler, and then warped the heck out.
On second warp in, you can move towards the group which initially aggroed and have them far enough away from the other spawns so that they won't react again on you releasing the drones.
Then you can aggro 2 groups one after another, by firing a shot at them.
The last 2 spawns in the first stage are extremely hard to kill in a droneboat as they are nearly impossible to seperate. Aggro, draw them away, warp out, rinse and repeat until you feel safe enough to the stragglers out.
This is one of the few missions that give a drone user a run for his money. I'm scared of doing this one but it's one of the exhiliarating missions around.
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Ilmonstre
Minmatar
TYRANTS
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Posted - 2006.11.16 22:37:00 -
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am i just happy i can fly both raven with tech II kit aswel as the domi with a nice variety of tech II drones 
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Elvarien
Caldari
The Night's Watch
THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.11.16 23:11:00 -
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as a drone loving domi pilot
/signed
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari
Ore Mongers
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.17 01:08:00 -
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Unfortunately, one old bug that's been around for ages, and never was fixed. Sometimes I wonder if it's intentional. That CCP thought the Domi was a **** fine PvP-ship, and for balance-reasons implemented this "bug".
But it doesn't only affect the domi-pilots, it affects any ship that utilizes drones. And it seems highly illogical that every NPC in the game has some great big hatred for drones. (Maybe they consider the drones traitors?).
I suggest you guys petition this. It can, surprisingly, lead to good stuff happening.
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ChuMak
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Posted - 2006.11.17 01:10:00 -
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OP QFT.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.17 01:31:00 -
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You can ofcourse find a complete list of the problems with drones here, and more specifically here.
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