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Manfred Sideous Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:05:00 - [1] It is evident that servers cannot hold up to large fleet engagments. Look at the node crashes BOB & ASCN ,MCFix & IAC and friends and now AXE & D2. Perhaps its time to change the thinking. Maybe we can all show some restraint. Instead of using the lamb theory of defense and fighting perhaps its time to shift gear and start using the lion. Smaller more potent fighting squads and skirmishes spread across multiple systems. Instead of amassing the zerglings in 1 system. Bottom line we all know the condition of the server. If you bring a massive fleet to face another the node with most probability crash. By doing so and having this information in mind beforehand is kinda lame imo. The other day I issued a public challenge to the people we were fighting that we would face them with 2 to verse our 1 odds. The reason being is they had almost 7 to 1 odds in system and it was causing node crashes. Unfortunately the enetity I challenged couldnt see the wisdom of the idea past their own needs. But basically if you have 100s of folks wanting to fight divide them up amongst different systems. Because 100s vs 100s in one system is just going to crash the node. In olden days honorable men would meet in the center of the battlefield and discuss terms. CCP im sure is working to fix the problem but its going to take time. It is in all our best interest that try to play within the peramiters of the server capability. http://www.hunters-agency.com/manfred/manfredlgray.png Please resize signature to fit under 400x120 pixels and 24,000 bytes -Eldo
Manfred Sideous Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:33:00 - [2] Originally by: Lowa Simply; the entity that feels threatened and stand to loose huge amount of isk, territory and assets will never ever agree to show up with a force that is not, in their mind, superior to the opposing forces. And why should they? For the defending party its about continued existance and evolution not conquest and the ultimate fight. Meh, perhaps not the best explanation but I'm slightly drunk and logic + words is not operating at 100% efficency. Cheers, Lowa I conceed your estimation is dead on. I guess I was just poking at the "Why bring 100 lambs when 3 lions can accomplish the same results". http://www.hunters-agency.com/manfred/manfredlgray.png Please resize signature to fit under 400x120 pixels and 24,000 bytes -Eldo
Manfred Sideous Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:46:00 - [3] The servers are FUBAR. I love combat and thats why i play the game. As im sure a very large % of the Eve community does. Was just thinking outloud on how we as a community could still enjoy our past time while not making the servers crash. I also had the idea of when a large scale battle was going to happen. Loading that system or constellation up into a Instanced based server. Players could leave and join the Instance but with a Queue. Loading the entire constellation or system up into its own server. http://www.hunters-agency.com/manfred/manfredlgray.png Please resize signature to fit under 400x120 pixels and 24,000 bytes -Eldo
Manfred Sideous Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.10 22:59:00 - [4] Originally by: maGz Edited by: maGz on 10/10/2006 22:42:54 Originally by: Manfred Sideous The other day I issued a public challenge to the people we were fighting that we would face them with 2 to verse our 1 odds. The reason being is they had almost 7 to 1 odds in system and it was causing node crashes. Unfortunately the enetity I challenged couldnt see the wisdom of the idea past their own needs. It wasn't a bad post 'til you wrote this... I see your point, but with the above sentence the post completely fails at it's purpose. We do not meet with those numbers because we want to crash the node. We meet up with these numbers because we're defending something that is rightfully ours. You cannot expect us to be all fine and dandy about you crashing into G-7, and then also expect us to start to give you a chance by lowering our numbers. You guys started this, don't start whining about node crashes. If you are so smart you should have realised that taking G-7 wouldn't be a walk in the park... EDIT. And before the dear Nez Perces comes with some old man-logic; Don't bother mate. If you want good fights, you contact someone and agree on a place to fight. You don't crash into a system, put 5 POSs in reinforced, take a station, then whine about the defenders outnumbering and consequently crashing the node (mind you, the numbers are not that big because we want to break the node. Numbers are that big because a lot of people want to defend their investment.) I certainly can respect IAC's posistion. FIX 6 months ago was up against 7 alliances. We brought everything we had to the table as IAC should. You all have heart for not turning over and letting McFix take your system without a fight. I told Seleene before we came into G-7WUF that this was goint to be fun because IAC loves to fight. Everytime in the past a FIX gang has crossed paths with a IAC gang it was a awesome clean smack-free fight. /emote Salute and Respect to IAC. Reffering directly to the MCFix IAC conflict was not my aim in this thread. I did use a exerpt from the conflict to add to the argument but as you notice I didnt mention any names. All im saying is with the current tactics that are being employed. BOB vs ASCN D2 vs AXE IAC vs MCFIX and every other large scale conflict are going to get owned by CCP servers. Personally in the conflict im involved in if my party is to have victory I hope it is because we secured it not that Node crashing tipped the scales in our favor. http://www.hunters-agency.com/manfred/manfredlgray.png Please resize signature to fit under 400x120 pixels and 24,000 bytes -Eldo
Manfred Sideous Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.10 23:24:00 - [5] Let us all drop our grudges and take the fight to the real enemy!!! Eve's residents VS Concord. We will take the motherland from the mighty Concord. Jita is primary!!! ....sorry comic relief had to be done http://www.hunters-agency.com/manfred/manfredlgray.png Please resize signature to fit under 400x120 pixels and 24,000 bytes -Eldo

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