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EveNo
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Posted - 2006.10.11 00:54:00 -
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Edited by: EveNo on 11/10/2006 00:54:27
Simple question, why isnt there a SHIP TYPE Column in the overview?  Is it just me or is this a REALLY important column that should REALLY be added to the options?
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Darksaber64x
Ecchi co.
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Posted - 2006.10.11 02:11:00 -
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Edited by: Darksaber64x on 11/10/2006 02:11:54
True. The boxes all start to look the same after a while.
I personally think that it should just show the ship's name as default, and you can turn on the players name on the overview if you wanted to.
EDIT: Err, I mean show what the ship IS, (Maller, apoc, kestrel, etc) not the player given name.
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Quin Tal
Fort Knox Inc
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Posted - 2006.10.11 02:13:00 -
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This has been discussed before, and I'm sure sometime down the road they will sneak it in with a patch hehe.
Personally, I like the ship type when I hover over, but there are tons of users who would like the ship type in overview, and I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to have :)
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Ansuru Starlancer
The Phoenix Rising
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.10.11 02:37:00 -
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Not to mention the icon column still seems to be bugged (I still get npc frigs that show up with the cruiser +, for example)
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Idara
Caldari
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.11 02:55:00 -
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Battlecruiser icons are just cruiser icons. Destroyer icons look more like Battleship icons than anything.
They need new ones.
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EveNo
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Posted - 2006.10.11 08:41:00 -
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Yep I was asking this because during a battle with MULTIPLE targets warping in it seems damn hard to call the right one if you dont have names b4 hand.
I mean the mouse over is cool and all but, with the lagg and trying to find the ship type you can handle correctly seems a bit near impossible to me, dunno its prolly just my noobnessssssss but how do ya guys do it?
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LeisureSuit Lurkie
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Posted - 2006.10.11 08:48:00 -
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Overview is pretty crap. I'd say the guy who coded it (as a school project propably) left CCP some time ago, and no one can make sense of he's code.
Only sensible solution as only few tiny little changes (such as this, making it non-thru-clickable and non-buggable) would needed to be done to improve the game way more than any Kali-improvement can... |
Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.11 08:49:00 -
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 Originally by: EveNo
Edited by: EveNo on 11/10/2006 00:56:00
Edited by: EveNo on 11/10/2006 00:54:27
Simple question, why isnt there a SHIP TYPE Column in the overview? Is it just me or is this a REALLY important column that should REALLY be added to the options?
And plz no one say thats what the Icon column is for because in the heat of battle its DAMN hard to tell the difference between some icons.
I brought this up before too. I totally agree its needed and it would make it easy to see what ships are likely to be jammer ships, what ships you probably shouldnt target because you cant hit etc. The size of the square is definently not enough.
We discussed it before, everyone agreed it was needed, and it was then moved into the black hole known as the Ideas channel. Bye bye to that idea, nice knowing you.. :)
Its not even hard. The info is already in the client since it shows up when you mouse over a ship. Its just that we might not want to mouse over every damn ship to find the most important target. This is actually important, but has been ignored this far... :/
If they want to make Eve more strategic, this is badly needed.
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EveNo
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Posted - 2006.10.11 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: EveNo
Edited by: EveNo on 11/10/2006 00:56:00
Edited by: EveNo on 11/10/2006 00:54:27
Simple question, why isnt there a SHIP TYPE Column in the overview? Is it just me or is this a REALLY important column that should REALLY be added to the options?
And plz no one say thats what the Icon column is for because in the heat of battle its DAMN hard to tell the difference between some icons.
I brought this up before too. I totally agree its needed and it would make it easy to see what ships are likely to be jammer ships, what ships you probably shouldnt target because you cant hit etc. The size of the square is definently not enough.
We discussed it before, everyone agreed it was needed, and it was then moved into the black hole known as the Ideas channel. Bye bye to that idea, nice knowing you.. :)
Its not even hard. The info is already in the client since it shows up when you mouse over a ship. Its just that we might not want to mouse over every damn ship to find the most important target. This is actually important, but has been ignored this far... :/
If they want to make Eve more strategic, this is badly needed.
Come on Devs help a gamer out 
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El Verbatim
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Posted - 2006.10.11 11:56:00 -
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Isn't there a 'Size' column (I remember that before RMR there was one).
It shows you the size of the ship and ... well... most ships (not all) have a different size. With a little practice, you could differentiate ships easily, based on the size value. Very easy to detect the Scorpions in a fleet full of battleships that way.
Unfortunatly, t2 ships have the same size as there t1 variant so it doesn't help you there.
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EveNo
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Posted - 2006.10.12 13:46:00 -
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hmm never tried using the size column to help, its better than nothing /me turns that column on.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.12 13:48:00 -
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Give us a ship type column. Is it really asking too much? Its a tiny request. I dont see any reason not to add it.
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Scrotal Support
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Posted - 2006.10.12 13:52:00 -
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Mousing over would be too easy. Maybe if there was s identifaction module or incorperated into an existing one or part of command modules.
Half the "fun/frustration" is not knowing what is what.
If you break it down into too much detail it will just be "kill all the circles" kill the triangles next, leave the Xs till last" takes the suprise factor out of it.
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EveNo
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Scrotal Support
Mousing over would be too easy. Maybe if there was s identifaction module or incorperated into an existing one or part of command modules.
Half the "fun/frustration" is not knowing what is what.
If you break it down into too much detail it will just be "kill all the circles" kill the triangles next, leave the Xs till last" takes the suprise factor out of it.
hmm if thats the case why have any colums at all? or why have a Icon column at all? having ship types is to much detail....wow? .
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Razin
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: EveNo
Simple question, why isnt there a SHIP TYPE Column in the overview? Is it just me or is this a REALLY important column that should REALLY be added to the options?
And plz no one say thats what the Icon column is for because in the heat of battle its DAMN hard to tell the difference between some icons.
I donÆt think we need a new column when we already have the ôiconö column thatÆs supposed to differentiate between different ships with different icons.
The icons need to be changed for better id of shiptype. Maybe develop and use abbreviations, like F for a frigate, BS for a battleship, etc. (donÆt use current navy nomenclature as itÆs needlessly confusing if adapted to EVE).
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Razin
The icons need to be changed for better id of shiptype. Maybe develop and use abbreviations, like F for a frigate, BS for a battleship, etc. (donÆt use current navy nomenclature as itÆs needlessly confusing if adapted to EVE).
Yes, everything except having a ship type column, right? :)
Every column is configurable to display or not, so what harm would it do to put it in as a option? You guys can use your different size square if you want.
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Razin
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Razin
The icons need to be changed for better id of shiptype. Maybe develop and use abbreviations, like F for a frigate, BS for a battleship, etc. (donÆt use current navy nomenclature as itÆs needlessly confusing if adapted to EVE).
Yes, everything except having a ship type column, right? :)
Every column is configurable to display or not, so what harm would it do to put it in as a option? You guys can use your different size square if you want.
No harm as a temporary solution. The problem with the overview is that it already takes up too much screen real estate, and adding another column with useful information would make the situation needlessly worse when the same information could be added to an existing column that contains already mandatory information (like friend-foe states, etc).
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Luke Pubcrawler
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Posted - 2006.10.12 15:01:00 -
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Screen space would not be a problem. Just reverse the current situation. Display ship class and give player name id you hover over it.
I dont care who is flying it, I want to know asap if it is a Scythe or a vagabond
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.12 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Luke Pubcrawler
Screen space would not be a problem. Just reverse the current situation. Display ship class and give player name id you hover over it.
I dont care who is flying it, I want to know asap if it is a Scythe or a vagabond
Same here. And everybody - its a optional column to show or not. So screen space doesnt matter. In fact you can skip pilot name if you like and just use ship class.
This might lead to attacking Farjung by accident though. 
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Uglyone
Hunter Killers
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Posted - 2006.10.12 15:06:00 -
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id like to have a option of removing neutral ships from the overview.
that has to be a long time wish for all of eve that ever has been involved in a empire war.
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