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Hilen Tukoss
Eifyr and Co.
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.02.26 15:59:07 -
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TRANSPONDER IDENTITY UNKNOWN >> BROADCAST INITIATEGǪ
TRAFFIC SCRUBBING DISABLED,
SCRUBBING GAIN GÇô 0.00% NOMINALGǪ
PACKET LOSS GÇô 0.0%
>> 1ms
>> --
>> 0.8ms
>> --
>> 1ms
>> 0.2ms
>> +301445.6846 >> -648744.5468 >> +968742.4856
>> LOCKED IN
>> ROUTER CONTACT ESTABLISHED GÇô RECIPIENT TRANSPONDER ID HASH 30003413-60005722
>> LAYER 66230145255685FFA
>> COMMENCING BROADCASTGǪ
T --- - ----------------age is ----- - --- -- oadcast -- -- ll pos --- -- -- ---e fr -- - - - -encies. - ------ - - - to sec - --- - a --- -- - -eeper ves - -- - for ----- e no id ----- ----- - -my lo- - - - -----on, or the -- - - -- -. I have -- ----dea how long - -- --- to tra- - - --it, IGÇÖ -- - --n - --o- - e -- - - - - of the -- - - - - - -ity of th - ----- - - - --ts e ---- - - -- - e r ------an- ----- --.
To who- - -- - - ver rec -- - - - - - th -- -- s c- -- -- -ca- - - -- -n, I -- --- -ffer a w ----ing to t- - - -- -e c -- - - -ter. Sle -- - -- -ac -- - -- ty -- - - incre -- - - -e exp ------tia -- ---- --- - was br- - - -ght he- --- e. I ha -- -lost - - - - w these dr-- - -- s are op- -- --g, and h - -- - witne----for---- ife th----- bo----- th biol-----c-a-lGÇöan---- bi----- - - - ch- - --cal in na -- - -e sin -- --e I wa- -- -s br- --- - her -- - -e. I -- -- of the int- - -- ons of -- -- - -e o -- -- -ce cal -- - - -sle - - - -rs, but I d - -- kn- -- now t - - - -t wi - ---out a do- ---t, the - - -- no lon -- - - s - -- -ping.
I int - -- --- - ---- - - - -de - - - -- -gh-- - - -- - - -ible, but -- - - a- - - - to - -- -- - h - - -- k the v---- - - - - - - CISC tra- --- - -der b - -- -e --- -, I -- - it -- - -- as- - -- - -gat-- --. Any unid - - -- -ied sle- - - - - er ves -- - - - th s ar -- - -- -- -S- - -- -e On- -- - m- -- - - -be at -- - - -- t GÇô a -ed. I have - - - -quip- - - - -t -- -- - - EVA, --- -- ll - - - - be cat - - - -- hic.
Pl -- - - -se - - - -- re -- one - - - hos -- -- - - - ac- -- - - ------ - - - ite One -- - - - - wee --- - - ks. I --- - - - of -- -- ETA, -- - - ny sle--- --- -r-th essel ent--- -- -g Sit- -- -O -- - -ust --- - -be estro --- -- -. Rep - -- - - t, mu - - -- -- E EST -- --- D.
I -- --- --g- - -- -gh ----
>> CONNECTION TERMINATED <<
XXXX-XXX- //ROUTER TOKEN EXPIRY GÇô XXX//XX/XX GÇô UNKNOWN
>> TRANSPONDER ID HASH UNAVAILABLE / LAYER CORRPUTED/FF DISCONNECT <<
>> ERROR CODE UNAVAILABLE <<
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Anslo
Scope Works
Overload Everything
30894
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:07:47 -
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Of course I have been known to be wrong at times.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Foley Aberas Jones
Huogikku Corporation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
118
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:11:58 -
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Hilen! Buddy! Been to long since we heard from you.....How is your wife? Kids doing alright? |
Cap'n Schmitty
Revenant Tactical
9
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:13:59 -
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I'll leave it to others to decipher the main body as I'm rather busy, but I will point out that 30003413 is the ID number for the Eram system, and 60005722 is a station therein, specifically Eram V - Moon 2 - Eifyr and Co. Biotech Production.
Good luck.
@CaptainCrutches
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Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6726
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:23:30 -
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Well, hello there.
Translation in progress.
Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs.
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Thomas Molijnr
Scope Works
Overload Everything
2
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:25:08 -
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sleepers pls go back to sleep |
Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
74
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:29:35 -
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A'J has been alerted. We are decrypting this as well.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
143
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:31:35 -
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I eagerly look forward to hearing proposed contents of this message.
Author, EVE Travel
Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide
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Cyrillian Voth
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
7
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:36:14 -
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Hm. Perhaps we should consider organising a standing fleet to keep Circadian Seekers and, er, Drifter Battleships away from Site One? |
Naava Edios
Occult National Security
Phoenix Naval Systems
21
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:54:54 -
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Cyrillian Voth wrote:Suggested reading of final sentence:
"Any sleeper vessel entering Site One must be destroyed. Repeat, must BE DESTROYED."
Hm. Perhaps we should consider organising a standing fleet to destroy any Circadian Seekers or, er, Drifter Battleships that approach Site One?
Hmmm... Intresting... |
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Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
74
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:55:07 -
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Cyrillian Voth wrote:Suggested reading of final sentence:
"Any sleeper vessel entering Site One must be destroyed. Repeat, must BE DESTROYED."
Hm. Perhaps we should consider organising a standing fleet to destroy any Circadian Seekers or, er, Drifter Battleships that approach Site One?
No, simply no. The whole part is missing.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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Obil Que
Star Explorers
Reckoning Star Alliance
205
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Posted - 2015.02.26 16:56:56 -
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Cyrillian Voth wrote:Suggested reading of final sentence:
"Any sleeper vessel entering Site One must be destroyed. Repeat, must BE DESTROYED."
Hm. Perhaps we should consider organising a standing fleet to destroy any Circadian Seekers or, er, Drifter Battleships that approach Site One?
Possibly the opposite. Earlier he states possibly: "I have managed to secure a sleeper vessel for escape" and in between the two warning he appears to make claims of equipping the vessel for EVA.
He may be warning us NOT to destroy it as it is his escape |
Soldarius
Kosher Nostra
The 99 Percent
1132
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:11:01 -
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"60005722""2497""15""30003413""20000497""10000042""40216479""289638604800""19502653440""-322599690240""27681""Eram V - Moon 2 - Eifyr and Co. Biotech Production""0.775374"
60005722 is the Eifyr and Co station located at planet 5, moon 2 in Eram.
30003413 is ofc Eram.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Obil Que
Star Explorers
Reckoning Star Alliance
205
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:13:58 -
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Mark726 wrote:I eagerly look forward to hearing proposed contents of this message.
I think I have done as much as I can. Hope this helps others working on a translation:
This message is being broadcast on all possible frequencies. I have managed to secure a sleeper vessel for escape no idea of my location, or the -- - - -- -. I have no idea how long it will take to transit, IGÇÖ -- - --n - --o- - e -- - - - - of the -- - - - - - -ity of th - ----- - - - --ts e ---- - - -- - e r ------an- ----- --.
To whomever receives this communication, I must offer a warning to the [cluster]. Sleeper activity has increased exponentially since I was brought here. I have lost time while these drugs are operating, and have witnesed [a form of] life that is both biological and biochemical in nature since I was brought here. I -- -- of the intentions of the once called sleepers, but I do know now that without a doubt, they are no longer sleeping.
I int ----de - - - -- might be possible, but unable to hack the vessels CISC transponder [because] --- -, I -- - it -- - -- as- ----gate. Any unidentified sleeper vessels - th s arrive at Site One must [not?] be attacked. I have equipped it -- -- - - EVA, --- -- ll - - - - be catostrophic.
Please - - - -- re -- one - - - hos -- -- - - - ac- -- - - ------ - - Site One -- - - - - weeks. I --- - - - of my ETA, any sleeper -r-th vessel entering Site One must [not?] be destroyed. Repeat, must [not?] BE DESTROYED.
I -- --- --g- - -- -gh ----
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Cyrillian Voth
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
7
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:20:54 -
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Obil Que wrote:Possibly the opposite. Earlier he states possibly: "I have managed to secure a sleeper vessel for escape" and in between the two warning he appears to make claims of equipping the vessel for EVA.
He may be warning us NOT to destroy it as it is his escape
A good point. How disconcertingly ambiguous. |
Jukko Riis
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
78
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:23:18 -
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This si what we have so far:
"This is ----------------age is ----- - --- broadcasting over --all possible frequencies. - ------ - - - to secure - --- - a --- -- -Sleeper vessel -- - for ----- e no idea----- ----- - -my location, or the -- - - -- -. I have no ---idea how long I'll be able to transmit, IGÇÖm-- - --in - --or- - near -- - - - - of the -- - - - vicinity of th - ----- - - - --ts e ---- - - -- - e r ------an- ----- --.
To whomever receives - - - - this communication, I -- --- offer a warning to t- - - -- -e c -- - - -ter. Sleeper- -- -activity -- has increased-- - - -exponentially-- ---- --- - was brought here--- e. I have -- -lost - - - - w these drones are operating, and h - -- - witness----new form of life they are---- both biologicalGÇöand---- biochemical in nature since I was brought here. I -- -- of the intentions of these once called- - -sleepers, but I do not know -- now t - - - -t wi - ---out a do- ---t, they are - - -- no longer -- - - sleeping.
I int - -- --- - ---- - - - -de - - - -- -gh-- - - -- - - -ible, but -- - - a- - - - to - -- -- - h - - -- k the v---- - - - - - - CISC tra- --- - -der b - -- -e --- -, I -- - it -- - -- as- - -- - -gat-- --. Any unid - - -- -ied sle- - - - - er ves -- - - - th s ar -- - -- -- -S- - -- -e On- -- - m- -- - - -be at -- - - -- t GÇô a -ed. I have - - - -quip- - - - -t -- -- - - EVA, --- -- ll - - - - be cat - - - -- hic.
Please - - - -- re -- one - - - hos -- -- - - - ac- -- - - ------ - - - ite One -- - - - - wee --- - - ks. I --- - - - of -- -- ETA, -- - - any sleeper-the vessel entering Site- -- -O -- - -must be destroyed-- -- -. Repeat, must BE DESTROYED.
I -- --- --g- - -- -gh ----
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Burning Skies
Apocalypse Now.
17
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:23:25 -
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My immediate suggestion is to secure Site One with haste. Document any suspicious activity or vessels that approach. Engagement is not recommended unless there is hostile activity.
If this is the true Hilen Tukoss, priority should be to identify the vessel he is on and to ensure his safety should he reach the vicinity. |
Jukko Riis
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
78
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:35:37 -
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Where is Site One?
Eram?
Enoute.
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
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Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
435
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:38:21 -
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Obil Que wrote:To whomever receives this communication, I must offer a warning to the [cluster]. Sleeper activity has increased exponentially since I was brought here. I have lost time while these drugs are operating, and have witnesed [a form of] life that is both biological and biochemical in nature since I was brought here. I -- -- of the intentions of the once called sleepers, but I do know now that without a doubt, they are no longer sleeping.
It is possible the new "biological and biochemical in nature" form of life he alludes to are the Drifters.
From the content of the message, the conclusion that he observed Drifters and Sleepers together seems well supported. |
Frenjo Borkstar
Lost Valkyries
Absolute Darkness
39
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:43:25 -
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Cyrillian Voth wrote:Suggested reading of final sentence:
"Any sleeper vessel entering Site One must be destroyed. Repeat, must BE DESTROYED."
Hm. Perhaps we should consider organising a standing fleet to destroy any Circadian Seekers or, er, Drifter Battleships that approach Site One?
We are not sure whether it says 'MUST BE DESTROYED' or 'MUST NOT BE DESTROYED'.
Do not get trigger happy, ladies and gentlemen, and we're trying to figure this stuff out.
- Dr. B.
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Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
435
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Posted - 2015.02.26 17:49:18 -
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What do we think about the title of the message? Could provide appropriate context for interpreting the rest of it.
"WA-RN- SITE ONE"
Or perhaps:
"WA-TCH- SITE ONE"
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Ypsilas Suonen
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.02.26 18:05:14 -
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Obil Que wrote:...and have witnesed [a form of] life that is both biological and biochemical in nature...
Suggest: biomechanical. |
Jukko Riis
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
79
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Posted - 2015.02.26 18:43:55 -
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Ypsilas Suonen wrote:Obil Que wrote:...and have witnesed [a form of] life that is both biological and biochemical in nature... Suggest: biomechanical.
Confirmed.
I'm doing a sweep of a sweep of Eram, but except for "Doctor Borkstar," I'm not finding anything.
Not yet.
Black Rise Colonial Exploration
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
941
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Posted - 2015.02.26 18:53:28 -
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Jukko Riis wrote:Ypsilas Suonen wrote:Obil Que wrote:...and have witnesed [a form of] life that is both biological and biochemical in nature... Suggest: biomechanical. Confirmed. I'm doing a sweep of a sweep of Eram, but except for "Doctor Borkstar," I'm not finding anything. Not yet.
Better keep scanning the Doctor....just in case
Don't get lost alone
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Rhavas
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
403
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Posted - 2015.02.26 19:11:43 -
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Remember: Eram 5-2 was AJ's home before Site One was built.
Someone please test the acceleration gate.
Author of Interstellar Privateer
Shattered Planets, Wormholes and Game Commentary
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Obil Que
Star Explorers
Reckoning Star Alliance
207
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Posted - 2015.02.26 19:17:41 -
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Rhavas wrote:Remember: Eram 5-2 was AJ's home before Site One was built.
Someone please test the acceleration gate.
I have not visited Site One. If there is an acceleration gate, that might be the translation of this portion:
ac- -- - - ------ - - - ite One
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Cap'n Schmitty
Revenant Tactical
10
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Posted - 2015.02.26 19:18:08 -
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The gate still registers on my sensors as a Large Collidable Object called "Under Construction" and approaching it triggers a message that it's closed for public use.
@CaptainCrutches
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Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
74
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Posted - 2015.02.26 19:29:43 -
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Rhavas wrote:Remember: Eram 5-2 was AJ's home before Site One was built.
Someone please test the acceleration gate.
It doesn't work.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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Anslo
Scope Works
Overload Everything
30895
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Posted - 2015.02.26 19:38:03 -
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Huh. Guess that's why they wanted those Jovian bits.
Woops.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Naava Edios
Occult National Security
Phoenix Naval Systems
22
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Posted - 2015.02.26 19:40:25 -
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Anslo wrote:Huh. Guess that's why they wanted those Jovian bits.
Woops.
Safe to say, Mistakes have been made... |
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Anslo
Scope Works
Overload Everything
30895
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Posted - 2015.02.26 19:42:06 -
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Naava Edios wrote:Anslo wrote:Huh. Guess that's why they wanted those Jovian bits.
Woops. Safe to say, Mistakes have been made...
D'oh well.
[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
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Mark726
Project Compass Holdings
144
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Posted - 2015.02.26 19:44:18 -
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Is the collection bin where the Jovian Parts were deposited still in Site One?
Author, EVE Travel
Author, EVE Lore Survival Guide
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Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
74
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Posted - 2015.02.26 19:48:05 -
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Mark726 wrote:Is the collection bin where the Jovian Parts were deposited still in Site One?
Yes, it is still there.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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Soldarius
Kosher Nostra
The 99 Percent
1134
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Posted - 2015.02.26 20:01:58 -
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I think biochemical should be biomechanical. That is how I read it at first (though I do not argue that ti could be read that way), and would fit the Drifters and/or Sleepers better imo.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Ypsilas Suonen
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.02.26 20:29:33 -
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Jukko Riis wrote:I'm doing a sweep of a sweep of Eram, but except for "Doctor Borkstar," I'm not finding anything.
If, given the authenticity of the transmission:
Obil Que wrote:Please - - - -- re -- one - - - hos -- -- - - - ac- -- - - ------ - - Site One -- - - - - weeks. I --- - - - of my ETA, any sleeper -r-th vessel entering Site One...
...indicates capability and intent to pilot a Sleeper vessel in the coming weeks, and if:
Obil Que wrote:...unable to hack the vessels CISC transponder [because] --- -, I -- - it -- - -- as- ----gate.
...indicates that the CONCORD Identification Serial Code of any Sleeper vessel piloted by Hilen Tukoss will only designate said vessel with standard Sleeper nomenclature, then:
Obil Que wrote:...Any unidentified sleeper vessels - th s arrive at Site One must [not?] be attacked. I have equipped it -- -- - - EVA, --- -- ll - - - - be catostrophic.
...suggests that both:
- A) any Sleeper vessel that is fired upon while attempting to reach Site One is potentially piloted by Tukoss, and
- B) any risk posed in allowing actual Sleepers to access Site One is deemed acceptable to Tukoss himself
Contingent upon the accurate decryption if the original transmission, the cascading interplay of variables, not the least of which is the authenticity of the transmission itself, lends itself to deep speculation. A fascinating exercise. |
Jaret Victorian
Crystalis Foundation
74
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Posted - 2015.02.26 20:33:03 -
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I should point out here that it was noted by members of Arek'Jaalan that C-Seekers no longer warp to S1. For 5 days now, approximately.
When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
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Aria Jenneth
Perkone
Caldari State
232
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Posted - 2015.02.26 20:38:03 -
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Ypsilas Suonen wrote:
- A) any Sleeper vessel that is fired upon while attempting to reach Site One is potentially piloted by Tukoss, and
- B) any risk posed in allowing actual Sleepers to access Site One is deemed acceptable to Tukoss himself
Contingent upon the accurate decryption if the original transmission, the cascading interplay of variables, not the least of which is the authenticity of the transmission itself, lends itself to deep speculation. A fascinating exercise.
We're looking at a possibly tragic misunderstanding, either way.
If he's coming, maybe he'll have a month to paint, "It's me! Don't shoot!" on the hull in large-enough letters.
... assuming he's found a large cache of fullerene-friendly paint. |
Eran Mintor
Furtherance.
818
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Posted - 2015.02.26 20:41:35 -
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If history truly repeats itself and this goes anything like the first request we received from "Tukoss" then I see this ending in nothing but more misery.
Here's hoping for some sense in people this time.
-Eran |
Rinai Vero
Moira.
Villore Accords
435
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Posted - 2015.02.26 21:02:31 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:If history truly repeats itself and this goes anything like the first request we received from "Tukoss" then I see this ending in nothing but more misery.
Here's hoping for some sense in people this time.
-Eran
That's another aspect at play here: How do we know this is the real Tukoss and not another imposter? How do we know any of these messages came from the "real" Tukoss? |
Aria Jenneth
Perkone
Caldari State
233
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Posted - 2015.02.26 21:27:11 -
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Rinai Vero wrote:That's another aspect at play here: How do we know this is the real Tukoss and not another imposter? How do we know any of these messages came from the "real" Tukoss?
We don't.
Even if we recover the physical man, we may never know whether it is the "real" Tukoss we have.
Then again, we might expect an impostor to be able to provide clearer directions. The question in that scenario would probably be not, "What is he trying to say?" but, "Should we listen?" |
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Yoshitaka Moromuo
Burning Skies
Apocalypse Now.
18
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Posted - 2015.02.26 21:46:40 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Rinai Vero wrote:That's another aspect at play here: How do we know this is the real Tukoss and not another imposter? How do we know any of these messages came from the "real" Tukoss? We don't. Even if we recover the physical man, we may never know whether it is the "real" Tukoss we have. Then again, we might expect an impostor to be able to provide clearer directions. The question in that scenario would probably be not, "What is he trying to say?" but, "Should we listen?"
This echoes back to securing Site One and ensuring that any Sleeper vessel is observed carefully. Listen by all means. Trust, but be vigilant. |
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
Sani-Sabik
737
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Posted - 2015.02.26 21:47:19 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Rinai Vero wrote:That's another aspect at play here: How do we know this is the real Tukoss and not another imposter? How do we know any of these messages came from the "real" Tukoss? We don't. Even if we recover the physical man, we may never know whether it is the "real" Tukoss we have. Then again, we might expect an impostor to be able to provide clearer directions. The question in that scenario would probably be not, "What is he trying to say?" but, "Should we listen?"
Actually
The format of this message, is the same as the message posted by one of the entities claiming to be Hilen Tukoss- as seen here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5202131#post5202131
The other entitiy claiming to be Hilen Tukoss, had a different format of message, as can be seen here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5148219#post5148219
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5176721#post5176721
So, it is, or looks like it is, the same entity as the one that warned that Site One had been 'hacked'.
And not the entity that was asking for body parts.
Unless it's all a disguise.
So, there are several possibilities
1. It's the same Hilen Tukoss that warned that Site One had been hacked, and this entity might be the real Tukoss.
2. It's not the real Tukoss, and is one of the impostors, with an agenda as yet unknown.
Doctor Valerie Valate, archaeologist. Not the other Doctor Valerie Valate.
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Aria Jenneth
Perkone
Caldari State
234
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Posted - 2015.02.26 22:19:55 -
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I ... did write with those in mind, Ms. Valate.
Quote:Unless it's all a disguise.
A double-blind, yes. Two fake Tukosses.
But, if it were, I'd have expected the recent messages to be clearer.
... Unless paralyzing confusion is the whole point. |
Malcolm Faust
Soldiers of Cthulhu
14
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Posted - 2015.02.27 01:29:23 -
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According to various deciphers, it seems Tukoss is asking us not to shoot him. He's on his way to Eram and does not know his ETA. Kinda going to be difficult, but from what I've heard, the sleepers don't attack unless provoked, i.e. approached.
Best way to know is, I suspect Tukoss will be in a sleeper ship that won't attack. |
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
43
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Posted - 2015.02.27 01:34:12 -
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Malcolm Faust wrote:According to various deciphers, it seems Tukoss is asking us not to shoot him. He's on his way to Eram and does not know his ETA. Kinda going to be difficult, but from what I've heard, the sleepers don't attack unless provoked, i.e. approached.
Best way to know is, I suspect Tukoss will be in a sleeper ship that won't attack.
I believe this is the most rational explanation.
Otherwise, if he really wants to destroy sleeper vessels, better look, what is exactly important in this Site One, and remove that important thing, relocate or destroy, so potential sleepers won't be able to access it.
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Shtu Lix
Gea'Vii Enterprises
5
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Posted - 2015.02.27 09:21:33 -
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Hilen Tukoss wrote:
>> +301445.6846 >> -648744.5468 >> +968742.4856
Maybe these are the transmission point x, y, z coordinates? |
Eran Mintor
Furtherance.
819
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Posted - 2015.02.27 11:03:53 -
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Keep in mind, the Drifters have full access to these forums and likely deciphered the message well before we even started, assuming this message is from Tukoss and not them/someone else.
-Eran |
Anslo
Scope Works
Overload Everything
30911
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Posted - 2015.02.27 12:25:00 -
[48] - Quote
Do you have evidence to back the claim?
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Eran Mintor
Furtherance.
821
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Posted - 2015.02.27 12:30:03 -
[49] - Quote
The claim they have access to these forums?
-Eran |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3170
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Posted - 2015.02.28 14:29:47 -
[50] - Quote
At the moment, it appears that the seekers are no longer visiting Site One. Thus, any sleeper ship that does visit it could well be the one with Tukoss in it.
I agree with the idea of not shooting such a ship. But I doubt all will. If his ship does pop up, someone will almost surely shoot it, just for sport. Given that Site One is in high sec, it will be very difficult to protect Tukoss's ship. Even remote repair may not work. Someone tried RR on a seeker, and interference prevented it from functioning.
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Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
Heiian Conglomerate
239
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Posted - 2015.02.28 14:37:27 -
[51] - Quote
Eran Mintor wrote:The claim they have access to these forums?
-Eran
Edit: Rather than use these forums as a conversational go-between, I'll just say these are a public forum that most anyone has access to, regardless of if you're a capsuleer or not.
Besides that, there are certain theories that suggest the Drifters were the ones who posed as Tukoss initially and used his credibility to gain a body. While none of those theories are proven, the original point that anyone has access to these forums stands. Just try to access it outside of your neo-com.
Not to mention the kinds of people they let into the Capsuleer program these days. I'd be surprised if someone didn't try to sell the Drifters these posts yet. |
Henry Montclaire
Ood Central
The Fat Stupid Ugly People
156
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Posted - 2015.02.28 22:38:27 -
[52] - Quote
Recommendation: We should find all the nearest sleeper-generated wormholes and set up surveillance systems there. If someone is headed to Eram in a sleeper vessel he is likely to come through one of their established wormholes.
The system Lirerim for example is only two jumps from Eram and contains an unidentified stable wormhole. I would have set up a monitoring buoy there, but two drifter battleships came through the wormhole as I approached and I figured it was best to not decloak. |
Shtu Lix
Gea'Vii Enterprises
5
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Posted - 2015.03.01 10:00:03 -
[53] - Quote
It seems like mr. Hilen Tukoss is taking his time. Probably visiting some family and friends before going to Site One. But to be honest I don't think that it was the real Hilen Tukoss the one who sent the message. I think it was sent by some sleepers learning the fine art of trolling. |
Eran Mintor
Furtherance.
830
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Posted - 2015.03.01 11:08:24 -
[54] - Quote
I think the people in play have a lot better things to do than "troll" other capsuleers.
Those better things being destroying or manipulating capsuleers for their own personal gain; not sure which it is yet--perhaps both.
-Eran |
Iakim Akrelthor
Skipper Logistics
0
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Posted - 2015.03.01 21:16:18 -
[55] - Quote
Henry Montclaire wrote:Recommendation: We should find all the nearest sleeper-generated wormholes and set up surveillance systems there. If someone is headed to Eram in a sleeper vessel he is likely to come through one of their established wormholes.
The system Lirerim for example is only two jumps from Eram and contains an unidentified stable wormhole. I would have set up a monitoring buoy there, but two drifter battleships came through the wormhole as I approached and I figured it was best to not decloak.
The unidentified wormhole has dissappeared.
If Dr. Tukoss is escaping from the so-called Drifters using one of those wormholes, maybe a coordinated effort to clear any of their ships from those same wormholes would be a good idea.
I've heard they take quite a lot of firepower and keeping a safe distance from them to beat.
I. Akrelthor. |
EdXell
EdXell's Exploration and Tax Evasion Ltd
2
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Posted - 2015.03.01 22:32:29 -
[56] - Quote
Iakim Akrelthor wrote:
If Dr. Tukoss is escaping from the so-called Drifters using one of those wormholes, maybe a coordinated effort to clear any of their ships from those same wormholes would be a good idea.
I've heard they take quite a lot of firepower and keeping a safe distance from them to beat.
I'm not sure killing all the drifters is a workable solution. For starters they take a lot of firepower to kill like you said. A coordinated effort to clear all their wormholes (we don't know where Dr Tukoss might turn up) would take a lot of capsuleers and ISK to pull off successfully. Without the backing of the empires or one of the larger capsuleer alliances I'm not convinced it could be done well. Also, at the moment the Drifters are doing their own thing. They pop in, scan stuff then pop out. If we start killing all of them they could become actively hostile. I'd rather not see what several hundred Drifter battleships can do when they're pissed off.
I propose we keep site one under surveillance. We know that the nebula visible through the unidentified wormholes is consistent with the one visible in Thera and (I believe) the shattered systems that are only accessible to small ships. I recommend anyone with access to those systems keep an eye out for any sleeper or drifter class ships acting oddly. Capsuleers living in other anoikis systems should probably keep one eye open too. If I was escaping my captors in a commandeered ship I'd jump through as many random wormholes as I could until my pursuers couldn't possibly know where I was, THEN work out where I am and try to make my way home.
I would guess that the ship we're looking for is closer to drifter specifications rather than the sleeper ships we're used to seeing. I understand traditional sleeper ships are just drones. My understanding is that drones don't usually have space for a crew, meaning a prisoner couldn't escape in one.
When I became a capsuleer I was interested in fortune, immortality and women. When the hell did I start worrying about interstellar wars, missing scientists and thousand year old mysteries? |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
985
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Posted - 2015.03.01 23:15:44 -
[57] - Quote
EdXell wrote:Iakim Akrelthor wrote:
If Dr. Tukoss is escaping from the so-called Drifters using one of those wormholes, maybe a coordinated effort to clear any of their ships from those same wormholes would be a good idea.
I've heard they take quite a lot of firepower and keeping a safe distance from them to beat.
I'm not sure killing all the drifters is a workable solution. For starters they take a lot of firepower to kill like you said. A coordinated effort to clear all their wormholes (we don't know where Dr Tukoss might turn up) would take a lot of capsuleers and ISK to pull off successfully. Without the backing of the empires or one of the larger capsuleer alliances I'm not convinced it could be done well. Also, at the moment the Drifters are doing their own thing. They pop in, scan stuff then pop out. If we start killing all of them they could become actively hostile. I'd rather not see what several hundred Drifter battleships can do when they're pissed off. I propose we keep site one under surveillance. We know that the nebula visible through the unidentified wormholes is consistent with the one visible in Thera and (I believe) the shattered systems that are only accessible to small ships. I recommend anyone with access to those systems keep an eye out for any sleeper or drifter class ships acting oddly. Capsuleers living in other anoikis systems should probably keep one eye open too. If I was escaping my captors in a commandeered ship I'd jump through as many random wormholes as I could until my pursuers couldn't possibly know where I was, THEN work out where I am and try to make my way home. I would guess that the ship we're looking for is closer to drifter specifications rather than the sleeper ships we're used to seeing. I understand traditional sleeper ships are just drones. My understanding is that drones don't usually have space for a crew, meaning a prisoner couldn't escape in one. When I became a capsuleer I was interested in fortune, immortality and women. When the hell did I start worrying about interstellar wars, missing scientists and thousand year old mysteries?
wait, the fortune and immortality actually matter? |
Khaprice
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
The 11th Hour Alliance
8
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Posted - 2015.03.02 10:29:59 -
[58] - Quote
As Anslo stated in his note on the translation document for Hilen Tukioss' latest message, if there is a good chance that he is alive and about to arrive back at AJS1, we're going to need a more organised effort and a solid fleet there if we want to back him up, or at the very least some logistics ships to try and make sure he makes it to some relative safety in one piece. Now, as Vincent Athena mentioned, I have been experimenting with trying to repair both the Seekers and Drifter Marauders, in a variety of different situations. All I was ever given was the message: "You cannot activate that module on the target as interference prevents assistance from being given to them." We know that the Sleeper drones in Anoikis can and will repair one another, so we can only hope that should it occur, whatever ship he manages to escape in is one that we can assist. To this end I will be stockpiling some cheap Exequrors in system, if anyone wants to get involved feel free to contact me. Currently myself, Dr Borkstar and Jaret Victorian, among a pool of maybe half a dozen others, are doing our best to keep an eye on Site One itself, while Morwen Lagan was working from the Eifyr and Co. station, which had been the headquarters for the Arek'Jaalan project before Site One was built. I fear that after a fair interval, and the albeit fascinating distraction of the Seyllin Conference, interest is waning. There will definitely be people ready and willing to kill anything that appears, if we want to try and help, we need to prepare.
Whether or not the man himself is going to show up in Eram now or ever, one thing is certain: the Drifters now have. Although there is no Unidentified Structure that we can see, and no Unidentified Wormhole in system, Artemis Tyrannos is now very much active in system. Like the Seeker drones, she doesn't go to Antiquus as it stands, spending most of her time at the Vullat Gate, or flitting between stations. While there are no correlating strutures in system, I believe it likely that she came out of the UW which popped up in the nearby system of Eystur several days age, though obviously I couldn't possibly comment on whether she used our gate system, or some other means to get from one system to another. Possibilities include more personalized wormholes, unmarked gates we don't know the location of, cloaked structures we can't access, or even some sort of covert-cynosaural technology.
The bigger questions about whether these messages are from Tukoss or some imposter, and if the message is even telling us to keep the Sleepers away from site one, by force if necessary, or is in fact warning us desperately not to shoot any that do show up, remain unanswered. Given the snippets we've received, I'd say that Tukoss' intervention could well explain why the Seekers, and thus maybe the Drifters too (if they are using them as scouts) would be s good an explanation as any for why Site One is being avoided, where before it was shown such a high level of interest. And as such, I'm advocating we try to stay calm, and not aggress. If anyone else has any pertinent information, or wants to express an opinion, please do! |
Feu dAstres
Nox Draconum Holding Corp
Nox Draconum
6
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Posted - 2015.03.02 11:05:55 -
[59] - Quote
I have 20 ECM-equipped griffins in Eram. I will be distributing some of them to Jaret and Khaprice so it is more likely someone will be in system and have some of these ships to distribute in order to respond in a non-destructive manner if or when the Drifters chase Hilen Tukoss into Site One. |
KaRa DaVuT
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
289
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Posted - 2015.03.02 11:21:54 -
[60] - Quote
[quote=Khaprice]As Anslo stated in his note on the translation document for Hilen Tukioss' latest message, if there is a good chance that he is alive and about to arrive back at AJS1, we're going to need a more organised effort and a solid fleet there if we want to back him up, or at the very least some logistics ships to try and make sure he makes it to some relative safety in one piece. /quote]
If there will be a real incursion of Drifters into the Site one, I can organize a defence fleet of Razor Alliance. Have to inform the leadership bfeorehand, but I don't think that there will be any problems at all.
So about the organzied defence, Be vigilant that Razor can gladly form a defence fleet for the good of A'J and defence of Site One.
What I need though is that I need to know the incursion beforehand to organize our forces and get the defense fleet into the System. I also need it beforehand to inform the MA's and our FC's to be prepared for this.
Holiness is in right action and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What God desires is in your heart and on your mind... And what you decide to do every day, makes you - not your race - a good man - or not.
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Eran Mintor
Furtherance.
836
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Posted - 2015.03.02 13:09:15 -
[61] - Quote
I don't think we're going to have the luxury to know much ahead of time, if at all, should such an incursion occur.
-Eran |
Anslo
Scope Works
Overload Everything
31015
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Posted - 2015.03.02 13:13:46 -
[62] - Quote
KaRa DaVuT wrote:[quote=Khaprice]As Anslo stated in his note on the translation document for Hilen Tukioss' latest message, if there is a good chance that he is alive and about to arrive back at AJS1, we're going to need a more organised effort and a solid fleet there if we want to back him up, or at the very least some logistics ships to try and make sure he makes it to some relative safety in one piece. /quote]
If there will be a real incursion of Drifters into the Site one, I can organize a defence fleet of Razor Alliance. Have to inform the leadership bfeorehand, but I don't think that there will be any problems at all.
So about the organzied defence, Be vigilant that Razor can gladly form a defence fleet for the good of A'J and defence of Site One.
What I need though is that I need to know the incursion beforehand to organize our forces and get the defense fleet into the System. I also need it beforehand to inform the MA's and our FC's to be prepared for this.
Set jump clones in Eram and store fleet ships there ahead of time.
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Feu dAstres
Nox Draconum Holding Corp
Nox Draconum
6
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Posted - 2015.03.02 14:32:44 -
[63] - Quote
After 13:00 today I checked, from Eram, two jumps outward:
Eystur: no Unidentified Wormhole
Lirerim: no Unidentified Wormhole
Earwik: an Unidentified Wormhole and Structure are present.
Arlek: no Unidentified Wormhole
Orduin: no Unidentified Wormhole |
Soldarius
Kosher Nostra
The 99 Percent
1151
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Posted - 2015.03.02 21:32:32 -
[64] - Quote
Shtu Lix wrote:Hilen Tukoss wrote:
>> +301445.6846 >> -648744.5468 >> +968742.4856
What are these?
That is a very good question that so far no one has been able to answer.
They appear to be some form of astronometric reference system. But they do not adhere to any system to which I am familiar. An hour, minutes, seconds reference would not have any numbers above 5 prior to the decimals, nor would they start with anything above 23. Decimal degrees would fit, and having +/- signs could indicate up/down or left/right. But Hilen Tukoss' first garbled message had a 7-digit number for the third reference that completely breaks that pattern match. And w have no point of origin for the system itself.
I've compared several suspect systems (ex: Eram/Ordruin) with every other solar system in New Eden and can find no matches in dx/dy/dz or distances. I've even done comparisons on in-system items for Ordruin and Eram. I've also compared literalyl every system in the cluster to the galactic center and nothing matches.
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Shtu Lix
Gea'Vii Enterprises
5
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Posted - 2015.03.03 12:15:00 -
[65] - Quote
Soldarius wrote:Shtu Lix wrote:Hilen Tukoss wrote:
>> +301445.6846 >> -648744.5468 >> +968742.4856
What are these? That is a very good question that so far no one has been able to answer. They appear to be some form of astronometric reference system. But they do not adhere to any system to which I am familiar. An hour, minutes, seconds reference would not have any numbers above 5 prior to the decimals, nor would they start with anything above 23. Decimal degrees would fit, and having +/- signs could indicate up/down or left/right. But Hilen Tukoss' first garbled message had a 7-digit number for the third reference that completely breaks that pattern match. And w have no point of origin for the system itself. I've compared several suspect systems (ex: Eram/Ordruin) with every other solar system in New Eden and can find no matches in dx/dy/dz or distances. I've even done comparisons on in-system items for Ordruin and Eram. I've also compared literalyl every system in the cluster to the galactic center and nothing matches.
I was thinking that they represent the communication antenna orientation aiming to Site One, Eram. Or Site One's position in sleeper coordinates. And if we could reverse engineer it, we could find the point of transmission. If those numbers represent AU's, then mr. Tukoss might be in a covert structure close to Eram. If they represent light years then he's far, far away from New Eden (another galaxy maybe) and that might explain why is taking him so long to reach us. That would also explain the poor quality of the message. |
Soldarius
Kosher Nostra
The 99 Percent
1155
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Posted - 2015.03.03 15:25:17 -
[66] - Quote
Ah, hell. I got my coords mixed up. X is East/West, Y, is the vertical, and Z is North/South. Also, contrary to some opinions I've read, the direction of north and south are not reversed. Time to start over.
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Haria Haritimado
EVE University
Ivy League
22
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Posted - 2015.03.03 18:02:25 -
[67] - Quote
Soldarius wrote:Shtu Lix wrote:Hilen Tukoss wrote:
>> +301445.6846 >> -648744.5468 >> +968742.4856
What are these? That is a very good question that so far no one has been able to answer. They appear to be some form of astronometric reference system. But they do not adhere to any system to which I am familiar. An hour, minutes, seconds reference would not have any numbers above 5 prior to the decimals, nor would they start with anything above 23. Decimal degrees would fit, and having +/- signs could indicate up/down or left/right. But Hilen Tukoss' first garbled message had a 7-digit number for the third reference that completely breaks that pattern match. And w have no point of origin for the system itself. I've compared several suspect systems (ex: Eram/Ordruin) with every other solar system in New Eden and can find no matches in dx/dy/dz or distances. I've even done comparisons on in-system items for Ordruin and Eram. I've also compared literalyl every system in the cluster to the galactic center and nothing matches.
Fellow capsuleers,
from the header context I first supposed it to be some kind of spatial coordinates, pointing to the recipient transponder. Like: coordinates > locked in > router contact > recipient 30003413-60005722 in Eram. . If it is a reference system, it may refer to Project Atlas or Project Compass. I guess that's what Soldarius is working on? It would be nice know on which dataset your testing is based, Mr. Soldarius.
My second observation was that those numbers could refer to chatroom IDs. They are quiet similar but do not exactly follow the scheme of chatroom IDs (as far as I know). For example, the SeyCon auditorium was recorded and broadcast on channel -67552682. It would make sense, since the supposed transmission from Hilen Tukoss was aimed at capsuleer and empire recipients. He must've used some channel to broadcast it. And like others have translated, he was propably using multiple frequencies and/or channels anyway.
At the moment, my hope goes to Soldarius' work. If there's anything I can do to help, let me know.
Respectfully,
H.H.
Character blog: Horizons and Reflections
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6336
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Posted - 2015.03.03 23:47:49 -
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I have a bad feeling that all hell is going to break loose and this is a sign of it. I've been tied up in countering commerce-interdiction operations lately so I might have to send my sister over to help.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Leon Zhost
Zhost Industries
4
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Posted - 2015.03.05 04:59:11 -
[69] - Quote
I think this is worth pointing out, not sure if anyone else has had a similar thought.
Assuming the transmission has been decoded properly, I am pretty sure the numbers attached to the Doctor's message give us some sort of clue as to when he is going to arrive in system.
If anyone out there cracks the code, if anyone out there determines his arrival time, DO NOT make that information available to the public. Share it only with those you trust.
This doctor may be our only clue to stopping the Drifters, and all it takes is one psychopath egger to show up and snuff him out. I think we all know just how many Captains there are out there who would kill him in a second just to have a laugh, not to mention the Caldari State still considers him a wanted man. Tread carefully, lets do this right. |
Threll Lornax
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
9
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Posted - 2015.03.05 09:39:21 -
[70] - Quote
I have to agree with Leon, this information can't be made easily available. A'J leadership should be the only ones with access to this information in my opinion. |
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Eran Mintor
Furtherance.
843
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Posted - 2015.03.05 11:59:57 -
[71] - Quote
Who's to say A'J "leadership" is to be trusted? I don't even think this new conception of A'J has leadership, from what I understand.
No, you're best off letting everyone know. Last thing you want to do is tie up someone's rescue in red-tape.
-Eran |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
Naquatech Syndicate
1739
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Posted - 2015.03.05 14:30:00 -
[72] - Quote
Threll Lornax wrote:I have to agree with Leon, this information can't be made easily available. A'J leadership should be the only ones with access to this information in my opinion.
There is no such thing.
Akrasjel Lanate
General Director(CEO) of Naquatech Conglomerate
Executor of Naquatech Syndicate
Citizen of Solitude
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1889
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Posted - 2015.03.05 16:38:32 -
[73] - Quote
The Acquisition Division of the Arek'Jaalan Project is always ready to provide full assistance for the safe return of our Hilen Tukoss. |
Lydia Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
0
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Posted - 2015.03.09 07:09:25 -
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SSTG Mahayana at 15000 KM from inoperative jump gate in search pattern since 10K KM along the vector. Nothing out here. |
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