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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.14 11:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Butter Dog
Sorry, are BoB members actually trying to argue that they are an Industrial alliance, and that ASCN is a PvP one?
This is getting really funny 
If you want to brag about kill/loss, go on the warpath with D2 or AAA. Then, you would have a good reason to brag. As it is, you don't. It another Goon/Huzzah/Aridia locals type ego-boosting slaughter.
If you want a well done, you've come to the wrong place. No-one outside your own alliance is impressed this time.
Usually everyone attacked by bob turns into an industrial alliance to defend itself morally.
FA was one of the major 5 players early eve saw. When it got attacked it was "buhu were industrial".
Xetic was a major player in the post CA time and stuck there nose in every agreement made in the south. Yet when they got attacked by 5 they cried "buhu we are industrial".
When G / Iron got attacked while attacking Ascn (Frontline troops left home) both stated "buhuu those are our industry guys ure killing".
When Trust was killed by Ascn and BoB (they merged into D2 lateron) everyone said "doh they are industrial".
Please name me 5 major spacecontrolling non industrial alliances in eve. You simply cant because every alliance needs a backbone to build ships, to freighter around goods, to fuel towers, to generate isk (for all the fine pos and capital stuff) and to replace losses against attackers.
The secret of eve is that its not unique to have multiple characters which can be good in very different areas.
As for bobs industrial side, there was a whine not long ago that bob had a t2 bpo of nearly everything and that they can produce every hac, commandship, reconship, interceptor at costprice. How do you do that without industrial backbone ?
Frankly said the forums were filled with buzzing about the "clash of the titans" now that we have it and it is a rough ride for Ascn every fanboy calls them industrial alliance and puts up a new titan bob is supposed to challenge.
BoB is fighting parts of the same coalition which fought RA and noone moaned about. How can it be fair for 4+ alliances to team up against RA while its unfair for BoB to attack 1 which gets immideately supported by 3 others (POS, Axe and partly LV / VI / Huzzah remains?)?
The conclusion is: "butter dog your argument just got shot out of the sky, youre the one who is funny".
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.14 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Hehe.
Well, I enjoy the forum, and I love the fact BoB are so easy to wind up. Do I like ASCN? Not really. They need someone to shake them up..
If posting tough on the forums to wind someone more successfull up is your way to "winning eve" go ahead.
For those who play the game via the client it doesnt matter much if you "showed them" on the forums. Afterall they can login and do something about it. You on the otherhand can spit bollox about bob all day but we both know u cant challenge them or defeat them.
You know the saying about dogs barking and not biting etc...
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.14 11:31:00 -
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Edited by: Kcel Chim on 14/10/2006 11:31:50
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Louisa Torres
there is only one person here spending more time spewing garbage on the forums, and as is quite obvious - that isn't us.
I spend about 1 hour a day browsing the forums. Can't say the same for some members of your alliance.
you started today atleast at 9.49 which is 1 page back, now its 11.30. Lying anyone ?
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.15 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Denying it and claiming you were uber PvPers who stood your own with BoB is pure comedy.
no matter what they did or didnt or how many skillpoints they had. Coming to a fight and losing it is still superior to sitting in empire spitting wise remarks and belitteling comments at others. At any day of the week.
So before you give anyone advice or belittle anyone on their achievements it would be smarter to pack your own 3 man corp and show bob. Hell for all i care join ASCN and apply to be fleetcommander. Im sure the outcome would be well worth it.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.18 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Magnus Thermopyle
I dont know how the war is going, but if I would guess based on the post (and how the attitude has changed), I would say that ASCN is doing way better than expected.
If BoB where half as good as they say they are, this war would be over by now. Instead the war is currently fought in BoB space. Not exactly what I call a surgical strike into ASCN territory 
sorry magnus but i honestly hope that you dont believe half of the bollox you just posted.
Whenever did a war between 2 of the biggest ingame factions end in under 2 weeks ?
Whenever did killing an alliance work as a surgical strike ?
Eve is a game where "damage over time" and "moral" matters above any other tactical or strategical evaluations. You should know that seeing how you fought alongside PA who couldnt muster even 100 bs to help you out while they had hundreds freeloading. PA didnt die in 1 day despite it beeing overdue many many times why should Ascn ?
Ascn for sure is feeling the heat, losses mount up, internal tension builds up (FC getting shouted at, some corps not pulling the weight) all those are well documented from the ASCN blogs not from hostile PR.
BoB stated right from the start that they were looking at a long campaign and that it would take weeks if not months before they would go into a pos/station/capital conflict. They stated pretty much right away "we wanna kill, kill them all".
Ascn claims that bobs moral is folding seems hillarious, considering they didnt even complete "phase one" yet and basically just started the war with some raids and some fleetbattles.
Anyone knowing bobs past history - from the defeats of FA, PA, GNW- knows fairly well that they have a long breath and that 2 weeks mean nothing for a fighting force setup for "a long war".
Whatever you may call bob, unprepared is one of the things i wouldnt call them as show time after time. So personally im quiet sure they know whats on the road for them and what it takes. Atleast they know that going for an alliance with 20+ outposts and stations will require more then 2 weeks of fleetbattles and roaming.
Unless you have info about Ascn internally folding and you didnt mention them yet ?
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