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Metacannibal
Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.13 00:18:00 -
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hello, i would like to suggest a feature of veterancy for characters. the concept is simple: each month of subscription gives a character a 50k skillpoint "bonus" that is paid out in a chunk of 600k sp every 12 months of character age. of course, only months of active subscription would count to avoid people making alts and farm them in a year :)
it is not a big bonus, just nice enough to give players a decent smile once a year to finish that bloody skill off. also this bonus is only applicable to the character with the highest amount of SP on the account, to avoid excessive amount of alts. this should be applied retroactively to all existing characters just to make people happy and MAYBE give a bit of a reward to people playing for years.
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Jinx Barker
Gallente Federal Bank
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Posted - 2006.10.13 01:50:00 -
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Edited by: Jinx Barker on 13/10/2006 01:50:55 he he he... so it means a 3 year old character will recieve 600k x 3 = 1.8 Mil SP. in some cases this is about 4 weeks worth of training or a complete Rank 5 Skill+512k SP .
Anyway, if CCP ever does something like this I want to say that I am NOT against it.
Although I am sure it will cause allot of whinage from people and stuff that veterans are getting better and stuff.
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Reggie Stoneloader
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.13 04:11:00 -
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It wouldn't be a real change, it would just accelerate skill training minutely, then award the bonus at distant intervals. I'm not against it, but neither am I for it. It seems unimportant.
You may as well boost everyone's training time by one SP per minute, have a one SP/minute "tax" on skill training, then issue tax returns in April, where each character gets a lump sum of SP given to them.
Meh.
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Jenial
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:55:00 -
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Um id like a 2 mill bonues just for signing up the first time. come on get real ;)
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Strikeclone
Caldari Starscreamers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 09:07:00 -
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not sure if a skill boost is the way I would like to go , but evey other mmorpg has some kind of veteran reward system.
As a 4 year veteran I certainly want a unique veteran item that cant be bought or sold or destroyed for my loyalty and subscription fees.
Prehaps a single nice module chosen from a series of race specifics that give better stats than the top faction mod.
Or maybe a paint job that a veteran can apply to any ship, so that even if it gets destroyed he can repaint a new shp.
something that makes him a valued customer.
its hardly a precedent. so ccp give me stuff.
oh or alternatively give me mod powers so that i can insta ban all these alt/nob whiners :P
Strikeclone High chief Pombear. Head of Navel intellygence.KAiN Defender of the enourmous manhood.Kd
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Ruze
No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.13 09:25:00 -
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There is a veteran reward system in Eve unlike any other. And it's simple.
Looking at skillpoints alone, you can never be outdone. You can always have more than those who came in after you.
Seems pretty foolproof to me.
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Redart
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.10.13 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze There is a veteran reward system in Eve unlike any other. And it's simple.
Looking at skillpoints alone, you can never be outdone. You can always have more than those who came in after you.
Seems pretty foolproof to me.
QFT
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Reggie Stoneloader
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.13 16:55:00 -
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Yeah, you don't need a turret with 10% more damage. You've got enough level 5 skills that you already get 26% more damage. Quit your whining, your sense of entitlement offends me. Lousy veterans, always asking to get something for nothing.
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Sythelis
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Posted - 2006.10.13 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Reggie Stoneloader Yeah, you don't need a turret with 10% more damage. You've got enough level 5 skills that you already get 26% more damage. Quit your whining, your sense of entitlement offends me. Lousy veterans, always asking to get something for nothing.
the above reminds me why i always say "If the human population could sue for stupidity, everyone would be poor."
I agree 100% with this post. If you play the game long enough to get into it, you should get a bonus. It's not like in WOW, where you can go farm for 21 days and get a top lvl character and then 1 motnh after that, have every single uber dragon slate armor piece to make you a god. This game takes time... Newbs, quit whining for the love of god... if you want something out of a game, play it for as long as others have, vets - you have lots of sp... but a reward for playing activly every year would be grand.
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Ithildin
Gallente The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.13 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze There is a veteran reward system in Eve unlike any other. And it's simple.
Looking at skillpoints alone, you can never be outdone. You can always have more than those who came in after you.
Seems pretty foolproof to me.
Aside from that I agree that there exist no need for a veterancy bonus, just as there exist no need for a veterancy penalty, I must say that you are a bit off in the above quote.
There are plenty of guys that started at the same time as me, or shortly after, with more skillpoints. I've lost nearly 3 million SPs over the last three years because I am Intaki and not, for example, Civiere. (Gunnery and space ship command are not skill categories an Intaki should train if he wants to participate in a skill points race) - Three years old |

Redart
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:50:00 -
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Originally by: Ithildin There are plenty of guys that started at the same time as me, or shortly after, with more skillpoints. I've lost nearly 3 million SPs over the last three years because I am Intaki and not, for example, Civiere. (Gunnery and space ship command are not skill categories an Intaki should train if he wants to participate in a skill points race)
The above OP was talking about YEARS. If someone started a year after you and has alot more SP than you, then you're doing something HORRIBLY wrong.
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Strikeclone
Caldari Starscreamers
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Posted - 2006.10.14 06:24:00 -
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forget skill points, this topic is not about how much SP a player has or how well someone has trained or any of that bullcrap.
Its about a loyalty reward scheme, in planetside vets get access to special weapons. In other games you get unique collectors items or some nice powerful toys.
In eve vets should likewise get some nice toy or mod or something to say thank you for playing and paying for such a long time. I know I have spent hundreds of pounds in sub fees and I would like a litle in game perk for that.
Strikeclone High chief Pombear. Head of Navel intellygence. Defender of the enourmous manhood.
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Reggie Stoneloader
eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.14 08:05:00 -
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Are we seriously comparing EvE's character advancement system to other MMOGs? EvE rewards veterans with an endless supply of content that only they can access and interface with. They get the opportunity to use capital ships, T2 ships, modules and ammo, high-level POS operations and outposts. Only in the last month has a Titan been used in combat on Tranquility. You get to do and use and see things that new players can only dream about.
What is there to do in WoW than can't be done within five months of starting the game? How about Everquest? How about any other MMO? They have to bribe their long-standing players because they run out of content, and need a pat on the head to keep their spirits up.
What is there in EvE that can't be done in under five months? Everything worthwhile.
EvE worships high-SP toons. The galaxy revolves around you. Any endeavor that doesn't have at least a few juggernaut veterans is doomed to almost certain failure. There is nothing more freakishly inappropriate than veteran EvE players asking for a reward for being the most important thing in the game.
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Ruze
No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.14 12:59:00 -
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The op is trying to say that, because some players can clock two, three or four years in game, they should deserve a VERY special item or prize.
My own personal opinion, but that's BS. They have the most special rewards system of any other MMO. You don't need recognized for your time in game, because you already ARE.
If anything, give players who just started something small and uber. That seems viable. Of course, I don't like either idea, because those players just starting should have to work and train just like the rest of us.
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