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Hangman69
Horny AngryBear Lovers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 07:57:00 -
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Edited by: Hangman69 on 13/10/2006 07:58:15 Checking the bob kb i see a negative k/d ratio so far for a fenrir kill for a lot of dead bobs. Was whatever was in that freighter worth the losses?
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Erin Kingsman
Gallente A.W.M
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:02:00 -
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Edited by: Erin Kingsman on 13/10/2006 08:04:23 Popping a hauler is ALWAYS worth it.
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:04:00 -
[3]
Yup  |

Sir JoJo
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:10:00 -
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OFC it was.
the ship alone makes it whorth alot then add what it was carrying
*snip* Don't be nasty [email protected] to discuss mod - Cathath i am not nasty |

Romulus Maximus
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:15:00 -
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Were at war. So popping a hostile Frieghter trying to support thier war efforts in our space is ofc worth it. Sure someone will post what was in it.

Current RKK Ranking: (AMM13) Admiral - 800 kills
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Mr AtLanTis
God's of Eve
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tzrailasa Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/10/2006 08:08:08 Answer to OP's question: Yup 
You can ask ASCN for the cargo manifest, but I doubt they'll admit what was in it...
I think you should check with your corp first, or atleast check your alliance's killboard. It says it was a freighter from "Kharn Empire" which is in no alliance.
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Lord Draco
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Mr AtLanTis
Originally by: Tzrailasa Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/10/2006 08:08:08 Answer to OP's question: Yup 
You can ask ASCN for the cargo manifest, but I doubt they'll admit what was in it...
I think you should check with your corp first, or atleast check your alliance's killboard. It says it was a freighter from "Kharn Empire" which is in no alliance.
 Do a little research + thinking before you post from now on.
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Sir JoJo
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Mr AtLanTis
Originally by: Tzrailasa Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/10/2006 08:08:08 Answer to OP's question: Yup 
You can ask ASCN for the cargo manifest, but I doubt they'll admit what was in it...
I think you should check with your corp first, or atleast check your alliance's killboard. It says it was a freighter from "Kharn Empire" which is in no alliance.
if u allready been at the bord tjeck all participans in the fight and ull get the picture pretty fast.
*snip* Don't be nasty [email protected] to discuss mod - Cathath i am not nasty |

thoth foc
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:22:00 -
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Edited by: thoth foc on 13/10/2006 08:24:41 Depends what the op mean by worth it.. the isk value alone is meaningless.. we can replace the ships as easily as i expect the freighter and contains can be replaced..
but what price can you put on an enemy wasting more of it's members isk with bad planning?
 
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Mr AtLanTis I think you should check with your corp first, or atleast check your alliance's killboard. It says it was a freighter from "Kharn Empire" which is in no alliance.
As others said... Check the killboard more carefully. All the escorts were ASCN. What does that tell you?
Freighter pilots are often not IN 0.0 corps since it can limit their mobility in empire during wars.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:55:00 -
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Prob ASCN will deny it was their or that it had anything in cargo , i am htinking the official reply would be it was a friendly freighter in danger or somehting like that . Too bad freighter cargo doesnt show in KMs  "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Prob ASCN will deny it was their or that it had anything in cargo , i am htinking the official reply would be it was a friendly freighter in danger or somehting like that . Too bad freighter cargo doesnt show in KMs 
Afaik, BoB pilots scanned it down and followed it before killing it. It was escorted from empire by ASCN, so it'll be a bit difficult for them to claim it's a neutral. There's a full list of the contents on the BoB forum  |

Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.10.13 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tzrailasa . There's a full list of the contents on the BoB forum 
Share please
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Inflexible
Rytiri Lva Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.13 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Pestillence Share please
I smell POS spammer here 
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DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:07:00 -
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Well I wasn't going to post in this thread because I really don't see any need but after hearing how the ASCN corp involved has tried to spin the loss of a freighter into a massive victory in front of the rest of their ASCN buddies I decided to post exactly what was lost.
Our pilots scanned the freighter yesterday morning and the following items were in the hold: 106500 Liquid Ozone 230000 Hydrogen Isotopes 700 Robotics 2100 Enriched Uranium 13000 Oxygen 3000 Mechanical Parts 5000 Coolant 1 Minmatar Control Tower 7 Large Artillery Battery 2 Small Autocannon Battery 6 Warp Disruption Battery 3 Photon Scattering Array 3 Heat Dissipation Array 3 Explosion Dampening Array 3 Ballistic Deflection Array 80000 Heavy Water 5000 Javelin M 10000 Spike M 1400 Inferno Javelin Torpedo 1000 Mjolnir Rage Torpedo 10000 Carbonized Lead L 10000 EMP L 5000 EMP M 100000 EMP S 4000 Thor Torpedo I 24000 Cataclysm Cruise Missile 30000 Paradise Cruise Missile 20000 Scourge Heavy Missile 25000 Antimatter Charge M 10000 Lead Charge M 36000 Phalanx Rocket 27000 Mjolnir Torpedo 50 Valkyrie I 2 Dragonfly 1 Einherji 3 Firbolg 2 Templar 17 Berserker SW-900 50000 Nitrogen Isotopes 50476 Oxygen Isotopes 10 10MN MicroWarpdrive II 50 1MN MicroWarpdrive I 15 Warp Core Stabilizer I 10 400mm Reinforced Steel Plates II 10 800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II 1 Small Armor Repairer I 50 Heavy Ion Blaster II 60 Warp Scrambler I 10 Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 50 Rocket Launcher I 50 Standard Missile Launcher I 30 Reactor Control Unit II 100 200mm AutoCannon I 50 Stasis Webifier I 10 X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator 956 Bloodclaw Light Missile 2 Micro Auxilary Power Core I 58 Nanofiber Internal Structure I 1 'Arbalest' Assault Missile Launcher 1 200mm Light Prototype I Automatic Cannon 10 Thorax 50 Rifter 20000 EMP XL 1 Corporate Hangar Array 79883 Strontium Clathrates 5400 Liquid Ozone
We proceeded to keep an eye on the area until the Sha Kharn Corp decided to attempt to move it into Delve.
Mako caught the freighter and watched as the rest of the Sha Karn gang warped off at 0.3 au/s without the freighter.
Our pilots piled into the area and although lacking firepower, they continued to shoot the Freighter down even after the enemy gang had returned and attempted to wipe the BoB gang out.
While taking losses, the BoB gang was able to burst the freighter much to the delight of our pilots.
Yeah but who cares? It's only a freighter right? It's only isk of which ASCN have tons?
No.
It's another botched attempt by ASCN to do anything in this war which has led to yet another failure.
Finally we have found an alliance who attempts to bring a fight to us but they need to learn to achieve their goals with much better results.
Cheers, dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Mokita
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:16:00 -
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yawn ....
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Kuang
V I R I I Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:18:00 -
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loosing something like that can be a kick in the nuts regardless of the isk lost .... time involved in planning for materials and gathering it up ... let alone getting the pilots to get in position to escort
CDC Forums
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mokita yawn ....
Wow, what a constructive and useful post, well done, you did very well and were all very proud of you. Read a book, save a school
Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance |

Horatio Starkiller
Minmatar TAOSP Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 13/10/2006 08:24:41 Depends what the op mean by worth it.. the isk value alone is meaningless.. we can replace the ships as easily as i expect the freighter and contains can be replaced..
but what price can you put on an enemy wasting more of it's members isk with bad planning?
 
you highlight isk being meaningless in this loss but highlight it as a serious issue for bob pilots... tell me... do you think before words leave your mouth or does ignorance just come naturally?
What makes your think our ships can't be as easily replaced? Your signature is inappropriate ( copyrighted material). Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg |

DB Preacher
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Horatio Starkiller
Originally by: thoth foc Edited by: thoth foc on 13/10/2006 08:24:41 Depends what the op mean by worth it.. the isk value alone is meaningless.. we can replace the ships as easily as i expect the freighter and contains can be replaced..
but what price can you put on an enemy wasting more of it's members isk with bad planning?
 
you highlight isk being meaningless in this loss but highlight it as a serious issue for bob pilots... tell me... do you think before words leave your mouth or does ignorance just come naturally?
What makes your think our ships can't be as easily replaced?
Horatio, I think ignorance must come naturally to you because Thoth is a DICE member.
Wake up foo'
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Latex Mistress
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:29:00 -
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Edited by: Latex Mistress on 13/10/2006 10:35:03
Originally by: DB Preacher We killed stuff
That was the entire contents of my alts' hangar!!! 
EDIT: Nice kill btw...
 LM
Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
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Troubadour
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:33:00 -
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Yep, just sucks I couldn't get on the mail since it jumped out of smeb before dying :( dumb capitals and their stupid jumpdrives. Good job though guys, glad you stuck it to ASCN again.
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magickangaroo
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mr AtLanTis
Originally by: Tzrailasa Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/10/2006 08:08:08 Answer to OP's question: Yup 
You can ask ASCN for the cargo manifest, but I doubt they'll admit what was in it...
I think you should check with your corp first, or atleast check your alliance's killboard. It says it was a freighter from "Kharn Empire" which is in no alliance.
yes... cos im sure you were there and of course know more than the people involved in the kill. if you had any intelgence you woulda seen that everyone else involved in it were Sha Kharn Corp and bob corps.
and at teh bottom of the killmail you no doubt read thourghly before posting, you will see a crow who was no doubt webbing the freighter from the Sha Kharn Corp.
so yeah.. maybe not in ascn but without a doubt with ascn.
stop nit picking
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Cmd Woodlouse
Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:39:00 -
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Now we are making topics about a killed freigther, omg  --------------------------------
Spain ftw! |

Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mr AtLanTis
Originally by: Tzrailasa Edited by: Tzrailasa on 13/10/2006 08:08:08 Answer to OP's question: Yup 
You can ask ASCN for the cargo manifest, but I doubt they'll admit what was in it...
I think you should check with your corp first, or atleast check your alliance's killboard. It says it was a freighter from "Kharn Empire" which is in no alliance.
wow, your logic is striking!
I bow to you and your infinite wisdom!
anyone with two braincells to rub together can see who owned that freighter 
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Now we are making topics about a killed freigther, omg 
Not us this time 
P.S. How's Venal? Still cursed?
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Weebear
Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:44:00 -
[27]
Originally by: magickangaroo
<snip> if you had any intelgence </snip>
Can I buy an implant for it?
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 10:44:00 -
[28]
thats a funny one :P - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 11:22:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Weebear
Originally by: magickangaroo
<snip> if you had any intelgence </snip>
Can I buy an implant for it?
sorry, I took them all in the hope of once learning the alphabet 
and I agree with woodnubs, bit much with a topic of a freighter kill tbh
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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Mah Kraah
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.10.13 11:38:00 -
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its not that much the isk loss , afterall ascn has 5k member to replace that isk. BUT the cargo was planed in by the ascn war-highcomand and is missing now, means a plan is screwed and a planed offensive/ erecting supplibase cant be done with effects on the whole war . isk in wallet dont help, a tower with supplies behind hostile lines do. bob interuped a operation of ascn in the earlyest stage witch helps them to keep initiative and therefor control over how this war continue. killing of this freighter was worth it alot. just a neutral observer
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Assassin 2
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.10.13 11:55:00 -
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get a life. making a post about 1 single kill is pathetic. Bob aint nothing special.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 11:58:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Assassin 2 get a life. making a post about 1 single kill is pathetic. Bob aint nothing special.
But at least we got cool sigs 
And damn...its allways frustrating to go to bed several minutes before something like this happen
IF YOU SEE ME WHINING OR NERVOUS THEN THERE ARE IDIOTS NEAR BY |

Kerosene
Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.13 12:05:00 -
[33]
Could someone find out whether Tutelary's alt's freighter has logged back in yet after it blatently logged out on me in y-2? kthxbye.
Incidentally, at least that freighter had an escort. BoB's idea of an escort. That's it. __
Originally by: Blacklight on BoB Just to be sure everyone is clear...
We use spies. We listen to your TS. We feed you false intel. We have no qualms about it whatsoever..
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 12:10:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Assassin 2 get a life. making a post about 1 single kill is pathetic. Bob aint nothing special.
The op was asking if it was wrth the losses we took to take out the freighter, a valid question, lost on your ignorance obviously. Read a book, save a school
Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance |

LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kerosene Could someone find out whether Tutelary's alt's freighter has logged back in yet after it blatently logged out on me in y-2? kthxbye.
Incidentally, at least that freighter had an escort. BoB's idea of an escort. That's it.
Dunno, ask in your alliance about ctrl+q expertise, we are just learning from you. Sig is not eve related
Eve related? Copyright of ISD?
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Robert Dobbs
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 12:31:00 -
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Oh, oh, Can I play?
ASCN can afford losses. BoB can afford losses.
ASCN can't afford to lose this war. -
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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darth solo
Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2006.10.13 12:47:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Weebear
Originally by: magickangaroo
<snip> if you had any intelgence </snip>
Can I buy an implant for it?
sorry, I took them all in the hope of once learning the alphabet 
dont do it man, i once learned it, took me 3 years, then the very next day it was forgotten, deffo not worth it.. learn who each playboy playmate of the month is, it will serve u much better in life.
d solo.
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Amthrianius
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 12:48:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Sha Kharn Forums Another great night for SHAK corp.
Best part about the night, reading their forums and watching them try and spin it more than Alastair Campbell

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Zagum Darkfin
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 13:50:00 -
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I like to thank ASCN for breaking in my new raven and Mako for doing one hell of a tackle.
See you in space.
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Bizarre
TAOSP
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Posted - 2006.10.13 13:52:00 -
[40]
ASCN did a fine job in losing an assload of modules! --------------------
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Assassin 2
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.10.13 14:06:00 -
[41]
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Assassin 2 get a life. making a post about 1 single kill is pathetic. Bob aint nothing special.
The op was asking if it was wrth the losses we took to take out the freighter, a valid question, lost on your ignorance obviously. Read a book, save a school
be quiet. ignorance im not showing however if he wanted to ask about the freighter why bring it to the forums. Could have easily sent an eve mail or joined a public room of some sort. waste of time readin such crap.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 14:09:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Assassin 2
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Assassin 2 get a life. making a post about 1 single kill is pathetic. Bob aint nothing special.
The op was asking if it was wrth the losses we took to take out the freighter, a valid question, lost on your ignorance obviously. Read a book, save a school
be quiet. ignorance im not showing however if he wanted to ask about the freighter why bring it to the forums. Could have easily sent an eve mail or joined a public room of some sort. waste of time readin such crap.
So you can actually read...
Now if you don't like content, go away. Sig is not eve related
Eve related? Copyright of ISD?
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.13 14:10:00 -
[43]
rofl i just read this entire thread, hoping to see more of the bob sigs. Damn good :D
Liked the last one best tho rofl.
Can ya make me one? As a 'bob-fan'? :P

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HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 14:20:00 -
[44]
Yet another poorly executed attempt on BoB space, how embarrassing...

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Waxau
Liberty Rogues Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.13 14:24:00 -
[45]
rofl ok that sig wins:P

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Hangman69
Horny AngryBear Lovers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 15:12:00 -
[46]
Good to see the kill was worth all the t2 shiplosses.
PS: i'm not a bob alt, i just watch my buddy theo's stats.
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theforce
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.13 15:23:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Robert Dobbs Oh, oh, Can I play?
ASCN can afford losses. BoB can afford losses.
ASCN can't afford to lose this war.
neither does bob
Killing a hostile freighter is always worth some losses
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.10.13 16:15:00 -
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And well, I'd say it's better to kill a large pos, while it's still in a freighter, than when it's fully active in space.  Ok, ASCN will get a new one, but I guess both sides are so damn rich that it will take some time, until isk damage matters. Probably more important that your supply is working and that you don't lack material, where you need it, although you have hundreds of billions isk.
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Cyleth
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 16:19:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Assassin 2
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Assassin 2 get a life. making a post about 1 single kill is pathetic. Bob aint nothing special.
The op was asking if it was wrth the losses we took to take out the freighter, a valid question, lost on your ignorance obviously. Read a book, save a school
be quiet. ignorance im not showing however if he wanted to ask about the freighter why bring it to the forums. Could have easily sent an eve mail or joined a public room of some sort. waste of time readin such crap.
Don't read then, it's not like you have to. --
Nobody stays behind |

NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.10.13 16:26:00 -
[50]
OMG you BoBbits totally fell for that freighter bait. 
FREEE is Recruiting |

Crovan
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.13 16:27:00 -
[51]
*wanders into the thread*
I seem to have misplaced my main...are any of you my main?
I, for one, would like to see how one could make an honest attempt to spin a freighter death. Those are just bad news no matter who you are and how many ISKies you have, as has been stated.
Originally by: Seleene
Client - "You smash them."
MC - "Ooooh! Good! Like to smash!"
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El Yatta
Caldari Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.10.13 16:57:00 -
[52]
Edited by: El Yatta on 13/10/2006 16:58:29 It really doesnt matter how much BoB lost killing it (no, I dont care how much). If you kill a bunch of ships, those will be remade in your enemies space, on BOTH side. If they kill a freighter full of empire-bought-only POS parts going to a STRATEGIC location in your campaign, you have no choice but to run the SAME route in another freighter, or abandon your goal.
The freighter itself is worth 550-600m with the 40% insurance payout taken off, and say the parts and supplies inside were worth 2bn (I have no idae if they were, I havent bothered to add it up). Total 3bn. Now if BoB managed to lose even 6bn worth of t2 and faction shinies to get it, it doesnt matter, because it is now chained. ASCN will effectively spawn another freighter with the same logistics again, or concede defeat in whichever action those supplies were intended for.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 17:53:00 -
[53]
Originally by: NATMav OMG you BoBbits totally fell for that freighter bait. 
Yeah, we fell for the fully laden with pos bits n bobs n ships n kit freighter bait, hope theres mre trixx like that to come . Read a book, save a school 
Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance |

qvacky
AUS Corporation CORE.
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Posted - 2006.10.13 18:02:00 -
[54]
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: NATMav OMG you BoBbits totally fell for that freighter bait. 
Yeah, we fell for the fully laden with pos bits n bobs n ships n kit freighter bait, hope theres mre trixx like that to come . Read a book, save a school 
Sarcasm detector broken today?
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 18:08:00 -
[55]
Originally by: qvacky
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: NATMav OMG you BoBbits totally fell for that freighter bait. 
Yeah, we fell for the fully laden with pos bits n bobs n ships n kit freighter bait, hope theres mre trixx like that to come . Read a book, save a school 
Sarcasm detector broken today?
heh, was gonna say the same thing :p
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RogerWilco
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 18:08:00 -
[56]
if that freighter was just bait, keep it comming plz..
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Avon
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 18:37:00 -
[57]
Originally by: NATMav OMG you BoBbits totally fell for that freighter bait. 
Ohnoes, how stupid! It is clear that compared with BoB, our enemies are tactical master baiters.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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ProphetGuru
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 19:36:00 -
[58]
Originally by: El Yatta Edited by: El Yatta on 13/10/2006 16:58:29 It really doesnt matter how much BoB lost killing it (no, I dont care how much). If you kill a bunch of ships, those will be remade in your enemies space, on BOTH side. If they kill a freighter full of empire-bought-only POS parts going to a STRATEGIC location in your campaign, you have no choice but to run the SAME route in another freighter, or abandon your goal.
The freighter itself is worth 550-600m with the 40% insurance payout taken off, and say the parts and supplies inside were worth 2bn (I have no idae if they were, I havent bothered to add it up). Total 3bn. Now if BoB managed to lose even 6bn worth of t2 and faction shinies to get it, it doesnt matter, because it is now chained. ASCN will effectively spawn another freighter with the same logistics again, or concede defeat in whichever action those supplies were intended for.
Holy crap, someone with a clue!
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Hast
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:47:00 -
[59]
Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: El Yatta Edited by: El Yatta on 13/10/2006 16:58:29 It really doesnt matter how much BoB lost killing it (no, I dont care how much). If you kill a bunch of ships, those will be remade in your enemies space, on BOTH side. If they kill a freighter full of empire-bought-only POS parts going to a STRATEGIC location in your campaign, you have no choice but to run the SAME route in another freighter, or abandon your goal.
The freighter itself is worth 550-600m with the 40% insurance payout taken off, and say the parts and supplies inside were worth 2bn (I have no idae if they were, I havent bothered to add it up). Total 3bn. Now if BoB managed to lose even 6bn worth of t2 and faction shinies to get it, it doesnt matter, because it is now chained. ASCN will effectively spawn another freighter with the same logistics again, or concede defeat in whichever action those supplies were intended for.
Holy crap, someone with a clue!
quickly, hide!
Originally by: CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain.
-CYVOK-
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HordeZla
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Assassin 2 get a life. making a post about 1 single kill is pathetic. Bob aint nothing special.
And you are?
And had it been a titan would your silly smack about 1 single kill be true. mabey you should get a grip or your fingers as there not attached to your little brain. Your signature is inappropriate ( copyrighted material). Please read the forum rules before reposting- Tirg |

Helplessandlost
Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.13 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Assassin 2
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Assassin 2 get a life. making a post about 1 single kill is pathetic. Bob aint nothing special.
The op was asking if it was wrth the losses we took to take out the freighter, a valid question, lost on your ignorance obviously. Read a book, save a school
be quiet. ignorance im not showing however if he wanted to ask about the freighter why bring it to the forums. Could have easily sent an eve mail or joined a public room of some sort. waste of time readin such crap.
Bob needs to stop using their Forum hacks that force people like this to read the threads about them.
Even though this is a public room of some sort 
"Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!"
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zeKzn
Empire of Destiny
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Posted - 2006.10.13 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: zeKzn on 13/10/2006 22:14:07
Originally by: Darcuese And damn...its allways frustrating to go to bed several minutes before something like this happen
thats what copious amounts of caffeine is for! _______
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.10.13 23:18:00 -
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Maybe I missed it, but where did the manifest come from? ASCN forums I suppose?
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav Maybe I missed it, but where did the manifest come from? ASCN forums I suppose?
We cargo scanned it.
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Wraith foc
Destructive Influence
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Posted - 2006.10.13 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav Maybe I missed it, but where did the manifest come from? ASCN forums I suppose?
nop
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Sha Kharn
Minmatar Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.14 04:23:00 -
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Yea good kill bob. Hats off to you. Well im glad i insured the freighter. Total loss to us was a crow and all that stuff in the freighter which you have already posted. Was a crazy ass mission and well lets just say we got a hell of a good fight out of it and I would deff do it again. That was one awsome night im glad you had the balls to keep coming at us even after the freighter blew. So what did we kill of yours that night?
I know my pilots all walked away with big grins after that and im guessing even all your pilots that died that night had big grins too.
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Ant5010
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Posted - 2006.10.14 04:25:00 -
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feck sry this is my main
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Rooters
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Posted - 2006.10.14 04:25:00 -
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Aye, i totally agree even thou i wasnt there all our corp members that were involved were totally buzzed about that experience and all things set aside thats what this game is all about
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HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.14 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sha Kharn Yea good kill bob. Hats off to you. Well im glad i insured the freighter. Total loss to us was a crow and all that stuff in the freighter which you have already posted. Was a crazy ass mission and well lets just say we got a hell of a good fight out of it and I would deff do it again. That was one awsome night im glad you had the balls to keep coming at us even after the freighter blew. So what did we kill of yours that night?
I know my pilots all walked away with big grins after that and im guessing even all your pilots that died that night had big grins too.
We grin everytime we get a fight. We get cranky when enemy fleets 2 - 3 times our size sit in POS all day.

Btw, insurance on a Fenrir is about what, 240-250m ?
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Hakera
Anari Higard
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Posted - 2006.10.14 05:15:00 -
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Edited by: Hakera on 14/10/2006 05:20:17
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Now we are making topics about a killed freigther, omg 
sure there was an unwritten rule about putting a region in your alliance name 
the freighter is a worthwile kill, more than anything it kills logistical time which is the biggest blow to the enemy (time spent paying for the stuff, time spent getting it together and time spent hauling it all to delve). The guy was clearly trying to setup shop for some raiding in delve based out of npc stations there with a carrier support. BoB have prevented that, gaining much more than what they lost and inflicting massive inconvience and lost time damage on the enemy.
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Rift Scorn
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.14 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sha Kharn Yea good kill bob. Hats off to you. Well im glad i insured the freighter. Total loss to us was a crow and all that stuff in the freighter which you have already posted. Was a crazy ass mission and well lets just say we got a hell of a good fight out of it and I would deff do it again. That was one awsome night im glad you had the balls to keep coming at us even after the freighter blew. So what did we kill of yours that night?
I know my pilots all walked away with big grins after that and im guessing even all your pilots that died that night had big grins too.
Probabley one of the most accurate and succinct comments on that little tete-a-tete tbh.
Still my favourite bit was 24 hours before dropping 2 x CNR's on mightydwc's head Can't think why ....
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Xianthar
Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.14 06:14:00 -
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Good kill to BOB on the fenir, we tried to sneak it, your intel won.
I can't say i feel bad about it though, sha-k went 43 kills and 4 losses(including the freighter, 2 cepters and 1 dictor) on the night. (includes some fix kills too), props to the fix for jumping into us, as well as to bob for the night in general.
easily the most fun i've had FC'ing in eve in a long time.
keep the fun coming!
-xian
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.10.14 06:29:00 -
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Well another 4 ASCN freighters just went down the HED pipe...wonder where they were going...
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.14 07:06:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav Well another 4 ASCN freighters just went down the HED pipe...wonder where they were going...
Can you point me to some kb to get "picture" of it? Checked ASCN one and it doesn't show it or my eyes work bad...
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End Yourself
Core Domination
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Posted - 2006.10.14 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: NATMav Well another 4 ASCN freighters just went down the HED pipe...wonder where they were going...
Can you point me to some kb to get "picture" of it? Checked ASCN one and it doesn't show it or my eyes work bad...
My educated guess: go down as in travel "south" not as in BOOOM.
/me hands lukec a cup of coffee 
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.14 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: End Yourself
Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: NATMav Well another 4 ASCN freighters just went down the HED pipe...wonder where they were going...
Can you point me to some kb to get "picture" of it? Checked ASCN one and it doesn't show it or my eyes work bad...
My educated guess: go down as in travel "south" not as in BOOOM.
/me hands lukec a cup of coffee 
I'd appreciate coffee...
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DeadDuck
Amarr DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.14 09:48:00 -
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Can someone from Karn Empire/ASCN answer why the hell you dont use carriers to logistics ?.. errr is a bit quicker, safer and so on ... you may not transport the same amount of stuff in one trip but at least the cargo will reach the final destination 
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.14 09:54:00 -
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Too safely logistic with carriers n ****zle, you really need a POS up in the first place. Cynoing to an npc station in delve would just have resulted us in camping 24/7. ....
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Duke Kell
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.14 11:17:00 -
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So was that Moros a Trap as well?
and this is my main, so leave me alone forum mods.
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