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Sentinel Eeex
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.04 14:33:42 -
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You should make some more misleading graphs and statistics to justify ******** changes you've introduced with Phoebe. |
Boomstick SMD
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:15:40 -
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Mr Omniblivion wrote:Whoever is running and/or evaluating your data is not very good at it. You're looking at correlations and calling them causation. You're attributing things like increased activity in null to Phoebe, when in fact it is due to other factors such as the "this is eve" video and recruitment in nullsec in general. KarmaFleet alone has picked up several hundred players (hundreds more of characters) that were recruited from high sec and/or directly into null from Reddit.
This data does not show any causation based on Phoebe, and without realizing that, you're going to severely ruin the majority of nullsec.
This is the same company that seems to think BCs are in a "good place" because their overall generalized stats show a lot of BC dps (almost 100% soley from highsec suicide ganking in taloses), and that ishtars arn't imbalanced because people that are AFK die in them. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
759
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:27:43 -
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Nice shooting Tex.
"it's only because of their stupidity that they're able to be so sure of themselves."
The Trial - Franz Kafka-á
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Bob Niac
Joint Espionage and Defence Industries
Preatoriani
54
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Posted - 2015.03.04 16:41:20 -
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Fozzie:
Would you be able to add engagements to to those stats? Kills are all well and good, but battles are better, yeah?
ie: How many large engagements were there on a week to week trend?
Actually something easier to track:
How many kills were involved in where the deceased was less than a full squad? A wing? More than 2 wings?
How about metrics for the inverse as well?
I am interested in seeing where the metrics are
[u]I <3 Logistics:[/u] Pilot of all -áT2 logi and my shiny Archon [deceased.] Also a Chimera which may or may not be horrid.
I don't make games, I play them. I get that ppl are passionate about change. I post here to plant seeds. You see your idea as is? Holy **** you win! So let's post, and see what the DEVs and our peers use.
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
425
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Posted - 2015.03.04 19:09:53 -
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I asked Fozzie at Eve Vegas about why null ores are in such a horrible place at the moment, and mentioned that Arkonor is on par with Omber as the least valuable ore in the game.
His response? "We have a report that is run weekly that shows us the value". If it's on the same level of these reports, no wonder null ore anomalies haven't been fixed yet
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Styphon the Black
Forced Euthanasia
Soviet-Union
9
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Posted - 2015.03.04 19:32:31 -
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If they really wanted to increase the amount of PVP happening in Nullsec and to give the "little guy" a shot all that needs to happen is create some more NPC controlled systems in Null. Place them in the middle of large SOV areas. These "islands" of systems would give smaller corps and alliances a foothold in Null and a staging point to launch into SOV space. Obviously if these systems aren't created with enough entry and exit points into SOV space the larger controlling alliance could just camp the point of entry and close off the up start alliances access. Same problem if not enough space stations are available in those areas.
You can already see this in pirate controlled regions that more PVP happens in and around that space.
Regardless of this suggest it will not increase capital kills. No body is going to risk a capital if they think they are going to lose it. Too much of an investment. So large capital battles will continue to happen only between large alliance fleets. |
Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
427
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Posted - 2015.03.04 19:42:01 -
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I'm curious about what your reports told you about walking in stations |
Bowbndr
Twisted Metal Inc.
Northern Associates.
7
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Posted - 2015.03.05 01:37:49 -
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After reading through the dev blog and responses to it, as well as many other articles on these GÇ£Changes for GoodGÇ¥ CCP is forcing on everyone. I have said this over many of the past patches and everyone just says that the GÇ£care bears are crying againGÇ¥
Well letGÇÖs kill pap in this game for a little bit and see if you feel the same way. Every patch for the last 1.5 to 2 years has all been aimed at killing off Industry in eve. CCP says that a player can do anything in eve they wish, what they havent had the courage to say is that they are going to Kill industry in the game so you have to buy all your in game goods from them.
CCP claims that they are fair about their changes, and yet what was fair about making it so that hostiles no longer have to scan down grav sites? And when that was overcome with the use of drag bubbles m they make interceptors immune so they can still catch industrialists out in their mining barges and exhumers.
And all along they see no problem with a person flying or logging in a cloaky ship and closing down an entire system while they may or most likely are not even at the keyboard. If I disrupt anotherGÇÖs game play I get treats from CCP about banning my accounts, and yet they interfere with mine and CCP response is GÇ£oh thatGÇÖs a valid game tacticGÇ¥
CCP needs to learn and understand what the words fair and balance means before they kill their game completely.
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
1448
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Posted - 2015.03.05 23:15:17 -
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Phoebe changes were amayzing. Thank you.
The Tears Must Flow
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
458
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Posted - 2015.03.06 02:06:38 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Phoebe changes were amayzing. Thank you.
CCP wrote:http://content.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/66972/1/RegionalPVP.jpg
Deklein: -20%
I would have to agree |
Sir Meephunter
Brave Operations - Lollipop Division
Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2015.03.06 08:14:44 -
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RIP EVE after this. Cant wait until GOONS comes in and take all of NULL. But, we all think that this is what CCP wants
Why fix what is not broken?????
You can change,
1) How many ships use a cyno
2) Increase Jump Fatigue
3) Make Dreads reverent |
Kinis Deren
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
446
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Posted - 2015.03.07 14:58:02 -
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Thank you CCP Fozzie for a very interesting dev blog. The health of the game (not just null sec) is something I take an active interest in.
Some points worth bringing up (please see WTZ forum post linked above for graph explanations and data sources):
- Null sec population does indeed appear to have increased (even before Pheobe, probably as a consequence of post Rubicon changes) but seems to have peaked. Notice the apparent inverse relationship between the hi sec and null sec populations in this Graph 1 which seems to indicate that there's a degree of null sec players choosing character movement between the two sectors of space depending upon perceived need or risk.
- Population spikes are seen after a successful expansion/release implementation or oustanding marketing campaigns (This is EVE, in particular) as can be seen in this Graph 2. In particular, notice the very spiked hi sec kill data, possibly correlating with an influx of trial accounts or newbros. Furthermore, EVE participation is very seasonal (as can be seen in Graph 1 linked above). Generally speaking, we see a steady decline in player activity as the year progresses, only reversing the trend late in Q4. We therefore have to be very careful in judging how good, or bad, a change is to EVE by focusing on just the data without any seasonal effect adjustments. In many respects Pheobe was good for EVE especially as there didn't seem to be any signs of a "winter is coming" war on the horizon that might encourage greater player participation.
- This next Graph 3 attempts to normalise the monthly kill data using monthly average PCU (thank you to Chribba for providing the PCU data) and adjustment for population distribution too. You can indeed see a bump in PVP activity in null sec but low sec saw a much higher increase for the same Pheobe effect period. Mind you, this graph also highlights how badly null sec PVP activity has lagged behind low sec since approximately mid 2012.
- Unfortunately, the sov conquest data is rather misleading since it is well known that a lot of the data points represent some form of intra or inter-coalition tranfer activity. The big spike in sov conquests after Pheobe was largely down to a certain coalition selling the sov in the south and the new encumbents grinding down the structures without a fight.
In my humble opinion, Pheobe was a good first dose of medicine for a rather sick & tired null sec. Scylla and the sov changes will have a greater impact as a consequence of Pheobe.
Keep up the good work CCP, 2015 is shaping up to be a very interesting year for all EVE players.
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Aebe Amraen
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
120
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Posted - 2015.03.10 01:37:09 -
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So is this thread just being ignored?
I know the other dev blog resulted in a 180-page threadnaught, but it would be nice to at least get an acknowledgment, if not an answer, to the questions in this thread. |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
296
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Posted - 2015.03.10 23:40:18 -
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Aiyshimin wrote:
Then again, nobody in their right minds would have joined nullsec before Phoebe changes.
I disagree. As a matter of fact, many individuals and groups have sought taking their place in sovereign null before Phoebe release.
For instance, the history of EVE has seen at least six iterations of Triumvirate, the alliance you are a in, trying and ultimately failing to become a permanent part of the sovereign null. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6603
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Posted - 2015.03.10 23:47:21 -
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Alp Khan wrote:Aiyshimin wrote:Then again, nobody in their right minds would have joined nullsec before Phoebe changes. I disagree. As a matter of fact, many individuals and groups have sought taking their place in sovereign null before Phoebe release. For instance, the history of EVE has seen at least six iterations of Triumvirate, the alliance you are a in, trying and ultimately failing to become a permanent part of the sovereign null.
Maybe they were just sovtrolling?
Really didn't want that sov anyway?
Aebe Amraen wrote:So is this thread just being ignored?
I know the other dev blog resulted in a 180-page threadnaught, but it would be nice to at least get an acknowledgment, if not an answer, to the questions in this thread.
Did the 180-page threadnaught get anything either? I don't think so.
Perhaps if we shoot for 200 pages they will do something? Doubt it though.
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Mr Omniblivion
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
495
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Posted - 2015.03.11 01:55:31 -
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Fozzie, can we please see the report that CCP is utilizing to judge how effective ore distribution and ore values are?
I have a feeling that you're looking at (one unit of ore) value instead of (value per m3). |
Lastrites BeenGiven
Grumpy Pirates Association
Sanctuary Pact
0
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Posted - 2015.03.30 23:15:27 -
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Houston... I think we have a problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Damn Jim... I'm a Doctor... not a Eve subscriber. |
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