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Wylde Kardde
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.12 05:00:59 -
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I for one cannot wait to see where they go with these but I wanted to suggest a couple things that could make SKINs professionally integrated into EvE & streamlined instead of a random chameleon/spaceship update.
IMO skins should be about the NPC corps and their race's ships (their missions are geared toward NPC's race anyway) for ex: Caldari npc corps give missions that best suit Caldari player ships damage types etc. so their LP stores would sell skin licenses with their logo and possibly 2-3 different patterns of color & detail that only work on Caldari ships. So let's say you have a "Caldari Steel" licensed SKIN on while your Charon freighter is active - then decide to switch to an Amarr Apocalypse, the "Caldari Steel" skin would not appear on the Apoc since it's not Caldari. Any Amarr licenses you've applied to your character can now be viewed & chosen for the Apocalypse or any Amarr ship you have.
The SKIN licenses you acquire through the game and apply to your character should be arranged in the ui window by race and possibly a universal tab under them with some basic colors & patterns useable regardless of your ship or standings as well as an option to show your current player corp icon (if checked in a tiny box your player corp logo would replace any npc corp logo from other skins therefore keeping any camo/patterns etc).
Ever wanted one of the Tech 2 ship color patterns for a tech 1 or 3? Well here you go Tier 2 SKINs. These licenses changes ship lights/window colors as well however it would need to have a timer like maybe a week for the expensive option & a cheaper 48hour version. This would keep them sparse and valuable. To refresh it you would need to either have high standings and buy from it's LP store, re-apply to character starting the new timer or if you have no standing buy from market. In practice: Suppose I isk blitz lvl 4s regularly for "Boundless Creation" (minmatar) with my vargur then my player corp buddies want to fleet up and pvp roam every night this week, I could apply a 7day Tier 2 SKIN & hop in my Tornado or Typhoon etc and they will now have the option of Boundless' version (camo paint, BC's logo, & neon-orange windows/lights). Obviously if you fly a Tech 2 ship from that same R&D corp like a Vargur or Slepnir the timer would be wasted since their appearance wouldn't change at all. Which leads me to the next part.
Tech 2 ships can still use a tier 2 skin from a different npc corp and have it's appearance altered which to some people may seem upsetting (seeing what u thaught was a Caldari Rook just use a cloak and vanished actually was a Falcon with a Kaalakiota tier 2 skin) getting confused about what they're seeing if they attempt to identify visually what they're up against & are fooled into thinking it's a different ship. Not to worry since in local it will still say the actual name of the ship and a quick info check if your still scratching your head would provide the actual ship, it's stats, and it's SKIN-less preview photo.
Pirate faction SKINs would always be tier 2 licenses (with timers) to keep rarity and prevent mass use. Angel Cartel & Sansha skins could be the old colors they had in the past but would only work among their lineup of unique ships (angel skin only changes their Jovian style ships etc). However Blood Raider, Guristas, and Serpentis skins would still work with all their race's ships (think gurista Rohk, Serpentis Eos, Blood LegionT3) as well as Mordus Legion having a similar sleek matte blue matching their new models for use with any Caldari ships. The actual pirate faction ships (Bhaalgorn,Vindi,rattlesnake,etc) would still be rare and expensive because of their bonuses even though people could create an identical looking ships with the Tier 2 skins and tech 1 ships.
Sorry for the book I wrote here, would this stuff if implemented make people who want skins happier? There's a lot of NPC corporations and their LP stores right now seem for the most part identical under each faction. With this system each npc corp will have something interesting to offer & mess around with. Remember player corps could use ANY of them just by selecting to use your logo as explained earlier. Let me know what you guys think. |
Arthur Aihaken
X A X
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Posted - 2015.03.12 05:31:13 -
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Honestly, at this point I'd just like more skins. Particularly the battleship ones...
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden
Workers Trade Federation
245
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Posted - 2015.03.12 08:28:42 -
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EoM Apocalypse
Blood Raider Paladin
That is all EVE needs to be complete. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.12 10:08:06 -
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oh god. do we get to skin marauders? oh dude...
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
79
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Posted - 2015.03.12 10:08:46 -
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I'm really up for Bhaalgorn "poossy wagon" edition. Gonna be shexy... |
Wylde Kardde
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.12 11:41:02 -
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Rain6637 wrote:oh god. do we get to skin marauders? oh dude...
Anything would be able to change skin if they go about it the way I proposed. You could have a Golem with Caldari navy camo or whatever you like ..bottom line being that graphical differences between T1 & T2 ships will not be in the skin (a Raven with Lai Dai skin would not have the unique design changes of the Tech2 Golem which also has Lai Dai paint). Only texture and lights is what I suggested since that wouldn't be hard to integrate into the game. |
Promiscuous Medusa
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:05:58 -
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First they need to make it a mod. Even one thats destroyed on removal. Current system is too clunky and makes an utter mess of the marketplace. |
Arthur Aihaken
X A X
4112
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:08:32 -
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Promiscuous Medusa wrote:First they need to make it a mod. Even one thats destroyed on removal. Current system is too clunky and makes an utter mess of the marketplace.
I believe they're working on it,
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs
Jovian Enterprises
17756
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:25:47 -
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Promiscuous Medusa wrote:First they need to make it a mod. Even one thats destroyed on removal. Current system is too clunky and makes an utter mess of the marketplace.
Might want to read this --> http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/a-glimpse-into-the-future-of-ship-skins/
I hope it comes through soon- I would love to have that level of options and customization for my ships 
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Mehrune Khan
Viziam
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:32:20 -
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I would really like to see the Myrmidon get a Guristas skin so I can have the skull with rabbit ears decal on it. There's a little space on the top and bottom fins for a decal, as well on the "prongs" on the sides that have the drone pods - there is some room right under the drone pods for a decal too. I realize it might not fit into lore very well since it's not really a pirate faction ship, but it would look cool. At least it would look better than most of the Gallente corp decals, which all look boring. Like Poteque. I don't think anyone wants a brown circle on their ship.
While I like the idea of skins becoming simple to use I wouldn't want them to use the same mod slots used by mods that increase stats. Maybe they could give all ships a single skin mod slot just for ship skins? Just my two cents. |
Wylde Kardde
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:53:05 -
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Promiscuous Medusa wrote:First they need to make it a mod. Even one thats destroyed on removal. Current system is too clunky and makes an utter mess of the marketplace.
I agree that the current version of paint on live is not working efficiently. special edition ships and versions are crowding the market as well as being scarcely used because it shows up in local that your in "quafe edition vexor" or something, being a juicy target and embarrassing to see in a killmail. I personally won't use any paint that is in game now, but if u read this:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/a-glimpse-into-the-future-of-ship-skins/
it will explain that CCP understand this. My suggestions are only additions/ideas for their new S.K.I.N. System they are developing now to replace the defunct one that is on live. |
Leyete Wulf
Rolling Static
Gone Critical
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Posted - 2015.03.12 13:29:24 -
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I just want to know if the skins we already own (blood raider prophecy, gurista ferox, kador abbadon, etc) are going to be converted, how that will work, and when. I'm especially interested in the ones bought from the current NEX pool and what sort of attributes the SKIN will have if they are converted. |
Wylde Kardde
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.12 20:26:48 -
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Leyete Wulf wrote:I just want to know if the skins we already own (blood raider prophecy, gurista ferox, kador abbadon, etc) are going to be converted, how that will work, and when. I'm especially interested in the ones bought from the current NEX pool and what sort of attributes the SKIN will have if they are converted.
I would hope that the nex store S.K.I.N licenses would be unique and creative but not trumping everything else. If CCP considered this thread It would create a less stale atmosphere, new trends would appear, expanded markets for LP flippers. Every ship would have around 50 possible SKINs from its racial origin. I doubt anyone would fly skinless or baseline anymore after 11+ years of the same old color hulls time and time again. |
Arthur Aihaken
X A X
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Posted - 2015.03.12 20:49:12 -
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Leyete Wulf wrote:I just want to know if the skins we already own (blood raider prophecy, gurista ferox, kador abbadon, etc) are going to be converted, how that will work, and when. I'm especially interested in the ones bought from the current NEX pool and what sort of attributes the SKIN will have if they are converted.
CCP has indicated that they will, but hasn't provided any details or specifics.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
868
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Posted - 2015.03.12 21:35:46 -
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Just let me make my own
But with how these have been implemented I doubt the marketing department would ever let me cheaply fly under the same colors worth my corp anyway
Fuel block colors? Missiles for Caldari T3?
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Arthur Aihaken
X A X
4119
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:57:00 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:Just let me make my own
Wouldn't we all go cuckoo for cocoa puffs if they implemented that...
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Brawlers Inc.
1507
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Posted - 2015.03.13 01:09:40 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:EoM Apocalypse
Blood Raider Paladin
That is all EVE needs to be complete.
You mean something like these?
http://i.imgur.com/tlokYzZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/H2yVWW2.png
I still want one of these: http://screencast.com/t/v9gpib3PH
Or how bout a police cynabal? http://imgur.com/J1eqMm9
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IBISWARS
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.03.13 06:36:34 -
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What about LP or RP used as a % discount token to be used for AUR for a particular fraction. |
Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force
A T O N E M E N T
645
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Posted - 2015.03.15 03:19:23 -
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The current upcoming system looks good. However they do need permenant skins from the lp store. That way some are bought. Some are earned through missions, exploration etc |
Aston Martin DB5
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.15 04:48:34 -
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Promiscuous Medusa wrote:First they need to make it a mod. Even one thats destroyed on removal. Current system is too clunky and makes an utter mess of the marketplace.
Already testing it on sisi?
Sweeeeeeeet. |
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