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Leannor
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:24:40 -
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HI,
Looking for advice for an EVE-Build pc. I know how to build a PC, just not sure on which are the best parts for the job. DonGÇÖt wanna spend too much and go overkill GÇô but equally donGÇÖt wanna spend to little and get stuck with something not powerful enough and not upgradable.
IGÇÖd like the PC to be able to run 3-4 accounts, at quality optimal, and not drag in normal use. Besides that, just normal Office 10 and browsing. No other hi-spec gaming.
Can anyone recommend combinations of m-Boards, CPU, quantity of RAM, cases, and power units that are good? Would probably like to include a dvd or bluray writer so a few connectors.
Any links and suggestions please? Brands to go for, and avoid maybe? Aiming somewhere imbetween 500-1000 for the entire build (including the stuff not mentioned above).
"Lykouleon wrote:
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Lan Wang
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:33:34 -
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i7 processor and gtx 970 gfx card \o/
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2Sonas1Cup
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Posted - 2015.03.12 12:46:24 -
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4790k z97 pro gtx970 rm850 fractal r5 evo 240 wd 1tb 8 hyper x beast evo 212
Just type each one of these on google and there you go. |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.03.12 13:02:01 -
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I like to replace case fans with Arctic case fans ($7 apiece) because they are super-quiet.
Don't forget keyboard, mouse, screen... and good thermal paste for installing that CPU heatsink.
For more than 2 monitors you'll probably have to get 2 graphics cards and SLI them.
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bloodknight2
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.12 13:05:05 -
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I'm running 3 accounts with an I5 3450, geforce GTX 770 and 16gb. Everything is maxed.
Are you playing only Eve? If not, maybe you should spend a little bit more to be safe for the next 2-3 years. |
Agent Known
Night Theifs
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Posted - 2015.03.12 13:07:17 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:I like to replace case fans with Arctic case fans ($7 apiece) because they are super-quiet.
Don't forget keyboard, mouse, screen... and good thermal paste for installing that CPU heatsink.
For more than 2 monitors you'll probably have to get 2 graphics cards and SLI them.
A lot of the modern ones (for example, any Nvidia GTX 600+ ...don't go for the cheapo PNY ones!) can support up to the number of outputs they have for monitors. Unfortunately my 460 doesn't support all 3... |
Incindir Mauser
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
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Posted - 2015.03.12 13:43:31 -
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The Tandy TRS80 is the obvious choice here. |
Anta Isimazu
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.12 14:15:57 -
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^ +1
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Leoric Firesword
Rolling Static Gone Critical
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Posted - 2015.03.12 14:25:51 -
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run down to the local grocery store, see that potato? no, not that one, the one on the right of it.
there ya go! |
Black Drake
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Posted - 2015.03.12 14:26:38 -
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Lan Wang wrote:i7 processor and gtx 970 gfx card \o/
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Kousaka Otsu Shigure
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Posted - 2015.03.12 15:34:31 -
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I used to run 8 accounts on a E8200 core2duo, 4gb, radeon4600series.. and still be able to watch youtube vids off the net.
So maybe get an energy efficient build like: i3-4160 nvdia 750Ti 2x 4gb ddr3
A recently concluded System Builder Marathon down at Tom's Hardware has a budget build that you might like, check it out: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-budget-gaming-pc,4065.html
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Alice Saki
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.12 16:20:35 -
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A Toaster will play Eve just use Low Detail and my god don't go into the Captains quarters ;)
FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - All I want from Xmas is YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Altirius Saldiaro
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.03.12 16:38:52 -
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www.pcpartpicker.com
Build what ever setup you want. That site will not only tell you if a part is not compatible with others in the build, it will give you listings of best prices with coupon codes too. It'll even show you bundle deals if 2 or more of your parts are on sale at like tigerdirect or newegg.
That is my favorite site to use. My last two builds I used that site. It's like the Pyfa/EFT/Osmium of computer building. |
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2015.03.12 18:16:33 -
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Leannor wrote:HI,
Looking for advice for an EVE-Build pc. I know how to build a PC, just not sure on which are the best parts for the job. DonGÇÖt wanna spend too much and go overkill GÇô but equally donGÇÖt wanna spend to little and get stuck with something not powerful enough and not upgradable.
IGÇÖd like the PC to be able to run 3-4 accounts, at quality optimal, and not drag in normal use. Besides that, just normal Office 10 and browsing. No other hi-spec gaming.
Can anyone recommend combinations of m-Boards, CPU, quantity of RAM, cases, and power units that are good? Would probably like to include a dvd or bluray writer so a few connectors.
Any links and suggestions please? Brands to go for, and avoid maybe? Aiming somewhere imbetween 500-1000 for the entire build (including the stuff not mentioned above). I can run 10 accounts on an e7200 with 8 GB ddr3 and a hd 5770 on low settings.... Any decent gaming machine built in the last 7 years should easily run eve. Any well built gaming machine in the last 10 years should be able to run it fine.
Running 8 accounts on 4 GB of ram results in a LOT of usage of your pagefile. You'll probably kill the hard drive your page file is on after a year or so. I used to run 11 clients on the e7200 with 4 GB of ram while using isboxer's resource management options. The old (160 GB ATA 100 from long ago) hard drive I was using as a page file ended up dying after about 10 months of that abuse.
A build for 500 is a world of a difference from a build for 1000 btw. For 1000 you're looking at ddr4 and intel but for 500 you're probably going to be stuck with ddr3 and AMD. Needs such as monitors keyboard etc will of course change that. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.03.12 18:25:12 -
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I keep seeing that posted all over the place, and ill admit that it made me smile, but it doesn't change my mind about the 970. Ive had it (EVGA GTX970 FTW+) for awhile now and used it to replace my GTX660ti (also a fantastic card btw), and ive never had any problems with it aside from a bad driver that NVidia pushed out (but that was easily handled with a rollback). Its been great and I regularly use it to run 2 accounts on high with no issues.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
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ashley Eoner
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Posted - 2015.03.12 18:35:01 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I keep seeing that posted all over the place, and ill admit that it made me smile, but it doesn't change my mind about the 970. Ive had it (EVGA GTX970 FTW+) for awhile now and used it to replace my GTX660ti (also a fantastic card btw), and ive never had any problems with it aside from a bad driver that NVidia pushed out (but that was easily handled with a rollback). Its been great and I regularly use it to run 2 accounts on high with no issues. The 970 is a fantastic card for the money. If the rest of your system is so hardcore that you need that last 500mb of video ram then you're clearly looking at the wrong card anyway.
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.03.12 18:50:08 -
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If you are a penny pincher it could be argued the 970 is overkill for Eve, I am running a 660 and it runs 4 accounts all on high just fine.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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ashley Eoner
457
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Posted - 2015.03.12 19:09:03 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:If you are a penny pincher it could be argued the 970 is overkill for Eve, I am running a 660 and it runs 4 accounts all on high just fine. It's not even an argument. The 970 is way overkill. You can run 4 accounts on high at 1080 with a card half the price. |
ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells Beer needs you
425
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Posted - 2015.03.12 19:20:19 -
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Intel 4790k MSI gaming 7 z97 16gb ram gtx780 Samsung 840 ssd 2 monitors win7 64bit ultimate
You only-árealise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.
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Alena McJenkins
McJenkins' Saucy Shipwreckers LLC
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Posted - 2015.03.12 23:41:03 -
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Bam.
Sauce.
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.03.13 00:48:13 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:If you are a penny pincher it could be argued the 970 is overkill for Eve, I am running a 660 and it runs 4 accounts all on high just fine. It's not even an argument. The 970 is way overkill. You can run 4 accounts on high at 1080 with a card half the price. Yeah I figured as much, just haven't educated myself enough to speak with your confidence.
Just thought I would mention it as reading through the thread seemed to indicate 970 was necessary.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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ashley Eoner
457
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Posted - 2015.03.13 02:17:49 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:ashley Eoner wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:If you are a penny pincher it could be argued the 970 is overkill for Eve, I am running a 660 and it runs 4 accounts all on high just fine. It's not even an argument. The 970 is way overkill. You can run 4 accounts on high at 1080 with a card half the price. Yeah I figured as much, just haven't educated myself enough to speak with your confidence. Just thought I would mention it as reading through the thread seemed to indicate 970 was necessary. Indeed being cautious in that situation is a smart move. I have a variety of hardware combos in my house though.
If you're in a massive fight like BR then you'll have issues running one client on high at 1080 but not solely because of the graphics card. Eve will be hitting your hard drive(s) and subsystems hard. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.13 03:02:37 -
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Literally almost any Intel pre-built PC with a $200 video card will do what you want...
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ashley Eoner
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Posted - 2015.03.13 04:03:04 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Literally almost any Intel pre-built PC with a $200 video card will do what you want...
...and if you want fast load times in EVE, buy a 32-64GB SSD drive. Even the built in intel HD graphics is generally "good enough".
Gotta +infinity the SSD comment though. They are cheap these days so if you're serious about gaming you should consider at least a 120 GB model (under 100$ and a huge boost to performance overall). |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
2221
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Posted - 2015.03.13 04:32:28 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Literally almost any Intel pre-built PC with a $200 video card will do what you want...
...and if you want fast load times in EVE, buy a 32-64GB SSD drive. Even the built in intel HD graphics is generally "good enough". Gotta +infinity the SSD comment though. They are cheap these days so if you're serious about gaming you should consider at least a 120 GB model (under 100$ and a huge boost to performance overall). Intel HD is" good enough" to show a picture, but I strongly believe you need a little more power with 4+ clients...unless OP doesn't mind the lowest settings.
Also, if it's just for EVE (in reality there's more games.) Then a smallish SSD is all you really need. With a pre-built machine, is just a plug and install all games there idea. Since OP won't be playing massively large games that require 50+GB (GTA V: constantly delayed editionGäó) and more smaller install sized games a bigger SSD isn't all needed. But a 120GB isn't bad, but manufacturer depending a 32-64GB model is what...........$40
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ashley Eoner
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Posted - 2015.03.13 19:33:18 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:ashley Eoner wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Literally almost any Intel pre-built PC with a $200 video card will do what you want...
...and if you want fast load times in EVE, buy a 32-64GB SSD drive. Even the built in intel HD graphics is generally "good enough". Gotta +infinity the SSD comment though. They are cheap these days so if you're serious about gaming you should consider at least a 120 GB model (under 100$ and a huge boost to performance overall). Intel HD is" good enough" to show a picture, but I strongly believe you need a little more power with 4+ clients...unless OP doesn't mind the lowest settings. Also, if it's just for EVE (in reality there's more games.) Then a smallish SSD is all you really need. With a pre-built machine, is just a plug and install all games there idea. Since OP won't be playing massively large games that require 50+GB (GTA V: constantly delayed editionGäó) and more smaller install sized games a bigger SSD isn't all needed. But a 120GB isn't bad, but manufacturer depending a 32-64GB model is what...........$40 I said "good enough" not "good enough to run at 4k with 4 clients at max graphics" not "good enough to blow away anything else". "good enough" meaning "good enough to run the game". That's a huge step up from the time when integrated graphics was barely good enough to run the GUI of windows. Having said that the HD 6000 graphics is as good as a dedicated graphics card when setup properly. The newer version of the HD graphics under the name Iris can run battlefield 3 at 1080p with high settings so I'm sure it could handle 4 eve clients with the proper hardware to back it up (ram mobo etc).
You can get a solid 240 GB SSD for $100 at newegg right this moment. It'd be unintelligent to buy a smaller SSD to save a little money when you could get the bigger one and have ALL your stuff be many times faster loading. Loading into desktop from a cold start in 4 seconds is no joke. 32 GB drive won't fit much other than the OS. |
WhyYouHeffToBeMad IsOnlyGame
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Posted - 2015.03.13 19:36:42 -
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Lan Wang wrote:i7 processor and gtx 970 gfx card \o/ i7 is overkill even for high demand shooters. drop down to i5 and you're at the right place.
as for the card, I'd say even a 4GiB GTX 960 would do the job perfectly.
for comparison, I'm running 3 clients with an i5 2500 and a GTX 770 2GiB and the 3 run at around 60 FPS like.
Everything's a game if you make it one - Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase
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Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
2221
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:06:23 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:ashley Eoner wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Literally almost any Intel pre-built PC with a $200 video card will do what you want...
...and if you want fast load times in EVE, buy a 32-64GB SSD drive. Even the built in intel HD graphics is generally "good enough". Gotta +infinity the SSD comment though. They are cheap these days so if you're serious about gaming you should consider at least a 120 GB model (under 100$ and a huge boost to performance overall). Intel HD is" good enough" to show a picture, but I strongly believe you need a little more power with 4+ clients...unless OP doesn't mind the lowest settings. Also, if it's just for EVE (in reality there's more games.) Then a smallish SSD is all you really need. With a pre-built machine, is just a plug and install all games there idea. Since OP won't be playing massively large games that require 50+GB (GTA V: constantly delayed editionGäó) and more smaller install sized games a bigger SSD isn't all needed. But a 120GB isn't bad, but manufacturer depending a 32-64GB model is what...........$40 I said "good enough" not "good enough to run at 4k with 4 clients at max graphics" not "good enough to blow away anything else". "good enough" meaning "good enough to run the game". That's a huge step up from the time when integrated graphics was barely good enough to run the GUI of windows. Having said that the HD 6000 graphics is as good as a lower end dedicated graphics card when setup properly. The newer version of the HD graphics under the name Iris can run battlefield 3 at 1080p with high settings so I'm sure it could handle 4 eve clients with the proper hardware to back it up (ram mobo etc). You can get a solid 240 GB SSD for $100 at newegg right this moment. It'd be unintelligent to buy a smaller SSD to save a little money when you could get the bigger one and have ALL your stuff be many times faster loading. Loading into desktop from a cold start in 4 seconds is no joke. 32 GB drive won't fit much other than the OS.
Yes, I get that Intel HD chips are better then before (never knew they were BF4 capable better.) I usually always avoid on-board video because, well let's face it, a few years ago I'd never settle for lower then 1080,and now I'll never settle for lower then 4k. So, on-board I'll continue to ignore...
I just spat out a lower number based on the OP stated requirements. Which is " 4 clients of EVE only........maybe OS and random programs." No other requirements noted, therefore, pre-built rig with aftermarket dedicated video. Adding a SSD is optional, and still is, I enjoy a nice 3 second boot time myself, but other people don't really mind a 15-20 second boot time. So with a standard pre-built machine with the OS preloaded, the SSD would be an optional upgrade, and since the OP stated it would be for "EVE use only (game wise)" then a disk size required for the job is all that's needed. Sure, some people might like a little wiggle room. But that's literally user dependant.
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ashley Eoner
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:24:29 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:ashley Eoner wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:ashley Eoner wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:Literally almost any Intel pre-built PC with a $200 video card will do what you want...
...and if you want fast load times in EVE, buy a 32-64GB SSD drive. Even the built in intel HD graphics is generally "good enough". Gotta +infinity the SSD comment though. They are cheap these days so if you're serious about gaming you should consider at least a 120 GB model (under 100$ and a huge boost to performance overall). Intel HD is" good enough" to show a picture, but I strongly believe you need a little more power with 4+ clients...unless OP doesn't mind the lowest settings. Also, if it's just for EVE (in reality there's more games.) Then a smallish SSD is all you really need. With a pre-built machine, is just a plug and install all games there idea. Since OP won't be playing massively large games that require 50+GB (GTA V: constantly delayed editionGäó) and more smaller install sized games a bigger SSD isn't all needed. But a 120GB isn't bad, but manufacturer depending a 32-64GB model is what...........$40 I said "good enough" not "good enough to run at 4k with 4 clients at max graphics" not "good enough to blow away anything else". "good enough" meaning "good enough to run the game". That's a huge step up from the time when integrated graphics was barely good enough to run the GUI of windows. Having said that the HD 6000 graphics is as good as a lower end dedicated graphics card when setup properly. The newer version of the HD graphics under the name Iris can run battlefield 3 at 1080p with high settings so I'm sure it could handle 4 eve clients with the proper hardware to back it up (ram mobo etc). You can get a solid 240 GB SSD for $100 at newegg right this moment. It'd be unintelligent to buy a smaller SSD to save a little money when you could get the bigger one and have ALL your stuff be many times faster loading. Loading into desktop from a cold start in 4 seconds is no joke. 32 GB drive won't fit much other than the OS. Yes, I get that Intel HD chips are better then before (never knew they were BF4 capable better.) I usually always avoid on-board video because, well let's face it, a few years ago I'd never settle for lower then 1080,and now I'll never settle for lower then 4k. So, on-board I'll continue to ignore... I just spat out a lower number based on the OP stated requirements. Which is " 4 clients of EVE only........maybe OS and random programs." No other requirements noted, therefore, pre-built rig with aftermarket dedicated video. Adding a SSD is optional, and still is, I enjoy a nice 3 second boot time myself, but other people don't really mind a 15-20 second boot time. So with a standard pre-built machine with the OS preloaded, the SSD would be an optional upgrade, and since the OP stated it would be for "EVE use only (game wise)" then a disk size required for the job is all that's needed. Sure, some people might like a little wiggle room. But that's literally user dependant. It might start with "eve only" but in my experience rarely does it actually stay there.
Planning for the future is always a good idea when building a system. That future tends to include stuff you never expected like getting hooked on an AAA title that just came out. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
2222
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Posted - 2015.03.13 21:13:47 -
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Preaching to the choir m8!
But, not everyone thinks like that. When OP says "Just EVE" OP might actually mean "just EVE!"
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