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Posted - 2015.03.17 11:49:29 -
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CCP did say a few years ago at fanfest that the back end was already in place to put pirate factions into FW.
As for those saying it would cause too much trouble to the pirate ship/implant market, that is easily solved. Don't give them a FW store or have very limited items in it. RP: they are not one of the big empires, therefore they don't have the industrial infrastructure (at least in empire space) to do the same as NPC empire militias. |
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Posted - 2015.03.17 13:53:37 -
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Lan Wang wrote:S810 Jr wrote:CCP did say a few years ago at fanfest that the back end was already in place to put pirate factions into FW.
As for those saying it would cause too much trouble to the pirate ship/implant market, that is easily solved. Don't give them a FW store or have very limited items in it. RP: they are not one of the big empires, therefore they don't have the industrial infrastructure (at least in empire space) to do the same as NPC empire militias. but would this then be different lp to the mission lp? if your restricting you would need to have a seperate lp currecy for missions and fw, tbh it wouldnt sound fair because why should a carebear earn more for less risk than a fw'er?
Current FW LP is only used in the NPC Militia corp LP store. Which you can also get by running missions for the NPC corp. So I don't get what you're picking at.
If you are in a pirate faction, you are a pirate. Make your ISK from your loot, not from orbiting a button in space and shooting NPCs. I.e. don't have a LP store for pirate factions would be my favourite idea. |
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Posted - 2015.03.17 14:18:07 -
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Nameira Vanis-Tor wrote:S810 Jr wrote:Lan Wang wrote:S810 Jr wrote:CCP did say a few years ago at fanfest that the back end was already in place to put pirate factions into FW.
As for those saying it would cause too much trouble to the pirate ship/implant market, that is easily solved. Don't give them a FW store or have very limited items in it. RP: they are not one of the big empires, therefore they don't have the industrial infrastructure (at least in empire space) to do the same as NPC empire militias. but would this then be different lp to the mission lp? if your restricting you would need to have a seperate lp currecy for missions and fw, tbh it wouldnt sound fair because why should a carebear earn more for less risk than a fw'er? Current FW LP is only used in the NPC Militia corp LP store. Which you can also get by running missions for the NPC corp. So I don't get what you're picking at. If you are in a pirate faction, you are a pirate. Make your ISK from your loot, not from orbiting a button in space and shooting NPCs. I.e. don't have a LP store for pirate factions would be my favourite idea. Unfortunately that would probably mean the extinction of Pirate Faction Ships, as that is where they originate from by and large.
Pirate Faction ships originate from something that currently DOES NOT EXIST in the game? - a pirate NPC FW LP store.
The whole point of NOT having a pirate NPC FW LP store would be that bringing the pirate factions into FW would not change anything in the current way care bears bring pirate faction ships, mods, implants to market.
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Posted - 2015.03.17 16:38:47 -
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Why must bringing Pirate Militias into FW be about making ISK? CCP has said it needs more ISK sinks every year. Pirate Militias (with no FW LP store) would act as one.
And who cares about newbies being able to earn ISK to be in FW, that is what the empire militias are already for, so why do it again?
From CCP's RP spin they can make a video about disheartened capsuleers joining forces with the pirate factions to fight the empires.
You know any disheartened capsuleers? I sure do. They are the ones with already skilled accounts that are not subbed to Eve anymore. Give them a reason to come back that isn't shooting just NPCs all day making ISK they don't need or being an F1 0.0 monkey that prays they are not the one who is going to be the next primary and alpha'd by 100's of other F1 0.0 monkeys. |
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Posted - 2015.03.17 16:52:48 -
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Lan Wang wrote:S810 Jr wrote:Why must bringing Pirate Militias into FW be about making ISK? CCP has said it needs more ISK sinks every year. Pirate Militias (with no FW LP store) would act as one.
And who cares about newbies being able to earn ISK to be in FW, that is what the empire militias are already for, so why do it again?
From CCP's RP spin they can make a video about disheartened capsuleers joining forces with the pirate factions to fight the empires.
You know any disheartened capsuleers? I sure do. They are the ones with already skilled accounts that are not subbed to Eve anymore. Give them a reason to come back that isn't shooting just NPCs all day making ISK they don't need or being an F1 0.0 monkey that prays they are not the one who is going to be the next primary and alpha'd by 100's of other F1 0.0 monkeys. because people need to make isk to cover ships they lose pvping otherwise it just pointless being involved for anything else other than rp
Alts or PLEX? |
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Posted - 2015.03.18 00:44:10 -
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Do any of you even remember what FW was like when it 1st came out? Before the ISK printing with a 1 day old alt?
Before the multiple changes to how the tier bonuses worked
Before the navy domi
Before LP for defending plexs
The 1st version of FW had 1000s of players joining the militias some for RP, some for pvp, some for both.
When it started it wasn't about making ISK, you can do that in every other part of eve.
You DO know that not everyone in low sec who PvPs needs to make ISK from FW right? Seeing as they've done it since before FW was even on some dev's whiteboard.
So if you think that there would be no uptake to pirate militias that have no FW store and only thing they can gain is bragging rights over empire militias by capturing systems from them, well you don't know much about eve players. |
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Posted - 2015.03.18 10:51:13 -
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I was in FW in version 1, yes the mechanics were broken (perma jammed by NPCs meant you could plex when even a crappy T1 fitted alt could just plink you to death over time while you just sat there scrammed, webbed, jammed) but the warzone wasn't immediately captured as you've been told. When Gallente decided to stop plexing - as you lost nothing back then with no station lockouts - and focused fully on fleet fights is when the warzone was captured. And those fleets are what many call the golden age of FW because you had fun fighting other players. |
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