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Asmodia
SPECTRE Syndicate
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Posted - 2015.03.14 20:39:50 -
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Elena Thiesant wrote:
Mining and 'huge amount of ISK' don't belong in the same sentence. Mining is very, very, very low income, especially with low skills. Seriously, just stop now and take the skills out of your skill queue (unless you actually do enjoy mining, which is not the impression I get)
Highsec exploration is probably better, even though it's random. Lowsec exploration is almost certainly better. Almost anything in fact is better than mining (especially if you keep getting retrievers ganked)
As for a goal, lots of ISK isn't really a long-term goal. What do you plan to do with that ISK?
I make 30 Million ISK per hour only mining in high sec with my Hulk and Orca.
http://ore.cerlestes.de/#site:ore
maybe you should have a look on the current ore prices.
OH, I never got ganked in my life.
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J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5970
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:01:39 -
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Asmodia wrote:Elena Thiesant wrote:
Mining and 'huge amount of ISK' don't belong in the same sentence. Mining is very, very, very low income, especially with low skills. Seriously, just stop now and take the skills out of your skill queue (unless you actually do enjoy mining, which is not the impression I get)
Highsec exploration is probably better, even though it's random. Lowsec exploration is almost certainly better. Almost anything in fact is better than mining (especially if you keep getting retrievers ganked)
As for a goal, lots of ISK isn't really a long-term goal. What do you plan to do with that ISK?
I make 30 Million ISK per hour only mining in high sec with my Hulk and Orca. http://ore.cerlestes.de/#site:ore maybe you should have a look on the current ore prices. OH, I never got ganked in my life.
Sorry, but 30 mil / hour is NOT much.
Specially if you consider that you are using 2 accounts for that (15 mil / hour / account), which any mission runner can easily multiply by much with just 1 account.
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Asmodia
SPECTRE Syndicate
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:12:35 -
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J'Poll wrote:
Sorry, but 30 mil / hour is NOT much.
Specially if you consider that you are using 2 accounts for that (15 mil / hour / account), which any mission runner can easily multiply by much with just 1 account.
And what high sec mission this are ? Level 5 ? - Mining is something you can watch movies. - I never heard that level 4 missions make 30 millions per hour. Only with 1 b equiment maybe. - Do not worry. My Orca pilot runs missions for fun. BUt I need to fix my Amarr standings first. -5,9 |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5970
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Posted - 2015.03.14 21:17:10 -
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Asmodia wrote:J'Poll wrote:
Sorry, but 30 mil / hour is NOT much.
Specially if you consider that you are using 2 accounts for that (15 mil / hour / account), which any mission runner can easily multiply by much with just 1 account.
And what high sec mission this are ? Level 5 ? - Mining is something you can watch movies. - I never heard that level 4 missions make 30 millions per hour. Only with 1 b equiment maybe. - Do not worry. My Orca pilot runs missions for fun. BUt I need to fix my Amarr standings first. -5,9
If you blitz L4s you can be up and above that 30 mil / hour easily (also taken into account the LP conversion). EDIT: And that is all done with a setup which is not even near 1 bil worth (at time of purchase)
And WHY would I want you want to a watch a movie while playing a game.
You either want to play a game...or watch a movie, not both. THAT is the most ridiculous reasoning I've ever seen, but heh...high-sec bears...what would I have expected.
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Alexa Miasmata
Martyr's Vengence
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Posted - 2015.03.15 02:52:35 -
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J'Poll wrote:
And WHY would I want you want to a watch a movie while playing a game.
You either want to play a game...or watch a movie, not both. THAT is the most ridiculous reasoning I've ever seen, but heh...high-sec bears...what would I have expected.
Both mining and mission running is so boring I wouldn't really qualify it as playing. I think what he meant to say with "you can watch a movie meanwhile" was something a long the lines of, if youre watching a movie, while not afk mine at the same time and get some ISK? |
Asmodia
SPECTRE Syndicate
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Posted - 2015.03.15 03:57:13 -
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Alexa Miasmata wrote:J'Poll wrote:
And WHY would I want you want to a watch a movie while playing a game.
You either want to play a game...or watch a movie, not both. THAT is the most ridiculous reasoning I've ever seen, but heh...high-sec bears...what would I have expected.
Both mining and mission running is so boring I wouldn't really qualify it as playing. I think what he meant to say with "you can watch a movie meanwhile" was something a long the lines of, if youre watching a movie, while not afk mine at the same time and get some ISK?
Yeah. I play EVE since 2003 an had a long break. I came back and was happy to see that Veldspar is more worth then Arkonor. I mine and read forum, YT Guides and stuff. - I build freigthers for fun atm. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
4678
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Posted - 2015.03.15 05:54:14 -
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Since the topic was brought up ...
For the math geeks:
Per Cycle Chance to Salvage With N Drones = 1 - (1 - Chance to Salvage With One Drone) ^ N
It actually takes less time to have all drones on the same target. |
Davey Talvanen
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
31
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Posted - 2015.03.16 09:11:47 -
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J'Poll wrote:
A. Natural selection. EVE isn't made for "the general 12 yo gamer", so why would it have to change so they can play it. It is not their intended audience.
Guess I better pack up and move back to KSP. |
Phig Neutron
Rubicon Cubism
60
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Posted - 2015.03.16 18:22:05 -
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Asmodia wrote:J'Poll wrote:Sorry, but 30 mil / hour is NOT much.
Specially if you consider that you are using 2 accounts for that (15 mil / hour / account), which any mission runner can easily multiply by much with just 1 account. And what high sec mission this are ? Level 5 ? - Mining is something you can watch movies. - I never heard that level 4 missions make 30 millions per hour. Only with 1 b equiment maybe. - Do not worry. My Orca pilot runs missions for fun. BUt I need to fix my Amarr standings first. -5,9
Look into incursions. You can earn about 100 mil/hour and you can do it almost AFK (so there's your movie watching).
I don't think 15 mil/hour per character is far out of reach for L4 mission running. You should count the LP as well as the ISK rewards, bounties, and loot/salvage where applicable. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
5765
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Posted - 2015.03.16 20:33:50 -
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As far as making ISK goes, check out the Making ISK guide on Evelopedia.
Day 0 Advice for New Players
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
5766
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Posted - 2015.03.16 20:35:04 -
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Phig Neutron wrote:I don't think 15 mil/hour per character is far out of reach for L4 mission running. You should count the LP as well as the ISK rewards, bounties, and loot/salvage where applicable.
Blitzing L4 missions will earn you closer to ~100M ISK/hr. "Full clearing" L4 missions and contracting out the salvage will earn around 80M ISK/hr.
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Solonius Rex
F0RCED ENTRY F0RCED ENTRY.
182
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Posted - 2015.03.19 18:24:51 -
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BlackD3ath Spanski wrote:Well what a pleasant experience, and yeah someone tried to scam me with a mail that said I needed a permit to fly a retriever and he could get me started right away.. good god, the only people to fall for this would be inexperienced gamers, or really young players, which is a shame because the EvE community would be massive if new players weren't treated so harshly and with such disrespect, is that an aspect of the game that makes it great? no, and it doesn't have to be that way Wont change though i'm sure, haha.. anywho, i'm glad people can find me from forums, and know exactly where I am, that is fascinating but also unrealistic at the same time for a game that strives to be more on the realistic side And what i meant by the salvage drones was, i will be surrounded by 30 wrecks, send them out, and they will go 1 wreck at a time instead of spreading out saving us a massive amount of time Very easily applications could be put into this game making it have more realistic systems, as if a capsuleer wouldn't have the option to have his drones spread out to different wrecks to save time and salvage more efficiently, need to put that option in the game, and it would be relatively EASY.
Ive been on Xbox live before. The 12 year old gamers are the ones who spam and shout and swear. Im pretty sure that having more young players in EVE will not decrease the amount of disrespect or harshness.
And no, Salvage drones salvage on a chance-based system. So using 1 salvage drone on 1 wreck, and trying to salvage 5 wrecks at a time, will generally take the same time as using all 5 salvage drones on 1 wreck.
But asking for this in the name of realism, is sort of stupid. Nothing in eve is real. There is no such thing as warp gates. There is no such thing as Sansha. Caldari Prime does not exist. Gallente Federation does not exist. Sleepers do not exist. Dodixie does not exist. If we were trying to make a game that was real, EVE would not exist, because none of this actually exists out there in reality. |
Phig Neutron
Rubicon Cubism
79
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Posted - 2015.03.19 19:12:49 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Phig Neutron wrote:I don't think 15 mil/hour per character is far out of reach for L4 mission running. You should count the LP as well as the ISK rewards, bounties, and loot/salvage where applicable. Blitzing L4 missions will earn you closer to ~100M ISK/hr. "Full clearing" L4 missions and contracting out the salvage will earn around 80M ISK/hr. Maybe, but that requires well-skilled characters, and a pretty intense attention to the game, and doesn't account for bathroom breaks and the like. I was reacting to somebody who thought 30 million per hour (dual boxing) would be hard to achieve.
Frankly, I know a guy who claims to earn over 300mil/hour doing missions in nullsec, counting LP rewards and probably counting the high frequency of Burner missions you get there. |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5987
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Posted - 2015.03.19 20:30:43 -
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Solonius Rex wrote:BlackD3ath Spanski wrote:Well what a pleasant experience, and yeah someone tried to scam me with a mail that said I needed a permit to fly a retriever and he could get me started right away.. good god, the only people to fall for this would be inexperienced gamers, or really young players, which is a shame because the EvE community would be massive if new players weren't treated so harshly and with such disrespect, is that an aspect of the game that makes it great? no, and it doesn't have to be that way Wont change though i'm sure, haha.. anywho, i'm glad people can find me from forums, and know exactly where I am, that is fascinating but also unrealistic at the same time for a game that strives to be more on the realistic side And what i meant by the salvage drones was, i will be surrounded by 30 wrecks, send them out, and they will go 1 wreck at a time instead of spreading out saving us a massive amount of time Very easily applications could be put into this game making it have more realistic systems, as if a capsuleer wouldn't have the option to have his drones spread out to different wrecks to save time and salvage more efficiently, need to put that option in the game, and it would be relatively EASY. Ive been on Xbox live before. The 12 year old gamers are the ones who spam and shout and swear. Im pretty sure that having more young players in EVE will not decrease the amount of disrespect or harshness. And no, Salvage drones salvage on a chance-based system. So using 1 salvage drone on 1 wreck, and trying to salvage 5 wrecks at a time, will generally take the same time as using all 5 salvage drones on 1 wreck. But asking for this in the name of realism, is sort of stupid. Nothing in eve is real. There is no such thing as warp gates. There is no such thing as Sansha. Caldari Prime does not exist. Gallente Federation does not exist. Sleepers do not exist. Dodixie does not exist. If we were trying to make a game that was real, EVE would not exist, because none of this actually exists out there in reality.
Or does it...
Who knows.
P.s. EVE is real.
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xavier zor2
Abattoir Militia
0
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:22:41 -
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I am aiming to make ISK, but i have no fucking idea where to do it! Relic sites? Where the hell do i find them, or where are they!?!?
this game is so confusing, but if i can become #1 in DUST (for 4 weeks) then i can manage EVE |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5990
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:35:45 -
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xavier zor2 wrote:I am aiming to make ISK, but i have no fucking idea where to do it! Relic sites? Where the hell do i find them, or where are they!?!?
this game is so confusing, but if i can become #1 in DUST (for 4 weeks) then i can manage EVE
Uhm. Go do the tutorials / career agents (hit F12 to see where the closest are to you).
Also, Dust =/= EVE....By miles. So no matter how good you are at Dust, that doesnt mean a thing in EVE.
Tbh, most bunnies Ive seen trying EVE ran away quickly very fast, cause it is a totally different game. The only similarly is that they are both happening in the same universe.
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xavier zor2
Abattoir Militia
0
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:41:02 -
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J'Poll wrote:xavier zor2 wrote:I am aiming to make ISK, but i have no fucking idea where to do it! Relic sites? Where the hell do i find them, or where are they!?!?
this game is so confusing, but if i can become #1 in DUST (for 4 weeks) then i can manage EVE Uhm. Go do the tutorials / career agents (hit F12 to see where the closest are to you). Also, Dust =/= EVE....By miles. So no matter how good you are at Dust, that doesnt mean a thing in EVE. Tbh, most bunnies Ive seen trying EVE ran away quickly very fast, cause it is a totally different game. The only similarly is that they are both happening in the same universe.
ok
to youtube! Well if i am doing a factional battle in EVE, and the same battle is taking place in DUST, i can play dust and have my EVE char provide OB support right? Somehow |
J'Poll
Green Skull LLC
5990
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Posted - 2015.03.19 23:45:45 -
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xavier zor2 wrote:J'Poll wrote:xavier zor2 wrote:I am aiming to make ISK, but i have no fucking idea where to do it! Relic sites? Where the hell do i find them, or where are they!?!?
this game is so confusing, but if i can become #1 in DUST (for 4 weeks) then i can manage EVE Uhm. Go do the tutorials / career agents (hit F12 to see where the closest are to you). Also, Dust =/= EVE....By miles. So no matter how good you are at Dust, that doesnt mean a thing in EVE. Tbh, most bunnies Ive seen trying EVE ran away quickly very fast, cause it is a totally different game. The only similarly is that they are both happening in the same universe. ok to youtube! Well if i am doing a factional battle in EVE, and the same battle is taking place in DUST, i can play dust and have my EVE char provide OB support right? Somehow
Technically...yes.
Practically, I hope you love to replace lost ships, as likely while you are sitting on the planet, you are a nice and easy target.
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