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Mr R4nd0m
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.13 17:30:22 -
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I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.
Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented? |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
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Posted - 2015.03.13 17:32:09 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.
Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented?
CCP had said in a CSM minutes posting a long time ago "it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage"
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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Mr R4nd0m
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.13 17:36:09 -
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Agondray wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.
Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented? CCP had said in a CSM minutes posting a long time ago "it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage"
What i dont believe that at all. So youre telling me to go back to a screen that already exists takes 6 months and 5 devs. thats completely BS. |
YuIia
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.13 17:37:52 -
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Agondray wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.
Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented? CCP had said in a CSM minutes posting a long time ago "it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage"
Which makes no sense because they spent the same amount of time doing the streaming client, that will only be used once per install.
As someone that uses all the characters on my account it would significantly improve the game for me to be able to log out to character screen. CCP don't play the game enough to understand how important it is. |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:07:22 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.
Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented? I guess CCP doesn't realize what an important figure you are in the gaming industry. Maybe if you SHOUT your wish would become their command!
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Marsha Mallow
2011
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:09:12 -
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It takes 4 clicks using the launcher to relog a different character on the same account. If you login and leave the launcher running its ESC > QUIT > PLAY (username/pw is saved for the account) > SELECT CHARACTER.
How many clicks do you expect a relog to the character screen to actually save?
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Relax, it is only a game and elections work on popularity, not competence.
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Vyl Vit
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:11:14 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.
Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented? I guess CCP doesn't realize what an important figure you are in the gaming industry. Maybe if you SHOUTyour wish would become their command! Can't you just see them wiggling in their seats and whining to themselves as they have to press the play button and wait that thirty seconds, AGAIN! The horror! The horror!
Anyone with any sense has already left town.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:23:14 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Agondray wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.
Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented? CCP had said in a CSM minutes posting a long time ago "it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage" What i dont believe that at all. So youre telling me to go back to a screen that already exists takes 6 months and 5 devs. thats completely BS.
You know nothing about coding..
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
237
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:27:00 -
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YuIia wrote:Agondray wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.
Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented? CCP had said in a CSM minutes posting a long time ago "it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage" Which makes no sense because they spent the same amount of time doing the streaming client, that will only be used once per install. As someone that uses all the characters on my account it would significantly improve the game for me to be able to log out to character screen. CCP don't play the game enough to understand how important it is.
yeah I don't remember which CSM minutes, I think it was 8 or so.
the main reason they used was along the lines for many things they say for the code now. "the Legacy code is to old of code and there is no one left at the company to do the code"
many of the new things that have been done over the past several years is New Code being surgically inserted into legacy code for the 2 codes to work together (thanks of things like the new deployables)
Some of the old code has been deleted and rewritten by the new code.
most of the old code remains (POS's are a good example)
Like many places when they lose employees (and the military) when they lose people no one bothers to fill the other in on the work that they do (programming skills for the old code could have been passed to new programmers in training) they would atleast have someone that knows something about the old code instead of a office full of people killing themselves of trying to understand the old code and how to write new code and stich it together like a Frankenstein Program
I for one would like to have CCP show up excepts of the code so we can see what old code, new code, and the combined code looks like.
"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
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stoicfaux
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:33:45 -
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Agondray wrote: "it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage"
To be fair, Computer Science is a field where one will spend three days to save three seconds. I guess CCP has simply set an upper boundary for that truism.
Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
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Felicity Love
Imperium Galactic Navy
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:38:41 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.
Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented?
If it's even an issue at all, in CCP's "eyes", it's so far down on the "To Do" list as to have a priority somewhere on par with shovelling whale shyte at the bottom of the ocean.
Technically, CCP has better things to do with it's time.
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23256
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:41:07 -
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*curses OP for making me like a Serene Repose post.
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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DaReaper
Net 7
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Posted - 2015.03.13 18:55:43 -
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Agondray wrote:YuIia wrote:Agondray wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.
Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented? CCP had said in a CSM minutes posting a long time ago "it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage" Which makes no sense because they spent the same amount of time doing the streaming client, that will only be used once per install. As someone that uses all the characters on my account it would significantly improve the game for me to be able to log out to character screen. CCP don't play the game enough to understand how important it is. yeah I don't remember which CSM minutes, I think it was 8 or so. the main reason they used was along the lines for many things they say for the code now. "the Legacy code is to old of code and there is no one left at the company to do the code"many of the new things that have been done over the past several years is New Code being surgically inserted into legacy code for the 2 codes to work together (thanks of things like the new deployables) Some of the old code has been deleted and rewritten by the new code. most of the old code remains (POS's are a good example) Like many places when they lose employees (and the military) when they lose people no one bothers to fill the other in on the work that they do (programming skills for the old code could have been passed to new programmers in training) they would atleast have someone that knows something about the old code instead of a office full of people killing themselves of trying to understand the old code and how to write new code and stich it together like a Frankenstein Program I for one would like to have CCP show up excepts of the code so we can see what old code, new code, and the combined code looks like.
Except thats not true. CCP TomB is still around, and hes been at CCP sinse at least 04 when i started.
This is why i said before if i was Hilmar, right after incarnia i would of setup a special team that did nothing but a full blown rewrite. With the expantions being to lead up to the full rewrite. but thats me
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.03.13 19:14:09 -
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You can argue about it, OP, but it's been like this since 2003, and we've asked a few times. So if they haven't done it in 12 years... |
Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
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Posted - 2015.03.13 19:47:56 -
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Actually, there's nobody left alive that remembers the legacy code. They've been digging in sites around Silicon Valley in hopes of uncovering a legendary computer lab supposedly buried under layers of accumulated earthquake debris. I think the expedition is headed up by a guy with a deathly fear of snakes, who carries a bullwhip...Louisiana Jones, or somethin'.
Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to.
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Mr R4nd0m
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:26:40 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.
Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented? I guess CCP doesn't realize what an important figure you are in the gaming industry. Maybe if you SHOUTyour wish would become their command! Can't you just see them wiggling in their seats and whining to themselves as they have to press the play button and wait that thirty seconds, AGAIN! The horror! The horror!Marsha Mallow wrote:It takes 4 clicks using the launcher to relog a different character on the same account. If you login and leave the launcher running its ESC > QUIT > PLAY (username/pw is saved for the account) > SELECT CHARACTER.
How many clicks do you expect a relog to the character screen to actually save? ^This.
Becuase you know what is bad design full stop you dumb ass.. the fact is when you log out of your character you SHOULD be able to go back to your char selection screen, just like most applications do and just like most games do.. does that answer you dumb troll?
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Mr R4nd0m
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:28:15 -
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Felicity Love wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.
Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented? If it's even an issue at all, in CCP's "eyes", it's so far down on the "To Do" list as to have a priority somewhere on par with shovelling whale shyte at the bottom of the ocean. Technically, CCP has better things to do with it's time.
like? i mean you obviously know EXACTLY what CCPs backlog is, and it sounds like you are the person with all the answers. So please share. I would really love to hear from such a knowledgeable guy like your self.
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Paranoid Loyd
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:37:56 -
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Not gonna happen. Stop whining about it.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Mr R4nd0m
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:40:53 -
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no |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:44:19 -
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He's tryin' real hard to make friends around here.
Treason never prospers. What is the reason?
Why, if it prospers, none dare call it "treason."
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Marsha Mallow
2014
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:44:33 -
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Answer my question then, it's not a troll
How many clicks do you expect a relog to the character screen to actually save?
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Relax, it is only a game and elections work on popularity, not competence.
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Valkin Mordirc
768
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:45:07 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Agondray wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.
Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented? CCP had said in a CSM minutes posting a long time ago "it would take 5 devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage" What i dont believe that at all. So youre telling me to go back to a screen that already exists takes 6 months and 5 devs. thats completely BS.
It's the CSM minutes you twatwaffle it's pretty legitiment, What would be the point of the CSM if CCP lies to them?
Stop being a baby and suck it up. Litterally this has to be the most lazy complaint about the game I've seen in a while.
"BUT IT TAKE ME 30 SECS TO RELOG!"
That's what you're saying. You are bitching about 30 god damn seconds.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Vyl Vit
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:45:36 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Vyl Vit wrote:Serene Repose wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:I dont get why we still cant log out to our character selection screen rather than having to literally go back to the login launcher to change char.
Is there a technical reason why this hasnt been implemented? I guess CCP doesn't realize what an important figure you are in the gaming industry. Maybe if you SHOUTyour wish would become their command! Can't you just see them wiggling in their seats and whining to themselves as they have to press the play button and wait that thirty seconds, AGAIN! The horror! The horror!Marsha Mallow wrote:It takes 4 clicks using the launcher to relog a different character on the same account. If you login and leave the launcher running its ESC > QUIT > PLAY (username/pw is saved for the account) > SELECT CHARACTER.
How many clicks do you expect a relog to the character screen to actually save? ^This. Becuase you know what is bad design full stop you dumb ass.. the fact is when you log out of your character you SHOULD be able to go back to your char selection screen, just like most applications do and just like most games do.. does that answer you dumb troll? OOOOH, are we trying to get our own thread locked?? Couldn't happen to a nicer waste of bandwidth.
Anyone with any sense has already left town.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23261
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:48:53 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:Becuase you know what is bad design full stop you dumb ass.. the fact is when you log out of your character you SHOULD be able to go back to your char selection screen, just like most applications do and just like most games do.. does that answer you dumb troll?
I suggest you take your pent up aggression and sense of entitlement elsewhere. Posts like this can only result in tears, your tears.
CCP karkur wrote: No. We would love to be able to do that, but that is not at all a "character selection screen" issue. Once a connection has been made, both the server code and client code make a lot of assumptions that the characterID will not change, and it's very far from trivial to change that (otherwise we probably would have done that a long time ago)
If you believe otherwise then I'm sure CCP would welcome your help with implementing what you see to be a minor code fix, otherwise kindly STFU.
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Mr R4nd0m
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:49:05 -
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lol the amount of people that get defensive about something that is quite frankly nothing to do with them still amazes me. Which just an easy simple question lol.
I love the eve community it still lives up to its name as probably the worse gaming community ever.... |
Valkin Mordirc
768
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:49:54 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:lol the amount of people that get defensive about something that is quite frankly nothing to do with them still amazes me. Which just an easy simple question lol.
I love the eve community it still lives up to its name as probably the worse gaming community ever....
Here's the door
#DeleteTheWeak
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Mr R4nd0m
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:49:58 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:Becuase you know what is bad design full stop you dumb ass.. the fact is when you log out of your character you SHOULD be able to go back to your char selection screen, just like most applications do and just like most games do.. does that answer you dumb troll?
I suggest you take your pent up aggression and sense of entitlement elsewhere. Posts like this can only result in tears, your tears.
no tears here.. just funny seeing people liek you post angry responses over a normal question..now move along.. |
Mr R4nd0m
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:50:46 -
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Valkin Mordirc wrote:Mr R4nd0m wrote:lol the amount of people that get defensive about something that is quite frankly nothing to do with them still amazes me. Which just an easy simple question lol.
I love the eve community it still lives up to its name as probably the worse gaming community ever.... Here's the door
yeah its pretty good actually i just levelled to 90.. awesome... |
Marsha Mallow
2014
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:53:37 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:lol the amount of people that get defensive about something that is quite frankly nothing to do with them still amazes me. Which just an easy simple question lol.
I love the eve community it still lives up to its name as probably the worse gaming community ever.... A dev spending 6 months to save a whinger like you a few seconds is quite relevant to everyone else.
And you still haven't answered my question.
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Yazzinra
Scorpion Ventures
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:54:16 -
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I'm willing to bet this gets "fixed" before they touch the POS code. |
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Mr R4nd0m
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:55:24 -
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Yazzinra wrote:I'm willing to bet this gets "fixed" before they touch the POS code.
10 years then?
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:57:19 -
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Mr R4nd0m wrote:no tears here.. just funny seeing people liek you post angry responses over a normal question..now move along.. You're the one that got all aggressive and angry when you were told no. That's tears my friend, childish tears.
Grow up, get over it or foxtrot oscar, nobody cares which tbh.
"Remember, as a non-combatant, your best tank is being elsewhere." ~ Abrazzar
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2015.03.13 21:00:31 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:OOOOH, are we trying to get our own thread locked?? Yep. And succeeding in it too.
Thread locked. I could say for obvious reasons but lets do this the official way:
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