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Wylde Kardde
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.13 21:48:40 -
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CCP is doing an amazing job on new ship designs, however several ships in game still look like they originated in Chernobyl. I was curious as to what ship models they might be remaking this year, so I felt like asking everyone here what gives you eyesores when it comes to the out-dated ship designs still creeping around. This is one that should really be in game at some point in the future: http://www.evemanufacturing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/dominix-fanfest-redesign.png
Here's my list of ships that need rethinking in the looks department as well as my thoughts on them: Frigates: GÇó BANTAM (No Seriously) GÇó IMICUS (My 4yo cousin's toys look less telletubbyish than this ship) GÇó Griffin (Doesn't exactly look like a flying jamming device) GÇó Navitas (No fish in EvE) GÇó Slasher (Less robomoth meets metal detector & more tyrfing [FB] meets Valkyrie [drone] GÇó Burst !! Just flip it on its side & add a new pilot deck CCP!! Mini tempest style = perfect!!
Cruisers GÇó BELLICOSE (Needs a whole new look, can't salvage any of that contraption) GÇó Scythe (Boring, could be much cooler as a smaller tornado-ish design that looks like a scythe) GÇó Rupture ( it's a cardboard box) GÇó Caracal (keep the engines they're fine) GÇó Vexor (hasn't really changed in looks since like 2004) GÇó Osprey (it's arms are trying to do the tango)
Others GÇó Archon (Flip the stretched turtle shell on top of the center landing strip and bam! Super giant Providence [freighter]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z61bKT-m0UE
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Arthur Aihaken
X A X
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:13:13 -
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Caracal (and variants) would be at the top of my list.
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Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:20:33 -
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As of yet not in the game ship. I want new stuff not the hammering of the stuff we have 'til it's dead. Some ships should not be changed.. it doesn't matter if they are ugly.. ships are not all designed the same way and ugliness should be allowed. but let's not wreck anything else please.
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Arthur Aihaken
X A X
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:29:01 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:As of yet not in the game ship. I want new stuff not the hammering of the stuff we have 'til it's dead. Some ships should not be changed.. it doesn't matter if they are ugly.. ships are not all designed the same way and ugliness should be allowed. but let's not wreck anything else please. While I'm all for new ships, barring that I certainly won't object to occasional redesigns of existing ships. It's probably a lot easier than introducing a new ship that has to be balanced.
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Reina Xyaer
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:46:27 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:As of yet not in the game ship. I want new stuff not the hammering of the stuff we have 'til it's dead. Some ships should not be changed.. it doesn't matter if they are ugly.. ships are not all designed the same way and ugliness should be allowed. but let's not wreck anything else please.
No no NO. No. Stop with the new ships.
We don't need any more NEW SHIPS.
CCP doesn't balance the ships we already have.
WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE NEW SHIPS. |
Leon Mantis
Limul Tribal
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Posted - 2015.03.13 23:04:25 -
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I agree with everyone off your toughts on ship redesigns except for the slasher and the archon. (no capital redesigns needed really)
Some other ships that could use a make-over:
Armageddon - tho it looks good, it should be the next battleship redesign after the Dominix. Also we might get that Bhaalgorn a special new look.
Atron - Something like this Celestis - looks weird, nuff said.
Cormorant - needs a new look
Breacher - looks far too fragile |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.03.13 23:11:31 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Caracal (and variants) would be at the top of my list.
I vote for this love the cerb but hardly fly it do to the looks
as for new ships yeah we don't really need more ships we have enough hardly used ones as is
Fuel block colors? Missiles for Caldari T3?
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.13 23:48:25 -
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A new look for the Redeemer, Panther, Widow and Sin would be nice... Something more stealthy |
FireFrenzy
Satan's Unicorns
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Posted - 2015.03.13 23:49:55 -
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DOMINIX
God the potatoeshoe needs some serious love... |
Wylde Kardde
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.14 00:01:50 -
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Leon Mantis wrote:I agree with everyone off your toughts on ship redesigns except for the slasher and the archon. (no capital redesigns needed really) Some other ships that could use a make-over: Armageddon - tho it looks good, it should be the next battleship redesign after the Dominix. Also we might get that Bhaalgorn a special new look. Atron - Something like thisCelestis - looks weird, nuff said. Cormorant - needs a new look Breacher - looks far too fragile
I know people are touchy about capitals, but in all honesty if people fly caps its gonna be due to their bonuses/ fitting/ and stat distribution.. a change in the ship model of just 1 supercarrier would have 0 ill effect on anything i would bet. Null Fleet combat could have teddybears instead of ships as long as they do their job, plus everyone's usually zoomed out anyway.
i felt that i had to mention the archon though because it simply never gave me (and i assume some others can agree) that wow factor in a supercapital that need so much group logistical support to operate.. it should be visually motivating to some degree and not a sad representation of amarrian brilliance mastering armor, its like literally 1/2 of a ship lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z61bKT-m0UE
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Stitch Kaneland
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.14 00:19:50 -
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Wylde Kardde wrote:Leon Mantis wrote:I agree with everyone off your toughts on ship redesigns except for the slasher and the archon. (no capital redesigns needed really) Some other ships that could use a make-over: Armageddon - tho it looks good, it should be the next battleship redesign after the Dominix. Also we might get that Bhaalgorn a special new look. Atron - Something like thisCelestis - looks weird, nuff said. Cormorant - needs a new look Breacher - looks far too fragile I know people are touchy about capitals, but in all honesty if people fly caps its gonna be due to their bonuses/ fitting/ and stat distribution.. a change in the ship model of just 1 supercarrier would have 0 ill effect on anything i would bet. Null Fleet combat could have teddybears instead of ships as long as they do their job, plus everyone's usually zoomed out anyway. i felt that i had to mention the archon though because it simply never gave me (and i assume some others can agree) that wow factor in a supercapital that need so much group logistical support to operate.. it should be visually motivating to some degree and not a sad representation of amarrian brilliance mastering armor, its like literally 1/2 of a ship lol
The archon is a regular cap. The Aeon is a supercap, that looks half finished.
I think archon looks fine. Aeon looks alil derpy though.
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Lienzo
Amanuensis
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Posted - 2015.03.14 00:22:50 -
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I agree with the sentiment on the breacher, aka the flying radio antenna. Since we need a new minmatar stealth bomber anyway, I'd settle for swapping out for the hound hull. The vigil looks more like an exploration hull than the probe does. More wings, auxiliary thrusters and antennae all around.
Since all the main lines have two attack frigates now, it'd be nice if we could divvy up the T2 AFs amongst them. The retribution should really be based on the tormentor, the hawk should be based on the kestrel, the ishkur should be based on the tristan and the jaguar probably needs to be put through a compactor until it some kind of usable missile boat emerges.
We definitely don't need a new lines of T2 logi frigates till we get a bantam update. That poor thing is just sorrowful.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.03.14 00:42:32 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:A new look for the Redeemer, Panther, Widow and Sin would be nice... Something more stealthy
would love to see something similar to the old scorp hull
(not the exact same ofc) but i did feel it fit the black ops look better than the current one
or more robust engines on the lot to reflect the jump drives they have strapped on to their subcap hull
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Alena McJenkins
McJenkins' Saucy Shipwreckers LLC
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Posted - 2015.03.14 01:10:32 -
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Thorax could lose the bottom nacelle.
Sauce.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.03.14 01:17:45 -
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Alena McJenkins wrote:Thorax could lose the bottom nacelle.
It's warp drive O.o
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Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2015.03.14 01:45:41 -
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With enough pages, this thread will eventually list ALL the ships, making it confusing for CCP. "They want us to change all of them, boss, what do we do?" |
Juan Mileghere
Incident Command Southern Star Dominion
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Posted - 2015.03.14 02:37:42 -
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All Ships need some slight changes |
Colette Kassia
Kassia Industrial Supply
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Posted - 2015.03.14 05:41:25 -
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Just don't make them all look sorta the same. Don't make them all symmetrical. Don't make them all sleek arrowheads or klingon birds-of-prey. They should all look totally unique. |
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CCP Darwin
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.14 05:56:47 -
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The Dominix is still coming! It got delayed to make space for other projects, including the T3 tactical destroyers and our various shading and texturing updates, but nobody's forgotten it. Other redesigns are also in progress.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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Arthur Aihaken
X A X
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Posted - 2015.03.14 07:00:11 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:The Dominix is still coming! It got delayed to make space for other projects, including the T3 tactical destroyers and our various shading and texturing updates, but nobody's forgotten it. Other redesigns are also in progress. Chimera? Any hints?
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Arthur Aihaken
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Posted - 2015.03.14 07:09:40 -
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Reina Xyaer wrote:WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE NEW SHIPS. What's that you say? MORE NEW SHIPS! +1 YES!
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Wylde Kardde
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.14 07:49:53 -
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Stitch Kaneland wrote:Wylde Kardde wrote:Leon Mantis wrote:I agree with everyone off your toughts on ship redesigns except for the slasher and the archon. (no capital redesigns needed really) Some other ships that could use a make-over: Armageddon - tho it looks good, it should be the next battleship redesign after the Dominix. Also we might get that Bhaalgorn a special new look. Atron - Something like thisCelestis - looks weird, nuff said. Cormorant - needs a new look Breacher - looks far too fragile I know people are touchy about capitals, but in all honesty if people fly caps its gonna be due to their bonuses/ fitting/ and stat distribution.. a change in the ship model of just 1 supercarrier would have 0 ill effect on anything i would bet. Null Fleet combat could have teddybears instead of ships as long as they do their job, plus everyone's usually zoomed out anyway. i felt that i had to mention the archon though because it simply never gave me (and i assume some others can agree) that wow factor in a supercapital that need so much group logistical support to operate.. it should be visually motivating to some degree and not a sad representation of amarrian brilliance mastering armor, its like literally 1/2 of a ship lol The archon is a regular cap. The Aeon is a supercap, that looks half finished. I think archon looks fine. Aeon looks alil derpy though.
Oh crap hah ..yes Aeon is the one i meant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z61bKT-m0UE
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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2015.03.14 08:05:27 -
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Leave the Aeon alone!
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Claud Tiberius
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2015.03.14 08:18:35 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:CCP Darwin wrote:The Dominix is still coming! It got delayed to make space for other projects, including the T3 tactical destroyers and our various shading and texturing updates, but nobody's forgotten it. Other redesigns are also in progress. Chimera? Any hints? Yes, actually: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67006/1/6.jpg
Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
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Wylde Kardde
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.14 08:39:00 -
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CCP Darwin wrote:The Dominix is still coming! It got delayed to make space for other projects, including the T3 tactical destroyers and our various shading and texturing updates, but nobody's forgotten it. Other redesigns are also in progress.
Thank you for the post, I am very happy to hear that it wasnt forgotten. I know designs can be challenging and i wanted to throw this simple idea out there, while the Minmatar Burst may be a minor ship to people, it was my only ship i had back in 2010 when i began seeing how big EvE was, i flew that thing for hours everywhere being such a newb. however these days if its in front of me ill use it to zip around, maybe try out the new role it has. Time & time again I become more certain that this little guy was meant to be vertical, nothing altered except maybe 1 thruster & a new control deck on the side and boom! you have a mini Tempest. That would be easy as pie and makes it 200 times more minmatar.. anyway just my 2 cents on that.. I hope it gets somewhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z61bKT-m0UE
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Aivlis Eldelbar
Ubuntu Inc. The Fourth District
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Posted - 2015.03.14 13:04:10 -
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Claud Tiberius wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:CCP Darwin wrote:The Dominix is still coming! It got delayed to make space for other projects, including the T3 tactical destroyers and our various shading and texturing updates, but nobody's forgotten it. Other redesigns are also in progress. Chimera? Any hints? Yes, actually: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67006/1/6.jpg
I was about to say that the Chimera doesn't need a redesign as much as some other, much uglier things (:cough: osprey :cough:) but that one looks quite nice and keeps the current style of the hull.
Also, my two cents on ugly ships:
- Osprey. It looks like a bloated insect. - The thorax line could be made symetrical and lose the funky bottom engine as has been pointed out. - The blops line could benefit from a rework to differentiate them more from their T1 counterparts, just like bombers look quite different from their base hulls. - Some T3 configurations are uglier than sin, but I guess somebody likes them. - The Golem. Just... why? I'm still bitter that just as I trained into marauders it got caught under a steamroller and flattened |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.03.14 13:08:54 -
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Claud Tiberius wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:CCP Darwin wrote:The Dominix is still coming! It got delayed to make space for other projects, including the T3 tactical destroyers and our various shading and texturing updates, but nobody's forgotten it. Other redesigns are also in progress. Chimera? Any hints? Yes, actually: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67006/1/6.jpg
My chimera T.T of all the ugly ass ships in eve why you got to go messing with the chimera
this just looks like a fragile rokh
EDIT:
However if they are doing this so as to finally implement a triage animation I'm okay with it
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Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.14 14:06:00 -
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For me i would say "Nightmare" , it looks really out-dated.
EVEBoard ...Just over 20million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
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Kardaval Scheinder
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.14 15:56:41 -
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i wouldn't mind the caracals getting "buffier" looking while still keeping in line with their profil, (not a ban of their anorexic profile)
The osprey is another one, it was ok when it was a mining ship, but a change to a military support vessel make it's profile just weird, some asymetrical with a spartan design would be nice.
and i only really fly caldari ships, so ihave no opinions on the other factions |
Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross Eternal Pretorian Alliance
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Posted - 2015.03.14 17:04:26 -
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I can't believe the Arazu hasn't been mentioned. ATM it looks like a tumor. Evidence for my tumor-claim: A wild tumor appeared! This is way worse than the bellicose, caracal etc. IMO that have been mentioned.
Also aside from redesigns - on Gallente ships in general I have this to say: 1995 called, they want their textures back. I think the Gallente textures really need some love. The amarr ones look fantastic under PBR but the gallente cruisers are all rusty now.
I know CCP mentioned it immediately after the release of PBR, but since then I've seen no mention of updating the gallente textures so they don't look so rusty and outdated. |
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