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Nai'gah	Posted - 2006.10.16 15:40:00 - [1] I'm current doing a BA design project along the themes of water. (RSA) I'm reminded of projects involing Alkali (sp?) metals in which water was a reactant. I was wondering if any of you might have any other examples of which water could be "burnt". Eg. - Chip pan fires (adding water exacerbates the situation) - Sodium peroxide mixed with zinc powder requires water to start the reaction. - Fire breathing (?) I'm more interested in examples which are more common to people in every day life. (please avoid statements such as water cannont be burnt etc, i'm aware of the chemistry (physics) of fire - the purpose of this is more visual/philosophical!) Thanks
Bazman Caldari Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.16 15:50:00 - [2] I know its not every day stuff, but Napalm? Heard you can't extinquish it with water, don't know if its the same thing as it being a reactant ----- Hi TUXFORD! Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks. I am a Gallente Whiner. Minmatar Whining is currently in training.
AshFish TNGC Starwolf O X I D E	Posted - 2006.10.16 15:51:00 - [3] All of the highly re-active metals in the periodic table , lithium etc. will "burn" when in contact with water, this is rather funky and gives off loads of heat. Hope that helps
Lanfear's Bane Daughters of the Night	Posted - 2006.10.16 15:54:00 - [4] Does carbonated water count, I bet you can do loads of neat things with it. Lanfear's Bane. _ _ _
Ceramik Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.16 16:48:00 - [5] Edited by: Ceramik on 16/10/2006 16:47:58 Pour oil on top of water and light it? Or I guess if you can figure out how to make Greek Fire that would work. Good luck with that one though.
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:24:00 - [6] Yeah, float some petrol on a lake and set fire to it. For best effect, do it to a local lake near to where you are doing the presentation, and video it, so everyone recognises the location As for your other examples: Chip pan fires are a problem with water because it flash-boils, increasing in volume very quickly and propelling the burning oil. Not sure on sodium peroxide one. Fire breathing is the alcohol in the liquid (something like whiskey) burning. Alkali earth metals + water is always fun. Also, if you can get your hands on liquid oxygen (not easy), try dipping a match in it, lighting it and then poking it underwater. It will contiunue to burn. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
hattifnatt Gallente The Movement	Posted - 2006.10.16 20:01:00 - [7] Fire Breathing is done with lamp oil. 400x120@24000 Bytes Maximum please. -Capsicum ___ /o.0\ \___/ <-- This is Jigglypuff!! [
Hakera Anari Higard	Posted - 2006.10.16 21:18:00 - [8] Edited by: Hakera on 16/10/2006 21:17:53 greek fire? i remember something about one of its ingediants phosphate would release more reactants (phosporous) if water was thrown on it. hence its secret that the more water you added, the stronger the fire got rendering you unable to put it out. handy weapon back in the middle ages
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.16 22:16:00 - [9] Originally by: Hakera Edited by: Hakera on 16/10/2006 21:17:53 greek fire? i remember something about one of its ingediants phosphate would release more reactants (phosporous) if water was thrown on it. hence its secret that the more water you added, the stronger the fire got rendering you unable to put it out. handy weapon back in the middle ages actually it was before the dark ages ------- Originally by: Abdalion Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant? Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
sir pushdogg	Posted - 2006.10.17 02:54:00 - [10] when i was in high school a student teacher was kinda showing off, and cut a small piece of sodium off of a block and dropped it in the sink(water running) it reacted rather violently, it sparked alot, and sodium is stored in kerosene, so the water did start on fire and the school had to be evacuated....lol
mazzilliu Caldari Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.10.17 11:28:00 - [11] its not exactly water, but methane trapped in ice deep under the ocean burns if brought to the surface and lit up http://www.semp.us/biots/biot_301.html fascinating stuff I'M IN YOUR SYSTEMS. I'M KILLING YOUR MANS!!!
Ethidium Bromide ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.17 12:09:00 - [12] Sodium Hydrid (NaH) is giving a nice reaction with water and some initial spark Originally by: George Petsch Nochricht: Dei schwarer StroinlSser trifftn Karli[Baatzis] und ruiniert erm so richtig de Dosn, 1343.7 schhodn, oida. My sig is blue not pink although i can't argue with the slave part - Xorus wth whats this blue stuff all of a sudden? Did I miss a mail? -eris Bwahahahaha!11 Immy was here
jimmys savior	Posted - 2006.10.17 14:06:00 - [13] caesium http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEMZoFV_1-M put it in contact with a small pool of water and the whole thing explodes. more violently then dynamite.
Wrayeth Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.10.17 14:25:00 - [14] Potassium does interesting things when it hits water. It's recommended you stand back a bit, however.... -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Verus Potestas Caldari Fiat Mort	Posted - 2006.10.17 14:28:00 - [15] Originally by: jimmys savior caesium http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEMZoFV_1-M put it in contact with a small pool of water and the whole thing explodes. more violently then dynamite. Caesium is pretty similar to potassium/lithium etc, except that it is a MUCH bigger atom (and thus much more unstable). RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Tek'a Rain Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2006.10.17 14:52:00 - [16] be all clever and ***** the water with a DC inverter, light it off? seen a little tabletop model somewhere that did that.. repeatable too.. found it: yay google! Blaque or Foiritan
Ralus eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.17 19:33:00 - [17] Edited by: Ralus on 17/10/2006 19:34:42 ok heres one for you. By using a silver catalyst (or manganese I believe) you can convert peroxide H2O2 into H2 and O2 which will then rapidly react and form water plus a little O2 This reaction is already used in jetpacks (like the ones you can strap on your back) and I also beileve that spaceship 1, you know the first third party built spacecraft to reach space used a modified peroxide reaction. I know peroxide isn't technically water, but from a physical atributes side its very similar, clear liquid with similar viscosity. Anyhow this was the only video I could find on it but the first bit is Hydrogen peroxide and manganese in the flask decomposing very rapidly Linkage

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