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pyro ecious
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Posted - 2006.10.16 15:52:00 -
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hey every one I think the cerberus pilots of eve need to petition the sellers of the cerberus by not buying them cause the price is way to outrages. It is not fair for are ship to be the most expensive one. Either ccp needs to release more bpo for them as someone has a monopoly on them or we need to protest or strike aginst these outragous prices
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Uggster
Caldari
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.16 16:00:00 -
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Hahahahaha
I have 3 due to some clever deals when R.A.M.s where being eaten by T2 production, so I dont care and also......
Hahahahahaha, your a HAC pilot and your as poor as Kenny.
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Eve Hel
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Posted - 2006.10.16 16:04:00 -
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it's not ccp's responsibility ! as long as the number(s) of BPO of the hac that seeded was/is the same number for the cerb as the other hac it's good.
Their should NEVER be interfered by ccp just because you dont like the prices that the builders set ! (again as long as the BPOs are same as the others).
and noo im not one of the BPO owners.... i wish i was haha.
deal with it ! pay what they cost or get another ship.
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zeKzn
Empire of Destiny
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Posted - 2006.10.16 16:09:00 -
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posts like this make me cry
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benji
Caldari
DarkStar 1
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.16 16:13:00 -
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the problem is even if the sellers did reduce there prices, some reseller would just come along and re list the ships at a higher price, and as long as people are willing to pay the 260million for the the ship, its not going to change anytime soon.
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Norris Neophitus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.16 16:17:00 -
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I'm just not willing to pay the prices for HAC's its foolish if you ask me.
I'll live without them and spend an extra month getting a command ship instead.
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000Hunter000
Gallente
Leviathan Corperation LTD
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Posted - 2006.10.16 16:58:00 -
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yep, i could afford a cerb but anyone paying that amount of isk for what is in fact still nothing more then a souped up cara is crazy.
I did hear that one of the problems is that some of the bpo's are in the hands of some alliance and they are using it to supply their own and nobody else.
Retailers are also a problem, last time i saw a 'reasonable' priced cerb on escrow it sold like within 5 min then reappeared (or atleast i got the feeling it was the same cuz of the location) 5 min later with a 10 mill higher price (which also sold within an hour i believe)
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Nir
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Posted - 2006.10.16 17:03:00 -
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 Originally by: zeKzn
posts like this make me cry
they make me cringe..
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.10.16 17:04:00 -
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Im not against high prices. But there should be more BPOs seeded since there are more players now than when they were seeded.
Wherever you went - here you are.
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2006.10.16 17:13:00 -
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I realize this hasn't occured to most of you. But CCP wants it this way.
They have hinted at the fact that they wanted HAC's to be semi-rare. And they are.
I don't see the problem. You want one of the most powerful ships in the game, you have to pay for it.
Besides, cerbs are totally Carebear mobiles. And you know it. So you shouldn't have a probelm paying for it.
You don't see people whining about 500m HULKs.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Worms Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.16 17:14:00 -
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can get two ravens and fit them for the cost of a cerberus
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Omber Zombie
Gallente
Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2006.10.16 17:33:00 -
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/me strikes against the outrageous price fixing of the cerb 
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Laythun
Undercover Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.16 17:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
Im not against high prices. But there should be more BPOs seeded since there are more players now than when they were seeded.
Exactly. If there were more bpos and the prices were the same then it would be in the hands of the player base to do soething.
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000Hunter000
Gallente
Leviathan Corperation LTD
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Posted - 2006.10.16 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Locke DieDrake
I realize this hasn't occured to most of you. But CCP wants it this way.
Hi prices yes, but this has got nothing to do with ur regular hi priced T2 item.
I bought my first cerb for a whopping 76 mill (yes u read that correctly, 76 mill and there were tons on the market and escrow back then) now there 270 mill? thats not hi, thats silly.
Anyways mebbe 'invention' might turn that around a bit, i got tons of RP's so if i don't win me a T2 bpo come Kali i might just try the invention road instead, hell doing R&D missions might actually prove valuable then too 
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Locke DieDrake
Human Information Virus
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Posted - 2006.10.16 17:48:00 -
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Originally by: 000Hunter000
Originally by: Locke DieDrake
I realize this hasn't occured to most of you. But CCP wants it this way.
Hi prices yes, but this has got nothing to do with ur regular hi priced T2 item.
I bought my first cerb for a whopping 76 mill (yes u read that correctly, 76 mill and there were tons on the market and escrow back then) now there 270 mill? thats not hi, thats silly.
Anyways mebbe 'invention' might turn that around a bit, i got tons of RP's so if i don't win me a T2 bpo come Kali i might just try the invention road instead, hell doing R&D missions might actually prove valuable then too
I realize the prices are "out of control". But I honestly think this was more or less what CCP wanted in the first place.
If they didn't forsee this situation, then it's because they didn't bother to think about it.
Also, I hope invention helps, but it's not a cure all.
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000Hunter000
Gallente
Leviathan Corperation LTD
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Posted - 2006.10.16 17:54:00 -
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ur right about that, invention will (hopefully) help a little but it shouldn't be the end of T2 bpo's nor should we want that.
What i do hope is that invention will be a means to by investing time/iskies create T2 items through a different way, as to reduce the monopoly on some of the current T2 items, invention should by no means be easy/cheap, hell it would be best if some items (specially the cheaper T2 items) would even be more expensive to invent.
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Teccmo
Gallente
Praetorian Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.10.16 17:54:00 -
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I think that the number of t2 bpo's hac's should be increased by a large amount. I don't know how much the production costs of building hac's are, but the inflated price on most of them is due to bpo holders that sold their bpo's for an insane amount of isk, which only the rich could afford. Now the rich hold on to the bpo's and their greed takes over, making the rich richer, and the hac's more expensive.
Say there is a minurature flood of hac bpo's, what is the worst thing that could happen? The little guys are going to be persuaded to set their prices lower than the competition to get their's sold and make their isk. A toon or small corp with alot of production skills is still limited by the time and effort it takes to build and actually sell the ships. Megacorps will be forced to lower prices because they won't be able to find regions where are there are hac's outrageously priced, or no hac's at all. They might be rich, but they're not going to let a profitable venture sit and rot at a huge inflated price. Then there is the time it takes to reasearch the bpo's, which for ships is considerable, so no hac's are being built while a holder has them in research.
This is a theroy/opinon of course, but FFS CCP, release some more hac bpo's!! It's not gonna hurt the economy.
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lofty29
Praxiteles Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.16 18:01:00 -
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TBH, there's always a ship that does the job better than a HAC.
Raven *****s missions harder than a cerb - tanks better, does more DPS (You just cant be Semi-Afk mission whoring)
Megathron ganks better than the diemos / astarte, for a bit more SP and about 1/2 the price (also insurable).
The ishtar is out-performed by a dominix (with better skills)
The Eagle is out-sniped by a Megathron (though, the thron costs more now w/ t2 rails)
The only exeption to this is the vagabond, which is just pure sechs
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d026
Herrscher der Zeit
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Posted - 2006.10.16 18:04:00 -
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if you cant afford or not willing to pay those insane ammounts of isk for a crappy cruiser fly a bs like a real man would do:P
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000Hunter000
Gallente
Leviathan Corperation LTD
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Posted - 2006.10.16 18:09:00 -
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I run L4's in a Nighthawk... I never want to go back to my Raven for that
Don't think i'd use a cerb for L4's but it's kewl to use it for smallscale pvp but there is the problem really, if it were 100 to 150 mill i could afford losing 1 or 2 every so often, but 270... i'm not poor but not THAT reach either 
hm.. mebbe i should join one of the alliances that has the BPO 
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Scragg
Caldari
Tyrell Corp
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.10.16 18:15:00 -
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I have always wondered why after an initial seeding of BP's they don't re-seed. I mean a LIMITED re-seed like some ultra random chance of geting a BP that's already out on an ongoing basis.
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Big Al
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2006.10.16 18:45:00 -
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You don't lose them in pve and they are kinda awful in pvp, I don't see the issue.
If you think cerb prices are high now wait til the assault missiles come out.
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necronarcosis
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Posted - 2006.10.16 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: necronarcosis on 16/10/2006 19:16:54
Edited by: necronarcosis on 16/10/2006 19:16:30
Edited by: necronarcosis on 16/10/2006 19:16:08
only and only on the day that supply outstrips demand will you have fair T2 prices not before
its human nature.
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Khabok
Dark Lancers
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Posted - 2006.10.16 20:56:00 -
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You want to fix Cerberus prices?
1) Use intelligence gathering techniques to determine what corporation owns that BPO, what player owns that BPO, and where (what stations) those Cerberus' are being manufactured, as well as where any BPCs are being written.
2) Declare war on that corporation, locate and harass that player, and blockade those stations, even if in high-sec. Destroy any haulers that might be carrying minerals to assist in the production of those ships. Destroy any outgoing vessel that might be carrying the BPO, BPCs, or anything related to the manufacture of said ships.
3) Effectively create a hostile market economy, by purchasing all remaining ships and BPCs in existance, and preventing the manufacture of new Cerberus'.
4) At this point, you've pretty much beaten EVE, so something minor like acquiring a HAC BPO will seem like a moot point anymore.
ADD for teh win!
Khabok
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Sergio Ling
Standard Operations Building Services
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.16 21:07:00 -
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i'm really rich, and i'll happily pay high prices if it means noobs like you can't fly one
Originally by: Jacob Majestic
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Detavi Kade
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Posted - 2006.10.16 21:12:00 -
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I like the high prices. That means when we destroy one, we know the other guy is crying. 
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