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Robyn Hoodlum
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2015.03.14 09:26:46 -
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Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but it seems all I hear these days from mission runners is nonstop crying because of mission baiters. And since they mostly come here to complain, it is posted here instead of mission running. If this is the wrong place then please feel free to move it!
Problem:
1. Accept Mission
2. Warp to Mission
3. Shoot red crosses
4. Teeny tiny little ship warps in
5. Salvages your wrecks
6. Steals mission loot
7. You start to nerdrage
8. You are taunted
9. Moar nerdrage and you shoot at him
10. He kills you and you die a little inside
11, Tear of rage which is harvested and stored in cheap little bottles
12. You rage, threaten to quit, sodomize their pet spider, file ingame pettion and put on space lawyer suit and preach about bullying.
Solution:
1. Get second account
2. Steal Ganking Catalyst fit from someone in CODE
3. Move Catalyst to system your mission is in.
4. Gank the teeny tiny little ship with your catalyst
5. harvest your own tears of joy and pride
6. Bask in the approval of your parents, peers and for good measure throw in a fistpump.
7. Finish mission
8. Earn your ISK |
Valkin Mordirc
771
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Posted - 2015.03.14 09:31:19 -
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Haha. XD I like that.
Regardless If SP Isn't plentiful on your alt. A RLML Caracle can easily kill an AF. The uh teeny tiny ship will go suspect when he takes your loot so a gank fit catty wouldn't be optimal.
#DeleteTheWeak
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1367
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Posted - 2015.03.14 09:51:12 -
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Those bottles are NOT cheap.
Price scales dependent upon volume necessary to store.
The 50 gal drums are frighteningly expensive.
Also gonna go with the no on the catalyst. You're gonna want something that has a bit better range for it's damage application just due to jump gate distances and whatnot, well assuming you want the quick rescue. Often times during the dance the pair will wander a goodly distance from the in-gate, so the backup tends to land a distance away.
I've had catalysts try to save the princess before and it tends to end with them warping off with their arse on fire due to a face full of drones, or the sudden realization that they aren't the only ones using small blasters.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Starrakatt
Hunter Killers.
Forsaken Asylum
234
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Posted - 2015.03.14 10:04:11 -
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Have a Mobile Depot, alternate PVP modules in cargo hold. Refit and kill the little pest.
Especially useful for static PVE ships I guess, like drone ships (sentries), since you can anchor the Mobile Depot as you start farming the red crosses.
I could be terribly wrong, never did this myself, or encounter someone who did to counter me...
Forsaken Asylum's ways
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1368
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Posted - 2015.03.14 10:37:47 -
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Also... a functioning Batphone is awesome.
I've had a couple of occasions in the past where it turned out the mission bear actually had friends nearby.
Their arrival changed the outcome from a doomed mission ship to 'oooh look at the pretty colors!' as my little frig went up in flames.
You don't need the special forces, sometimes a newbro who's willing to lend a hand can tip the scales in your favor.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
CODE.
12133
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Posted - 2015.03.14 11:50:27 -
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Robyn Hoodlum wrote:sodomize their pet spider
Oh, that brought back memories. Poor, poor Creepsie.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
499
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:45:20 -
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Make friends in system and fleet up to defend each other. Friends are more fun than alts.
There are all our dominion
Bookmarks in overview ~ Fleet improvements
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Brawlers Inc.
1526
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Posted - 2015.03.15 01:55:33 -
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I prefer the following:
1. Train into a Gila
2. Pvp fit the gila.
3. Run missions.
4. Kill the mission baiter.
New Player Placement Specialist and Scope Project FC.
Contact me for a free consultation.
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie's Space Mediation Service!
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
547
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Posted - 2015.03.15 03:14:34 -
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Better yet, have some fun with the mission baiter. Open a convo , pretend to be furious, give them ultimatums to leave now or else, at the last minute pretend to take mercy on them and offer to reach a peaceful solution, and just continue running the mission and not shooting at them. After a bit they realize they have been owned and go away shamefaced and in tears.
Elite PvE - Safety Green 4 Ever |
Clara Barcelo
Deadly Fingertips
Absolute Defiance
6
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Posted - 2015.03.15 03:18:33 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Better yet, have some fun with the mission baiter. Open a convo , pretend to be furious, give them ultimatums to leave now or else, at the last minute pretend to take mercy on them and offer to reach a peaceful solution, and just continue running the mission and not shooting at them. After a bit they realize they have been owned and go away shamefaced and in tears.
Elite PvE - Safety Green 4 Ever
Not if they take a mission item. Then yer boned. =P |
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
547
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Posted - 2015.03.15 04:25:51 -
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Clara Barcelo wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Better yet, have some fun with the mission baiter. Open a convo , pretend to be furious, give them ultimatums to leave now or else, at the last minute pretend to take mercy on them and offer to reach a peaceful solution, and just continue running the mission and not shooting at them. After a bit they realize they have been owned and go away shamefaced and in tears.
Elite PvE - Safety Green 4 Ever Not if they take a mission item. Then yer boned. =P
Just fail the mission and move on. Any decent mission runner has mega positive standings already. And remember, a mission griefer who isn't getting kills, is soon no longer to be a mission griefer. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1373
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Posted - 2015.03.15 04:40:05 -
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Actually we usually have a little mental timer going on. If no results occur by the time it goes ding we just move on to someone else. If a system seems dry we'll move on to another. I don't know about others but I tend to keep setups in many different systems at the same time just in case the fish aren't biting in a particular hole.
Also, it's not just about the kills Veers, it's about the fights. Some of my very favorites I have lost. So, no, we're not just gonna quit so long as humans do human things.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Leto Thule
Origin.
Black Legion.
2189
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Posted - 2015.03.15 05:17:54 -
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo wrote:Make friends in system and fleet up to defend each other. Friends are more fun than alts.
Sadly this will alienate most mission runners. Making friends involves being social.
Big Fat Forum Meanie and Thanatos Scammer
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
20428
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Posted - 2015.03.15 05:43:54 -
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Clara Barcelo wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Better yet, have some fun with the mission baiter. Open a convo , pretend to be furious, give them ultimatums to leave now or else, at the last minute pretend to take mercy on them and offer to reach a peaceful solution, and just continue running the mission and not shooting at them. After a bit they realize they have been owned and go away shamefaced and in tears.
Elite PvE - Safety Green 4 Ever Not if they take a mission item. Then yer boned. =P
Theres a joke here about Veers winning by rolling over and taking it.. I just know it.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vote Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10!
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
547
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Posted - 2015.03.15 06:25:59 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:Actually we usually have a little mental timer going on. If no results occur by the time it goes ding we just move on to someone else. If a system seems dry we'll move on to another. I don't know about others but I tend to keep setups in many different systems at the same time just in case the fish aren't biting in a particular hole.
Also, it's not just about the kills Veers, it's about the fights. Some of my very favorites I have lost. So, no, we're not just gonna quit so long as humans do human things.
Ya, but the implication is that if all the mission runners refuse to shoot at you, you will get bored and find something else to do. |
Starrakatt
Hunter Killers.
Forsaken Asylum
235
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Posted - 2015.03.15 07:01:02 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:Actually we usually have a little mental timer going on. If no results occur by the time it goes ding we just move on to someone else. If a system seems dry we'll move on to another. I don't know about others but I tend to keep setups in many different systems at the same time just in case the fish aren't biting in a particular hole.
Also, it's not just about the kills Veers, it's about the fights. Some of my very favorites I have lost. So, no, we're not just gonna quit so long as humans do human things. Ya, but the implication is that if all the mission runners refuse to shoot at you, you will get bored and find something else to do.
Human beings being what they are, this is NEVER going to happens, just saying.
Forsaken Asylum's ways
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2015.03.15 08:26:51 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:I prefer the following:
1. Train into a Gila
2. Pvp fit the gila.
3. Run missions.
4. Kill the mission baiter.
Ah yes I learned this the hard way. Not even concerned with the missiles...WHO KNEW that medium drones with no hull tracking bonus can apply nearly full damage to an AB fit armor AF? I didn't know, but I do now.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
142
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Posted - 2015.03.15 08:30:49 -
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Of course the problem is that no matter how well you're able to counter a single intruder, there's not much to be done when two logi alts land on grid with you. Sad that people have to play that way as it actually makes fights happen less. |
Chenguang Hucel-Ge
Exiled Tech
Space Monkey Protectorate
14
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Posted - 2015.03.15 08:34:11 -
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Errr, what? So, you want to say that people shoot suspect, then whine about suspect shooting back?
Seriously, I used this to create some sort of dead space back in the days, just looting wrecks on a-bit-alternate venture fit, getting engagement, then shooting their drones, forcing them to disengage. Hell, I could actually get myself some blood on the page. If only I'd fit a scrambler. Stupid carebear mentality forfeited that.
Oh, well, back to MWO. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
2494
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Posted - 2015.03.15 08:37:18 -
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Carebear is a mindset. How to PvE without being one? Play with the correct attitude.
This has been an admiral root wall-o-text free post.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Tasspool Harp
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
30
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Posted - 2015.03.15 09:23:15 -
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Robyn Hoodlum wrote:Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but it seems all I hear these days from mission runners is nonstop crying because of mission baiters. And since they mostly come here to complain, it is posted here instead of mission running. If this is the wrong place then please feel free to move it!
So where do I find all these non-stop cries and complaints ?
Robyn Hoodlum wrote:
Problem:
5. Salvages your wrecks
6. Steals mission loot
Not so much a problem as a minor annoyance or amusing distraction. But I forgive them as they often have cute ship names like "Little Thief". Sometimes I feel a pang of sympathy and set all my remaining wrecks to blue before I fly off.
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Iain Cariaba
1157
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:36:38 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Clara Barcelo wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Better yet, have some fun with the mission baiter. Open a convo , pretend to be furious, give them ultimatums to leave now or else, at the last minute pretend to take mercy on them and offer to reach a peaceful solution, and just continue running the mission and not shooting at them. After a bit they realize they have been owned and go away shamefaced and in tears.
Elite PvE - Safety Green 4 Ever Not if they take a mission item. Then yer boned. =P Theres a joke here about Veers winning by rolling over and taking it.. I just know it.
I was under the impression that the joke here is Veers....
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
I couldn't have said it better.
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Iroquoiss Pliskin
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
18
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:42:36 -
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Tasspool Harp wrote:Robyn Hoodlum wrote:Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but it seems all I hear these days from mission runners is nonstop crying because of mission baiters. And since they mostly come here to complain, it is posted here instead of mission running. If this is the wrong place then please feel free to move it!
So where do I find all these non-stop cries and complaints ? Robyn Hoodlum wrote:
Problem:
5. Salvages your wrecks
6. Steals mission loot
Not so much a problem as a minor annoyance or amusing distraction. But I forgive them as they often have cute ship names like "Little Thief". Sometimes I feel a pang of sympathy and set all my remaining wrecks to blue before I fly off.
I can confirm that setting all wrecks to blue as an act of sympathy is the primal cause in the loss of hair.  |
Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
CODE.
4832
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Posted - 2015.03.15 22:50:33 -
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Just mission PVP fit.
The Vexor, Vexor Navy, Ishtar, Dominix and Gila can all do it well.
As an occasional baiter, mission baiting is more fun when you don't always win.
Chaos. Opportunity. Destruction. Excitement... Vote #1 Sabriz Adoudel for CSM 10
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
23941
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Posted - 2015.03.16 01:20:37 -
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Robyn Hoodlum wrote:How to stop being a carebear but still do PvE
That's what I call a false dichotomy.
Sleep all day. Party all night. Never grow old. Never die. -óߦªß¦ç-ó
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Desudes
Adversity.
Psychotic Tendencies.
432
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Posted - 2015.03.16 01:31:33 -
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Robyn Hoodlum wrote:Problem:
1. You're bad
Solution:
1.Get good
fixed this for you
Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu?
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
149
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Posted - 2015.03.16 03:21:01 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Just mission PVP fit.
The Vexor, Vexor Navy, Ishtar, Dominix and Gila can all do it well.
As an occasional baiter, mission baiting is more fun when you don't always win.
Well, no fit is going to stand up to a guy with 3-4 alts packing logi and an orca for reshipping.
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Nicola Romanoff
Quantum Innovations Limited
7
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Posted - 2015.03.17 12:19:13 -
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I tend to just watch what I am shooting. If there is a mission item I rush in to collect as I shoot it. If someone turns up and starts ninja salvaging my wrecks I simply shoot the wrecks. Just read eve survival to know roughly when the item will drop and from what ship. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2015.03.17 12:33:36 -
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Have a carebearing alt nobody knows about.
A good signature always makes up for lack of content.
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Catalytic morphisis
Viziam
Amarr Empire
114
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Posted - 2015.04.01 09:56:28 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Better yet, have some fun with the mission baiter. Open a convo , pretend to be furious, give them ultimatums to leave now or else, at the last minute pretend to take mercy on them and offer to reach a peaceful solution, and just continue running the mission and not shooting at them. After a bit they realize they have been owned and go away shamefaced and in tears.
Elite PvE - Safety Green 4 Ever
Wrong, The best form of retaliation is to burn them down, Guaranteed if you kill the mission baiter they won't bother you again, This is why I have a rack of Medium neuts in my cargo Whenever I take the rattlesnake out mission running, aswell as a Web and Scram
Quad Boxing Trading Extroadinaire, Actual Link free solo PvP'er
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1478
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Posted - 2015.04.01 10:56:45 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Just mission PVP fit.
The Vexor, Vexor Navy, Ishtar, Dominix and Gila can all do it well.
As an occasional baiter, mission baiting is more fun when you don't always win. Well, no fit is going to stand up to a guy with 3-4 alts packing logi and an orca for reshipping.
Sometimes a good holler in local, or the trusty batphone is an easy counter to that.
Repping a suspect makes the logi go suspect. A third party can drop in and wax that logi without the main character being able to do ANYTHING to them. Nothing but a limited engagement tween the two, and the logi is still suspect.
Plus, a mini armada like that is a bit over the top. I can see a link alt and a logi guy, but if there's an orca involved it's most likely going to be off grid. Ultimately what you're talking about is a whole lot of effort to put into something that only has about a 1 in 8 or 10 chance of happening anyways.
I keep a thoughtgun next to the bed, fully loaded with nerdshot. Just in case.
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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
936
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Posted - 2015.04.01 11:46:56 -
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Really, if he's baiting you over and over with the same ship, you should just midly refit for him. So if he uses an exceptionally small ship, you can run the mission with a ship with a utility high and a heavy neut in there. Or if he's in something cruiserish, use a Domi or Rattlesnake and fit webs/paints. Literally every ship with fitted modules runs L4s np. Just there are people throwing themselves at you, stop complaining and kill them! |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1478
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Posted - 2015.04.01 11:58:10 -
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This works. I've been 'seal clubbed' by a mission runner before who saw me drop in on him.. he warps off and returns in a modified version of his mission ship... this time fitted for some pvp action, and summarily stomped the brown stuff out of my assault frigate.
Was I mad? Hell no. I got a fight that morning, and he got an ishkur kill and a tidy chunk of my bounty. We both won in a way.
I like to think of myself as a bonus burner mission. No LP, but the bounty payoff is great and the loot doesn't suck. What other mission ships are gonna drop T2 modules and faction/T2 ammo for you?
Oh, and strippers and drugs. Plus the occasional janitor.
I don't fly with my Fedo because I know that Tora would stalk me all Elmer Fudd like, and that's just creepy.
Plus, I have a hard time getting it out from under my bunk. I swear, one drunken mishap and the thing's scarred for life.
I keep a thoughtgun next to the bed, fully loaded with nerdshot. Just in case.
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Daerrol
Furtherance.
84
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Posted - 2015.04.01 16:27:50 -
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Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Just mission PVP fit.
The Vexor, Vexor Navy, Ishtar, Dominix and Gila can all do it well.
As an occasional baiter, mission baiting is more fun when you don't always win. Well, no fit is going to stand up to a guy with 3-4 alts packing logi and an orca for reshipping.
IDK who baits missions with 3-4 logi alts. |
Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
173
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Posted - 2015.04.03 05:39:41 -
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http://cloakybastard.blogspot.com/?m=1
Guy uses 4 toons and can run 4 spider domis or a swap orca and multiple logi. I doubt it's terribly common but I also doubt he's the only one.
#gameofalts
Daerrol wrote:Demerius Xenocratus wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Just mission PVP fit.
The Vexor, Vexor Navy, Ishtar, Dominix and Gila can all do it well.
As an occasional baiter, mission baiting is more fun when you don't always win. Well, no fit is going to stand up to a guy with 3-4 alts packing logi and an orca for reshipping. IDK who baits missions with 3-4 logi alts.
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Demerius Xenocratus
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
173
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Posted - 2015.04.03 05:42:20 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:This works. I've been 'seal clubbed' by a mission runner before who saw me drop in on him.. he warps off and returns in a modified version of his mission ship... this time fitted for some pvp action, and summarily stomped the brown stuff out of my assault frigate.
Was I mad? Hell no. I got a fight that morning, and he got an ishkur kill and a tidy chunk of my bounty. We both won in a way.
I like to think of myself as a bonus burner mission. No LP, but the bounty payoff is great and the loot doesn't suck. What other mission ships are gonna drop T2 modules and faction/T2 ammo for you?
Oh, and strippers and drugs. Plus the occasional janitor.
I don't fly with my Fedo because I know that Tora would stalk me all Elmer Fudd like, and that's just creepy.
Plus, I have a hard time getting it out from under my bunk. I swear, one drunken mishap and the thing's scarred for life.
Been meaning to fit a pvp variant of my mission hull. Same name and all. And I use a proteus currently so...
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