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Benjamin Olson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 03:13:00 -
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Crikey nothing makes me cry more than the turret layouts of EVE ships. Maller, we'll use the Maller as it makes me cry the most.
Maller has 5 turrets. If you only fit 4 so you can have NOS the ship looks SO ugly. Its got like one turret on the side of the bridge but not one on the other. Please make the turrets look respectable when you dont have all the ones you can fit!
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Kitti Kenzaki
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Posted - 2006.10.17 03:49:00 -
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And avoid turrets beeing fited on reactors or any other propultions units.
This make non sense : engines are the greatest source of vibrations in a ship.
Vibration = less precision when a turet fire on.
Example : the Omen and Moa hull series.
Purifier (Amarr Bomber) can fit 2 turrets, but if you do so, only one appear.
Finaly, Megathron series need some love for Turrets location.
Why dont modify the skin as bow lateral extension less deep and alow to fit 4 or 5 turrets as Armageddon do ?
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6Bagheera9
Shadows of the Dead
Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.17 04:18:00 -
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If you don't like the whole turrets on engine nacels thing, take a look at a stabber.
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Glarion Garnier
Solar Wind
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Posted - 2006.10.17 05:02:00 -
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fix the angel frig .. fix the angel frig.  (!you know what I mean!)
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr
1st Praetorian Guard
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Posted - 2006.10.17 07:44:00 -
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Turrets are placed so they cover 360 degree's. That will undoubtly make some asynchron placements from time to time.
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Ortu Konsinni
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.17 09:40:00 -
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I don't care about turret placement so much as I care about turret size. When you look at a dreadnought, its guns look scary. I wish small guns looked the size of current medium guns, and medium guns looked the size of current large guns. And just make large guns look bigger.
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: Taipan Gedscho on 17/10/2006 11:12:18
 Originally by: Ortu Konsinni
I don't care about turret placement so much as I care about turret size. When you look at a dreadnought, its guns look scary. I wish small guns looked the size of current medium guns, and medium guns looked the size of current large guns. And just make large guns look bigger.
yeah, for example the megathron has this two circle shaped, flat spots on its sides, where two turrets go.
no matter what guns you stick on, it just looks... too small for the ship.
WE WANT BIGGER GUNS! BLAM!
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XGS Crimson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 11:14:00 -
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yarrr i want mi mega neutrons to look like mini 1000mm!
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Flitz Farseeker
Gallente
Eve guardians
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Posted - 2006.10.17 12:54:00 -
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We want BIGGER guns.
Oh, and while you are working on this, can you also look at the placement of small guns (150 mm rails) on my Vexor - they seem to be a bit off-centre.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari
Worms Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.17 13:37:00 -
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on the rifter the second gun that sits on the roof just seems out of place. but i love the ones on the wingtips.
Omen has cool placement though(just need to get rid of that weird outrigger thing that hangs off the starboard side).
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Polinus
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Posted - 2006.10.17 15:06:00 -
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In fact I thing gu size is pretty good. Bigger ones will look ridiculous and cartoonish. Try look ata RL BB and see hoe their weapons are impressive even though they are not bigger than Eve ones when comapred to ship size.
Its how they are done not size that will make them look scary.
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Aira Phlux
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Posted - 2006.10.17 15:42:00 -
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On the placement theme ... the badger II has a floating sensor light at the front ... it should be on the sensor shaft close to it but the modeller obviously missed it. With badgers being a protected species and all I'm sure there are laws about fixing these things immediately heheheh
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Flitz Farseeker
Gallente
Eve guardians
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Posted - 2006.10.17 15:45:00 -
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I can't speak about battleships as I can only fly up to BCs. Frigate gun sizes seem pretty much okay for the size of the ships. It's the cruiser ones (mediums) that look a bit small, especially when mounted on a battlecruiser.
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Benjamin Olson
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Posted - 2006.10.17 21:00:00 -
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I could care less about turret 360 degree placement. Id rather have a good looking ship and have my guns shooting through my ship, than have ugly placement and having full coverage.
Note: Im not talking about where the turrets are, just HOW they are added to the ship. Get a maller or Coercer and open fittings.
Slowly add one gun then close fittings and look where its placed, if you add three guns to teh corecer it looks absolutely horrid.
At least keep gun placement symetrical if we cant have symetrical ships!
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.17 21:06:00 -
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alot of ships have this problem
a malediction has 2 missle points, but if you fit 2 turrets and 2 missles, the ship ends up lopsided with where the turrets end up.
Makes me feel like the devs never fit the ship like this in testing, which makes me wonder why I should both trying to fit it like that as well.
But in the end, graphical problems should be low priority. In pvp, I dont even see my ship, zoomed out to far. There are bigger issues to fix, which is sad, but they are more important.
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Eleni Shakira
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.10.17 21:22:00 -
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The Battlecruisers seem to be more about looks in placement than looks in use. The Cyclone's built in tilt is silly looking tho.
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aiaakii
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:57:00 -
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without actual range fan wtfCares really?
on the model? BFD its not like it has a weapons arc that matters.... 
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War Bear
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.28 23:09:00 -
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Tempest has good layout but the Typhoon is just silly. 3 guns on the nacelles and one on top and bottom just thrown up there. Granted its Minmatar so you can argue thats the height of their technology but c'mon ...
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Di Jiensai
Gallente
Caldari Navy Faction
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Posted - 2006.10.28 23:13:00 -
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If you just want to influence which hardpoints are used, when not using max guns possible, do it like this:
Fit 1 gun after another, look each time where they go, and remember.
now decide which hardpoint you want to leave free, remove all guns, and fit them again, but fit a dummy gun on the slot that you want to be empty.
after all guns are fitted, remove dummy, and voila, guns are placed as you want them.
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Cmdr Sy
Appetite 4 Destruction
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Posted - 2006.10.28 23:48:00 -
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Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 28/10/2006 23:48:25
I like the asymmetric turret placement on the Malediction. 
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King Jareth
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Posted - 2006.10.29 00:25:00 -
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So youre suggesting custom turret selections? Itll be cool if there are 3 or so loadouts we can pick from |
Kano Sekor
Amarr
S-44
Tre Kroner
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Posted - 2006.10.29 00:32:00 -
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lol i whould like to see anyone fit bigger guns on an enyo 4 turrets that are squeezed thight as it is.
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Bin Tol
The Clearwater Society
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Posted - 2006.10.29 10:57:00 -
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Edited by: Bin Tol on 29/10/2006 10:58:17
I completely agree with the turret sizes. At least with medium and large guns. And cruisers, and especially BCs and BSs the guns just look teeny tiny. BSs don't even look like they have guns fitted most of the time unless you zoom all the way in.
edit: Although I must admit I don't think the Stabber can take bigger guns. It looks ridiculous as it is.
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Shin Jai
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Posted - 2006.10.29 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: King Jareth
So youre suggesting custom turret selections? Itll be cool if there are 3 or so loadouts we can pick from
Yeah, that would be pretty cool indeed.
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Laboratus
Gallente
BGG
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.29 12:12:00 -
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I rather like the no symmetry look in eve.
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VekkTor
Legionari
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.29 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: VekkTor on 29/10/2006 15:58:13
Edited by: VekkTor on 29/10/2006 15:56:20
a cyclone which is frontally approaching the target doesn't even do the chaka chaka animation..talking about the 360 degrees excuse..
since this thread is much related to the close appearance of the game, i'd like to drop some opinions.
ok, eve is a tactic game in where u usually sacrify graphics ecc. but with the exception of the marvelous last years ships' models, this game is ugly to watch..
the first time i had fitted a ship i went like "omg why 2 turrets appear each one i fit?", and the first time i've fitted a cruiser was like "wtf those med turrets are identical to the small ones, and the way smaller compared to the ship"
i'd rather prefer watching a nice and proportioned turret pointing at a dumb direction and firing on the opposite side of the ship than watching 5 mini turrets out of 10 attached on the engines of a 30 times bigger platform firing in the right direction
it's like watching a RL battleship "fitted" with aa guns instead of their high caliber cannons
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Talon Calais
Gallente
Nubs.
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.29 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kano Sekor
lol i whould like to see anyone fit bigger guns on an enyo 4 turrets that are squeezed thight as it is.
Agreed, Enyo with 4x 150 IIs is very scary looking.
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Zaphroid Eulthran
Minmatar
Imperial Visions
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Posted - 2006.10.29 16:35:00 -
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What about the Prowler, when you fit a turret to it you dont get a turret on the hull at all, ive tried small and medium lasers and projectiles but no joy.
It will do damage but no graphics
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Aterna
Minmatar
M'8'S
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Posted - 2006.10.29 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Polinus
In fact I thing gu size is pretty good. Bigger ones will look ridiculous and cartoonish. Try look ata RL BB and see hoe their weapons are impressive even though they are not bigger than Eve ones when comapred to ship size.
Its how they are done not size that will make them look scary.
USS Iowa Battleship class. The guns are massive. easily take up 1/3 to 1/2 the deck space on the ship. How can you tell us that they aren't comparatively bigger then the guns on an EVE BS.
Dreadnought guns and frigate guns are accurately sized to the ship classes. Cruiser guns are small, but not too terribly bad. Where it gets ridiculous is on battlecruisers and battleships where the guns are so inconsequentially small that you have to zoom all the way in to squint at them.
And yeah, some ships need a turret placement tweak.
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Matst Ircar
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.30 11:04:00 -
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you should look at the ferox sometime.. it has a turret on the bottom little antenna thing on the right left side when it is facing you. Just kinda tacked onto an antenna...come on people.
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Tolomea
Gallente
5th Front enterprises
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.10.30 11:38:00 -
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Edited by: Tolomea on 30/10/2006 11:39:29
Originally by: Aterna
USS Iowa Battleship class. The guns are massive. easily take up 1/3 to 1/2 the deck space on the ship. How can you tell us that they aren't comparatively bigger then the guns on an EVE BS.
Dreadnought guns and frigate guns are accurately sized to the ship classes. Cruiser guns are small, but not too terribly bad. Where it gets ridiculous is on battlecruisers and battleships where the guns are so inconsequentially small that you have to zoom all the way in to squint at them.
And yeah, some ships need a turret placement tweak.
What she said, every word of it, the guns on my brutix are pathetic looking. But the BS's are so much worse, I don't even know where all the guns are on the mega, and I've looked, I just can't find the damn things.
Oh and it's possible that the frig guns are a lil large, take a look at a gal ceptor with 3 guns fitted, it's somewhat overkill.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.10.30 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: Twilight Moon on 30/10/2006 11:54:40
Why do so many people have a problem with asymmetrical fittings? If a guns needs to go somewhere for 360* (theres no "degrees" symbol on a keyboard is there?) coverage, then I'd rather have that, than having a Megathron (for example) looking like its chewing itself to shreds as its Neutron Blasters fire through the ship.
As for size of BS guns, I say enlarge them a bit, they're currently a bit puny. Try putting Large Neutron blasters on an Ishkur.....now that looks GOOD.
...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative.
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Siobahn
Caldari
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2006.10.30 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Twilight Moon
Edited by: Twilight Moon on 30/10/2006 11:54:40
Why do so many people have a problem with asymmetrical fittings? If a guns needs to go somewhere for 360* (theres no "degrees" symbol on a keyboard is there?) coverage, then I'd rather have that, than having a Megathron (for example) looking like its chewing itself to shreds as its Neutron Blasters fire through the ship.
But that already happens. My Harpy shoots through its wings when firing behind and above it. Don't even get me started on the Eagle/Moa.
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Joachim Winter
Gallente
Tommy Gunners
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.30 13:23:00 -
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My Navy Vexor doesn't show its 5th turret, which is kind of annoying tbh, but these things do get fixed eventually I suppose............
I mean the jaguar wsa well broken for ages but its okay now :)
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.10.30 13:38:00 -
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The worst is the Megathrons Turret layout.
The Turrets on the little wings in the back are so big that you can see untextured areas on their bottoms where they are atatched to the wings, and what in the blazes is up with that random turret sticking out of the rim in the front?
It's just not like there aren't a dozen better places on the ship to put turrets... 
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