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abcdasdasd	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:15:00 - [1] I love the fact that Eve makes player generated activities a highlight in this game. It is probably reason I can never seem to quit Eve for very long. The real, one single world envirnment makes players and their corps famous in our small Eve kind of way. It truly becomes a second world with history. But in loking at the player news page, the big article front and center is about a recession. The BoB/ASCN conflict is the BIGGEST news in a long time, so you would think that we would get real gritty news from the front nearly everyday. I think that this would add interest to 'real' player generated activity. As it was I had to scroll to the very bottom of the page to see the posting about the outbreak, under the archives section. Why not get players to be reporters I am sure many would love to do this.
Hinkledolph Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:17:00 - [2] Hard to write stories about node crashes I bet.
Taaketa Frist The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:24:00 - [3] Player can submit news items to the Interstellar Services department (I forget which one it is) and they cna review and post it provided its factual and has sources which they can contact to make sure statements are correct etc. -------------- Dang nabit
Mak'shar Karrde Minmatar UK Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:25:00 - [4] As much as I love EVE, News stories about the war would just be embarrassing for CCP. It's impossible for two large fleets to face off without crippling lag and node deaths. The problems have not been exaggerated. Even Seleene's great writeup in the C&A forum included several node crashes.
Beef Hardslab	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:28:00 - [5] "Here we are folks, looks like the battle is just about to get underway. Wow check out those fleets, that's really something else isn't it? Oh, here they go, look I think that one's goi~~~~~~"
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:42:00 - [6] Originally by: Mak'shar Karrde As much as I love EVE, News stories about the war would just be embarrassing for CCP. It's impossible for two large fleets to face off without crippling lag and node deaths. The problems have not been exaggerated. Even Seleene's great writeup in the C&A forum included several node crashes. There have been a few node crashes, and that is kind of unfortunate, but the fact that this type of player driven interaction happens at all in a MMOG still reflects well on CCP. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Sakura Nihil Tharsis Security	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:48:00 - [7] Imo, we need a group of players that are great covops players to just go out there, and start a true news corporation - we already have radio, TV, but news? The closest thing I can think of that's not "state-run" (i.e., Interstellar Correspondents) would be EVE-Tribune, or EVEnews, but IIRC they're just a collection of players ingame that work on other things for a living. Its better than nothing. Want Me ;)?
Emperor D'Hoffryn No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:59:00 - [8] There have been many a good battle without node crashes.....and then there have been minor battles with multiple node crashes... was in a 60vs60 fight with D2, and the node crashed 3 times in 10 minutes. I was in GQ2 for initial BoB invasion, with 3x people in local, and no node crash. Sometimes the behavior is just wacky. As for war news, ASCN did get sov in TCAG last i checked the map, in BoB space. Not like that really means much, but still, props to ASCN and BoB for both bringing it, despite the server problems. Originally by: Tuxford Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us
Kar'Dargo	Posted - 2006.10.17 21:59:00 - [9] Originally by: Sakura Nihil Imo, we need a group of players that are great covops players to just go out there, and start a true news corporation - we already have radio, TV, but news? The closest thing I can think of that's not "state-run" (i.e., Interstellar Correspondents) would be EVE-Tribune, or EVEnews, but IIRC they're just a collection of players ingame that work on other things for a living. Its better than nothing. Now that is a very interesting idea.
GeekTexas Amarr	Posted - 2006.10.18 00:04:00 - [10] Originally by: Emperor D'Hoffryn As for war news, ASCN did get sov in TCAG last i checked the map, in BoB space. Not like that really means much, but still, props to ASCN and BoB for both bringing it, despite the server problems. Who is winning the war? I would love more info on this fight.

Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.18 00:12:00 - [11] Originally by: Sakura Nihil Imo, we need a group of players that are great covops players to just go out there, and start a true news corporation - we already have radio, TV, but news? The closest thing I can think of that's not "state-run" (i.e., Interstellar Correspondents) would be EVE-Tribune, or EVEnews, but IIRC they're just a collection of players ingame that work on other things for a living. Its better than nothing. EVE-Radio is player run, EVE-TV is CCP run, unless I'm missing something, there's only player radio, no TV yet. A player news group would be interesting, but the members would likely get accused of being alts and spies, and unable to get the news due to being chased or blown straight to hell upon landing in a bubble after a jump. Maybe we need a new T2 ship, the Scout Ship. Require Racial frigate 5, Spaceship command 5 and Navigation 5. Base them off of shuttles, and give them no slots, no cargohold (well maybe 10m3), and a base speed of 1-1.5km/s or so. Light as a feather as well, and extremely agile, making them more agile than inties by a large margin, and they enter warp FAST (due to extremely fast speedup). Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Major Stormer Caldari Demon Womb Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.18 00:31:00 - [12] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Sakura Nihil Imo, we need a group of players that are great covops players to just go out there, and start a true news corporation - we already have radio, TV, but news? The closest thing I can think of that's not "state-run" (i.e., Interstellar Correspondents) would be EVE-Tribune, or EVEnews, but IIRC they're just a collection of players ingame that work on other things for a living. Its better than nothing. EVE-Radio is player run, EVE-TV is CCP run, unless I'm missing something, there's only player radio, no TV yet. A player news group would be interesting, but the members would likely get accused of being alts and spies, and unable to get the news due to being chased or blown straight to hell upon landing in a bubble after a jump. Maybe we need a new T2 ship, the Scout Ship. Require Racial frigate 5, Spaceship command 5 and Navigation 5. Base them off of shuttles, and give them no slots, no cargohold (well maybe 10m3), and a base speed of 1-1.5km/s or so. Light as a feather as well, and extremely agile, making them more agile than inties by a large margin, and they enter warp FAST (due to extremely fast speedup). Um, eve news is player run, and seperate to evetv, fyi. -------------------------- Above post is my opinion only and does not represent my corp/alliance.
Tommy TenKreds Animal Mercantile Executive	Posted - 2006.10.18 00:48:00 - [13] I would love to see player driven news of consistant editorial quality and regularity. This is something that is definitely still lacking in EvE. Fan sites never seem to offer the kind of services and news I am looking for and I am too busy and burned out from other hobbies to launch another fan site (I used to run a couple of TES fan sites a couple of years back). Eve News is the only site that comes close atm afaik, but the reporting there seems sporadic. Eve Radio only broadcasts once a week for a short roundup. I would also like to see quality financial news with expert analysis of cross-market performance. I spent half an hour looking for a server monitor that works the other day (Chribba's one didn't seem to want to update). If anyone is really keen to work on something along these lines, give me a shout. I'd love to lend support, funding, whatever I can to help it along. "If you kill all the wolves, you're gonna have a crapload of bunnies. And by bunnies I mean stupid people." Ask Ninja
RogueWing Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.18 01:07:00 - [14] Originally by: GeekTexas Who is winning the war? I would love more info on this fight. Depends on how you look at it. BoB has more kills, but ASCN has taken one (minor) system in BoB space. Seems to be a stalemate right now with both sides fighting in 2 main systems...GQ2 and TPAG. Only in ASCN would someone consider the solution to being short an office to be "Drop another Outpost"
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 01:17:00 - [15] Any 'reporters' near our fleets will be ganked on sight.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 01:18:00 - [16] Originally by: RogueWing Originally by: GeekTexas Who is winning the war? I would love more info on this fight. Depends on how you look at it. BoB has more kills, but ASCN has taken one (minor) system in BoB space. Seems to be a stalemate right now with both sides fighting in 2 main systems...GQ2 and TPAG. Anyone wanting a report on how the war is going should read this.
HostageTaker Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.18 01:24:00 - [17] Originally by: RogueWing Originally by: GeekTexas Who is winning the war? I would love more info on this fight. Depends on how you look at it. BoB has more kills, but ASCN has taken one (minor) system in BoB space. Seems to be a stalemate right now with both sides fighting in 2 main systems...GQ2 and TPAG. For a guy with a 0-kills and 4-deaths ratio, you seem to be well informed. But hey, at least you got one of the system names partly right. Now, if any neutral onlookers would like the cold hard facts of this war, I suggest you visit the BoB Killboard. (URL is in Corps section of forums) Stalemate you say? Hardly... >>> EvE-Online Wallpapers <<<
Kar'Dargo	Posted - 2006.10.18 03:30:00 - [18] Originally by: Blacklight Any 'reporters' near our fleets will be ganked on sight. Now what kind of attitude is that?? Clearly you can't be trusted to rule the universe! This is a thread trying to send clear facts to all the interested masses and the solution is Gank! Clearly, what ever we read then is propoganda and not the cold-hard truth.
Kar'Dargo	Posted - 2006.10.18 03:34:00 - [19] Originally by: Blacklight Anyone wanting a report on how the war is going should read this. If this is true then damn ASCN is getting their asses handed to them. That is a ridiculous ratio, they are getting BS's chewed up. But, again, on whose source of data do we beleive these statistics?
Taedrin Gallente Mercatoris Technologies	Posted - 2006.10.18 03:36:00 - [20] Originally by: Blacklight Any 'reporters' near our fleets will be ganked on sight. BoBs paranoia seems only to be surpassed by ASCNs...

Eveliddia Amarr The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.18 07:45:00 - [21] I so far prefer athe writings of Innonimate Nightmare, obviously he can't be at all the big ally news events but he has covered in delightful detail some of the biggest events in the last several months. If your looking for a good read and were not aware 0.0 Experiment
Jonathan Fisher Galactic Security	Posted - 2006.10.18 08:02:00 - [22] Originally by: Kar'Dargo Originally by: Blacklight Anyone wanting a report on how the war is going should read this. If this is true then damn ASCN is getting their asses handed to them. That is a ridiculous ratio, they are getting BS's chewed up. But, again, on whose source of data do we beleive these statistics? The data on ship losses is taken from both alliances' killboards. I am not allowed to link to killboards but do a google search and you should be able to find them. Taking into account that both sides sometimes neglect to post their losses, we look at the ASCN killboard to find BoB losses, and the BoB killboard to find ASCN losses. The data is additionally provided by inside information from both alliances. - EVE Tribune -
Wild Rho Amarr Black Omega Security	Posted - 2006.10.18 08:06:00 - [23] It's already been proven with past news reports, that the folks incharge of "offical" news will be greeted by a torrent of flames, complaints and abuse if they get one single (even insignificant) detail wrong or appear to show even a microscopic level of favour of one side over the other. There is also the issue of the node crashes as well which doesn't make great news stories either. I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it.
Niccolado Starwalker Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.18 08:24:00 - [24] Originally by: Kar'Dargo Originally by: Blacklight Any 'reporters' near our fleets will be ganked on sight. Now what kind of attitude is that?? Clearly you can't be trusted to rule the universe! This is a thread trying to send clear facts to all the interested masses and the solution is Gank! Clearly, what ever we read then is propoganda and not the cold-hard truth. NBSI. Thats the rule really. And in a war you dont trust anyone who dont belong to your own corp or alliance. And even there you can find spies. NBSI: Not blue shoot it. Besides, a Reporter is a spy by profession. A professional snoop, living on selling/giving out news. So they are pretty much considered dangerous to both sides in a war, simply because of it.
Kar'Dargo	Posted - 2006.10.18 12:19:00 - [25] Originally by: Jonathan Fisher Anyone wanting a report on how the war is going should read this. The tribune articles are actually very good, I have never seen it.
Magnus Thermopyle Chosen Path Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.18 12:51:00 - [26] A good rule for war in EVE is this: whoever is bragging about kill/death ratio, is the one who is losing. Not sure if it applies to BoB/ASCN war, but it very often is true.
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.18 13:01:00 - [27] I'm not sure if EVE Radio's doing any kind of commentary on the game these days, every time I tune in it's some dude sitting around and talking about pointless crap while queing up Rosa Helicopter to annoy everyone again. I literally tuned in once to some guy (not sure which DJ it was) in his room with a few friends, and they were chatting about stuff that happened to them and their friends. Zero EVE-related content at all. A LONG time ago, one of the first times I ever listened to ER, the DJ was out and about in the game, checking out some of the hotspots and chatting it up with folks in whatever local area he was in, reporting to listeners little tidbits of news from different areas. It was like having a real life news reporter (with music), which was actually really interesting to listen to, especially if you were stuck mining somewhere. That kind of random news is interesting. Front page player news items though get pretty tiresome, reporting the same details over and over, the only changes being the region, and the names of those involved. As much as I might care about a specific war, there's a hundred more in progress that are no more, or less, interesting to others. Warp Drive Active \| EVE: Nature Vraie
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2006.10.18 14:21:00 - [28] its kinda hard to report the news when the NBSI policy means the reporter will get shot. unless they submit their own node crashes err news.
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.18 14:28:00 - [29] Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker its kinda hard to report the news when the NBSI policy means the reporter will get shot. unless they submit their own node crashes err news. There's that as well. Understandable in a way, I mean if you were moving forces around would you want your position blown by some reporter? :) Warp Drive Active \| EVE: Nature Vraie
Bhaal Minmatar M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.18 14:49:00 - [30] Edited by: Bhaal on 18/10/2006 14:50:27 I'd like to know when EVE wars will be about territory rather than killboard stats... (planetary flight?) I've been on both sides, winning & losing territory means more than kill ratioÆs IMO. Not to discredit anything either side has done in this war. But like others have posted, news would simply be more fun (immersive) than looking at a killboard... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE My Hero I give this sig 3/10 for creativity and 10/10 for having me in it :) - Xorus



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