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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2015.03.20 07:34:09 -
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Drifters beware: if you come to my belt, I'm gonna sneeze in your direction! And you don't know what a hell of a crud I've got! n+ê=n+Çpéº-¦=n+ë
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ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
60
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Posted - 2015.03.20 07:47:44 -
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So does this mean you will now get podded by drifters so they can extract your corpse? |
Falken Falcon
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Posted - 2015.03.20 08:01:48 -
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ImYourMom wrote:So does this mean you will now get podded by drifters so they can extract your corpse? And by seekers
Aye, Sea Turtles
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Lachesiss
nomnomnom MOAR BABIES The Pursuit of Happiness
308
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:25:04 -
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So a CCP employee got drunk one night listening to War of the Worlds and had a bright idea.
FRICKEN A++++++++ BRIGHT IDEA!!!
soooo awesome
On the third day after your birth myself and my sister's will come to you and decide your fate.
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Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
234
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Posted - 2015.03.20 09:46:06 -
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I think we will have war of the clones soon. I wonder if there are second "me" somewhere...
"...genre is a definition, the definition in itself must have boundaries, the boundaries act as barriers, and the barriers are like walls, like the walls of a prisonn++..."
The Good, The Bad and The Bantam
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g0nz028
25 Steal Industries
0
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Posted - 2015.03.20 10:05:34 -
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Calm down. It's just the Borg. Concentrate alle weapons on one point on their ships and fire. Watch out for escaping sphears trying to change the past in the 2060s. You probably have to follow them into the space time anomaly. |
elitatwo
Eve Minions Poopstain Removal Team
594
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Posted - 2015.03.20 10:27:10 -
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Aralieus wrote:So then what role do the Circadian Seekers play in all this?
As of now, they start to drop some stuff with a weird alien name on it, maybe even tied into baking that entosis link.
As for the Tyrannos, I believe that we have been looking in the wrong place.
There is that new wormhole exit thingy that lead into a place that looks like Thera but we cannot enter those. The question should not be where that leads to but 'when'?
But I don't want to get into temporal mechanics right now or I will be having a monologue for the rest of the conversation
The 'Others' might be 'accended' Tyrannos that simply exist outside of phase in a realm beyond our limited human comprehension and they need the bodies to be in phase with our space-time, which would be the easiest explanation.
I wouldn't dismiss temporal displacement also but I should stop now or someone might get the idea I am cookoo..
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Avaelica Kuershin
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Posted - 2015.03.20 11:18:45 -
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Tzar Sinak wrote:First the sov changes which leave people wondering how they will use/deploy their capital ships. Some even wondering if they should sell or melt them down.
Fozzy refers people to the keynote when questioned about caps.
Seagull not only specifically addresses caps as desirable but necessary (sorry, paraphrasing)
Then the trailer...
So perhaps null sov is going to get an interesting shake up in which it's not just other corps that are a threat. What I'm also wondering is whether Empire space will also get a shake up... and what tears will ensue. |
Anthar Thebess
969
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Posted - 2015.03.20 11:45:49 -
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Hauled 100 capsulers bodies near drifter , and dropped into the space
Capital Remote AID Rebalance
Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
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Titti Sabezan
SYNDIC Unlimited
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Posted - 2015.03.20 11:47:26 -
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Just a few thoughts, based on the trailer:
* It appears that a New Powerbloc is entering "our" volume of New Eden.
* This group are substantially more powerful than existing (non-Jovian) ships (And it looks possible that they out-gun the Jovian ships, since the trailer implies that they have been able to carry out an offensive operation in Jove space)
* They appear to be "harvesting" bodies, for an unknown purpose (speculatively, for re-using for their own embodying purposes)
* Clearly, if they want bodies (& Things to Blow Up), they will do better in hi-sec space, where there are inhabited planets and stations, and the 4 "empires".
So, this development could well see the End of hi-sec and of faction warfare because ... well, why fight each other when there are fleets of ships killing everything they come across. More, since one of their frigates can Alpha a player BS, fighting them becomes a little redundant.
Capsuleers will have to flee to null-sec if they want to survive. Almost all production will become player-based and organisations like the Sisters will cease to exist, while the NPC pirate corps will be able to become stronger.
All of which, logically, would mean that only they (the NPC pirates) will be originating any new ship designs, and these will be kept only for themselves. So that ships we have are what we will be fighting the Sleepers/Drifters with, and the BP-Os we have are all that ever there will be now, with their being copied off for new users. The NPC corps will cease to exist, so all those players will need to join a player corp, and new players will need to start in lo-sec or null-sec or risk being blown away and used as biomass the instant they undock.
Mining, on the other hand, (since asteroid fields will presumably still exist in hi-sec) will become a high-risk activity, with some ore prices rising accordingly (and an entirely new face to Hulkageddon, since the gankers will be looking for Hulks, and staying away from the insta-kill enemies. |
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Ro Fenrios
Armilies corporation Balcora Gatekeepers
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Posted - 2015.03.20 12:08:29 -
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I wonder what part Jovians play in this. Was that explosion part of Others eliminating Jovians so that they could not help capsuleers or the empires in face of this new threat? Jove posses superior technology that could even the odds when it comes to fighting drifters, but their own numbers have been too low. Sharing technology with capsuleers and empires has happened before, but now there are no Jove around anymore to do that.
Are they all dead? Hiding? How about those three jove motherships, what is their fate? Was jove stargates going offline self defense measure or doing of Others?
So many questions... |
Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1214
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Posted - 2015.03.20 12:15:52 -
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ImYourMom wrote:So does this mean you will now get podded by drifters so they can extract your corpse?
Hopefully.
And may that activity carry over to other NPC's as well.
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Taronyu Eywa
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:11:05 -
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Really hope this is the beginning of something huge. I think this Universe needs to be flipped on its head and shaken up, it would really put the lemon back in EVE.
Taronyu
Freight and Logistics Division
Caldari Provisions
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
1122
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:25:37 -
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Circumstantial Evidence wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3060a8NkOk WATCH THIS NOW I see this and all I think to myself is, "Why is CCP not producing a TV series with someone?" They are, it will just take "EVE:Forever" before we get to see the first episode. It was announced at 2013 fanfest. Excellent. I look forward to the increased number of players as a result.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
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SOV is stagnant because Low Sec is not the next step from High Sec and a viable place to grow alliances to the point they can challenge Null alliances.
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:36:28 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Now for the big question; what are the "Other"s?
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However, the Drifters lend important clues to this: their "Corporation", the "Vigilant Tyrannos", along with their names (Apollo and Artemis Tyrannos) give a huge and interesting possibility to their origin.
They`re greek? Then they are really a threat to mankind. Going bankrupt, taking all their allies down with them and such.
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Michael Pawlicki
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:36:37 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:ImYourMom wrote:So does this mean you will now get podded by drifters so they can extract your corpse? And may that activity carry over to other NPC's as well.
The explanation for pirates not podding you is that they dont want a genocidal immortal maniac coming after them because they made you loose an implant. For sansha it doesn't make a huge amount of sense though since Kuvakei is pissed with capsuleers.
Back to the topic at hand, THEYRE CLIMBING IN YO WINDOWS AND SNATCHIN YO BODIES UP!
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Titti Sabezan
SYNDIC Unlimited
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:39:29 -
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CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids -- I like this sentiment :: it sums EvE up -- there are fat kids being provided with ant hills and glasses, and then the bigger buffer kids come along and wreck the ant hills and take the glasses and break them. It's the sandbox game where you're re-enacting real life. Which is why having the Drifters come along and simply tear down all the fat kids' houses will reinvigorate the game. People will have to choose between abandoning 8 years' of development of carebear characters, and Manning Up and going head-to-head with the Goons and PLs of the universe. |
Arla Sarain
355
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Posted - 2015.03.20 13:48:19 -
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Seekers scan gates for activity, fewer jumps -> use the Caroline Nuke on those systems.
Fewer systems - herd capsuleers.
Once the capsuleer density is high and well distributed, bring the Mother Space Meat Mincer for an all out body good good time ala Reapers.
Shoot capsuleers Get bodies ???? Profit
Repeat (we're immortal, so they prolly think we wouldn't mind).
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Fistula
Reliables Inc DARKNESS.
13
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Posted - 2015.03.20 14:00:37 -
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Arla Sarain wrote:Seekers scan gates for activity, fewer jumps -> use the Caroline Nuke on those systems.
Fewer systems - herd capsuleers.
Once the capsuleer density is high and well distributed, bring the Mother Space Meat Mincer for an all out body good good time ala Reapers.
Shoot capsuleers Get bodies ???? Profit
Repeat (we're immortal, so they prolly think we wouldn't mind).
Until now, they do not attack unless provoked. I tried to attempt a communication with a Drifter battleship today. The pilot did not answer my call. I even dropped a frozen a corpse but no reaction (even if the corpse have been scanned by the seeker drone). Which means that they do not accept all kind of bodies.
I am thinking about a parano+»a they may have, affecting their action by being feared we trap them. In fact, if they do not attack, I think it is because they fear us more than we fear them.
Wait a minute and try to understand them : We have been able to destroy some of their ships, without having been aggressed by them. It is our expansion and violence pulsion which may lead to a war against with this new group.
I am suggesting a warp to Jovian space. 5 ly can be reached in around 28h. The only way to understand their links to Caroline's Star would be to join this place by ourselve and see if they have any activity there. |
Komodo Askold
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
328
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Posted - 2015.03.20 14:04:28 -
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Oh my freakin' everything. I think I just became supernova.
Wow CCP. You just surpassed yourselves. |
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Less Miserable
Peasant Preparatory Institute
2
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Posted - 2015.03.20 14:24:43 -
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Ro Fenrios wrote:I wonder what part Jovians play in this.
I wonder how the Society of Conscious Thought fits into this.
Sisters of Eve are, if I remember my epic arc correctly, very interested in SoCT.
Sisters are in Thera, for unknown reason.
SoCT are supposedly Jovians.
SoCT has sov in Geminate.
Has anyone noticed anything there, in SoCT space? |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
2025
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Posted - 2015.03.20 14:31:27 -
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Super Stallion wrote:Wait a minute... they are all but guaranteed one kill from their super weapon. How are we to reduce their numbers if they decide to increase their force?
we provide them with only defective goons bodies... within 3 months they will want the jovian dicease back instead.
"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"
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Titti Sabezan
SYNDIC Unlimited
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Posted - 2015.03.20 14:52:24 -
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Is it not possible that, having the tech to harvest and reinvest bodies, the Drifters or whoever also have the tech to perma-kill capsuleers ? We would only know when someone could be proved to have been in a battle and not to have been restored to their clone. |
Cleanse Serce
Lonesome Capsuleer
17
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Posted - 2015.03.20 15:59:16 -
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I've read a couple of things, but i really can't see through all this Lore.
So what i know is that Jovians are : -technologically advanced, and are quiet elusive. - suffering from a genetic desease
When the desease started multiple things were attempted to cure it, and one of those is that some of the Jovians took the path of W-space to find a cure in there. --> called Sleepers.
So it's not that surprising if we see Jovian structure as "supposedly" Sleeper structures. (unidentified structure)
And therefore what the video tends me to think is that sleepers found a way to reanimate dead bodies and made them the actual Drifter pilots.
But what i can't understand is where the hell are ACTUAL sleepers ? We only saw their drones at this point, and drifter pilots seems to be "zombies".
Did they managed to upload their minds in somesort of gigantic super-computer from which they control their drones and control the re-animated corpses ? Or are they downloading their mind in the body they collect as the repair them ?
Or am i completly missing something ?
Or am i just wasting my time with this Lore !! :(
(sry for bad english !) |
Titti Sabezan
SYNDIC Unlimited
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Posted - 2015.03.20 16:59:44 -
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From he FanFest stream just now -- the new story is going to be something which players will "enjoy".
As a carebear, and noting that over 95% off the player-base are PvP-centred (as noted from the Keynote presentation yesterday), this can only mean a major close-down of the non-PvP activity, so that all the carebears are made to grow Up. The question will be whether this will be the closure of hi-sec, or the simple expansion of null-sec rules throughout New Eden. |
Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2015.03.20 17:08:58 -
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Titti Sabezan wrote:From he FanFest stream just now -- the new story is going to be something which players will "enjoy".
As a carebear, and noting that over 95% off the player-base are PvP-centred (as noted from the Keynote presentation yesterday), this can only mean a major close-down of the non-PvP activity, so that all the carebears are made to grow Up. The question will be whether this will be the closure of hi-sec, or the simple expansion of null-sec rules throughout New Eden.
highly doubtful, since its been totally about the A.I = pve..
nobody can even try to look like a drifter, seeker, or fly their ships
the A.I is coming for us.. that's pve
in eve its basically advanced pve.
use your pvp-skills to kill this new super A.I pve
could eventually be Super Cap level content.
closure of hi-sec would kill everything they're working on when it comes to getting new players and keeping them.
more than anything to me it looks like the threat is all over new eden, no one is safe from these things, and even wormhole space seems to be even more dangerous just due to fact that the "super mothership/structure" is there or somewhere lurking..
its coming.. prepare to meet your maker. |
Joan Miles
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2015.03.20 17:53:13 -
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Soooo can we get to "reroll" our character as a Drifter clone when we are killed and harvested by the Drifters/Others? Do it CCP
You know capsuleer perma dies and is "reborn" into a new faction associated with the new entities. Maybe even be at war with the empires since he we won't be human anymore but instead controlled by the Others.
New Skill : "Tin foil hat construction" Reduces chance of being harvested by drifters by 20% per skill level. |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
598
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Posted - 2015.03.20 18:00:38 -
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I am looking at this from another angle (for a moment).
Jovians granted the gift of the pod and we pilots were fortunate enough to survive the process to use them. Since we abuse them freely without really thinking about the pod, what if the Jovians were using us as a long term experiment? Perhaps over time, while we are mentally strong, what if the Jovians were subtly using our genetic materials to recreate themselves? Instead of me being a Caldarian, I have slowly become a Jovian-Caldarian mixture?
The original poster has excellent ideas about the deep rooted lore. Perhaps the Jovians realized the Other (and its ~army~) have gotten too powerful and thus attempted to contain them through shutting down the various star gates. Perhaps the two sides waged a quick but powerful war that created Caroline's Star and the shattered planets as casualties. But instead of winning, the Jovians finally lost and the Other is free.
And so we pod pilots might continue the epic war against them, not as a pure pod pilot, but perhaps as a partial Jovian.
Just a thought. |
Soldarius
Kosher Nostra The 99 Percent
1181
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Posted - 2015.03.20 20:06:42 -
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Eve Online - 2015: Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Elyia Suze Nagala
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2015.03.21 02:35:33 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3060a8NkOk WATCH THIS NOW (will write up details soon) -Uriel Also, look at this shot- the Tyrannos are not coming from the Sleeper construct.
Okay, I'm back and this time with details............. Quote:So, in short:
- The Drifters are the Others - They need bodies and biomass to create bodies to use - Sleepers, Jovians, and capsuleers alike are being taken to make bodies - Tyrannos/Drifters are the Other's army, after his first attemp failed. Quote:Theoryrcrafting portion:
- The Tyrannos are the Tyrants - The Others are the members, having hidden their minds in the Sleeper construct at the fall of the Second Empire - The Other in Jamyl is the head of the Tyrants- tinfoil here, but it could be Miko Bour.
Anyhow, enjoy! I know I am- this is amazing!
OKay this is my working take on things. I agree with everything you said but adding to it.
1. Sansha is also working for, controlled by, or is manipulated by an 'Other' He may or may not have direct contact with Drifter/Others, but I am assuming he is working in tandem with the Drifters. 2. Sansha used WH generating tech to invade Jove space/W-space to aid 'Others' with their goal of uniting the empire. The Jove have resisted their attempts to gain the upper hand, so the "Others' A.K.A 'Drifters" A.K.A. Tyrants say we can't get the Jove to submit so time to clean the slate. Sansha is sent to invade and annihilate the Jove. (Alternatively, its possible as stated in the film that the Sleepers bodies are all failing them and they need new bodies, and/or want to leave their construct.) (Alternatively, the Sleepers were resisting the Others and with them all dead the Others are freed to do as they wish.) 3. Capsuleers are also given motives to ignorantly aid in this endeavor, the sleeper tech gathering competition so many happily assisted sponsored by the empires. This gave Sansha coordinates needed and/or destroyed countless Sleepers. 5. The few Jove left outside the construct are unable to mount a powerful enough defense to prevent Sansha from getting to the tech/object and he the eventually destroys Caroline's Star. He detonates the devices and the majority or all remaining Jove are wiped out. This maybe with the exception of those living in the far Northern constellations, whom think they were successful at great cost in repelling him. This "pulse" from the star being composed by some form of super-luminal energy or matter, additionally damages the cloaking devices on the structures around New Eden hidden by the 3rd Empire Jove. (Alternatively, the ancient coordinates recovered by capsuleers told the Sleepers were to look for the Observatories.) It could've also killed any Jove physically connected to the Construct. Kind of like having your plug pulled while being "Jacked" into the Matrix. At the same time the Sleeper behavior is modified as the drones are controlled by the 'Others' to harvest Jove bodies. 6. The Sleeper drones now controlled by the Others gather Jove bodies and start making hybrid Jove for them to take physical form in and are successful. 7. Drifters/Others now return to Empire space and are now forced to deal with their next issue. The heavily corrupted Jove DNA and an unruly bunch of capsuleers. So why not start harvesting them for DNA/new army (end of trailer).
That's my working theory. There's another point or two that needs mentioning though after seeing the contents of the cinematic. 1. The Jovian stargate shown was clearly most similar in construction to the historical Jovian vessels we are use to seeing from the first decade of Eve. They are built similarly to ships of the 3rd Empire. 2. The Drifter BS hanger bay and the massive structure its located in (around 1:00 minute in) is designed or shows characteristics of architecture similar to the Observation Towers and is likely older tech, 2nd Empire. 3. Jove bodies from the Construct are mostly Organic (1:10) and are harvested then "Borged" into Drifters. 4. CCP carefully picked which quotes to use in this film. I think we may want to take them as literally as possibly. |
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