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Witchway
Hard Knocks Inc. Hard Knocks Citizens
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Posted - 2015.03.21 11:01:51 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Dear everyone giving corbexx crap about this: you need to step back and check yourselves. corbexx was a wspace veteran while most of you were still running level 4s in T1 fit drakes. At least he s being up front here, unlike other groups who spend 95% of there time in NS but still call themselves wh corps.
At least he's being upfront about what?! He got called out on a very public live panel less than a few hours after the announcement that he won. NOT BEING UP FRONT is the main reason people are reacting the way they are.....
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Shilalasar
Dead Sky Inc.
151
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Posted - 2015.03.21 11:15:18 -
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Adriana Nolen wrote:now it makes sense... everything that has changed in w-space in the last year
They are setting up for the WHCFC vs CFC war. |
Zappity
Stay Frosty. A Band Apart.
1886
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Posted - 2015.03.21 11:19:14 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Dear everyone giving corbexx crap about this: you need to step back and check yourselves. corbexx was a wspace veteran while most of you were still running level 4s in T1 fit drakes. He doesn't deserve the flak he's getting here in the slightest, especially after how well he's been doing on the csm so far.
At least he s being up front here, unlike other groups who spend 95% of there time in NS but still call themselves wh corps. I have zero doubts that corbexx will continue to be an outstanding wspace csm representative. Upfront? Hilarious. I'd be interested in hearing your definition of deceptive. Corbexx just trolled the wormhole community hard.
He will still be a good CSM. But who will he be representing?
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Aivo Dresden
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
417
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Posted - 2015.03.21 12:27:38 -
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The main concern I have is that he purposefully misrepresented himself running in to the CSM elections. I wish him the best in GSF, but the violation of trust is significant. I voted for a WH representative, not a GSF representative. The colour of the banner does matter. I will not be voting for him again. |
Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
1156
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Posted - 2015.03.21 13:07:28 -
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corbexx wrote:So first yes Corbexx will be joining goonswarm.
I'll be playing more on my alts now than him, which I was sort of doing anyway. One of the main issues of being on the the CSM is that when ever you log in you get bombarded with convos and mails. It makes it actually hard to play the game I enjoy very hard.
I'll still be in w space with my alts in several wormhole's. As alot know I have characters in 4 different wormholes so please don't think just cos Corb is in goons I won't be in W-space.
I'll still be working for W space so dont worry there.
I have a couple idea's and projects lined up already on stuff i'd like to start with.
Bombarded with mails is a part of the CSM deal. I'd like to know how joining nullsec, getting assigned a role that takes up probably 70% of a persons playtime (diplo), rectifies that issue?
I publicly chewed out one guy who ran for CSM who was a nullsecer trying to pretend to be a wormholer. I remember what I said too. "Wormholes don't need an alt, they need a main".
Now was what you did completely asinine? Yes. Less in what you did, and more in how you did it. Ultimately, you have to enjoy the game. But publicly putting on a show like you did actually harms the game, your friends, even CCP.
How?
There was a significant push to get people to vote and that there vote matters. What you did on day 1 is showed the people how worthless their vote was and damaged a lot of the work done to get people to vote. You disenfranchised people from both running and voting in CSM. You do crap like that before going to poles, not afterwards, especially if this was premeditated (which it was). You just took a dump on CCP's progress on getting people to vote, and the sad thing is that.. well you are smiling at it.
We want the game to succeed, and public stunts don't bring people into the game, they drive them away from it. You do good work, but you lost face with a good chunk of the game (besides wormholers, because now people in the game and out of the game just don't trust you). Work be damned you lost face and the trust of a lot of people. You took a sh-t on the voting process and tossed peoples voting confidence in the garbage. You hurt an entire institution because you gamed the voting system.
If there is something I'm irked at, its that. Damned where the hell you decide to go, but you don't do it like that.
Yaay!!!!
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Steven Hackett
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
106
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Posted - 2015.03.21 13:45:56 -
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... and people wonder why I think the CSM is bad for EVE?
If you can't even trust your candidates to be upfront with you when you are voting for them, you can't trust them to represent you.
So congratulation to Corbexx on ruining the trust between you and the people you are supposed to work with/for, all because you cared more about getting reellected than being honest. This distrust will surely make your job easier.
Now, make sure to rework WH PVE with all the experience you have from your alt farming corporations. Large scale pvp warfare is something we can only assume you didn't care much about anyway. |
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Hoplite Brigade
79
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Posted - 2015.03.21 14:08:35 -
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I think the sentiment seems to be - why make the first act as a CSMX member elected on a 'I represent wormholers' ticket is to announce (in a CSM member capacity) your new allegiance to a Null Sec block, giving the strong impression that the CFC have 'gained' another rep on the CSM and certainly giving them a major PR stunt.
As others have mentioned if you wanted to join the CFC why not use an alt to do that? There is a strong emphasis on a CSM 'defection' from both the CFC and your own actions.
I don't know if I would be reassured if I were a wormhole player. |
Michael1995
Lazerhawks
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Posted - 2015.03.21 14:24:01 -
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Steven Hackett wrote:Now, make sure to rework WH PVE with all the experience you have from your alt farming corporations..
Something something wants to remove C5 escalations completely)))
One does not simply buy their way into Goonswarm.
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Andrew Jester
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
1086
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Posted - 2015.03.21 15:13:31 -
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there are no repercussions from this if he doesn't want to run. Do you nerds really think you can do something about it? lol
suck it up and enjoy the ride
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Peter Moonlight
Lazerhawks
142
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Posted - 2015.03.21 16:56:25 -
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Michael1995 wrote:Steven Hackett wrote:Now, make sure to rework WH PVE with all the experience you have from your alt farming corporations.. Something something wants to remove C5 escalations completely))) Lol if he did, they would kick him from goons.. Then again Repercussus has C6 farm with a lot of dudes so maybe all goons switch to C6 so we can farm them. |
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Ziirn
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
42
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Posted - 2015.03.21 17:02:27 -
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Very very ****** move. If he cant play on his main why just not keep him in NOHO. I didnt vote on him to get another Goon on csm. I wanted someone with no ties to nullsec alliances.
wtb vote of misstrust function! |
Mike Azariah
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.21 18:25:29 -
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You voted for a man, not a ticker. A man who worked hard over the past year and kept in constant communication with folks or have you thrown all the work he did with round-tables and such out with the change in his alliance/corp?
So the goons crowed about a PR coup. So what? Poor things needed a boost after failing to get any candidates in as permanent seats,
I have worked with Corbexx for a year and I do not doubt for a single moment that he will continue to represent wormholes and, more importantly, THE WHOLE DAMN GAME.
m
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Axloth Okiah
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
600
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Posted - 2015.03.21 18:36:15 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:You voted for a man, not a ticker. A man who worked hard over the past year and kept in constant communication with folks or have you thrown all the work he did with round-tables and such out with the change in his alliance/corp?
So the goons crowed about a PR coup. So what? Poor things needed a boost after failing to get any candidates in as permanent seats,
I have worked with Corbexx for a year and I do not doubt for a single moment that he will continue to represent wormholes and, more importantly, THE WHOLE DAMN GAME.
m It shows something about the man when he purposefully withholds such thing from his voters only to make a big show of showing them a finger.
Many wormholers are also concerned whose interests is he gonna represent when it comes to the new structures or ship rebalancing.
W-Space Realtor
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Ziirn
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
42
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Posted - 2015.03.21 18:41:33 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:You voted for a man, not a ticker. A man who worked hard over the past year and kept in constant communication with folks or have you thrown all the work he did with round-tables and such out with the change in his alliance/corp?
So the goons crowed about a PR coup. So what? Poor things needed a boost after failing to get any candidates in as permanent seats,
I have worked with Corbexx for a year and I do not doubt for a single moment that he will continue to represent wormholes and, more importantly, THE WHOLE DAMN GAME.
m
actually I did vote half based on ticker (not nullsec alliance). If he had been honest instead of waiting til csm were announced things would of been different. Then he would of either lost or won as a Goon WH representative. How can I trust him to do whats best for wormholes and not follow Goon agenda?
Hes done a good job last year, I will give him that. But he should of been open about him going to join Goons during the election. |
Zraqu Cirta
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
6
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Posted - 2015.03.21 18:47:26 -
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Peter Moonlight wrote:Michael1995 wrote:Steven Hackett wrote:Now, make sure to rework WH PVE with all the experience you have from your alt farming corporations.. Something something wants to remove C5 escalations completely))) Lol if he did, they would kick him from goons.. Then again Repercussus has C6 farm with a lot of dudes so maybe all goons switch to C6 so we can farm them.
You sound mad.
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Adarnof
Free Trade Monopoly You Are Being Monitored
74
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:03:03 -
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Mike Azariah wrote:You voted for a man, not a ticker. A man who worked hard over the past year and kept in constant communication with folks or have you thrown all the work he did with round-tables and such out with the change in his alliance/corp?
So the goons crowed about a PR coup. So what? Poor things needed a boost after failing to get any candidates in as permanent seats,
I have worked with Corbexx for a year and I do not doubt for a single moment that he will continue to represent wormholes and, more importantly, THE WHOLE DAMN GAME.
m
We voted for a man from wormholes, living in wormholes, whose primary occupation was wormholes, whose primary concern would continue to be wormholes for the entirety of his term. Having him ship his main to a null block day 1 (day zero?) is a slap in the face to the voters.
corbexx wrote:I'll still be in w space with my alts in several wormhole's. As alot know I have characters in 4 different wormholes so please don't think just cos Corb is in goons I won't be in W-space.
I'll still be working for W space so dont worry there.
Corbexx, you did a fantastic job last year. But I wasn't planning on voting for a guy with alts in several wormholes, I wanted a main. I look forward to seeing these projects of yours, only time will tell if you're able to stay focused on wormholes the whole year. Being a null diplo can keep you rather busy. |
smokeAjoint
C0DE.. Shadow Politics
62
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Posted - 2015.03.21 19:41:57 -
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Wormgate scandal
**-álegalize it**
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
4088
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Posted - 2015.03.21 20:02:21 -
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I removed some replies to an edited out part of a post. In other words, real life politics have no place on this forum.
ISD Ezwal
Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Peter Moonlight
Lazerhawks
143
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Posted - 2015.03.21 20:41:52 -
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Zraqu Cirta wrote:Peter Moonlight wrote:Michael1995 wrote:Steven Hackett wrote:Now, make sure to rework WH PVE with all the experience you have from your alt farming corporations.. Something something wants to remove C5 escalations completely))) Lol if he did, they would kick him from goons.. Then again Repercussus has C6 farm with a lot of dudes so maybe all goons switch to C6 so we can farm them. You sound mad. Haha you sound mad bro, maybe your farmhole had a bad day at some point. |
Ilaister
Absolutely Certain
166
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Posted - 2015.03.21 21:43:13 -
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Those defending Corbexx need to understand that the reason for the posts questioning him are not polarized. Nobody with any sense hates him, nobody has questioned his contribution in the past CSM. Infact we quite rightly point him out as one of the hardest working reps on one of the best CSMs we've ever had (that coming from both the playerbase and CCP). He is a nice bloke (standard, he's a Brit we expect no less) with amazing dress sense etc etc. I don't expect any of that to change.
The issue for me personally, as far as there is one, is the PR side. He's not trolled us, Goons have. And he let them use him for a stunt - they are lapping at our tears and WH tears:best tears as we saw with the mass changes. They don't like us and we don't like them. Corbexx knows this much at least, and cannot have expected a different reaction from the people who voted him in last year; the people that gave him this opportunity in the first place. What does that say about his attitude to us as players/his voters? To WH space in general?
In lieu of any real explanation as to why he made this move, what this tells me is Corbexx is a pawn, and wants to play at the big boys table, leveraging his work in the past year for dinner with the Mittani and connections with people that really exert influence over the game. Not wormholers. We are marginal at best and have to accept it.
Regardless, you had my vote and you likely will again next year if you produce like you did for us before. It's not as if we have anyone better to stand for us. Yet.
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Maxxor Brutor
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
65
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Posted - 2015.03.21 22:25:37 -
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All I'm gonna say is that I'm sure Corbexx had good intentions. |
Bronya Boga
Isogen 5
572
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Posted - 2015.03.22 00:22:53 -
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Ilaister wrote: The issue for me personally, as far as there is one, is the PR side. He's not trolled us, Goons have. And he let them use him for a stunt - they are lapping at our tears and WH tears:best tears as we saw with the mass changes. They don't like us and we don't like them. Corbexx knows this much at least, and cannot have expected a different reaction from the people who voted him in last year; the people that gave him this opportunity in the first place. What does that say about his attitude to us as players/his voters? To WH space in general?
Huh... I didnt realize what upset me about the whole thing until I read this lol.
Except for that last part. I still want to believe that he cares for wormholes just don't know if he will have the time if he TRULY took the diplo job. |
Bob the Scientist
Procure Enrich Weaponize
0
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Posted - 2015.03.22 00:41:27 -
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what an epic tool
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Orange Aideron
Blue-Fire Great Blue Balls of Fire
56
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Posted - 2015.03.22 00:50:00 -
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lost my vote. |
Tyrant Scorn
191
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Posted - 2015.03.22 01:26:19 -
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Corbexx, you are dead to me !
First you run on a Wormhole campaign, the entire wormhole community voted for you, trusting you that you had their interests at heart... and then you pull this **** ?
I think the Goons are not well liked amoung wormholers, we trust a man who is honest and fair... what you just pulled goes against everything we voted for.
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Tear Jar
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
331
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Posted - 2015.03.22 02:48:13 -
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Buhhdust Princess wrote:Sadly i gotta say this was a **** move. Really should have thought of the repurcussions from doing this, ok so you may not have meant to alarm anyone and insult the wh voters.. but you have! After coming to suddenly and saying you are looking out for lowsec too, it strikes me as if you are just vote hunting, quite underhanded imo.
There is a lot of anger in this thread. Aren't you guys supposed to give gf after you are beaten?
Why hasn't anyone given goons a gf? |
Rengas
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
420
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Posted - 2015.03.22 03:17:08 -
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Tyrant Scorn wrote:Corbexx, you are dead to me !
First you run on a Wormhole campaign, the entire wormhole community voted for you, trusting you that you had their interests at heart... and then you pull this **** ?
I think the Goons are not well liked amoung wormholers, we trust a man who is honest and fair... what you just pulled goes against everything we voted for. I'm sure he's devastated. |
calaretu
Honestly We didnt know Unsettled.
267
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Posted - 2015.03.22 08:02:12 -
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Tear Jar wrote:Buhhdust Princess wrote:Sadly i gotta say this was a **** move. Really should have thought of the repurcussions from doing this, ok so you may not have meant to alarm anyone and insult the wh voters.. but you have! After coming to suddenly and saying you are looking out for lowsec too, it strikes me as if you are just vote hunting, quite underhanded imo. There is a lot of anger in this thread. Aren't you guys supposed to give gf after you are beaten? Why hasn't anyone given goons a gf?
If this was the only way goons managed to "get back" at wormholers, who have regularly been farming goon ratters, then no theres no point in giving goons a gf. Just a mediochre laugh in their direction and then continue as usual.
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Thea Yulivee
Space Pioneers Odin's Call
5
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:03:54 -
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Tear Jar wrote:
There is a lot of anger in this thread. Aren't you guys supposed to give gf after you are beaten?
Why hasn't anyone given goons a gf?
First of all - i have given them a "well played", so read what others posted first maybe?
and regarding the anger - again - read what others posted
to me it seems like most of the people aren't angry...they are disappointed and feel betrayed - many stated that it's fine to change corp and alliance as one wants, but not in this way, with this timing...not if you harvest votes, also based on your ticker
this lack of real anger and the plethora of disappointed posts is something that would worry me if i was corbexx - this is not reddit going "how could you, go diaf" and such exagerated bs |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
9097
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Posted - 2015.03.22 11:52:01 -
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calaretu wrote:Tear Jar wrote:Buhhdust Princess wrote:Sadly i gotta say this was a **** move. Really should have thought of the repurcussions from doing this, ok so you may not have meant to alarm anyone and insult the wh voters.. but you have! After coming to suddenly and saying you are looking out for lowsec too, it strikes me as if you are just vote hunting, quite underhanded imo. There is a lot of anger in this thread. Aren't you guys supposed to give gf after you are beaten? Why hasn't anyone given goons a gf? If this was the only way goons managed to "get back" at wormholers, who have regularly been farming goon ratters, then no theres no point in giving goons a gf. Just a mediochre laugh in their direction and then continue as usual.
As he said above! At the end of the day, this is just a game and not a single one of these people are actually important.. however if you are going to play important, at least use the people who voted for you as ur followers. Corbexx made a bad move and should expect this response. |
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