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Neminem
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Posted - 2003.11.02 09:59:00 -
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It seems to me that CFS need this peace deal more than CA.
CA are a war mongering alliance made up of hard core PvP'rs and ex-pirates. People who know and have over the last few weeks excelled at player v player confrontation.
CFS on the other hand are for the most part passive miner types, with a few ill places members (who should be in CA/SA/FA in stead) who declare their CFS allegence and vow to protect the miner types.
So we have "big bully" v "big miner". It's plain enough to see that "big bully" cares neither way as JK-FIX is slim of resources anyway. But "big miner" who does not have a navy capable of doing anything other than showing up with loads and loads of friends and playing the "we have more guys here" card, confrontationl avoidence tactic, needs to be a little more relaxed about the CA's devient nature and give a little here as they are the ones replacing ships daily.
Nem!
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Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.11.02 13:09:00 -
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It seems to me that CFS need this peace deal more than CA.
That's what we call the "bottom line".
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Now and again, this my saving grace
Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove
Keep me alive and give me something to lose
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Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2003.11.02 13:19:00 -
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Well the reason CFS has so many friends is the fact what space they did claim they shared with all and that makes people happy. If CA is convinced they have decimated the CFS fleet then end this now. Stop the blockading as for it is uncalled for if the CFS is truly beaten. Im not of any leadership on the CFS senate nor do i communicate with any that are, but i am in A2-V27 everyday dealing with the pirates. So please tell me how much longer will this go on?
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2003.11.02 14:11:00 -
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Edited by: Gaius Kador on 02/11/2003 14:14:23
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It seems to me that CFS need this peace deal more than CA.
That's what we call the "bottom line".
... and you don't take offence at the bully vs miner characterisation? Nor the rest of the comments regarding CA which I personally support wholeheartedly ;)
Edit: Through my dealings with the CFS I've come to respect their friendlyness and their policies for keeping part of 0.0 space pirate free. Carebears or not, they are/were a respectable bunch.
CA stomping all over this is less than respectable.
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Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2003.11.02 14:50:00 -
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Gaius, i respect your opinion, and you know, me i have never bullied anyone, i have killed for my alliance, as would you, if you where in one, come down from that high moral ground, fact is that many CFS members where held in the dark by their leadership, fighting a war, they could never win.
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
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Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2003.11.02 14:52:00 -
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I dont believe there is a "were" in the CFS they are alive. Beaten as they might be they are still people making their own ways.
I have much respect too and thats why i want to see the end of this meaningless war
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.11.02 15:16:00 -
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Wars costs too much. Why not wait untill those big nice mining platforms are implemented. They are destroyable and will give a whole new meaning to 'extortion'.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Magusa
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Posted - 2003.11.02 16:32:00 -
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I wonder why CA would even attack a bunch of miners when they had three other wars to fight? Must be nice beating up on people who dont or cant fight back.
I wouldnt say "dont" or even "didnt". I have to say CFS have more guts than some of our enemies could ever dream of having. Whenever we were evenly matched, they stood their ground and engaged in battle. You have gained my respect even if that means nothing.
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Mr Blonde
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Posted - 2003.11.02 16:52:00 -
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I wonder why CA would even attack a bunch of miners when they had three other wars to fight? Must be nice beating up on people who dont or cant fight back.
Pirating is easier than fighting real wars. Its that simple.
"lets declare war, cuz then its not pirating!!1!1111"
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Tommy Boy
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Posted - 2003.11.02 17:02:00 -
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Your respect does mean something to me at least. When your ships and corperations fail you all you will ever have is the respect you have from others. Take peoples respect as you will, but i take anyone's respect that are willing to give it. Talon's "bar" chat is a great idea and i wish to talk with my former foes. We are people so where would you be when lying naked, what will make you stand once more?
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Asimir Kurdugal
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Posted - 2003.11.03 04:24:00 -
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... and you don't take offence at the bully vs miner characterisation?
I've Heard it too many times.
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Moving again, comfort of the chase
Now and again, this my saving grace
Dead on the inside, I've got nothing to prove
Keep me alive and give me something to lose
I've been gone so long, but I will come back
I will come back for you |
Sedsiss
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Posted - 2003.11.03 05:40:00 -
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And perhaps its a bit true.
Oracle of old was a great institution, one of the very best player corporations. Now it's just another thug with some rp on the side.
What happened to your original ceo by the by, I can't remember her name off the top of my head. |
Kalki Nibiru
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Posted - 2003.11.03 05:58:00 -
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Nah, I dont say that Oracle is another thug corporation. They still hold true to their role playing and are honorable, after all they are trying to fight for their opinion on what is 'right' in this tubulent galaxy just as we fight for what we believe is 'right'.
I do question their work with Sinister, and I do question their actions. But all in all, they are still honorable. However I dont see them as freedom fighters anymore, rather terrorists (this is not because of the war against us, but your constant attacks against law abiding citizens. I too am very much against slavery but only through diplomacy can things be changed. The gallente federation has fought hard for you, and you do your people and us a disservice by attacking law abiding citizens).
With this new Emperor, maybe some things will change.
Taken from the May 29th 2003 Devchat at EveGate
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<Muaddid> Q: When will sentry gun and station and similar construction pods be introduced on the market?
<Hellmar> we have various player owned entities already implemented. Sentry guns, power/shield generators, field repair mini-stations, mobile refineries. We are still working out the last tidbits of how they can be over taken, what is the penalty of having a sentry gun kill a n00b etc. and we have been a bit busy with plugging the holes that people have found.I would say that you'd start to see these items on the market in about 2-3 weeks, very expensive to begin with |
Skuregyon
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Posted - 2003.11.03 09:39:00 -
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CA are a war mongering alliance made up of hard core PvP'rs and ex-pirates.
...sigh, why talk if you dont know members of CA?
Mayor part of CA is Production & Mining Corps, a only a LITTLE part EX-pirates...those EX-Pirate Corps, have signed a NAP, and interrupt ANY hostile action.
the TRUE Pirates in CA are the Stain Alliance, in fact, invaders of CA region.
REMEMBER AESCorporation, the First All Italian Corp. in EVE...fan since 2000 !
Skuregyon: Property of Shinra !
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Ramuis
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Posted - 2003.11.03 10:16:00 -
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Something people dont understand is that cfs had some of the CA corps on their KOS list, they wouldnĘt let these people roam their space. When you put someone on your KOS list who has allot of friends and these people dont like it, you should really think about what you are doing. If you cant kill the people on the KOS list and their friends you might consider changing policies.
CA has a lot of people on their KOS list but by the looks of it we have some great warriors who are capable of handling all the corps on the KOS list and their friends.
I really liked the CFS idea of keeping space clear of pirates and all was welcome to join the fun and I hope this can return. But if a dude weighing 200pounds asks a little guy weighing120pounds if he can park his car in the same parking lot, then what is the most reasonable respons....
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.11.03 10:38:00 -
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CFS really disappointed me, they seemed so ordened. But with big resistance they felt over quickly.
Maybe a good idea for CFS to make an elite group of fighters as a team? The communications in PvP didnt reached the fighters in time.
Shame, CFS has great potential.
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Probe
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Posted - 2003.11.03 11:28:00 -
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CA are a war mongering alliance made up of hard core PvP'rs and ex-pirates.
...sigh, why talk if you dont know members of CA?
Mayor part of CA is Production & Mining Corps, a only a LITTLE part EX-pirates...those EX-Pirate Corps, have signed a NAP, and interrupt ANY hostile action.
the TRUE Pirates in CA are the Stain Alliance, in fact, invaders of CA region.
CA is so peacefull that they are at war with almost everyone near their borders... really friendly bunch of "miners"
Soooo u say that when SA/fa goes to Curse to payback pirate actions by some corps is an Invasion... and whne CA forces go keel everyone in CFS space is not an Invasion also but a rather pacifist defence of yer space???
I'm sure soon even the Jovians will be "Invaders of CA" even though they don't move out of Jove space ;)
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Ph0enix
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Posted - 2003.11.03 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Ph0enix on 03/11/2003 11:58:27
Probe you obviously have no idea what your talking about, and in spouting that pathetic dribble you only confirm in the minds of many that you are a stupid, low life Amarr slaver.
the CA did not want war with the CFS, but the CFS did. they thought the CA was being beaten by the SA/FA/CC, and wanted in on the action in the hope they could claim some territory when we finally crumbled.
however they were wrong, and we fought back. we only launched attacks on CFS space because we wanted to eliminate them as an enemy, simply because 4 Allainces were too many to fight.
however, i would like to stress that it was not the will of all of the CFS to have this war, but only a few misguided fools at the top. i look forward to future peace with the CFS, and hope that in securing said peace the CA can prove itself to the cynical people of EVE that we ain't pirates.
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Skuregyon
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Posted - 2003.11.03 12:33:00 -
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Edited by: Skuregyon on 03/11/2003 12:38:09
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CA are a war mongering alliance made up of hard core PvP'rs and ex-pirates.
...sigh, why talk if you dont know members of CA?
Mayor part of CA is Production & Mining Corps, a only a LITTLE part EX-pirates...those EX-Pirate Corps, have signed a NAP, and interrupt ANY hostile action.
the TRUE Pirates in CA are the Stain Alliance, in fact, invaders of CA region.
CA is so peacefull that they are at war with almost everyone near their borders... really friendly bunch of "miners"
Soooo u say that when SA/fa goes to Curse to payback pirate actions by some corps is an Invasion... and whne CA forces go keel everyone in CFS space is not an Invasion also but a rather pacifist defence of yer space???
I'm sure soon even the Jovians will be "Invaders of CA" even though they don't move out of Jove space ;)
friend, this is only a nonsense blablabla
I hope peace, with CFS the goal its near to go, this is the facts, at the moment, SA rejected any invitation to talk for peace with a simply excuse "CA are pirates"...this excuse is really untrue...SA want only the territory of Curse, want the territory of XETIC, and transform all to a SA protectorate...i call this Imperialism...bad thing.
Any propaganda tell "CA are pirate" its similar to war USA-Iraq situation.....Iraq was the "bad nation", and USA the "good guys"....strange, USA invade Iraq, and say "we protect liberty"....same as SA, USA says "we kill terrorist", but kill kids, women, and honestly workers at the checking points....same as SA...learn to the real world, the war its not the best solution.
NAP from ex-pirate Corps its reality now, all cease the pirate activity, in and out Curse region.
The Past is the Past, we hope to all looking in a great future, in peace.
REMEMBER AESCorporation, the First All Italian Corp. in EVE...fan since 2000 !
Skuregyon: Property of Shinra !
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TIvian
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Posted - 2003.11.03 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: TIvian on 03/11/2003 13:16:07
Again with that.....pirate stuff. oh we bad terrorist's!! pickin on the harmless miners....taking over the entire galaxie of Eve!!!
Remember we did not declair war. CFS did.
PLEASE!!! ask Space Invaders if we are pirates....ask Che if he gets to run around our space. Ask the Biomass how we feel about them..or SAD or Zombie. Those are the real pirates. and they are the ones kicking ass all over the place.
If Stain and those of Omega Corp and Everlasting Vendetta would realize that those pirate corporations mentioned above are more of a threat then us to the well being of every person in eve, then maybe we all could rid this game of true enemy's.....while we fight each other they are getting stronger....time is waisting people. we should not be fighting each other. we should be going into OBE and P-3EN and KICKING AZZ!!!!
But you keep on pretending that we are pirates. you keep living that illusion and it will come back to haunt you some day.
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UnFriendly Fire
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Posted - 2003.11.03 14:26:00 -
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TIvian, you guys declared war a full 3 days before us. :P
Bit of a moot point now though.
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Harkan Ramientes
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Posted - 2003.11.03 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: Harkan Ramientes on 03/11/2003 14:58:53
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CA is so peacefull that they are at war with almost everyone near their borders... really friendly bunch of "miners"
Since it's foundation CA has been attacked by many, would be this an effect of old "Smash the Pirate Alliance" propaganda, or whatever, we didn't choose the wars we're fighting.
About the Great Wildlands affaire, we feel that Great Wildlands are a natural protectorate of Curse,but this doesn't means necessarily war
Oh! and BTW: we're at peace with CFS
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UnFriendly Fire
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Posted - 2003.11.04 03:59:00 -
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Edited by: UnFriendly Fire on 04/11/2003 04:00:35
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Edited by: Ph0enix on 03/11/2003 11:58:27
Probe you obviously have no idea what your talking about, and in spouting that pathetic dribble you only confirm in the minds of many that you are a stupid, low life Amarr slaver.
the CA did not want war with the CFS, but the CFS did. they thought the CA was being beaten by the SA/FA/CC, and wanted in on the action in the hope they could claim some territory when we finally crumbled.
however they were wrong, and we fought back. we only launched attacks on CFS space because we wanted to eliminate them as an enemy, simply because 4 Allainces were too many to fight.
however, i would like to stress that it was not the will of all of the CFS to have this war, but only a few misguided fools at the top. i look forward to future peace with the CFS, and hope that in securing said peace the CA can prove itself to the cynical people of EVE that we ain't pirates.
Sorry, I can't even dignify this load of utter tripe with a response.
But as I stated before, it is a moot point now.
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Redon
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Posted - 2003.11.04 06:06:00 -
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what can i say neminem, but other than, finally there is a person who sees what is realy going on and someone who doesnt lie about everything. i command you sir. good luck in the game.
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Tzu Mai
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Posted - 2003.11.04 08:37:00 -
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I am replying to this in an alt as to not upset my corp. I have fought both CFS and CA. I have Fought along side both as well. This war is stupid, and that is that, some members of CA (Rising Sin) are scum ditto with CFS (too many to name). Every side has a good side and a bad I say screw the war and go after Bio Mass. |
Neminem
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Posted - 2003.11.04 08:46:00 -
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I wonder why CA would even attack a bunch of miners when they had three other wars to fight? Must be nice beating up on people who dont or cant fight back.
If I recall, this war was started because some CA'rs were NPC hunting in FIX and some CFS chick (Janeway I think) nicked there loot cans after a few warings. So they iced her (no ship kill just warning shots I hear) and she wailled all the way home.
Next day some more CA'rs were blokaded and attacked by some CFS chaps, and boom.... WAR.
CA being the bully was not likely to sit around whil some of their own were being pummeled so...
draw your own conclusions, but that was the turning point...
Nem! |
Neminem
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Posted - 2003.11.04 08:49:00 -
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<quote>...sigh, why talk if you dont know members of CA?</quote>
Being a (alt) member of CA I do know CA, it;s pointless trying to rationalise what we are or aren't. It's even more pointless trying to redefine CFS's view of what we are.
Bully v Sissy.
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