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Tap This
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.03 14:56:00 -
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Doesn't work for me anymore... Can't make a station the target of autopilot, only the system.
Am I doing it wrong or has CCP scrapped it like 2 days after it was introduced?!?!
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CCP Zulu
C C P
C C P Alliance
120
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Posted - 2011.12.03 15:00:00 -
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You're doing it wrong. |
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Tap This
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.12.03 15:02:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:You're doing it wrong.
So why did it work yesterday? I have a station bookmarked and and click "Set Destination", should work, right? Yet doesn't...
EDIT: Works from market browser for example... That's extremely stupid though... WTH do I have stations bookmarked for, if I have to manually search them to be able to autopilot to them?
Sounds to me like you guys are doing stuff wrong, not me... |
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CCP Zulu
C C P
C C P Alliance
120
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Posted - 2011.12.03 15:04:00 -
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Not sure it works on bookmarks. Try searching for the station in your "people and places" window or asset window and setting destination from there. |
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Tap This
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.12.03 15:12:00 -
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So really it's more like the implementation is half-arsed then me doing it wrong?  Fair enough... |
Florestan Bronstein
The Waterworks
196
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Posted - 2011.12.03 15:38:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:You're holding it wrong.
FYP |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
261
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Posted - 2011.12.03 16:10:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:You're doing it wrong.
As someone who does dev work and has to support products, that kind of reply is something I only occasionally get to use and get away with. I lol'ed. |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
451
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Posted - 2011.12.03 16:13:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:Not sure it works on bookmarks. Try searching for the station in your "people and places" window or asset window and setting destination from there.
more to the point, why wouldn't it work on bookmar... er "Locations" ? (lets use the proper derpy syntax here)
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
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CCP Zulu
C C P
C C P Alliance
120
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Posted - 2011.12.03 16:16:00 -
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Tap This wrote:So really it's more like the implementation is half-arsed then me doing it wrong? Fair enough...
I think that's a fair point :) |
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Crystal Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
34
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Posted - 2011.12.03 16:25:00 -
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Tap This wrote:So really it's more like the implementation is half-arsed then me doing it wrong? Fair enough...
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
397
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Posted - 2011.12.03 17:29:00 -
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Hehehe i love to read Zulu trying his hand at trolling. Gives me hope.
Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |
El Boracho
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.03 17:34:00 -
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Yes for some reason it doesn't work for the bookmarks or locations.
It does work though Assets and Market.
It would be nice to nip this particular paper cut early rather then let it linger for a few years.
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Sadayiel
Inner Conflict
13
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Posted - 2011.12.03 17:37:00 -
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Tap This wrote:CCP Zulu wrote:You're doing it wrong. So why did it work yesterday? I have a station bookmarked and and click "Set Destination", should work, right? Yet doesn't... EDIT: Works from market browser for example... That's extremely stupid though... WTH do I have stations bookmarked for, if I have to manually search them to be able to autopilot to them? Sounds to me like you guys are doing stuff wrong, not me...
I Think Zulu it's right here, been using Autopilot and works perfect so far, but a bookmark it's not a station per se but a *localization* in space, so maybe the issue comes from there.
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Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
349
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Posted - 2011.12.03 17:40:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:You're doing it wrong.
Oh talk dirty to me more you naughty, naughty boy 
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
WIdot Director of Quality Control and Ironically Signing My Title to Posts To Make People ~mad~ |
Trotula
9
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Posted - 2011.12.03 17:50:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:Tap This wrote:So really it's more like the implementation is half-arsed then me doing it wrong? Fair enough... I think that's a fair point :)
Even the undevelopers admit the quality of CCP's work. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
303
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Posted - 2011.12.03 18:00:00 -
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I came expecting a proper dev response on what could be wrong.
Saw CCP Zulu trolling.
Left super happy. |
Liam Mirren
32
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Posted - 2011.12.03 18:04:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:Tap This wrote:So really it's more like the implementation is half-arsed then me doing it wrong? Fair enough... I think that's a fair point :)
Hahaha.
Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude. |
Luckytania
Bullets of Justice
Damned Nation
31
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Posted - 2011.12.03 18:20:00 -
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Trotula wrote:CCP Zulu wrote:Tap This wrote:So really it's more like the implementation is half-arsed then me doing it wrong? Fair enough... I think that's a fair point :) Even the undevelopers admit the quality of CCP's work.
It is really difficult to be perfect. :)
If this issue is fixed fairly quickly now that it has been pointed out then that will be more evidence that CCP has started 'doing it right'.
If, however, this inconsistency / annoyance is left to fester for months/years, *that* would be ... sub-optimal. |
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CCP Zulu
C C P
C C P Alliance
120
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Posted - 2011.12.03 18:21:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:Tap This wrote:So really it's more like the implementation is half-arsed then me doing it wrong? Fair enough... I think that's a fair point :)
To clarify, I think it's unfair to say it's "half-arsed" but adding the same functionality to locations is something we should add to the backlog. Seeing as how the feature is well received it's prudent to expand on it, don't you think? :) |
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Luckytania
Bullets of Justice
Damned Nation
31
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Posted - 2011.12.03 18:22:00 -
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Tap This wrote:So really it's more like the implementation is half-arsed then me doing it wrong? Fair enough...
You found this / brought this to public attention, so you should get the glory. :)
How about making a bug report on it to get the issue officially in their system as needing a fix? |
Tap This
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.12.03 18:29:00 -
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The thing is: The bookmark glows yellow if you chose the station via other means anyway, so it's already connected in some way...
@ Zulu: Rather than "half-arsed" would you prefer me calling it "business as usual"? ;-D - Now I'm trolling... ^^ |
Luckytania
Bullets of Justice
Damned Nation
31
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Posted - 2011.12.03 18:31:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:CCP Zulu wrote:Tap This wrote:So really it's more like the implementation is half-arsed then me doing it wrong? Fair enough... I think that's a fair point :) To clarify, I think it's unfair to say it's "half-arsed" but adding the same functionality to locations is something we should add to the backlog. Seeing as how the feature is well received it's prudent to expand on it, don't you think? :)
I'm going to quibble with you a bit on this one, Zulu.
I don't think it at all unfair to call it "half-arsed".
Regardless of where in the UI the command "Set Destination" is invoked it must cause the same behavior.
Allowing commands which have different results depending on where in the UI they are invoked is the path to chaos.
Your response here reflects a code-based perspective rather than a User Experience / use-case view. The later must have a higher priority for quality software development results. |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
Not Usually Killing Everyone.
204
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Posted - 2011.12.03 19:11:00 -
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What if you expanded it to AP to locations in general? not just station locations, like what if it could warp you to a SS? :P
The Drake is a Lie |
Psychophantic
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Posted - 2011.12.03 19:31:00 -
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So once again an issue is raised, CCP trolls, is non-committal about fixing it, goes away hoping people will forget about it. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
303
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Posted - 2011.12.03 19:56:00 -
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Psychophantic wrote:So once again an issue is raised, CCP trolls, is non-committal about fixing it, goes away hoping people will forget about it.
There was no issue. The guy didnt set up his ap to the station properly. rather than doing it from assets or the market he did it via book marks, which will get you to the system location not the station itself. So everything is working as intended.
And yes autopiloting to bookmarks has not been implemented. |
Mioelnir
Cataclysm Enterprises
Ev0ke
29
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Posted - 2011.12.03 20:00:00 -
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CCP Zulu wrote:CCP Zulu wrote:Tap This wrote:So really it's more like the implementation is half-arsed then me doing it wrong? Fair enough... I think that's a fair point :) To clarify, I think it's unfair to say it's "half-arsed" but adding the same functionality to locations is something we should add to the backlog. Seeing as how the feature is well received it's prudent to expand on it, don't you think? :)
Might also be a good time to clean up the autopilot management code so that future changes to legal autopilot targets etc hit all possible paths instead of just the 85% the developer was aware of 
This reeks like a bad case of copy/paste code duplication. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
492
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Posted - 2011.12.03 20:02:00 -
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So if you go back and refoundation book marks are you going to make it possible so that when you start making planets start orbiting they'd travel with the grid?
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Mioelnir
Cataclysm Enterprises
Ev0ke
29
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Posted - 2011.12.03 20:04:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:Psychophantic wrote:So once again an issue is raised, CCP trolls, is non-committal about fixing it, goes away hoping people will forget about it. which will get you to the system location not the station itself.
Bookmarks differentiate between type solar system and type station.
If you bookmark a station, it gets a bookmark of type station.
That's the reason you can dock via bookmarks. |
Tap This
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.12.03 21:11:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:Psychophantic wrote:So once again an issue is raised, CCP trolls, is non-committal about fixing it, goes away hoping people will forget about it. There was no issue. The guy didnt set up his ap to the station properly. rather than doing it from assets or the market he did it via book marks, which will get you to the system location not the station itself. So everything is working as intended. And yes autopiloting to bookmarks has not been implemented.
That's total bullshit... So why can you dock to a station via bookmarks? It's a clear oversight, not me being an idiot... You, on the other hand... |
Danica Duan
Kronos TEchnologies
2
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Posted - 2011.12.03 23:33:00 -
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Also need a Set Waypoint / Set Destination choice in the right-click menu of the Star Map when showing station info for a system.
The first cheek was great, we'd like the full moon now, please. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex
Cosmic Consortium
320
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Posted - 2011.12.03 23:58:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:There was no issue. The guy didnt set up his ap to the station properly. rather than doing it from assets or the market he did it via book marks, which will get you to the system location not the station itself. So everything is working as intended.
And yes autopiloting to bookmarks has not been implemented.
Autopiloting to mission bookmarks has been implemented: open a mission, add waypoints for the target system and the agent's home station based on links in the mission dialogue, and you'll end up auto piloting back to station.
While "half arsed" may be a little severe, it is fair to say that the feature was not implemented in a manner consistent with the existing handling of bookmarks in the UI elsewhere in the game. I can see the obvious reason for not allowing autopilot waypoints to be set based on arbitrary bookmarks (i.e.: to avoid insta-bookmark spam around stargazes), no doubt the special treatment of station bookmarks is something that was merely overlooked during the sprints to bring us this new feature (which is, incidentally, awesome).
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Zleon Leigh
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Posted - 2011.12.04 23:24:00 -
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Did experiment - set to destination on old BM's gives a routing of system only (destination box is not outlined in white). However a new BM linked to a station does give a dock at destination (destination box is outlined in white - look closely). Soooo... old BM's appear to not be compatible - or the implementation was not implemented properly and QA failed (as usual).
Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
229
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Posted - 2011.12.04 23:39:00 -
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I want to criclejerk err i mean autopilot through various
bookmarks within the same system,
just so i can do merry-go-round all day long.
Thanks.
Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed
RED.Legion
73
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Posted - 2011.12.05 00:16:00 -
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Found this one out after waking up to my freighter sitting on the Perimeter gate, where it had been for ~6hours. Docked, figured out the workaround in ~5min, and continued sleeping my way to fortune in Eve.
New features always have new quirks, learn them, live them, love them. RL truck drivers sometimes get in trouble when they go to sleep while driving freight around  |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
448
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Posted - 2011.12.05 00:37:00 -
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Zleon Leigh wrote:Did experiment - set to destination on old BM's gives a routing of system only (destination box is not outlined in white). However a new BM linked to a station does give a dock at destination (destination box is outlined in white - look closely). Soooo... old BM's appear to not be compatible - or the implementation was not implemented properly and QA failed (as usual).
I had already bug reported this on the test server.
Since there was a part of the search drop down in People and Places to search for and bookmark stations, it seemed common sense that it should work for a bookmark you create from that interface.
In other words, if you search for a particular station in people and places, right click on the correct station and select "set destination" it will dock you there.
But if you instead simply create a permanent bookmark to add to your collection and later try to have it go there and dock, it does not work.
Now this was on Sisi, so perhaps things have changed.
Anyway, as I said, I bug reported it as it seemed obvious that it "should" work with any bookmark to a station.
To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Zleon Leigh
35
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Posted - 2011.12.05 06:22:00 -
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Customer QA found the problem, CCP once again failed to heed. SNAFU
Incarna - Newest business example of mismanaged capital.
CCP - Continuing to gank independent PI producers every day |
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Without Fear
Flying Burning Ships Alliance
177
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Posted - 2011.12.05 06:42:00 -
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I'm still waiting for Autopilot that warps to a POS bookmark.
Of course the best autopilot would be if it could use jump bridges. Would be great if the autopilot could use titan and blackop bridges. I don't see why this should be a problem. Just a few lines added to the code, amirite?
Later on people will be wondering why EVE can't just do everything for them. We could just sit back and watch the EVE client do everything for us and we'll watch it like a movie. |
Tap This
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.12.07 16:58:00 -
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Wow, CCP fixed it! That was pretty quick!
Thanks CCP! |
Dragon Outlaw
Rogue Fleet
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Posted - 2011.12.07 17:14:00 -
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In case the auto-pilot does not work again, should I land in the station full flaps down or should I just go in with a fast speed landing? And where is the landing gear lever on a Domi again? |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
Dark Empire Alliance
29
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Posted - 2011.12.07 17:21:00 -
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all this because people are too lazy to right click and dock lmao |
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