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Ottom Ephesianos Mirkur Draug'Tyr 38	Posted - 2015.03.24 18:03:42 - [1] - Quote Recently while boarding and freeing slaves on a slaver's ship my crew and I returned to our own Ghost Wolf to find some marks or freckles on our hands and cheeks. We all took tomato baths to make sure and spent some time in the radiology lab to find out what had happened. Our doctors told us that the degenerative sub-particles had been emanated by a dysfunctional or compromised warp core. The entire ship was saturated with rogue radiation because the slaves aboard were in the process of self immolation due to low work and "enlightenment" conditions. I told them there is no "enlightenment" aboard an Armegeddon but that takes more time than I have while in route to the reconditioning/matriculation programs in Minmatar space. It seems my hypotheses of the Amarr eating themselves from the inside is happening at a slow rate. Unfortunately right now it is still curable and inconsequential for a clone pilot. Note: Clones are more sensitive to the lack of warp core containment.
Samira Kernher Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1407	Posted - 2015.03.24 18:31:48 - [2] - Quote If you say so. "Embrace those who would learn, defeat those who would make mockery of God's way. Through the penance of deeds, the sins of forefathers may eventually be washed away." -- His Royal Highness the Heir Yonis Ardishapur
Claudia Osyn Limited Existance 1107	Posted - 2015.03.24 18:50:47 - [3] - Quote Pats Otto on the head and smiles Keep up the good work, cupcake. You'll get there some day. Unfortunately, until then, we have no idea who you are or what you're saying. The lack of money is the root of all evil.
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 4563	Posted - 2015.03.24 23:24:14 - [4] - Quote Since Caldari reactors are based on graviton theory, I'd be really interested in what would happen with an improperly shielded core... Actually, on second thoughts, let's keep that completely theoretical. I've no wish to have strange-bosons wandering all over the place in warp. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 366	Posted - 2015.03.25 01:56:12 - [5] - Quote Warp cores, far as I understand it, do not actually emit radiation. They absorb energy, not give out energy. How exactly they do so is a mystery to me. Far as I am concerned, it's quantum thingamajig and might as well be magic. I believe that radiation comes not from the warp cores but from faulty reactor shielding. Amarr vessels use antimatter reactors, which are known for high emission of gamma rays. Improper shielding has been known to cause serious case of cancer. Even with sufficient radiation shielding, we do not allow our power engineers to work in the antimatter/nuclear reactor chamber for more than three months at a time. Workplace regulations, you understand. Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Maria Daphiti PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 28	Posted - 2015.03.25 01:59:54 - [6] - Quote At least he seems to be with the Minmitar now. Maybe he can spread his unique kind of flakiness!
Graelyn Tzedakah Aegis Militia 695	Posted - 2015.03.25 02:26:39 - [7] - Quote Someday, hopefully, this pilot will eventually notice that not only are the people he accuses of...everything ever.. mocking his claims with mild amusement, but even the loudest Tribal and emancipationist voices backed slowly away from his particular brand of kook a few threads ago.... But it is not this day. Cardinal Graelyn Owner/Operator, "The Summit" AM Conclave, Speaker Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113 "Am I losing touch? No. It is the children who are wrong."
Lord Kailethre Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 46	Posted - 2015.03.25 02:40:17 - [8] - Quote Ottom Ephesianos Threads: Intolerable and Wrong Ramblings
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 366	Posted - 2015.03.25 03:10:40 - [9] - Quote Lord Kailethre wrote: Ottom Ephesianos Threads: Intolerable and Wrong Ramblings He had to put that PhD in Filibustering to use somehow, right? Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Lord Kailethre Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 46	Posted - 2015.03.25 04:12:42 - [10] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Lord Kailethre wrote: Ottom Ephesianos Threads: Intolerable and Wrong Ramblings He had to put that PhD in Filibustering to use somehow, right? Heh. Usually they go in to politics.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 366	Posted - 2015.03.25 04:43:09 - [11] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Since Caldari reactors are based on graviton theory, I'd be really interested in what would happen with an improperly shielded core... Actually, on second thoughts, let's keep that completely theoretical. I've no wish to have strange-bosons wandering all over the place in warp. Oh, I forgot to mention that there are bosons circulating under your feet every time you walk around in a spaceship or a space station. How else would you stay rooted to the flooring panels rather than on the ceiling or walls? Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Leopold Caine Stillwater Corporation 499	Posted - 2015.03.25 08:11:00 - [12] - Quote And I thought Nauplius' slave related PSAs were bad... Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc
Ottom Ephesianos Mirkur Draug'Tyr 38	Posted - 2015.03.25 10:43:29 - [13] - Quote Graelyn wrote: Someday, hopefully, this pilot will eventually notice that not only are the people he accuses of...everything ever.. mocking his claims with mild amusement, but even the loudest Tribal and emancipationist voices backed slowly away from his particular brand of kook a few threads ago.... But it is not this day. Did not. You backed away from reason because it was soaked in beer.
Xindi Kraid Caldari Provisions Caldari State 903	Posted - 2015.03.25 14:29:06 - [14] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Since Caldari reactors are based on graviton theory, I'd be really interested in what would happen with an improperly shielded core... Actually, on second thoughts, let's keep that completely theoretical. I've no wish to have strange-bosons wandering all over the place in warp. If too many gravitons are coming off the core, it could disrupt the warp core and interdict the ship.
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 4563	Posted - 2015.03.25 14:31:14 - [15] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Since Caldari reactors are based on graviton theory, I'd be really interested in what would happen with an improperly shielded core... Actually, on second thoughts, let's keep that completely theoretical. I've no wish to have strange-bosons wandering all over the place in warp. Oh, I forgot to mention that there are bosons circulating under your feet every time you walk around in a spaceship or a space station. How else would you stay rooted to the flooring panels rather than on the ceiling or walls? The difference is between circulating and wandering. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."
Graelyn Tzedakah Aegis Militia 696	Posted - 2015.03.25 14:37:28 - [16] - Quote Ottom Ephesianos wrote: Did not. You backed away from reason because it was soaked in beer. Have you ever even MET an Amarrian?? Cardinal Graelyn Owner/Operator, "The Summit" AM Conclave, Speaker Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113 "Am I losing touch? No. It is the children who are wrong."
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 367	Posted - 2015.03.25 14:58:28 - [17] - Quote Graelyn wrote: Ottom Ephesianos wrote: Did not. You backed away from reason because it was soaked in beer. Have you ever even MET an Amarrian?? I thought he is Amarrian. Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Corraidhin Farsaidh Farsaidh's Freeborn 1025	Posted - 2015.03.25 15:03:51 - [18] - Quote If you don't like Intolerable Warp Core resonations stop using Intolerable Warp Cores in your ships...buy some hand crafted quality Gallente ones instead.
Karmilla Strife Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 292	Posted - 2015.03.25 16:39:06 - [19] - Quote Mister Ephesianos, perhaps you shouldn't board vessels that have been disabled with any of the bewildering array of capsuleer weapons that leave radioactive byproducts in their wake? I wouldn't want you to go all crazy on us.
Deitra Vess Scope Works Overload Everything 289	Posted - 2015.03.25 17:23:34 - [20] - Quote The crew of neither my navy issue augoror or Armageddon ever reported anything like this. sure it wasn't just bad maintenance?
Ottom Ephesianos Mirkur Draug'Tyr 38	Posted - 2015.03.25 19:35:45 - [21] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Graelyn wrote: Ottom Ephesianos wrote: Did not. You backed away from reason because it was soaked in beer. Have you ever even MET an Amarrian?? I thought he is Amarrian. I am by blood Ancient Amarrian. I don't have to meet an Amarr. I just look in the mirror. I use Artillary and autocannons to disable ships before I board them. The cleanest weapons on the market unless I want to cut through their shielding with a knife. If an Armegeddon doesn't have enough warp core shielding to defend against slugs then it is a degraded core from whence last I flew inside Amarr bricks and elevated to Minmatar designs. As a great pilot once said. "Faster movings better!"
Veikitamo Gesakaarin Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 1682	Posted - 2015.03.26 02:40:06 - [22] - Quote In my experience it's a Matari expertise in ensuring proper warp core stabilization procedures at all times, not the Amarr.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 368	Posted - 2015.03.26 02:46:17 - [23] - Quote Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote: In my experience it's a Matari expertise in ensuring proper warp core stabilization procedures at all times, not the Amarr. I have never heard of a True Amarr being the grease monkey in their own warship. Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Graelyn Tzedakah Aegis Militia 697	Posted - 2015.03.26 03:40:59 - [24] - Quote Quote: I am by blood Ancient Amarrian. I don't have to meet an Amarr. I just look in the mirror. I highly doubt it. You just insinuated that we aren't the biggest beer drinkers (and brewers) in the cluster. That we're afraid of the stuff. Your predilection to call yourself 'ancient amarrian', something you just made up, seals the deal. You're some orphan raised somewhere else. I refuse to believe you've ever set foot on an Imperial world. Hells, if you had, the moment you'd opened your mouth you'd have been sterilized to protect the genepool... Cardinal Graelyn Owner/Operator, "The Summit" AM Conclave, Speaker Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113 "Am I losing touch? No. It is the children who are wrong."
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 368	Posted - 2015.03.26 03:46:40 - [25] - Quote The Amarr Empire is one of the biggest exporters, if not the biggest exporter, of liquor. You can find their wine and their beer everywhere in the cluster, matched by, if not outright surpassing, the Gallente brews. Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Graelyn Tzedakah Aegis Militia 697	Posted - 2015.03.26 03:56:30 - [26] - Quote MmHm. However, I will gladly accede to the incredible quality of some Gallente vinyards. It pains me for a moment when I find one superior to our best. Then I pop the cork and that pain is forgotten. But Beer? The Harvest Ascended? The First Gift of Heaven? The Monks of the brewing Orders stand alone. Cardinal Graelyn Owner/Operator, "The Summit" AM Conclave, Speaker Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113 "Am I losing touch? No. It is the children who are wrong."
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 368	Posted - 2015.03.26 04:17:56 - [27] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Since Caldari reactors are based on graviton theory, I'd be really interested in what would happen with an improperly shielded core... Actually, on second thoughts, let's keep that completely theoretical. I've no wish to have strange-bosons wandering all over the place in warp. Oh, I forgot to mention that there are bosons circulating under your feet every time you walk around in a spaceship or a space station. How else would you stay rooted to the flooring panels rather than on the ceiling or walls? The difference is between circulating and wandering. Eh, wandering bosons in warp shouldn't be any worse than being thrown around in a rocking sense-deprivation chamber. Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Ottom Ephesianos Mirkur Draug'Tyr 38	Posted - 2015.03.26 05:39:39 - [28] - Quote Graelyn wrote: MmHm. However, I will gladly accede to the incredible quality of some Gallente vinyards. It pains me for a moment when I find one superior to our best. Then I pop the cork and that pain is forgotten. But Beer? The Harvest Ascended? The First Gift of Heaven? The Monks of the brewing Orders stand alone. Obviously your zealousness of Amarr craftsmanship has dulled your taste buds to the truly delicious and intoxicating port rums that come out of Minmatar space.
Graelyn Tzedakah Aegis Militia 697	Posted - 2015.03.26 05:40:32 - [29] - Quote Pfft. Cardinal Graelyn Owner/Operator, "The Summit" AM Conclave, Speaker Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113 "Am I losing touch? No. It is the children who are wrong."
Aldrith Shutaq PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 746	Posted - 2015.03.26 06:03:29 - [30] - Quote How is this thread getting two page's worth of responses? How are any of them getting any responses. Stop it already. The less you pay attention to crazy people the faster they will go away.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 368	Posted - 2015.03.26 06:34:28 - [31] - Quote Ottom Ephesianos wrote: Graelyn wrote: MmHm. However, I will gladly accede to the incredible quality of some Gallente vinyards. It pains me for a moment when I find one superior to our best. Then I pop the cork and that pain is forgotten. But Beer? The Harvest Ascended? The First Gift of Heaven? The Monks of the brewing Orders stand alone. Obviously your zealousness of Amarr craftsmanship has dulled your taste buds to the truly delicious and intoxicating port rums that come out of Minmatar space. Minmatar...port? You serious mate? Our beer isn't that good and our best brew is quite close to being cleaning alcohol with hops and wheat flavour in it. If you talk Minmatar drinks you talk coffee. Our coffee is the stuff of the divines! Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Ottom Ephesianos Mirkur Draug'Tyr 38	Posted - 2015.03.26 19:33:31 - [32] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Ottom Ephesianos wrote: Graelyn wrote: MmHm. However, I will gladly accede to the incredible quality of some Gallente vinyards. It pains me for a moment when I find one superior to our best. Then I pop the cork and that pain is forgotten. But Beer? The Harvest Ascended? The First Gift of Heaven? The Monks of the brewing Orders stand alone. Obviously your zealousness of Amarr craftsmanship has dulled your taste buds to the truly delicious and intoxicating port rums that come out of Minmatar space. Minmatar...port? You serious mate? Our beer isn't that good and our best brew is quite close to being cleaning alcohol with hops and wheat flavour in it. If you talk Minmatar drinks you talk coffee. Our coffee is the stuff of the divines! I will take you out drinking with myself and my crew and you will see how tasteful a bottle of Minmatar port is with a full meal of Slaver Hound tale and potatoes. I truly jest about the tale. On coffee, yes that is exceptional now that you mention it.
Ottom Ephesianos Mirkur Draug'Tyr 38	Posted - 2015.03.26 19:36:07 - [33] - Quote Aldrith Shutaq wrote: How is this thread getting two page's worth of responses? How are any of them getting any responses. Stop it already. The less you pay attention to crazy people the faster they will go away. On that note, this thread is now about delicious beer. I like the dark ones and the fruity ones that get you drunk in two sips. Discuss. You would call me crazy but you emulate God unsuccessfully by enslaving others. Talk about totally insane.
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 4574	Posted - 2015.03.26 21:28:52 - [34] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Since Caldari reactors are based on graviton theory, I'd be really interested in what would happen with an improperly shielded core... Actually, on second thoughts, let's keep that completely theoretical. I've no wish to have strange-bosons wandering all over the place in warp. Oh, I forgot to mention that there are bosons circulating under your feet every time you walk around in a spaceship or a space station. How else would you stay rooted to the flooring panels rather than on the ceiling or walls? The difference is between circulating and wandering. Eh, wandering bosons in warp shouldn't be any worse than being thrown around in a rocking sense-deprivation chamber. Microgravities can do horrendous damage to equipment and people - but you really need a field to go awry, not a little stray gravitic radiation. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 369	Posted - 2015.03.27 01:24:41 - [35] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Since Caldari reactors are based on graviton theory, I'd be really interested in what would happen with an improperly shielded core... Actually, on second thoughts, let's keep that completely theoretical. I've no wish to have strange-bosons wandering all over the place in warp. Oh, I forgot to mention that there are bosons circulating under your feet every time you walk around in a spaceship or a space station. How else would you stay rooted to the flooring panels rather than on the ceiling or walls? The difference is between circulating and wandering. Eh, wandering bosons in warp shouldn't be any worse than being thrown around in a rocking sense-deprivation chamber. Microgravities can do horrendous damage to equipment and people - but you really need a field to go awry, not a little stray gravitic radiation. Well, thank the automation engineers for coming up with that system that shuts down all attempts to activate a warp drive whenever a leak in the collider tubes are detected. Can't allow the generation of any sort of vacuum environment whenever there's a boson leak. Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Ottom Ephesianos Mirkur Draug'Tyr 38	Posted - 2015.03.27 02:32:50 - [36] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Microgravities can do horrendous damage to equipment and people - but you really need a field to go awry, not a little stray gravitic radiation. Well, thank the automation engineers for coming up with that system that shuts down all attempts to activate a warp drive whenever a leak in the collider tubes are detected. Can't allow the generation of any sort of vacuum environment whenever there's a boson leak. Ottom Ephesianos wrote: I will take you out drinking with myself and my crew and you will see how tasteful a bottle of Minmatar port is with a full meal of Slaver Hound tale and potatoes. I truly jest about the tale. On coffee, yes that is exceptional now that you mention it. I spend most of my off hours drinking with my crew and support staff whenever I'm not tinkering with anything. I am Matari. Almost all of my crew and support staff are Matari. Our dining habits are very distinctively Matari, with song and dance and the occasional boasting. I know exactly what our port tastes like. It's not that good. 40 percent ethanol, prime ingredients being oats or wheat with some hops added. Also yeast. Sometimes something else entirely, as long as it ferments. Some of our liquor could even have alcohol content as high as 70 percent, depending on how it's made. We drink the stuff to knock ourselves out. We also use the stuff to clean wounds and to clean our equipment. The ones with the highest alcohol content is also sometimes used to clean engine parts, if no other detergent is available. You will be surprised how well those dissolve stains. And tales of Slaver Hounds? None of us Matari like talking about Slaver Hounds other than as cautionary tales. Remember that throughout our pre-rebellion history we had been blighted by the damned things. Used to be that escaped slaves had Slaver Hounds pouncing on them from way high up (branches and everything. They are very agile climbers. Great vertical maneuverability) and got their throats ripped out. Some of the more brutal slave-owners will even make arenas where the slaves were pitted against Slaver Hounds (spoiler alert: the Slaver Hounds always win). How about that part where the slaves were released into great plains en-masse once a month so that they will be hunted down by Slaver Hounds for sport? No, none of us like Slaver Hounds much. We do not enjoy talking about Slaver Hounds except as fables or to share information about the roving trajectory of wild Slaver Hound packs. I have been planet side to some of the less war torn Minmatar Tribes where slavery is more a thing of the past while the war still rages on in space. In these small hamlets of civilian culture you will find things like, rehabilitated slaver hounds instead of rehabilitated slaves. You will also find the fastest warp core developers in the field. These are the places where I find these ports and these are the places where ethanol is used to degrease an engine while the port is exquisite.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 369	Posted - 2015.03.27 03:27:00 - [37] - Quote Ottom Ephesianos wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Microgravities can do horrendous damage to equipment and people - but you really need a field to go awry, not a little stray gravitic radiation. Well, thank the automation engineers for coming up with that system that shuts down all attempts to activate a warp drive whenever a leak in the collider tubes are detected. Can't allow the generation of any sort of vacuum environment whenever there's a boson leak. Ottom Ephesianos wrote: I will take you out drinking with myself and my crew and you will see how tasteful a bottle of Minmatar port is with a full meal of Slaver Hound tale and potatoes. I truly jest about the tale. On coffee, yes that is exceptional now that you mention it. I spend most of my off hours drinking with my crew and support staff whenever I'm not tinkering with anything. I am Matari. Almost all of my crew and support staff are Matari. Our dining habits are very distinctively Matari, with song and dance and the occasional boasting. I know exactly what our port tastes like. It's not that good. 40 percent ethanol, prime ingredients being oats or wheat with some hops added. Also yeast. Sometimes something else entirely, as long as it ferments. Some of our liquor could even have alcohol content as high as 70 percent, depending on how it's made. We drink the stuff to knock ourselves out. We also use the stuff to clean wounds and to clean our equipment. The ones with the highest alcohol content is also sometimes used to clean engine parts, if no other detergent is available. You will be surprised how well those dissolve stains. And tales of Slaver Hounds? None of us Matari like talking about Slaver Hounds other than as cautionary tales. Remember that throughout our pre-rebellion history we had been blighted by the damned things. Used to be that escaped slaves had Slaver Hounds pouncing on them from way high up (branches and everything. They are very agile climbers. Great vertical maneuverability) and got their throats ripped out. Some of the more brutal slave-owners will even make arenas where the slaves were pitted against Slaver Hounds (spoiler alert: the Slaver Hounds always win). How about that part where the slaves were released into great plains en-masse once a month so that they will be hunted down by Slaver Hounds for sport? No, none of us like Slaver Hounds much. We do not enjoy talking about Slaver Hounds except as fables or to share information about the roving trajectory of wild Slaver Hound packs. I have been planet side to some of the less war torn Minmatar Tribes where slavery is more a thing of the past while the war still rages on in space. In these small hamlets of civilian culture you will find things like, rehabilitated slaver hounds instead of rehabilitated slaves. You will also find the fastest warp core developers in the field. These are the places where I find these ports and these are the places where ethanol is used to degrease an engine while the port is exquisite. Slavery IS a thing of the past everywhere there are actual Minmatar clans and tribes taking residence. The Amarr Empire are in the habit of replacing the culture of the enslaved races with their own. You can't rehabilitate Slaver Hounds. They are, by instinct, highly vicious predators. You have to tame then, the way the Amarr did, to get any use out of them beyond losing all your limbs. The Amarr have spent many generations trying to tame them and breed out the species's highly aggressive instincts, with some degree of success. For one they no longer go after just about anyone and can be ordered to de-aggress, sit and roll-over. Still, that predatory instinct hasn't been breed out entirely and many an Amarr hound-tamer still get mauled from time to time. Why they even keep Slaver Hounds around children is beyond me. Warp core drives are developed NOT in low sec. The place is too unstable, too vulnerable to pirate raids, to encourage any investment in high tech industry in those locations. What manufacturing industry that occurs at all take place in the security of space station where there are heavily armed capsuleers to protect their investments. You want warp core development Matari-side? Boundless Creation in the core worlds is where it's at. That or Thukker magic in the Great Wildlands. Seriously. Thukkers man. Those guys are amazing. Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Stitcher Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 4148	Posted - 2015.03.27 14:22:33 - [38] - Quote Pieter Tuulinen wrote: Since Caldari reactors are based on graviton theory, I'd be really interested in what would happen with an improperly shielded core... The shielding is an integral part of the reactor. If it's not perfect, the core just evaporates. You get a nice high-energy gamma burst from it, though. Very pretty, from a distance. Like, say, a few kilometers. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Rodj Blake PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1912	Posted - 2015.03.28 11:56:34 - [39] - Quote Ottom was wrong when he flew with FU2 all those years ago, and he's still wrong now. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 371	Posted - 2015.03.28 12:31:41 - [40] - Quote Rodj Blake wrote: Ottom was wrong when he flew with FU2 all those years ago, and he's still wrong now. Honestly though, he is wrong in so many things, from Amarr religion to the natural behaviour of Slaver Hounds to Matari culture that I doubt he has actually left the confinement of some cell to mingle with, well, anything since he was born. It's like he is a brain locked in jar with electrodes stuck to the cerebrum feeding it whatever erroneous information some other party felt like divulging. Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Sinjin Mokk 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 20	Posted - 2015.03.28 16:13:22 - [41] - Quote Ottom Ephesianos wrote: I use Artillary and autocannons to disable ships before I board them. Maybe you'd have better luck opening the hatch and throwing spears at them? Slugthrowers? Really? And you call yourself Amarr... Dark Amarr: Interlude
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 371	Posted - 2015.03.28 16:46:37 - [42] - Quote Sinjin Mokk wrote: Ottom Ephesianos wrote: I use Artillary and autocannons to disable ships before I board them. Maybe you'd have better luck opening the hatch and throwing spears at them? Slugthrowers? Really? And you call yourself Amarr... Oi! We no longer fire solid slugs (unless you are talking Titanium Sabot, which are supposed to pierce armour)! It's more exotic stuff now, phased plasma, nuclear fusion, contained EM charges, etc etc. these days. Though seriously, the modern shipboard projectile weapon isn't a really good option for disabling ships. Most of the time you leave very little to board once you are done. Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Ottom Ephesianos Mirkur Draug'Tyr 38	Posted - 2015.03.28 19:18:34 - [43] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Sinjin Mokk wrote: Ottom Ephesianos wrote: I use Artillary and autocannons to disable ships before I board them. Maybe you'd have better luck opening the hatch and throwing spears at them? Slugthrowers? Really? And you call yourself Amarr... Oi! We no longer fire solid slugs (unless you are talking Titanium Sabot, which are supposed to pierce armour)! It's more exotic stuff now, phased plasma, nuclear fusion, contained EM charges, etc etc. these days. Though seriously, the modern shipboard projectile weapon isn't a really good option for disabling ships. Most of the time you leave very little to board once you are done. I'm a sharp shooter mate. I hit the spot and board the pot. I don't shoot to slave I shoot to save. Then I sell the musical grave to a musician who can pay.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 371	Posted - 2015.03.29 04:34:44 - [44] - Quote Ottom Ephesianos wrote: Elmund Egivand wrote: Sinjin Mokk wrote: Ottom Ephesianos wrote: I use Artillary and autocannons to disable ships before I board them. Maybe you'd have better luck opening the hatch and throwing spears at them? Slugthrowers? Really? And you call yourself Amarr... Oi! We no longer fire solid slugs (unless you are talking Titanium Sabot, which are supposed to pierce armour)! It's more exotic stuff now, phased plasma, nuclear fusion, contained EM charges, etc etc. these days. Though seriously, the modern shipboard projectile weapon isn't a really good option for disabling ships. Most of the time you leave very little to board once you are done. I'm a sharp shooter mate. I hit the spot and board the pot. I don't shoot to slave I shoot to save. Then I sell the musical grave to a musician who can pay. And you forgot that 5000m is still a very, very long distance that will give trouble to even the most accurate sharpshooter to land a headshot. Also, our projectile weapons do not leave clean little holes. All, except Titanium Sabot, explode upon impact. Some explode after a delay (especially the case with Fusion rounds). A 125mm Barrage round leaves less of a hole and more of a torn-up breach to multiple decks. 125mm is also the bare minimum to be considered 'orbital bombardment grade'. After hammering that many rounds into a target to tear through the shields and to pound the armour and to eat into the hull, do you seriously think there would be much left to board at all? You will need a salvager to get anything useful out of it. Let's not start with the much larger rounds. Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Anabella Rella Gradient 1930	Posted - 2015.03.29 05:04:07 - [45] - Quote There's some pretty amazing whiskey coming from the Thukker caravans roaming the Great Wildlands. I also rate the ales that come from Mikramurka as some of the best I've tasted. For wines I stick with the old chateau vintages of Caille. Make fun of projectile weapons all you like but they're still very efficient and quite effective. The bigger the hole the better as far as I'm concerned. Also, there's a lot to be said for the ability to continue fighting after having one's capacitor neutralized. When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 371	Posted - 2015.03.29 05:11:08 - [46] - Quote Anabella Rella wrote: There's some pretty amazing whiskey coming from the Thukker caravans roaming the Great Wildlands. I also rate the ales that come from Mikramurka as some of the best I've tasted. For wines I stick with the old chateau vintages of Caille. Make fun of projectile weapons all you like but they're still very efficient and quite effective. The bigger the hole the better as far as I'm concerned. Also, there's a lot to be said for the ability to continue fighting after having one's capacitor neutralized. As I mentioned, the modern shipboard projectile weapons are great for simply tearing targets down to size but are terrible if one plans to board that ship afterwards. Lasers are much better options for boarding considering that they do not pierce the outer superstructure to cut into the interior per shot. Nothing beats energy neutralizers with ECM support if one plans to actually board the ship though. Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Pieter Tuulinen Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 4586	Posted - 2015.03.29 05:47:11 - [47] - Quote Anabella Rella wrote: There's some pretty amazing whiskey coming from the Thukker caravans roaming the Great Wildlands. I also rate the ales that come from Mikramurka as some of the best I've tasted. For wines I stick with the old chateau vintages of Caille. Make fun of projectile weapons all you like but they're still very efficient and quite effective. The bigger the hole the better as far as I'm concerned. Also, there's a lot to be said for the ability to continue fighting after having one's capacitor neutralized. And for those who like to do all that at very long ranges there's your friend the humble missile. "You let one of them go, but that's nothing new is it? Every now and then a little victim is allowed to escape; because she smiled, because he's got freckles, because they begged. And that's how you live with yourself. That's how you slaughter millions." "Only a killer would know that..."
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 912	Posted - 2015.03.29 08:31:43 - [48] - Quote Projectile chemical weapons are often underestimated due to their ancestors being what they were : slugthrowers. However considering the speed alone at which projectiles are sent, which makes them almost as instantaneous than railguns or lasers (at least on a scale that counts on a battlefield), hint to a lot more advanced weaponry than just slugthrowers.
Stitcher Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 4157	Posted - 2015.03.29 12:26:34 - [49] - Quote Modern projectile guns project a microwarp tunnel. The field collapses just short of the target so as to allow the round to actually hit rather than just phasing through the matter of its intended victim. That and the turret aiming array account for pretty much all of the power draw on those things. Without the microwap field those guns would have hardly any power draw at all, but they'd also have an effective range of... oh, about ten kilometers at the most? Against large and slow targets? Then there's the sheer flexibility of projectile ammo. frankly, that's an area that's not properly been explored yet. Sure, mixing it up with EMP, phased plasma, or just good old-fashioned morphite-enriched nuclear fission is all well and good, but some of the larger calibers are so big you could do damn near anything with them. How about... CRU rounds full of combat clones? Interdiction field rounds that clamp onto the hull? Grey goo rounds full of Ravager nanites? Given the comparatively slow speeds these things move at in real terms, inertial stabilizers would more than do the job of keeping such specialist ammunition intact. Claiming that projectile weaponry is "primitive" and "useless" betrays a terminal shortcoming in both imagination and in powers of observation. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 912	Posted - 2015.03.29 16:44:43 - [50] - Quote I wonder where you saw that projectile tech uses what... ? Microwarp fields ? You are aware that warp or microwarp fields necessitate capacitor energy, right ?
Stitcher Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 4159	Posted - 2015.03.31 13:45:07 - [51] - Quote what do you think all that powergrid draw is going on, the loading mechanism? An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 373	Posted - 2015.03.31 15:06:21 - [52] - Quote Stitcher wrote: what do you think all that powergrid draw is going on, the loading mechanism? Shell auto-loaders, mag-lock clamps, in-built gyrostabilizers, recoil compensators, case-ejectors, conveyors mechanisms, magazine loaders, revolving motors, built-in tracking computers, coolant ejectors, etc etc etc. All these run on continuous power. Each and every one of these turrets is capable of leading targets individually, and each and every one of them fire their payload with enough force to propel them towards their targets at sublight speed, which is why it seemed as though the damage is instantaneously applied, assuming a confirmed hit. None of these are perfect, hence the terrible optimal range of autocannons and the relatively short optimals of artilleries compared to the other long-range options. Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Stitcher Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 4159	Posted - 2015.03.31 15:30:41 - [53] - Quote Quote: Shell auto-loaders, mag-lock clamps, in-built gyrostabilizers, recoil compensators, case-ejectors, conveyors mechanisms, magazine loaders, revolving motors, built-in tracking computers, coolant ejectors, etc etc etc. If all of those combined require even a single megawatt, let alone the kind of draw that is actually siphoned into a ship's gun, then the Matari reputation for engineering genius may be a touch overrated. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Ottom Ephesianos Mirkur Draug'Tyr 38	Posted - 2015.03.31 16:21:07 - [54] - Quote Stitcher wrote: Quote: Shell auto-loaders, mag-lock clamps, in-built gyrostabilizers, recoil compensators, case-ejectors, conveyors mechanisms, magazine loaders, revolving motors, built-in tracking computers, coolant ejectors, etc etc etc. If all of those combined require even a single megawatt, let alone the kind of draw that is actually siphoned into a ship's gun, then the Matari reputation for engineering genius may be a touch overrated. "capacitor is empty." rattatat "capacitor is empty." rattattatat
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 373	Posted - 2015.03.31 17:27:33 - [55] - Quote Stitcher wrote: Quote: Shell auto-loaders, mag-lock clamps, in-built gyrostabilizers, recoil compensators, case-ejectors, conveyors mechanisms, magazine loaders, revolving motors, built-in tracking computers, coolant ejectors, etc etc etc. If all of those combined require even a single megawatt, let alone the kind of draw that is actually siphoned into a ship's gun, then the Matari reputation for engineering genius may be a touch overrated. You will be surprised how much power all the mechanical parts consume. Especially the mag-clamps and the magnetically-driven chambering mechanisms. Our turrets are very, very heavily mechanized. Do not underestimate the power draw of a fully mechanized weapons system, especially semi-intelligent mechanized weapons systems that can track targets independently and perform ballistic calculations, with much help from the capsuleer's own brain power, autonomously. Remember, when you are fitting a gun turret on a ship, you are not just clamping turrets onto the hard points, you are also fitting the entire gunnery deck with support machinery specialized for this particular turret. All of that consumes alot of power. That's why it's called 'high slot'. If we were projecting microwarp tunnels with our turrets our turrets would be drawing capacitor. Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 915	Posted - 2015.03.31 19:19:57 - [56] - Quote Stitcher wrote: what do you think all that powergrid draw is going on, the loading mechanism? Then powergrid systems and not capacitor energy would be used for warp and microwarp operations.
Stitcher Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 4163	Posted - 2015.04.01 00:40:12 - [57] - Quote Energy is Energy. Doesn't matter if it comes from the cap or the powergrid, it's all the same thing. Stop allowing MWD modules that are used to shunt whole starships around to confuse you. There's nothing magic about warp fields which states that the energy HAS to come from a capacitor, that's just how it works in the specific case of starship MWDs because that's the most practical way to hold some power in reserve and apply it when needed. When you get down to it, the energy stored in your capacitor and the energy showing through your powergrid are exactly the same thing. The cap is just a means of storing energy and rapidly releasing it on demand, it's not a different category of thing. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 375	Posted - 2015.04.01 01:43:03 - [58] - Quote Stitcher wrote: Energy is Energy. Doesn't matter if it comes from the cap or the powergrid, it's all the same. Stop allowing MWD modules that are used to shunt whole starships around to confuse you. There's nothing magic about warp fields which states that the energy HAS to come from a capacitor, that's just how it works in the specific case of starship MWDs because that's the most practical way to hold some power in reserve and apply it when needed. When you get down to it, the energy stored in your capacitor and the energy flowing through your powergrid are exactly the same thing. The cap is just a means of storing energy and rapidly releasing it on demand, it's not a different category of thing. Capacitor and powergrid energy is the same, but the utilisation of said energy is different. There is a good reason why laser turrets and hybrid blasters do not run on continuous power. It's just plain inefficient. The projection of microwarp tunnels requires the use of energy in BURSTS, and will necessitate the use of the capacitor. Using that energy continuously is inefficient and is also bad design. If you do not need all that excess energy when the turrets are at rest, you are better off just storing it in the capacitor for future use. The reason why the turrets use alot of continuous energy is, as I mentioned already, partly due to the high degree of mechanization of the turrets and the support machinery and also the amount of horsepower needed to turn the turret fast enough to track a fast moving target flying at the speed of, say, 900m/s, at 500m. Especially a turret that weights 500kg (125mm gatling autocannons) not including support structures in the mounts to prevent the turret from ripping itself off said mounts due to the recoil caused by firing a shell the length of your forearm with enough power to propel them at sublight speed! Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Stitcher Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 4163	Posted - 2015.04.01 02:19:55 - [59] - Quote Pick up any piece of cheap store-brought consumer electronics and you'll be holding an item which itself contains at least one capacitor. A capacitor is nothing ore or less than a device for storing charge and releasing it when needed. Starships don't contain one capacitor, they contain thousands. As do lasers, railguns, blasters and, yes, autocannons and howitzers. Meanwhile, here is a piece of news for you: it is not physically possible to propel a round to anything remotely resembling a relativistic speed using chemical propellant alone, no matter how efficient the burn or the shape of the chamber. I won't go into the full detail of compressible flow here, but suffice it to say that the maximum velocity of a gas is given by the following equation:[link] Where cp is the specific heat of the gas and Tt is the stagnation temperature of the flow. Obviously, a projectile cannot reach a speed higher than that of the expanding gas which is accelerating it. Which means that, if we left it to pure chemistry, this equation would put a hard cap on projectile muzzle velocities which would make them utterly useless for ship-to-ship combat at anything but the most extreme close-range. Getting those rounds out to hundreds of Km and scoring an effectively immediate hit requires the intervention of a technological solution. Without it, howitzer rounds would move slower than missiles, without the benefit of on-board guidance. That solution is microwarp fields. I don't know why you're so hung up on assuming that the power for this MUST come from the ship's capacitor, or that the gun itself is not capable of housing its own capacitor systems to provide the necessary timed discharge. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Tyrel Toov Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 241	Posted - 2015.04.01 02:38:27 - [60] - Quote You have all been lied to. Our artillery shells are lobbed down range by Brutor tribesmen, and the auto cannons have children in them doing the same. I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Ottom Ephesianos Mirkur Draug'Tyr 38	Posted - 2015.04.01 03:42:11 - [61] - Quote Tyrel Toov wrote: You have all been lied to. Our artillery shells are lobbed down range by Brutor tribesmen, and the auto cannons have children in them doing the same. ...but it's not child labor because they are just playing football below deck.
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 375	Posted - 2015.04.01 07:44:20 - [62] - Quote Stitcher wrote: Pick up any piece of cheap store-brought consumer electronics and you'll be holding an item which itself contains at least one capacitor. A capacitor is nothing ore or less than a device for storing charge and releasing it when needed. Starships don't contain one capacitor, they contain thousands. As do lasers, railguns, blasters and, yes, autocannons and howitzers. Meanwhile, here is a piece of news for you: it is not physically possible to propel a round to anything remotely resembling a relativistic speed using chemical propellant alone, no matter how efficient the burn or the shape of the chamber. I won't go into the full detail of compressible flow here, but suffice it to say that the maximum velocity of a gas is given by the following equation:[link] Where cp is the specific heat of the gas and Tt is the stagnation temperature of the flow. Obviously, a projectile cannot reach a speed higher than that of the expanding gas which is accelerating it. Which means that, if we left it to pure chemistry, this equation would put a hard cap on projectile muzzle velocities which would make them utterly useless for ship-to-ship combat at anything but the most extreme close-range. Getting those rounds out to hundreds of Km and scoring an effectively immediate hit requires the intervention of a technological solution. Without it, howitzer rounds would move slower than missiles, without the benefit of on-board guidance. That solution is microwarp fields. I don't know why you're so hung up on insisting that the power for this MUST come from the ship's capacitor, or that the gun itself is not capable of housing its own capacitor systems to provide the necessary timed discharge. As I said, energy is energy. So long as it produces the goods, does it really matter where, how and through what circuits that energy is channeled? I dispute the microwarp field theory because in-built capacitors in the circuit boards and power routers of a typical projectile turret machinery will not discharge the burst of energy required to generate a microwarp field. Do you have any idea how much energy is required to create a depleted vacuum bubble for every single projectile, where the smallest is the size of your forearm? You need a dedicated capacitor for that. Not to mention the modern microwarpdrive actually works with the warp core in our ships to generate a limited depleted vacuum bubble to move at velocities exceeding what is achievable with an afterburner. That simply doesn't work with our turrets. If you want to do that with projectiles, you will need a warp core and a microwarpdrive in every single shell. And no, I have no idea what kind of magic the chemists did to our shell propellant. You lead target, you fire the goddamn thing and the damn thing will hit the target a split-second later assuming that the recoil, tracking and trajectory calculations didn't screw up. Hang on, are you suggesting that we have a miniaturised warp core and microwarpdrive inside all the shells? Ottom Ephesianos wrote: Tyrel Toov wrote: You have all been lied to. Our artillery shells are lobbed down range by Brutor tribesmen, and the auto cannons have children in them doing the same. ...but it's not child labor because they are just playing football below deck. What sick bastard puts children in a warship? Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 915	Posted - 2015.04.01 08:16:25 - [63] - Quote I stand by what Mr Egivand explains. Furthermore it would be more convenient to use powergrid energy to fuel microwarp and warpdrives as well as laser and hybrid weaponry if that was feasible. There is simply not enough power output to allow that on any ship, antimatter/fusion core reactor or not. Also, who said that current starship projectile technology is powered by pressured gas physics ? As I said, it is not about slugthrowers anymore...
Jev North Pyre Falcon Defence and Security Multicultural F1 Brigade 197	Posted - 2015.04.01 08:37:44 - [64] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: What sick bastard puts children in a warship? Valid concern, but the enduring question of our time is what idiots put them in capsules.
Stitcher Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 4163	Posted - 2015.04.01 10:23:14 - [65] - Quote Lyn Farel wrote: who said that current starship projectile technology is powered by pressured gas physics ? As I said, it is not about slugthrowers anymore... Because the only other available efficient alternatives for accelerating a projectile are rocketry (AKA missiles), electromagnetism (AKA railguns), nuclear detonations (which would destroy the gun), and laser ablation (which according to your bizarre insistence that a ship's capacitor is the only capacitor that can do the job would also require the gun to use cap) An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 915	Posted - 2015.04.01 11:17:51 - [66] - Quote Do you seriously mean that the ship main capacitor is irrelevant and similar to... mere, single electronic capacitors ? The ship capacitor is the only capacitor ensemble that is able to store such amounts of energy... I really do not know how to explain that better, but that sounds obvious... You keep avoiding answering the simple paradox that if your theory was correct, then it would make no sense either to use the ship main capacitor to begin with, if you just had to pull your energy off the main powergrid and its lesser electronic capacitors. For the propellant in itself, I can not answer for the Matari. I am no Matari ship engineer.
Tyrel Toov Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 242	Posted - 2015.04.01 16:22:43 - [67] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Ottom Ephesianos wrote: Tyrel Toov wrote: You have all been lied to. Our artillery shells are lobbed down range by Brutor tribesmen, and the auto cannons have children in them doing the same. ...but it's not child labor because they are just playing football below deck. What sick bastard puts children in a warship? Well, the midgets wouldn't do it, and after the little talked about but brutal midget rebellion of YC 98, we weren't going to push the issue, we had to use the kids.... only the special ones though. I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Stitcher Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 4163	Posted - 2015.04.01 17:20:16 - [68] - Quote Lyn Farel wrote: Do you seriously mean that the ship main capacitor is irrelevant and similar to... mere, single electronic capacitors ? The ship capacitor is the only capacitor ensemble that is able to store such amounts of energy... I really do not know how to explain that better, but that sounds obvious... Except that that's not the case. Why do you think that's the case? Sure, it's this big prominent yellow thing in the middle of your piloting interface so I can see why you'd focus on it, but do you seriously mean to tell me that you think the only ship systems that exist are the ones you can see in your HUD? Capsuleer or not, your ship is heavily automated. You don't need to devote attention to the atmospheric system, the water purifier, the deck gravity plating or every screen, monitor or volumetric projection on the ship. Likewise, you don't need to know about the power systems in your guns because they're not relevant to you as the commander. All that matters from your perspective is "Do I have enough PG and CPU for these things?" Stop fixating on your ship's central capacitor as if it's the only example of power storage in the entire vehicle. It's not. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Lyn Farel Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque 915	Posted - 2015.04.01 19:13:47 - [69] - Quote If you are trying to insinuate that I am that daft to lean on such... idiotic considerations... Well if that's appeal to ridicule and ab absurdo you are going to use, I do not really see the point in continuing... Mr Egivand demonstrated specifically why the capacitor can not be dismissed here, and as long as the question as to why would lasers, hybrids, warp drives, and every other module still use a capacitor if such things can just lean on a basic powergrid system, is not answered, I really do not see the point...
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 376	Posted - 2015.04.02 02:02:56 - [70] - Quote Powergrid to keep the modules running. Capacitor's stored energy used for burst of energy discharges. How is that difficult to understand? Think of it this way. You use energy from the powergrid to turn on a hybrid blaster turret and all its support machinery, from loaders to mag-clamps to conveyors ferrying the ammunition to the weapons and targeting computers and etc. If you use that same powergrid to provide the additional energy to activate the magnetic rails and to convert the matter inside each canister into plasma you are going to suffer from power failure within a few seconds. So what do you do to compensate for this sudden energy usage? You use the surplus energy that is already stored in the capacitor to do so. The reason why projectile and missile weapons systems do not draw any energy from the capacitors to propel their munitions into somebody else's hull is because the energy required to do so is already stored...IN THE CASE/FUEL TANKS! You just need to divert a small amount of energy from the power grid, via circuit controls (usually an intricate network of transistors within the firing mechanism), to provide the spark inside the munitions to ignite this stored energy required to send the munitions into the bad guy's face. No stored energy from capacitor needed. Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.
Ottom Ephesianos Mirkur Draug'Tyr 41	Posted - 2015.04.02 03:58:40 - [71] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Powergrid to keep the modules running. Capacitor's stored energy used for burst of energy discharges. How is that difficult to understand? Think of it this way. You use energy from the powergrid to turn on a hybrid blaster turret and all its support machinery, from loaders to mag-clamps to conveyors ferrying the ammunition to the weapons and targeting computers and etc. If you use that same powergrid to provide the additional energy to activate the magnetic rails and to convert the matter inside each canister into plasma you won't be able to fire the weapon at all. All you get is a power failure for your trouble. Here's a short calculation to illustrate the point: An Incursus fires one Light Neutron Blaster II. Each time the Light Neutron Blaster II uses an additional 1.4161 GJ to fire. It takes 4s to fire each turret once. We assume that the time it takes for 4s to drive 1.4161 GJ needed to fire a Light Neutron Blaster II. That means it requires: 1.4161 GJ x 4s = 5.6614 GW. to fire the turrets each time. That's 5,664.4 MW for each turret. The usable energy an Incursus' reactor can output is 45MW. That's not enough energy to fire from 1 turret, let alone 3! So where did all that energy required to fire a Light Neutron Blaster II come from? Stored energy from the capacitor obviously! The reason why projectile and missile weapons systems do not draw any energy from the capacitors to propel their munitions into somebody else's hull is because the energy required to do so is already stored...IN THE CASE/FUEL TANKS! You just need to divert a small amount of energy from the power grid, via circuit controls (usually an intricate network of transistors within the firing mechanism), to provide the spark inside the munitions to convert the stored energy into the kinetic energy needed to send the munitions into the bad guy's face. No stored energy from capacitor needed. Also to avoid confusion about the 45MW, that 45MW is the amount of energy available to activate the modules AFTER you take out the energy required to activate the warp drive, the in-built defense and damage control systems, thrusters/engines, ship capacitors, sensor systems, drone controls (if applicable) and all the already-available support machinery. You have single handedly promoted my chief engineer to first mate do to your clear description of the capacitors relation to gunnery platforms.
Stitcher Alexylva Paradox Low-Class 4164	Posted - 2015.04.02 07:40:28 - [72] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Powergrid to keep the modules running. Capacitor's stored energy used for burst of energy discharges. How is that difficult to understand? Think of it this way. You use energy from the powergrid to turn on a hybrid blaster turret and all its support machinery, from loaders to mag-clamps to conveyors ferrying the ammunition to the weapons and targeting computers and etc. If you use that same powergrid to provide the additional energy to activate the magnetic rails and to convert the matter inside each canister into plasma you won't be able to fire the weapon at all. All you get is a power failure for your trouble. Here's a short calculation to illustrate the point: An Incursus fires one Light Neutron Blaster II. Each time the Light Neutron Blaster II uses an additional 1.4161 GJ to fire. It takes 4s to fire each turret once. We assume that the time it takes for 4s to drive 1.4161 GJ needed to fire a Light Neutron Blaster II. That means it requires: 1.4161 GJ x 4s = 5.6614 GW. to fire the turrets each time. That's 5,661.4 MW for each turret. The usable energy an Incursus' reactor can output is 45MW. That's not enough energy to fire from 1 turret, let alone 3! So where did all that energy required to fire a Light Neutron Blaster II come from? Stored energy from the capacitor obviously! You may as well be trying to demonstrate to me that bananas are an excellent foodstuff because muesli bars can burn. Every statistic you just listed may be completely accurate, but any relationship between them and the point being discussed is, at best, tangential. Blasters are not autocannons. The two types of guns behave in very different ways, and what each one needs in order to function correctly will similarly vary. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Elmund Egivand Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation 378	Posted - 2015.04.02 09:28:10 - [73] - Quote I had already explained why projectile and missile weapons do not draw a single joule from the capacitors, Pator dammit! Would very much love to cobble anyone who insinuates that I am a loyalist in the head with a 125mm calibre Fusion round.

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