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dailyhazard Caldari Cosmic Fusion	Posted - 2006.10.22 11:12:00 - [31] Originally by: T'Renn You don't. Pirating isn't a viable ISK revenue resource as of now. In Kali this might change (emphasis on -might-) but for now you have to realize that if you pirate, you do it for the thrill. Making ISK off it is rare, and to be honest if you're looking for iskies run missions. are you joking? Solo pirates can make so much isk its not funny. Just dont die, but ofc if you suck this is hard to do.
PCaBoo Caldari Newbies On Xstacy Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.22 11:22:00 - [32] Even if you have the skills to fly a ship, you probably don't have the skills to fly it well. You're free to buy one and fit it for future use, but keep flying cruisers until you're comfortable in PvP and can take on just about anyone in a similar class ship. I made the mistake of flying a Raven the second I finished BS 2 and I went kaboom quite a few times because of it. Another important thing with gate piracy (although not technically necessary) is scouting. If you've got an alt on the other side of the gate, you can pick and choose what you engage. Surprises are not your friend. You must surprise them, not the other way around. I've seen quite a few 'pirates' get ganked by smaller ships because they were too gung ho about killing something and engaged the first thing they saw, then a hauler appears and they stick around too long trying to take it out (even funnier when the smaller ship scrams you and they wait for the sentries to crush you). Set priorities for yourself. Are you after ISK or are you after PvP experience? You can adjust it for different situations, but don't go in there and change your mind. Always respect your ransom. If by chance you or your wingman accidentally take out the target, send back the ISK and be on your way. Keep smacktalking to a minimum. If you're pirating for ISK, it's better to be polite or just keep your mouth shut altogether. You want the targets to pay the ransom and be happy they didn't lose their ship/implants. You don't want them ****ed off and calling in friends to come gank you. Even if they don't get you, you'll be losing precious time that you could've been profiting at the gate/belt/complex/whatever. That's it I guess.
Mihae Bad Karma.	Posted - 2006.10.22 11:58:00 - [33] Also: It is very possibel to live on belt piracy, maby you wont make enought ISK to pimp ships but I am pretty sure you can buy HACs with the ISK you make from belting. And as Roule said 0.0 piracy is more ISK but then again it's ISK vs Reward ;) _____ Adapt or Die!
kublai Short Attention Span	Posted - 2006.10.22 12:01:00 - [34] Originally by: Horak Thor Edited by: Horak Thor on 22/10/2006 10:52:00 kublai just leave it whats wrong with youits a game and ** happens i got scammed for 7 mill on a courier mission then when trying to regaint he 7 mil was blown up by 3 ships and podded loosing lvl 4 industrial which takes the ** but anywho that was on my first day of rejoining eve after more than a year of absence i dont go blah blah blah about it because for the other person it was fun and soon i shall have fun blowing up random people too MUHAHAHAHA but seriously do you fancy him or something its gaaaayyyy stalking this guy he has grounds for a restraining order thatll make me laugh. but now i shall go and be noobed yet more times on eve because i suck but i love the game so wateva.when you play a game like this you must say to yourself today i may get blown up lmao and if you do you do if you dont you dont btw podding sucks ass its soooo outta order doing that, its just pure mean. I was recently scammed for 200.000.000 ISK, so what? Scamming is np, i've scammed people myself, the real issue is dishonoring a ransom, thats just -not- something you do. ---------------------------------- Real Gangsta
Setana Manoro Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.10.22 12:21:00 - [35] Originally by: JustBlaze stop ruining his thread. and if you read what i said.. he double crossed me. and how old are you anyway.. your going at this like a rabbit and theres no reason to. This is not you're thread, it's the OP's thread and the advices you have given him in the first 2 messages are truly stupid - which goes in tone with you're dishonoured ransom. Bigger ship is better ?; since when ? First do it in a Frigate, it is cheaper and you can learn how to use the scanner and learn the usual setups of the different kind of ships you will face - for instance a Domi in a belt with no guns is pretty much a no-no. Brutix is not the best Piracy ship, it's pretty much a damage dealer, so it would be best to fly as part of a group. It turns slowly, warp alligning takes ages and a small gang will fry you with ease. And btw, the original thread in which JustBlaze bragged is saved on eve-search. LINKY -------------------------------------------------- Always look on the bright side of life. :)
kublai Short Attention Span	Posted - 2006.10.22 13:25:00 - [36] That's also edithed, he just removed the auto-writing saying when it was edithed at the top, the edith is a poor excuse as to -why- he didnt honor the ransom, the replies show pretty much all you need to know though. To the OP, I added you to my buddy list, i'll pm you whenever I manage to come across you and help you out abit, I fly gallente ships myself. ---------------------------------- Real Gangsta
JustBlaze	Posted - 2006.10.22 14:00:00 - [37] making isk as a pirate doesnt need ransoms. i agree with most of what the guy said about my primary post as he is right. fly smart and arm well and you will earn isk. and for the kublai.. get over it.
JustBlaze	Posted - 2006.10.22 14:03:00 - [38] Originally by: Setana Manoro This is not you're thread, it's the OP's thread and the advices you have given him in the first 2 messages are truly stupid - which goes in tone with you're dishonoured ransom. Bigger ship is better ?; since when ? First do it in a Frigate, it is cheaper and you can learn how to use the scanner and learn the usual setups of the different kind of ships you will face - for instance a Domi in a belt with no guns is pretty much a no-no. Brutix is not the best Piracy ship, it's pretty much a damage dealer, so it would be best to fly as part of a group. It turns slowly, warp alligning takes ages and a small gang will fry you with ease. bigger ship means you can take on bigger targets. yes fly a frigate to start off with.. thats simple logic but once you get the hang of things grab yourself a big beasty and take harder people on.
Masta Killa The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.22 17:45:00 - [39] The noobs belong in low sec while the real pirates fight in 0.0. And turning a big profit is easy. -------------------------------------- Different corp but we still show up and UDIE.
Chr0nosX	Posted - 2006.10.22 19:45:00 - [40] I took out a thorax and got some advice for fitting from a pirate and went out with a corp friend I only made about 2.2mil but it was good fun.
Kresh Vladir Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.22 21:35:00 - [41] Originally by: T'Renn You don't. Pirating isn't a viable ISK revenue resource as of now. In Kali this might change (emphasis on -might-) but for now you have to realize that if you pirate, you do it for the thrill. Making ISK off it is rare, and to be honest if you're looking for iskies run missions. come to tama me and my rl friend have been in this corp for almost 2 months now i used to have more isk then him he had about 1.5b before joining now hes -10 and has 4.6b
Izo Azlion Veto.	Posted - 2006.10.22 22:10:00 - [42] Originally by: JustBlaze right rules of pirating are always know the people in the system, meaning if theres 5 people in system and you know they arnt docked (you scanned) you dont pirate. yes a better ship helps i suggest a megathron, the most powerful bs out and t2 armament wouldnt go a miss. try doing some pvp before you pirate, learn some things about the ships you will face. always arm your ship so your never on a thread, meaning make sure you can tank multiple types not just one, if you are tanking. rule 1o1 pick your targets wisley. lets say a faction battleship roles in and you have your bs ready, i doubt you will defeat it alone so always have help ready if you need it. learn the surroundings so if somthing goes wrong you have a ss or a moon you can warp to. do the kill grab the loot and leave do not sit around to think you are always a target after a kill. these are some things i go by when it comes to killing/pirating. Unskilled Megathron pilot will get caught, and with a T1 fit, it'll die very easily. Go for a Vexor or Thorax, better yet, an Ishkur. Izo Azlion. ---
Leikeze Mrotserif Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2006.10.22 22:29:00 - [43] Originally by: Kresh Vladir Originally by: T'Renn You don't. Pirating isn't a viable ISK revenue resource as of now. In Kali this might change (emphasis on -might-) but for now you have to realize that if you pirate, you do it for the thrill. Making ISK off it is rare, and to be honest if you're looking for iskies run missions. come to tama me and my rl friend have been in this corp for almost 2 months now i used to have more isk then him he had about 1.5b before joining now hes -10 and has 4.6b It's all about where you set up shop -------------------------------------
kublai Short Attention Span	Posted - 2006.10.22 22:49:00 - [44] Originally by: Chr0nosX I took out a thorax and got some advice for fitting from a pirate and went out with a corp friend I only made about 2.2mil but it was good fun. Who could this thorax god be? ---------------------------------- Real Gangsta
Leikeze Mrotserif Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2006.10.22 22:58:00 - [45] Edited by: Leikeze Mrotserif on 22/10/2006 22:58:51 double post noooooooo -------------------------------------
Leikeze Mrotserif Murder-Death-Kill	Posted - 2006.10.22 22:58:00 - [46] Originally by: kublai Originally by: Chr0nosX I took out a thorax and got some advice for fitting from a pirate and went out with a corp friend I only made about 2.2mil but it was good fun. Who could this thorax god be? I am teh thorax god -------------------------------------
Benglada Finite Horizon	Posted - 2006.10.22 23:45:00 - [47] Edited by: Benglada on 22/10/2006 23:45:31 i made a lot of isk pirating in my dominix then i started flying hacs --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
kublai Short Attention Span	Posted - 2006.10.23 03:32:00 - [48] Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif Originally by: kublai Originally by: Chr0nosX I took out a thorax and got some advice for fitting from a pirate and went out with a corp friend I only made about 2.2mil but it was good fun. Who could this thorax god be? I am teh thorax god !! That's it, i'mma kick yo ass leikeze, we had this convo before! you can be my sidekick, the vexor god or some crap like that. ---------------------------------- Real Gangsta
Rina Shanu Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.10.23 06:39:00 - [49] 1st - don't be a JustBlaze, bad for your rep and ransoming 2nd - do not pirate in that ship, it's bad unless you gots skill points into it and still, it's not that good unless you as a gall pilot have been mastering the drone skills 3rd - learn to make safe spots - do not use ss between warpable objects very often 4th - learn to use the scanner very well, to be able to detect people in a system in a min aprox and now what they are flying and if flying together 5th - I'd recomend a thorax, check the ships threaad for setups and/or ask arround, but most important, exercise with a buddy different setups and see how it handles. The thorax may be much closer to your skill points and is also cheaper. Plus raxes have a nice combination of tankability and damage, and you can make one hell of a damagedealer out of it. Image removed, not appropriate for this site. -Suvetar then make me a sig Suvetar what has 4 legs and 1 arm? a happy pitbull
The Cursed Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.10.23 07:41:00 - [50] Pirating is a very profitable job in eve. You can make a coupleof bil in a few month doing the right thing and not getting killed. As far as hurting people feelings be prepared to be called everyhting under the sun. At some point your no longer called a pirate but instead a a-hole or piece of sh*t so on so on. I love to grief peeps best part of the game. Beer em Good!!!!!! Signature removed. Please review the forum rules or e-mail us with any questions - Petwraith
PCaBoo Caldari Newbies On Xstacy Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.23 08:28:00 - [51] just reminded me .. if you/your corp controls the system, you can sell mining rights or free passage rights to folks. Which can be very profitable.

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