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Shiloh Templeton Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 271	Posted - 2015.03.26 01:21:06 - [1] - Quote EFT makes it look like the Mach has more DPS, and of course a lot more speed.
Aerie Evingod Midwest Miners LLC 160	Posted - 2015.03.26 01:26:48 - [2] - Quote Not everyone wants to play the same way? Vargur can tank more and apply its DPS better, EWAR immunity, and can salvage as it runs missions.
Shiloh Templeton Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 271	Posted - 2015.03.26 01:46:01 - [3] - Quote Aerie Evingod wrote: Not everyone wants to play the same way? I didn't mean for the question to come across as a troll. I recently got a Mach and I'm trying to figure out if a Vargur should be my next ship. Would it replace the Mach, be used in conjunction with the Mach for particular missions, applicable with a salvaging alt, etc.?
Aerie Evingod Midwest Miners LLC 161	Posted - 2015.03.26 02:53:18 - [4] - Quote For missions I would stick with Mach. The tank bonus of the vargur in PvE will only come in in high end sigs/escalations.
Sweetsthehooker Zateki The Desolate Order Brave Collective 14	Posted - 2015.03.26 03:11:12 - [5] - Quote Aerie Evingod wrote: For missions I would stick with Mach. The tank bonus of the vargur in PvE will only come in in high end sigs/escalations. Edit: specifically, for missions the Mach will probably be faster. However, if you get butterflies from salvaging and it brings you joy like no other you may consider the vargur. For missions they are both solo beasts. Well you wouldnt use a marauder for escalations....ever But solo c5 marauding is where the vargur shines
Arronicus Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx 1487	Posted - 2015.03.26 03:44:25 - [6] - Quote Sweetsthehooker Zateki wrote: Aerie Evingod wrote: For missions I would stick with Mach. The tank bonus of the vargur in PvE will only come in in high end sigs/escalations. Edit: specifically, for missions the Mach will probably be faster. However, if you get butterflies from salvaging and it brings you joy like no other you may consider the vargur. For missions they are both solo beasts. Well you wouldnt use a marauder for escalations....ever But solo c5 marauding is where the vargur shines Funny, I've had a lot of luck doing escalations in a golem. Guess I'm doing it wrong even though I clear the sites quickly and haven't lost one yet, huh?
Sweetsthehooker Zateki The Desolate Order Brave Collective 14	Posted - 2015.03.26 03:52:12 - [7] - Quote Arronicus wrote: Sweetsthehooker Zateki wrote: Aerie Evingod wrote: For missions I would stick with Mach. The tank bonus of the vargur in PvE will only come in in high end sigs/escalations. Edit: specifically, for missions the Mach will probably be faster. However, if you get butterflies from salvaging and it brings you joy like no other you may consider the vargur. For missions they are both solo beasts. Well you wouldnt use a marauder for escalations....ever But solo c5 marauding is where the vargur shines Funny, I've had a lot of luck doing escalations in a golem. Guess I'm doing it wrong even though I clear the sites quickly and haven't lost one yet, huh? mmm perhaps there are two types of escalations in the game? o well. I speak from wh experience.
Aerie Evingod Midwest Miners LLC 161	Posted - 2015.03.26 04:57:06 - [8] - Quote Sweetsthehooker Zateki wrote: Arronicus wrote: Sweetsthehooker Zateki wrote: Aerie Evingod wrote: For missions I would stick with Mach. The tank bonus of the vargur in PvE will only come in in high end sigs/escalations. Edit: specifically, for missions the Mach will probably be faster. However, if you get butterflies from salvaging and it brings you joy like no other you may consider the vargur. For missions they are both solo beasts. Well you wouldnt use a marauder for escalations....ever But solo c5 marauding is where the vargur shines Funny, I've had a lot of luck doing escalations in a golem. Guess I'm doing it wrong even though I clear the sites quickly and haven't lost one yet, huh? mmm perhaps there are two types of escalations in the game? o well. I speak from wh experience. Perhaps there are. For K-space sigs and escalations (where I should have clarified I guess...?) vargur is pretty awesome.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE 997	Posted - 2015.03.26 05:29:34 - [9] - Quote I just fly a Mach. better warp speed, better agility, better speed, better dps. When I want a marauder I usually fly a paladin, although you might want to change that depending on what space you fly in. @ChainsawPlankto
Tsukino Stareine Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class 1111	Posted - 2015.03.26 06:06:30 - [10] - Quote Marauder is for when you need the tank, things that come into mind: Soloing C5 combat anoms 10/10s HQ anchor If you're just doing level 4 missions, stick with the mach

ChromeStriker Out of Focus Odin's Call 861	Posted - 2015.03.26 08:46:13 - [11] - Quote Also those missions withcrazy ewar... No Worries
Proffessor Fate 2K Helium Enterprises 0	Posted - 2015.03.26 10:05:10 - [12] - Quote Choose the non mach. I lost a mach worth 2bil in a lv 4, it sucks
Chenguang Hucel-Ge Exiled Tech Space Monkey Protectorate 21	Posted - 2015.03.26 12:40:02 - [13] - Quote The answer will disappoint you - when internet connection sucks. If it's not, you just use mach. And if it doesn't work, you just arm second mach and take it for a spin. I believe I saw someone using two different machs at the same time, one AC and one arty.
Shiloh Templeton Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 271	Posted - 2015.03.26 13:53:41 - [14] - Quote Thanks for the replies - I think I'll save the isk and concentrate on Battleship and Gunnery skills for awhile.
GordonO Evil Guinea Pigs 100	Posted - 2015.03.27 01:34:46 - [15] - Quote Proffessor Fate wrote: Choose the non mach. I lost a mach worth 2bil in a lv 4, it sucks Not the mach's fault I can assure you.. my indy alt with lvl 3 bs and meta 4 guns does just fine in a mach. Varg as mentioned is best if there is lots of ewar...and you feeling lazy. EVGP Is recruiting https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=412227
March rabbit Federal Defense Union 1575	Posted - 2015.03.27 18:07:12 - [16] - Quote How do you deal with NPC ewar? I have tried regular BS once.... Got damped to no-lock and then switched to Marauder. The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Tsukino Stareine Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class 1113	Posted - 2015.03.27 19:12:50 - [17] - Quote Proffessor Fate wrote: Choose the non mach. I lost a mach worth 2bil in a lv 4, it sucks was it pilot error or being ganked? (arguably being ganked is still pilot error but..) March rabbit wrote: How do you deal with NPC ewar? I have tried regular BS once.... Got damped to no-lock and then switched to Marauder. Don't fight guristas, serpentis or sansha?
Christine Peeveepeeski Low Sec Concepts 724	Posted - 2015.03.28 01:39:56 - [18] - Quote Vargurs are beasts in low sec. They make stunning level 5 or high DED site runners. You could take a mach to these and then you'd be finding out why the ewar immunity is an absolute must have. In high sec, well I guess go attack angels, take a mach. Win eve?
Antillie Sa'Kan KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 943	Posted - 2015.03.28 02:43:22 - [19] - Quote March rabbit wrote: How do you deal with NPC ewar? I have tried regular BS once.... Got damped to no-lock and then switched to Marauder. Activate your marauder's bastion mode and laugh.


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