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Marconious
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:06:00 -
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Cookies if you release these items into game ---
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:09:00 -
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How did you find these ? -------------------- SoonÖ Copyright CCP. 90% of what I post is NOT to be takin in any serious way. |

Marconious
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:10:00 -
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A ingame database search engine. ---
Sig not hijacked since 2004. -Marconious |

Gone'Postal
Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:13:00 -
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/signed to get them ingame, is this application free to download. ect ect, i'd love to have a look around  -------------------- SoonÖ Copyright CCP. 90% of what I post is NOT to be takin in any serious way. |

MellaRinn
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:18:00 -
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interesting
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Deadeye Dave
Amarr Lynx Frontier Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:20:00 -
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They look pretty cool Buffy, Blade and Helsing anti-vampire systems. The anti-cloaking pulse definately looks useful and not overpowered with its 15km range.
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MECTO
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:21:00 -
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last one would kill covert ops as the class. good that it won't be released. and Anti-Vampire is like ECCM - who bother to fit those?
Originally by: Kusotarre I am awesome in fleets, everyone on teamspeak trembles in fear as my battlecry blasts through their headphones, heralding a new era of target-less randomosity.
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Victor Valka
Caldari Terra Incognita
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: MECTO ...and Anti-Vampire is like ECCM - who bother to fit those?
Smart people.
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Marconious
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Gone'Postal /signed to get them ingame, is this application free to download. ect ect, i'd love to have a look around 
Visit http://eve.grismar.net/showinfo/index.php and type in the search box whatever... ---
Sig not hijacked since 2004. -Marconious |

Frezik
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Deadeye Dave They look pretty cool Buffy, Blade and Helsing anti-vampire systems. The anti-cloaking pulse definately looks useful and not overpowered with its 15km range.
With Covert Ops cloaks at their current prices, any way to detect cloaked vessles is overpowered. Invention is unlikely to help this case since invention needs a t1 BPC, and the BPOs of cloaks are limited for all levels of cloaks.
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EvilNate
Caldari Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:54:00 -
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A big NO to the anti cloaking device, people would just stop flying them, peroid and it would kill any class of ship that uses them.
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Jallen
Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.22 20:58:00 -
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Have you guys looked at the cycle time on the ACD? 15km radius every 30 seconds. That's fine.
Cov Ops should not be a guaranteed get-away button.
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Idara
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.22 21:06:00 -
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I love the names for them. Helsing and Voila. 
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Tiny Timm
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Posted - 2006.10.22 21:06:00 -
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Photoshop + bad grammar FTL!
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Siege
Minmatar Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2006.10.22 21:07:00 -
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Edited by: Siege on 22/10/2006 21:09:29 Wait, did you just say that 'ANY' device that causes uncloaks is overpowered? Does that involve smartbombs, random cans, corpses, drones and lucky ships that somehow get close enough to you to do it? Man, I'm glad I don't use any of those.
Seriously though, it doesn't really seem to bad to me either. A good Cov-Ops pilot shouldn't have any problem staying more than 15km away from other ships. After all, you can see them but they can't see you, so it's not like they are actively chasing you with any accuracy. It'll be like playing a big backward game of Marco Polo, where you have your eyes open and everybody else is blind trying to find you.
And I don't think it's photoshopped, they DO show up in the Grismar search.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2006.10.22 21:24:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 22/10/2006 21:27:47
Originally by: Tiny Timm Photoshop + bad grammar FTL!
Bad grammar, arguably. Photoshop, not. They ARE actual items you can see too inside the game. Open this ingame __
P.S. Other interesting 3+ chars as module finderyou might want to look at when inside grismar's showingo:
sov 'bro 'gecko
and so on __ Always question everything. Including yourself. My skills (on BIG public site) |

Marconious
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.10.22 21:32:00 -
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Edited by: Marconious on 22/10/2006 21:32:30
Originally by: Tiny Timm Photoshop + bad grammar FTL!
They are not photoshopped use any common (ingame) database search engine and you will find them for themselves.. i am not trying to sell them so why would i photoshop? k thx. ---
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Frezik
Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
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Posted - 2006.10.22 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: Siege Edited by: Siege on 22/10/2006 21:09:29 Wait, did you just say that 'ANY' device that causes uncloaks is overpowered? Does that involve smartbombs, random cans, corpses, drones and lucky ships that somehow get close enough to you to do it? Man, I'm glad I don't use any of those.
Yes, I did say that. Something needs to be done about the cloaking device production chain. Then we can introduce reasonable counter modules.
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MeGrand
Gallente Thunder Talons 3rd Front Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.22 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Siege Edited by: Siege on 22/10/2006 21:09:29 Wait, did you just say that 'ANY' device that causes uncloaks is overpowered? Does that involve smartbombs, random cans, corpses, drones and lucky ships that somehow get close enough to you to do it? Man, I'm glad I don't use any of those.
Seriously though, it doesn't really seem to bad to me either. A good Cov-Ops pilot shouldn't have any problem staying more than 15km away from other ships. After all, you can see them but they can't see you, so it's not like they are actively chasing you with any accuracy. It'll be like playing a big backward game of Marco Polo, where you have your eyes open and everybody else is blind trying to find you.
And I don't think it's photoshopped, they DO show up in the Grismar search.
actually i would think the specific instance is at gates that causes the objections..
Think i jump in at a gate - move and warp 98% of the time (lag permiting) i survice
- with this one tackler at the gate fire uncloacker, i'm stuffed
i don't mind all the things you mentioed (with the possible exemption of drones ;-), but their would be NO easy way to avoid that
cov-opps ships live be being able to see you - not harm you, this would severaly restrict their use - no thanks
- would also stop gate snipers being getable at - as warp in points
anti vampire could be fun, though why fit it?, unless the grid reqs where way lower than nostefratus why just not fit them - they they work even if your enamy HASn't fitted em
so no to both of those moduals
whiskey to devs NOT to put em in 
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Spy4Hire
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Posted - 2006.10.22 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jallen Have you guys looked at the cycle time on the ACD? 15km radius every 30 seconds. That's fine.
Cov Ops should not be a guaranteed get-away button.
This is still a guranteed get-away button. What covert ops, besides perhaps a bomber or recon, sits within 15km of anything? They'll usually only get that close when they're trying to sneak to a gate or jump a sniper in lowsec.
I say increase the range on the device to 50km +10km per level in covert ops countermeasures skill (or just cov ops skill alone). THAT will put covert ops gatespies at some risk, but far from a complete cov ops killer.
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2006.10.22 21:48:00 -
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\that anti cloacking Smart bomb is a ******* must.
Quote: "Don't touch the RED but
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EvilNate
Caldari Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.22 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jallen Have you guys looked at the cycle time on the ACD? 15km radius every 30 seconds. That's fine.
Cov Ops should not be a guaranteed get-away button.
U don't need it on constantly, 1 burst is enough to screw over any cov-ops pilot. Gate camp, cov-op jumps in, he cloaks, but is within 15km of gate, you activate device... and wham, you are 70m+ ISK richer.
Make it 8-10km and it's fine, 15km is a bit much.
Nate
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lofty29
Praxiteles Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.22 22:06:00 -
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Isnt there a 'Buffy' Vampire Slayer? ---
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Taaketa Frist
The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.22 22:08:00 -
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a greater energy cost of use and PG is needed for it as well.
Being decloaked in your covert ops is like cheese from the moon... I duno where I was going with that. I am tired. --------------
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Tiny Timm
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Posted - 2006.10.22 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 22/10/2006 21:27:47
Originally by: Tiny Timm Photoshop + bad grammar FTL!
Bad grammar, arguably. Photoshop, not. They ARE actual items you can see too inside the game. Open this ingame __
P.S. Other interesting 3+ chars as module finderyou might want to look at when inside grismar's showingo:
sov 'bro 'gecko
and so on
lol!!
No wonder so many scammers target people in this game.
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Xelios
Minmatar Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.10.22 22:16:00 -
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Anti Cloaking pulse would be a horrible thing to put into the game with cov ops cloaks topping 75 mil...
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Nimwa
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Posted - 2006.10.22 22:58:00 -
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Maybe the pulse will costs 75mil, too (,
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.10.22 23:45:00 -
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Holy ****, you people whine a lot. I LOVE the anti-cloaking pulse idea. It takes some guesswork, too. If your cloaker is doing his damn job, you won't know to even use it. ---------------------------- Remember, killing a Goon isn't murder. They don't have souls. |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2006.10.23 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tiny Timm lol!! No wonder so many scammers target people in this game.
Nobody said about any INSTANCES of the items EXISTING inside the game. You know, like for example, Shield Power Relay IIs or Nanofiber Internal Structure IIs. You don't doubt THOSE "exist", now do you ? But you wouldn't pay money in advance for one unless you can see it on escrow, right ? __ Always question everything. Including yourself. My skills (on BIG public site) |

Gierling
Gallente Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.23 01:02:00 -
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If the anti-cloak module was released Covort ops prices would become far more reasonable very quickly.
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