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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.03.29 09:17:36 -
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you are not the forst and the last person who don't like current BS (not sure why pirat SB got missed in stats)
anyway what is your proposal in regard of buff stats? Shah has already linked CCP comments about it, so time to seriously think about what you want and put all together vs finger pointing
waiting... |

Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.03 23:28:58 -
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If gou want to see more accurate data you should take a monthly cut of all bs's purchases in high/low sec and then compare with zkill stats of kills. Eventhough that gives you a very raw numbers cause some of those lost ships could be purchased long ago. So your delta will show you approx. usage at pve. But again some of those could be purchased for re-sell or still be docked up without usage. |

Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.04 04:04:59 -
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Amanda Guido wrote:I have said it once and I will say it again, I don't care what garbage CCP comes up with, Battleships are not worth fielding. Their effectiveness per cost is terrible. They are huge, hulking, snail paced, slow locking, big fat targets, with great on-paper stats, but in reality are not able to apply half of their dps to anything that's not stationary and of equal size.
When I can buy a HAC or even faction cruiser that has similar stats and better applied dps, over a wider range of targets, that is not slow as hell, and can lock stuff in under a months time, for much less cost, why would I ever bother with a battleship? It is common sense. Battleship are obsolete in the current meta game. Only a fool says the ship balance is in an adequate state. Their statistics are fabricated, almost nobody pilots a BS outside of a capital fleet, and even then there are much better vessels for the task.
They are simply too vulnerable and expensive for their poor performance.
I hear you bro, it's always bad to lose your afk pimped faction BS. You have my regrats on that. |

Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.05 04:10:59 -
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Amanda you do like to overband a stick. Looks like the only frig guy has friend and battleship pilot is a lonly idiot. My multibillion dual web Vindi will smash most of the frigs by drones only. Sorry for that. |

Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.05 20:51:43 -
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Mega Face wrote:Tiddle Jr wrote:Amanda you do like to overband a stick. Looks like the only frig guy has friend and battleship pilot is a lonly idiot. My multibillion dual web Vindi will smash most of the frigs by drones only. Sorry for that. What you aren't realizing is that there are hard counters to battleships that you can purchase for 3m ISK or less. Yes, x3 T1 frigates can, and will kill your multi-billion dollar dream boat for more reasons than your space bugatti can actually handle. Also, the most you're getting out of those webs are 15kms, boss. 19km if you're overheated or 25km if you want to make your KM loss to 5 catalysts even more spectacularly hilarious. So no, you're dead in the water - just like every other battleship to smaller hulls. Let me know the next time you go soloing with your vindi, and let me know how many of those kills were on tacklers and not the shuttles you're proposing you dual web on a daily basis.
First of all Can you please read more attentively what others said to Amanda? Or you just another overbander?
She said a 30m frig which is under my gunz. So it's close orbiting. No look what i said back to her.
If you have lads in Catalysts and any other crappy frigs behind you i would certanly have lads backing up my vindi. |

Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.05 23:25:07 -
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Mega Face wrote:NightmareX wrote:Mega Face wrote:Where are you getting 22km webs is what i'm wondering? If you're suggesting that it takes a 3billion isk module ontop of a 1billion isk highly specialized faction battleship, mixed in with any other stupidly improbable pvp set-ups you're EFTing @ me right now. Just to have a chance to kill a group of bread and butter frigates, shouldn't that be testimony to the current state of battleship vs smaller hull warfare?
You're suggesting upwards to 5billion isk to kill a group of harpies. "tactical moves" entirely limited by your agility unfortunately, because the minute you burn a straight line in one direction, and the 13 seconds it's going to take you to get to your full velocity, we've already had ample amounts of time for the game to actually auto-correct our orbit automatically. The Vindicator i had did cost 2.5 bill isk in total with 2x FN webbers when i sold it. About the web range. If you use a FN webber and overloads it, you will have 18.4km web range. And if you add some fleet bonuses to web range on top of that, you can get to 22km or something like that in range i think (correct me if i'm wrong here). EDIT: Here is the setup i used: http://eve.battleclinic.com/view_loadout.php?id=43960Guess why it have such a huge amount of views and likes  ? So the narrative becomes even more comical when not only do you need a 1b faction battleship, but gang links with max skills on a secondary ship, while overheating your web - just to have a sliver of hope to kill some long ranged frigates. Yet you still don't see how grossly imbalanced frigates are vs battleships? You've pretty much added every thing to your advantage in this fight, and all they'd have to do is manually tackle you in their 2m frigates. You seem to forget that they can overheat as well, and they don't have to risk popping a 400m isk web in the process. You aren't going to win against frigates, ever, at all.
Cool story bro. The only one who made the whole thing comic is you.
The case was very clear - dual web vindi and drones vs 30m frig orbiting under vindi's guns. But suddenly you start talkig about your friends who bring catalysts then there is Harpy gang etc etc.
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.05 23:52:28 -
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Glad to hear that we finally agree on the case your 30m frig won't own my +2b (dual web) Vindi.
Cheers |

Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.06 05:42:40 -
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Iroquoiss Pliskin wrote:I think OP has gotten his asnwer: You need a a specific Pirate faction battleship with 1b in mods and a links alt to kill frigates in a BS nowadays.  Tongue in cheek, of course.  Maybe not. http://i.imgur.com/z4ynWV9.png
Don't mix up the things. It was a statement not a question to answer. And statement was that BS are terrible that bad that even a lonely frig could kill a bs in 1 vs. 1 engagement. |
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