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Caffeine Junkie
Caldari The Ministry Of Funny Walks
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Posted - 2006.10.23 12:57:00 -
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Is it too much to ask to have a mining barge that can handle a little bit of firepower? I'm not asking for T2 Torp launchers and the capacity to take down an angry megathron. But a couple of reasonable guns next to strip miners that could knock out < 50k rats when coupled with some drones?
....que the complaints... ___________________ Girlfriend's frying pan strikes you perfectly wrecking for 1072.4 damage. |

Kala Veijo
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.10.23 12:59:00 -
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Apocalypse 
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Caffeine Junkie
Caldari The Ministry Of Funny Walks
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:00:00 -
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Suppose a 'rax might work too? ___________________ Girlfriend's frying pan strikes you perfectly wrecking for 1072.4 damage. |

Ilmonstre
Minmatar 0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:07:00 -
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a barge is ment to be weak you can easily stay there when you have someone else around that can kill off those rats.
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DuckM4n Vo
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:11:00 -
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its called drones!
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Ozzie Asrail
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:14:00 -
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a hulk with T2 drones! -----
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Calsak
Black Thorne Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:15:00 -
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Yep, drones, used them in all the way down to 0.5 against rats without problems. I fit a remote armor rep to my 2nd account character who hauls just in case they ever get me into armor. I've only ever had to use it once and that was I was too busy chatting on Corp and didn't notice the rats spawn 
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Rimhawk
Caldari Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:25:00 -
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Large barge with T2 drones will do it. Or at least it does for me. You do have to pay attention though. If you're a bit late deploying drones because you are AFK, you're dead.
But if I have drones ready I can generally take down all rats in 0.5 and higher space before I get into trouble.
Of course if you can do it with the large T1 barge, you can do it with T2 barges at your leisure... . Rimhawk Winds of Vengeance (W8V) |

Calsak
Black Thorne Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:33:00 -
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You don't need Tech II drones. I use a Covertor with 5 Hammerheads (change as per the damage type of rat you are seeing) and they defend me in 0.5 no problems, don't even 1/5 through my shields. But I do agree you have to pay attention.
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Trahern Twrgadarn
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:52:00 -
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I have always found CCP's ship designs rather extreme, for some reason indy ships have always been a bit crap. Take freighters for instance, who in their right mind would design such a massive ship without any deffenses?!?!, crazy.
Surely when you have a ship which can carry millions-billions of isk worth of equipment, you would want to somehow make sure you have something to at least give you a chance of surviving.
Crazy.
As for the 'get corpies/friends to help', unfortunately not everyone wants to do the same thing at the same time and place.
Quote: Creana > u`r momma is so fat , that BOB mistaken her for a region and claimed her
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Vasiliyan
PAX Interstellar Services
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Posted - 2006.10.23 13:55:00 -
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Osprey? Drones + a launcher works in 0.4.
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Amantus
Murientor Tribe Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.10.23 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Amantus on 23/10/2006 14:08:50 A retriever can kill any 0.4 spawn easily with hobgoblin II drones. Let the drones orbit you all the time and they should draw some of the agro of the spawn. Instruct them to kill the rats that's shooting at them and then instruct them to kill the rest.
Have a small armor rep (named preferably) and fill your remaining mid and low slots with cap rechargers and cap power relays. These will give you enough cap to keep the strips running and let you use your repper as well.
A hulk can also tank rats easily. Tech II medium drones and good drone skills will kill rat BS no problem. -----------
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Caffeine Junkie
Caldari The Ministry Of Funny Walks
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Posted - 2006.10.23 14:14:00 -
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I'm in 0.1 ___________________ Girlfriend's frying pan strikes you perfectly wrecking for 1072.4 damage. |

Garet Taak
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Posted - 2006.10.23 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Trahern Twrgadarn I have always found CCP's ship designs rather extreme, for some reason indy ships have always been a bit crap.
2006.10.20 20:31
Victim: getthem Alliance: NONE Corp: State War Academy Destroyed: Retriever System: Kusomonmon Security: 0.8
Involved parties:
Name: Garet Taak (laid the final blow) Security: -0.1 Alliance: NONE Corp: Border Revolutions Ship: Badger Weapon: Light Electron Blaster I
Name: Guristas Arrogator / Guristas
Destroyed items:
Photonic CPU Enhancer I Mining Laser Upgrade I Mining Drone I (Drone Bay) Hornet I (Drone Bay)
Modulated strip miner II x2 ... 40 million. Pyroxeres crystal II x4 ... 3.5 million.
The look on the miner's face when he gets squished by the Battle Badger.... Priceless.
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Daagon
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Posted - 2006.10.23 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: Daagon on 23/10/2006 17:35:21
Originally by: Caffeine Junkie Is it too much to ask to have a mining barge that can handle a little bit of firepower? ...But a couple of reasonable guns next to strip miners that could knock out < 50k rats when coupled with some drones?
As others have already said, drones can easily do this. I've been doing just fine in .3 in a Covetor with 1 t1 armor rep, and 5 med t1 drones, and Drone Interfacing up to 3. Handles the rats just fine.
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murder one
Gallente CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.23 18:01:00 -
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Originally by: Garet Taak
Originally by: Trahern Twrgadarn I have always found CCP's ship designs rather extreme, for some reason indy ships have always been a bit crap.
2006.10.20 20:31
Victim: getthem Alliance: NONE Corp: State War Academy Destroyed: Retriever System: Kusomonmon Security: 0.8
Involved parties:
Name: Garet Taak (laid the final blow) Security: -0.1 Alliance: NONE Corp: Border Revolutions Ship: Badger Weapon: Light Electron Blaster I
Name: Guristas Arrogator / Guristas
Destroyed items:
Photonic CPU Enhancer I Mining Laser Upgrade I Mining Drone I (Drone Bay) Hornet I (Drone Bay)
Modulated strip miner II x2 ... 40 million. Pyroxeres crystal II x4 ... 3.5 million.
The look on the miner's face when he gets squished by the Battle Badger.... Priceless.
Battle Badgers FTW \o/ <if you're interested, search crime/punishment for my battle Badger thread hehe>
Because I said so...
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Quin Tal
Fort Knox Inc Expeto Libertas Foedus
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Posted - 2006.10.23 18:15:00 -
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A guy in my alliance sits in 0.0 all day with a Hulk and T2 drones, and he can tank all the Conq spawns no problem.
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Insidi Us
Amarr The Imperial Commonwealth Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.23 18:28:00 -
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I just follow my second account's retriever around with my primary account's arbitrator. Drone swarms + light scrambling is enough for 0.5.
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