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Vantick Iscod
Wolfenrecon Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.10.24 17:29:00 -
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Stuck at work... Any news on its bonus changing?
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sr blackout
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:41:00 -
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no clue, i hope the hp changes are in this kali? are they? if not then i dont know how they will be testing that... that is important testing and capitals i think need far more then 50% :/ it was said maybe 100% or so... now the fights will last long but concentrated fire is still there... and that means carries will not have the time to rep others and themseleves not enough hp buffer, not to mention the crazy cap req on capital remotes 
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sr blackout
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.24 20:52:00 -
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also the 50% hp boost has to go to all drones and esp fighters... now everything last longer and fighters will be called targets way way too often since how a bs can tank a carrier far far more then ever before... i dont see how this works out well for carrier pilots with 20M a fighter... 
capitals need far more hp then 50% and the fighters need more too concentrated fire pops them very fast, and they are far more expensive then a cruiser is 
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Kallistan
MAAK Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.24 22:58:00 -
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The nidh (and other cap ships as far as i know) have been seriously boosted, hp wise. about 140k armor now, around 130k shield. crappy bonus still the same though.
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sr blackout
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.25 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Kallistan The nidh (and other cap ships as far as i know) have been seriously boosted, hp wise. about 140k armor now, around 130k shield. crappy bonus still the same though.
the crap bonus still there? 
how did that get buy i dont get it
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Drutort
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:04:00 -
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any updates yet? any changes made? today? or maybe it was broken description? |

CelticWarrior
Lords Of Guile Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2006.10.25 18:54:00 -
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This carriers bonus really needs looking at, atm its no kind of a bonus at all, it just eats your cap up quicker for no great benefit and minm ships dont have the greatest of cap to begin with.
With the big hp increases that carriers seem to be getting in kali they are becoming more viable as a front line ship,caldari and amarr certainly are with there resist bonuses and the gall carrier with its 10% damage per lvl owns.I personally would like to see a tracking bonus on the minm fighters at say 10% per lvl.
With most ships in kali getting a hp increase some of the smaller boats will be flying around without any respect for the bigger boats and in particular carriers, usually goes something like this "nah nah fighters cant hit me u noob" etc. Now giving minm fighters a 10% tracking per lvl aint exactly gonna rip a new one to the real little boats but its a start.
Option 2 Add a webber bonus on the carrier to range, webber bonuses are used on minm recon so its not gonna be something new, make that at lvl 4 trained the webber has the 20km range of a scrambler, small ship chat then goes something like this"FC:minm carrier over there,intys go tackle it.Reply: hmm what? are u on crash man.
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Lazuran
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: CelticWarrior
Option 2 Add a webber bonus on the carrier to range, webber bonuses are used on minm recon so its not gonna be something new, make that at lvl 4 trained the webber has the 20km range of a scrambler, small ship chat then goes something like this"FC:minm carrier over there,intys go tackle it.Reply: hmm what? are u on crash man.
Nice idea, but I doubt that anyone in a Nidhoggur would give up a medium slot for a webber (that's what support is for), since he needs a full rack of Cap Recharger II's to power dual reppers. The alternative is a weak tank, but who wants to bring a 1.2b ship to the battlefield without a decent tank ...
"The whole of NYC is not 1.0. Some back alley in the Bronx is deep 0.0, while right outside NYPD headquarters is 1.0." -- Slaaght Bana |

CelticWarrior
Lords Of Guile Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Lazuran
Originally by: CelticWarrior
Option 2 Add a webber bonus on the carrier to range, webber bonuses are used on minm recon so its not gonna be something new, make that at lvl 4 trained the webber has the 20km range of a scrambler, small ship chat then goes something like this"FC:minm carrier over there,intys go tackle it.Reply: hmm what? are u on crash man.
Nice idea, but I doubt that anyone in a Nidhoggur would give up a medium slot for a webber (that's what support is for), since he needs a full rack of Cap Recharger II's to power dual reppers. The alternative is a weak tank, but who wants to bring a 1.2b ship to the battlefield without a decent tank ...
aye true, if there gonna persist with the current bonus the cap needs increasing, its kinda crazy that the carrier with the smallest cap gets a bonus that uses ur cap up quicker.
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Baun
4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Lazuran
Originally by: CelticWarrior
Option 2 Add a webber bonus on the carrier to range, webber bonuses are used on minm recon so its not gonna be something new, make that at lvl 4 trained the webber has the 20km range of a scrambler, small ship chat then goes something like this"FC:minm carrier over there,intys go tackle it.Reply: hmm what? are u on crash man.
Nice idea, but I doubt that anyone in a Nidhoggur would give up a medium slot for a webber (that's what support is for), since he needs a full rack of Cap Recharger II's to power dual reppers. The alternative is a weak tank, but who wants to bring a 1.2b ship to the battlefield without a decent tank ...
There are other alternatives.
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Alan Bell
Gallente Shiva
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: CelticWarrior This carriers bonus really needs looking at, atm its no kind of a bonus at all, it just eats your cap up quicker for no great benefit and minm ships dont have the greatest of cap to begin with.
With the big hp increases that carriers seem to be getting in kali they are becoming more viable as a front line ship,caldari and amarr certainly are with there resist bonuses and the gall carrier with its 10% damage per lvlgall carrier with its 10% damage per lvl owns.I personally would like to see a tracking bonus on the minm fighters at say 10% per lvl.
With most ships in kali getting a hp increase some of the smaller boats will be flying around without any respect for the bigger boats and in particular carriers, usually goes something like this "nah nah fighters cant hit me u noob" etc. Now giving minm fighters a 10% tracking per lvl aint exactly gonna rip a new one to the real little boats but its a start.
Option 2 Add a webber bonus on the carrier to range, webber bonuses are used on minm recon so its not gonna be something new, make that at lvl 4 trained the webber has the 20km range of a scrambler, small ship chat then goes something like this"FC:minm carrier over there,intys go tackle it.Reply: hmm what? are u on crash man.
um.. correct me if im wrong, but my thantos says 5% damage bonus per level http://coldfusion.online-guild.com |

CelticWarrior
Lords Of Guile Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Alan Bell
Originally by: CelticWarrior This carriers bonus really needs looking at, atm its no kind of a bonus at all, it just eats your cap up quicker for no great benefit and minm ships dont have the greatest of cap to begin with.
With the big hp increases that carriers seem to be getting in kali they are becoming more viable as a front line ship,caldari and amarr certainly are with there resist bonuses and the gall carrier with its 10% damage per lvlgall carrier with its 10% damage per lvl owns.I personally would like to see a tracking bonus on the minm fighters at say 10% per lvl.
With most ships in kali getting a hp increase some of the smaller boats will be flying around without any respect for the bigger boats and in particular carriers, usually goes something like this "nah nah fighters cant hit me u noob" etc. Now giving minm fighters a 10% tracking per lvl aint exactly gonna rip a new one to the real little boats but its a start.
Option 2 Add a webber bonus on the carrier to range, webber bonuses are used on minm recon so its not gonna be something new, make that at lvl 4 trained the webber has the 20km range of a scrambler, small ship chat then goes something like this"FC:minm carrier over there,intys go tackle it.Reply: hmm what? are u on crash man.
um.. correct me if im wrong, but my thantos says 5% damage bonus per level
from item database,Gallente Carrier Skill Bonuses: 10% bonus to deployed FightersĘ damage per level
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Drutort
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.25 20:17:00 -
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the point is i want to see these changes from now, and i dont see why they havent put them in... and let us talk how it works out and test it, not when it hits tq and we start to say how much it sucks... they have lots of issues right now with the hp boost, so i want this problem to be solved and its been out there for a long time, i expected to see the kali testing have this in already.
also dont forget fighters need like 100% hp boost and or a sig rad reduction cause they die way to fast, i wouldnt want to use my fighters on the frontline unless maybe you have good support and teamwork, but other then that any other gang or even BS heavy drones will eat those fighters and at 20M a pop thats not right.
tracking bonus is a nice idea, that or having 10% reduced in cap usage for the capital remotes
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