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Betti Betty
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2015.04.01 15:59:54 -
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I'm new to the church of bob, so may someone tell me why they leave their home and where will they go next probably? |

Nitris Denitrace
The Desolate Order Brave Collective
55
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Posted - 2015.04.01 16:05:42 -
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NOHO left cause they got so large as an alliance that nobody would fight them ever and when they did they would just steam roll with numbers. Essentially they were being what Brave is to Nullsec except with SP numbers higher then some PL members.
No content means no fun and the alliance universally decided they didn't want to be what NOHO had become. You can call it a failscade but it was more of a uniform decision to get back to actually getting fights.
That went from zero to bittervet real quick
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Sandslinger
NorCorp Enterprise No Holes Barred
180
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Posted - 2015.04.01 18:41:50 -
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Nitris Denitrace wrote:NOHO left cause they got so large as an alliance that nobody would fight them ever and when they did they would just steam roll with numbers. Essentially they were being what Brave is to Nullsec except with SP numbers higher then some PL members.
No content means no fun and the alliance universally decided they didn't want to be what NOHO had become. You can call it a failscade but it was more of a uniform decision to get back to actually getting fights.
Sorry, but that's not really true.
NoHo at the time it broke up ran on average much smaller gangs than it had early in the previous year. And main enemies were/are all running much larger gangs on average than Noho was. Each entity in the recent invasion had on their own larger numbers then NoHo's entire gang size. combined they by their own words topped 300. And average gang size for, for example hard knocks is much larger than noho's peak gang size in last 6 months.
TLC has started running 50 man gangs in home system, everyone is on average getting much larger which means in turn anyone wanting to go Bhaals deep needs to be larger again. The trend is ever upwards.
As for reasons, simple reason is you could say the leadership pretty much burned out, and general agreement was that the people in charge wanted to to do something new. What the entities wanted to do is so different than there was no reconciling it.
Nothing dramatic really. NoHo has been in wormholes longer then most of the remaining large entities has existed. Norcorp even longer. Sometimes people just want change. We came to wormholes because we wanted change originally.
Norcorp and Exceed has a relationship going back much further then wormholes has existed so you never know whats over the horizon. things could come full circle a third time :P |

Seraph Essael
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
1087
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Posted - 2015.04.01 18:45:24 -
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The corporations of No Holes Barred have decided to go their separate ways, I won't go into details as to why as it's not for me to say and even if it was, it's No Holes Barred's business (no offence meant).
Why did we leave Polaris? We left because Polaris is a rather large system and a lot of upkeep. As an alliance it wasn't an issue. However none of the corporations wanted to take on that mantle by ourselves, therefore leadership decided that it was for the best.
While I am sad to see Polaris go, I agree with the decision that was made.
Polaris is a fantastic system and I hope that it becomes someone's home rather than just a rental empire for whoever. It will be a lot of work for someone to take Polaris, considering the state of the system at the moment, but I really hope the system does not go to waste.
IXC, Norcorp and Aharm will be remaining in and around wormholes, I cannot talk for the other corporations that where part of NOHO, but IXC will be remaining as a wormhole corporation. We look forward to getting back into a hole soon and once again fighting with everyone (including our old alliance members).
I won't say anymore on the matter, but I figured I would state fact before the troll brigade comes along to fill your head with complete codswallop.
Edit: Damnit Sandslinger! Beaten to it! 
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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Betti Betty
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2015.04.01 19:08:38 -
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Thank you all for the reply and WH forum section needs more posts like yours. I wish you all have fun in whatever game play you choose :) |

Viggo Konstanin
Midnight Elites Failure To Communicate Alliance
4
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Posted - 2015.04.01 19:26:04 -
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Nitris Denitrace wrote:...what Brave is to Nullsec...
lol
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Keskora Yaari
POS Party Low-Class
27
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Posted - 2015.04.01 20:15:15 -
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Seraph Essael wrote:
IXC, Norcorp and Aharm will be remaining in and around wormholes, I cannot talk for the other corporations that where part of NOHO, but IXC will be remaining as a wormhole corporation. We look forward to getting back into a hole soon and once again fighting with everyone (including our old alliance members).
I am really glad to hear that some of the corps will stick around WH space. The more active pilots we have in w-space, the more our community will continue to grow and keep wormholes as fun and dangerous as ever. It does make me kind of sad to see such a (dare I say) notable entity go by the wayside. It's those big alliances that give w-space a reputation outside of those who live here. But in any case, I hope that the next chapter for you and the other corps is one filed with the tears of carebears and many sacrifices to Bob. |

Pissfat
Reverse Production
56
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Posted - 2015.04.01 20:36:46 -
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Sandslinger wrote:TLC has started running 50 man gangs in home system
To be fair they are their mining ops m8.
I am Winthorp, you may remember me from such films as....
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Jack Miton
Isogen 5
4349
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Posted - 2015.04.01 21:15:44 -
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Nitris Denitrace wrote:NOHO left cause they got so large as an alliance that nobody would fight them ever and when they did they would just steam roll with numbers. Essentially they were being what Brave is to Nullsec except with SP numbers higher then some PL members.
No content means no fun and the alliance universally decided they didn't want to be what NOHO had become. You can call it a failscade but it was more of a uniform decision to get back to actually getting fights. this is so hilariously incorrect that it made even me chuckle. Basically high class wspace sucks, and has sucked for a while now. NOHO were the last holders on to a sadly outmoded game play style and I assume it finally became more effort than it was worth for them.
PS: also, alliances don't work in wspace ;)
There is no Bob.
Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/
Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
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Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class
1123
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Posted - 2015.04.01 23:22:26 -
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EXIT- moved out of a c6 as well, I guess it's all c4 statics now for everyone! |
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Michael1995
Lazerhawks
174
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Posted - 2015.04.02 00:56:39 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:I guess it's all c4 statics now for everyone!
Blueballs and batphoning nullsec groups coming to your class space soon!
One does not simply buy their way into Goonswarm.
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Dark Armata
Exit-Strategy Exit Strategy..
148
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Posted - 2015.04.02 06:21:31 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:EXIT- moved out of a c6 as well, I guess it's all c4 statics now for everyone!
We are becoming a HS mission alliance.
We held a vote for fleet comp - rr, torpedo, armor drakes FTW.
Fitting is pretty tight, only max SP pilots may apply.
W-Space IS Best Space
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Peter Moonlight
Lazerhawks
143
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Posted - 2015.04.02 08:14:55 -
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NOHO became too big, and they were getting a lot of dead-mass, and also old members who were afk for long time or showing just for pings a lot of people were showing up just for sites etc.. And finally what happened is for a long time they have become so big that there was pretty much no one for them to PVP with inside wormhole space, and a lot of line members pushing PvE and nullsec activities and all that huge numbers combined with ping warriors and huuge lack of content due to blob and not shipping down for gudfites and lack of content creators led to NOHO dying. There is more reasons to why NOHO died but some reddit posts can explain that better (hint: "leadership")
I know a lot of this stuff from my time in NOHO, and that said NOHO has a bunch of great dudes which should definately stay in w-space even if their corps decide not to. Also, even if I'd like to see some of them playing with me, or against me in big groups like SSC/HK/LZHX it would be nice to even make a new group or join smaller group of dudes in C5 space, where most of PVP is. |

calaretu
Honestly We didnt know Unsettled.
282
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Posted - 2015.04.02 08:20:05 -
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Michael1995 wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote:I guess it's all c4 statics now for everyone! Blueballs and batphoning nullsec groups coming to your class space soon!
Batphoning nullsec groups is such c5. We batphone and blueball eachother instead.
~Bringer of happiness
http://collapsedbehind.blogspot.no/
.ORLY is recruiting
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G0hme
Hoover Inc. Pandemic Legion
287
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Posted - 2015.04.02 09:39:08 -
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Sandlinger! Hoover Inc. is recruiting!
Shook Eelm's hand at Fanfest 2012
Shook CCP Soundwave's hand at Fanfest 2013
Got NPC API removed from Wormhole Space.
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Ilaister
Absolutely Certain
170
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Posted - 2015.04.02 11:15:21 -
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-1 massive group that couldn't get fights + several small ones = win. Sad news but good news.
Hope they are all back in wspace soon in one form or another murdering people. |

Jack Miton
Isogen 5
4352
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Posted - 2015.04.02 12:06:54 -
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Ilaister wrote:-1 massive group that couldn't get fights + several small ones = win. Sad news but good news. Hope they are all back in wspace soon in one form or another murdering people. you dont really understand how things work, but that's ok.
There is no Bob.
Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/
Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
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Rek Seven
The Scope Gallente Federation
1969
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Posted - 2015.04.02 12:29:05 -
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Because nul sec is looking better everyday...?
+1
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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
943
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Posted - 2015.04.02 13:27:58 -
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Sandslinger wrote: TLC has started running 50 man gangs in home system, everyone is on average getting much larger which means in turn anyone wanting to go Bhaals deep needs to be larger again. The trend is ever upwards.
Smacktalk some years ago: *You suck, get good* Smacktalk these days: *You suck, get more numbers*
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Fehyd Rautha
Aperture Harmonics No Holes Barred
4
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Posted - 2015.04.02 15:51:55 -
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As others have said; it's not my place to make statements in the alliance's name but regardless of what IXC, NorCorp and AHARM decide to do; I look forward to seeing you all in space. Now that all assets have been moved we can get focused on our future projects. :D |
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Ilaister
Absolutely Certain
172
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Posted - 2015.04.15 11:18:52 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Ilaister wrote:-1 massive group that couldn't get fights + several small ones = win. Sad news but good news. Hope they are all back in wspace soon in one form or another murdering people. you dont really understand how things work, but that's ok.
Enlighten me. |

Aladar Dangerface
Absolutely Certain
152
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Posted - 2015.04.15 11:27:43 -
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Ilaister wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Ilaister wrote:-1 massive group that couldn't get fights + several small ones = win. Sad news but good news. Hope they are all back in wspace soon in one form or another murdering people. you dont really understand how things work, but that's ok. Enlighten me. Humans, dolphins and chimpanzees are the only species that have sex for fun.
You have now been enlightened, enjoy.
(ps i may have made this up/dreamt it/read it in some **** magazine)
I don't need twitter.
I'm already following you.
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Jack Miton
Isogen 5
4366
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Posted - 2015.04.15 12:50:18 -
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Aladar Dangerface wrote:Ilaister wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Ilaister wrote:-1 massive group that couldn't get fights + several small ones = win. Sad news but good news. Hope they are all back in wspace soon in one form or another murdering people. you dont really understand how things work, but that's ok. Enlighten me. Humans, dolphins and chimpanzees are the only species that have sex for fun. You have now been enlightened, enjoy. (ps i may have made this up/dreamt it/read it in some **** magazine) it's a common myth, not your fault
There is no Bob.
Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/
Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
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Aladar Dangerface
Absolutely Certain
152
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Posted - 2015.04.15 13:45:53 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Aladar Dangerface wrote:Ilaister wrote:Jack Miton wrote:Ilaister wrote:-1 massive group that couldn't get fights + several small ones = win. Sad news but good news. Hope they are all back in wspace soon in one form or another murdering people. you dont really understand how things work, but that's ok. Enlighten me. Humans, dolphins and chimpanzees are the only species that have sex for fun. You have now been enlightened, enjoy. (ps i may have made this up/dreamt it/read it in some **** magazine) it's a common myth, not your fault You've been fairly condescending in your last two posts in this thread, but its ok, it's not your fault, there there dear..........there there.
I don't need twitter.
I'm already following you.
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GizzyBoy
Aperture Harmonics K162
105
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:51:34 -
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Aladar Dangerface wrote: You've been fairly condescending in your last two posts in this thread, but its ok, it's not your fault, there there dear..........there there.
You must be new to the WH forums. We dont expect anything less from our good friend Jack. |

Ilaister
Absolutely Certain
172
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:50:41 -
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GizzyBoy wrote:You must be new to the WH forums. We dont expect anything less from our good friend Jack.
It doesn't suit him.
The disaffected but knowledgeable bittervet thing he has going on on DTP I prefer.
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Iyokus Patrouette
Sudden Buggery Prolapse.
418
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Posted - 2015.04.16 06:07:06 -
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Ilaister wrote:GizzyBoy wrote:You must be new to the WH forums. We dont expect anything less from our good friend Jack. It doesn't suit him. The disaffected but knowledgeable bittervet thing he has going on on DTP I prefer.
are you absolutely certain about that?
---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----
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Ilaister
Absolutely Certain
172
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Posted - 2015.04.16 07:11:08 -
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Iyokus Patrouette wrote:are you absolutely certain about that?
... SORTA.
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TurboX3
Hax. Wrecked.
74
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Posted - 2015.04.17 13:07:18 -
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No wonder not only Noho's leaving wormhole space... when it's a massive clusterfuck of BFF's what's the point.... HK batphone LZR and QEX or whatever!
No Trolling Please
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Skyleth Bergen
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
9
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Posted - 2015.04.20 22:48:21 -
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If it's true that the reason they sort of broke up is that fights are too +1-ey, could this be solved by placing a ship limit in addition to the mass limit on wormholes? If people actually are not having as much fun anymore, maybe wormhole space needs to get slightly more restrictive numbers-wise. I might be biased/naive because we don't have the numbers to survive a real tech 3 brawl yet. |
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Casirio
Doughboys Snuffed Out
566
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:54:19 -
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No Holes Barred outlived many of the best wormhole alliances like:
Talocan United Transmission Lost Bitten. Exhale. (when they were big) Polarized. Disavowed. Blood Union K162 (which is back now i guess) Lead Farmers UNKNOWN
probably a bunch of others i cant think of
To all the scrubs who think they know who NOHO was, they go waaay back. Back further than even I know when I was in Exhale. They lasted longer than so many other big and great alliances, and had more balls than most today.
Wish you guys all the best. What a great run. <3 |

Seraph Essael
eXceed Inc.
1095
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Posted - 2015.04.21 21:46:38 -
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The final flight of No Holes Barred. 19APR2015
No big fights. No capital ship mutilation. But good fun. It was a blast and I haven't seen a Drake evaporate quite so quick in a long time...
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
1974
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Posted - 2015.04.22 11:37:56 -
[33] - Quote
I'm interested to see if CCP finally make the wormhole sovereignty upgrade worthwhile/practical for small groups. If they do i see a lot of bigger/older groups making the move to null and leaving wormhole space for the farmers and noobs to populate.
+1
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Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
262
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Posted - 2015.04.22 14:03:58 -
[34] - Quote
Rek Seven wrote:I'm interested to see if CCP finally make the wormhole sovereignty upgrade worthwhile/practical for small groups. If they do i see a lot of bigger/older groups making the move to null and leaving wormhole space for the farmers and noobs to populate.
Iirc CCP has no plans to change that ... I think there was something about it in the last minutes. W-Space access from null is pretty good already anyway thanks to X702/K346 and N432/K142. And now there is Thera ... |

ShootThatDonkeyEeyore
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.04.23 09:29:31 -
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Yet again the Blue doughnut of wormhole space -> http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=28576033
Thanks Lazorhawks and Hard Knocks for killing w-space.. |

Ab'del Abu
Atlantis Ascendant
263
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Posted - 2015.04.23 10:19:53 -
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ShootThatDonkeyEeyore wrote:
Imho blobbing up to kill large PvE fleets is absolutely legit There needs to be risk for the large groups too and all ... |

Xtrah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
272
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Posted - 2015.04.23 19:40:35 -
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ShootThatDonkeyEeyore wrote:
I don't like HK and LZHX ganging up on people instead of doing stuff like this on their own, but TDSIN not doing anything about it, not taking any precautions to getting ganked again after the first time... this one was deserved. Doesn't take much to have a few carriers on standby, warp your dreads to different spots and have some ECCM on your webbers. It'd turn the turkey shoot around, done right.
Also, post with your main.
YouTube channel
Latest video: Bhaals Deep against TLC (dread/triage)
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Sojourn
Hedion University Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2015.04.24 01:02:58 -
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Xtrah wrote:ShootThatDonkeyEeyore wrote: I don't like HK and LZHX ganging up on people instead of doing stuff like this on their own, but TDSIN not doing anything about it, not taking any precautions to getting ganked again after the first time... this one was deserved. Doesn't take much to have a few carriers on standby, warp your dreads to different spots and have some ECCM on your webbers. It'd turn the turkey shoot around, done right. Also, post with your main. Hahahahahaha you burn No Holes Barred to the ground, join PL and then complain that Hard Knocks and Lazerhawks.
Stay the hell in Nullsec where you belong scrublord. |

GizzyBoy
Aperture Harmonics K162
106
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Posted - 2015.04.24 07:24:34 -
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Nobody burnt anything to the ground, C6 space has emptied out, Old groups that we enjoyed engaging where over time evicted by massive gangs of people whom live in c5 space, because getting to a specific c6 is comparatively easier than getting to specific c5, those groups also suffered from lack of engage able targets.
the latest Pos and population numbers from ccp Quant back this up. c5 numbers maybe climbing, but with out some corresponding increase in numbers of pvp kills. im going to sadly assume its people more interested in farming.
Other groups where evicted in c6 space only to be replaced with 1/2-1 hour krabbing alt corps whom despite what people say really offer nothing valuable to the game content wise.
Those 10 people that joined PL did not crush NOHO, far from it, we spent many hours rolling to find nothing but the same groups, w-space and co, and this was the start of the end. there where no new groups stepping up to risk it in c6 space, and some people have become far to attached to there wh's to ever move or risk trying some where new.
But if you truly feel that 10 people leaving a group of over 100 left you with nothing to keep you occupied, I dont feel sad for you, You need to make your own content in this game, being in a group is fine, but if you dont go out and do things for your self, w-space is soo not for you.
Rather than be sad about the state of c6 space earlier this year we just started shooting w-space towers instead because why not, we can do WTF we want so that's what we did, and it was fun, I totally enjoyed it. we went as a group from dicking around for 2-3 hours grinding towers to at the end being able to reinforce them before we could even close all the incoming connections.
We created so many timers we had no real Idea which one we would even connect to when they came out. infact we didn't even care if we never connected to a target system again, because for another 10-20 mins we could put it back in reinforced. nor did we care if some other group finished the tower off.
The reality is c6 space in fact most of c5-c6 space has become stale and predictable, if you connect to ssc, lz expect the 2 of them or 3 or more groups to show up with ridiculous numbers, rather than risk trying it alone even tho most times each group has more than enough numbers to engage in there own right.
There's nothing more fun than engaging people and having no idea if you'll ever get away with it. sadly alot of people would rather never risk it unless they totally can do it with a 100% chance of not dying. How people can enjoy repeatedly never losing a single thing when they continue to brining obvious over powered fleets I dont know. Noho had to repeatedly stop recruiting to try to balance our numbers with the size of the possible engagements we might have got. Theres no group of people more acutely aware of how easy it is to smother what you love to death in this game.
Now I dont know why some people whom now reside in other groups are so bitter. I also dont get why people continue to tell us what we are or continue to insist on what we where supposed to be.
Had the best time in NOHO, many great people in this game & group. Fanfest did nothing but consolidate my thoughts and feelings on what c6 space is. Had great times drinking and hanging out with all of TDSIN (WABOO), Scot from TLC, and assay had the greatest times with my alliance bros. Im unsure what those other groups where up to, but very few even introduced them selves to us.
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ChaeDoc II
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
115
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Posted - 2015.04.24 07:40:03 -
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Casirio wrote:No Holes Barred outlived many of the best wormhole alliances like:
Talocan United Transmission Lost Brotherhood of Starbridge Narwhals Ate My Duck Bitten. Exhale. (when they were big) Polarized. Disavowed. Blood Union Red Coat Conspiracy K162 (which is back now i guess) Kill it With Fire UNKNOWN Verge of Collapse (the old verge)
probably a bunch of others i cant think of
To all the scrubs who think they know who NOHO was, they go waaay back. Back further than even I know when I was in Exhale. They lasted longer than so many other big and great alliances, and had more balls than most today. Can't even count the content they brought to whs.
Wish you guys all the best. What a great run. <3
You have AHARM there but not their arch enemy of the early days? I am disappoint. |
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Xtrah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
272
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Posted - 2015.04.24 08:13:18 -
[41] - Quote
Sojourn wrote:Xtrah wrote:ShootThatDonkeyEeyore wrote: I don't like HK and LZHX ganging up on people instead of doing stuff like this on their own, but TDSIN not doing anything about it, not taking any precautions to getting ganked again after the first time... this one was deserved. Doesn't take much to have a few carriers on standby, warp your dreads to different spots and have some ECCM on your webbers. It'd turn the turkey shoot around, done right. Also, post with your main. Hahahahahaha you burn No Holes Barred to the ground, join PL and then complain that Hard Knocks and Lazerhawks blob people. Stay the hell in Nullsec where you belong scrublord! People want to know why No Holes Barred broke apart and left Polaris? Half the Alliances leadership and older characters (including this halfwit above) made bullshit reasons to move all their **** out of the holes stating they were "taking a break from Eve" when actually they were on alts farming and circlejerking. Funny how that entire circlejerk group (around ten of them (ish)) is now in PL even though three quarters of them were supposedly on a break. The only thing they helped do was make sure NoHos members didn't accidentally roll into them carebearing it up in their C6 bearhole. On the few times they did get rolled into, NoHos members were told to stand down for 'reasons'.
So an alliance of 400 characters (I'd say 80 ish actual people), with ~20 alliance directors spread across all the corporations, died because we, a few FCs and friends, who, to quote; "only thing they helped do was make sure NoHos members didn't accidentally roll into them carebearing it up in their C6 bearhole", moved our **** out. Where three quarters of us wasn't active in the first place. Your argument contradicts itself.
I don't feel guilty at all, sorry. I did a last push within NOHO leadership to change to a leadership structure that didn't require 20 peoples input to make stuff happen. When that didn't go through, I announced my leave to leadership and took my **** out.
As for joining PL, it's a nice refresh with a change of scenery. And active FCs are leading the show, not a group of paper pushers. I'm hoping it lasts as high class w-space is, in my opinion, pretty stagnant at the moment.
YouTube channel
Latest video: Bhaals Deep against TLC (dread/triage)
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Peter Moonlight
Lazerhawks
149
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:31:13 -
[42] - Quote
GizzyBoy wrote:Nobody burnt anything to the ground, C6 space has emptied out, Old groups that we enjoyed engaging where over time evicted by massive gangs of people whom live in c5 space, because getting to a specific c6 is comparatively easier than getting to specific c5, those groups also suffered from lack of engage able targets.
the latest Pos and population numbers from ccp Quant back this up. c5 numbers maybe climbing, but with out some corresponding increase in numbers of pvp kills. im going to sadly assume its people more interested in farming.
Other groups where evicted in c6 space only to be replaced with 1/2-1 hour krabbing alt corps whom despite what people say really offer nothing valuable to the game content wise.
Those 10 people that joined PL did not crush NOHO, far from it, we spent many hours rolling to find nothing but the same groups, w-space and co, and this was the start of the end. there where no new groups stepping up to risk it in c6 space, and some people have become far to attached to there wh's to ever move or risk trying some where new.
But if you truly feel that 10 people leaving a group of over 100 left you with nothing to keep you occupied, I dont feel sad for you, You need to make your own content in this game, being in a group is fine, but if you dont go out and do things for your self, w-space is soo not for you.
Rather than be sad about the state of c6 space earlier this year we just started shooting w-space towers instead because why not, we can do WTF we want so that's what we did, and it was fun, I totally enjoyed it. we went as a group from dicking around for 2-3 hours grinding towers to at the end being able to reinforce them before we could even close all the incoming connections.
We created so many timers we had no real Idea which one we would even connect to when they came out. infact we didn't even care if we never connected to a target system again, because for another 10-20 mins we could put it back in reinforced. nor did we care if some other group finished the tower off.
The reality is c6 space in fact most of c5-c6 space has become stale and predictable, if you connect to ssc, lz expect the 2 of them or 3 or more groups to show up with ridiculous numbers, rather than risk trying it alone even tho most times each group has more than enough numbers to engage in there own right.
There's nothing more fun than engaging people and having no idea if you'll ever get away with it. sadly alot of people would rather never risk it unless they totally can do it with a 100% chance of not dying. How people can enjoy repeatedly never losing a single thing when they continue to brining obvious over powered fleets I dont know. Noho had to repeatedly stop recruiting to try to balance our numbers with the size of the possible engagements we might have got. Theres no group of people more acutely aware of how easy it is to smother what you love to death in this game.
Now I dont know why some people whom now reside in other groups are so bitter. I also dont get why people continue to tell us what we are or continue to insist on what we where supposed to be.
Had the best time in NOHO, many great people in this game & group. Fanfest did nothing but consolidate my thoughts and feelings on what c6 space is. Had great times drinking and hanging out with all of TDSIN (WABOO), Scot from TLC, and assay had the greatest times with my alliance bros. Im unsure what those other groups where up to, but very few even introduced them selves to us.
I don't know which "old groups" you are talking about and who was evicted, only real group I can think of that was evicted was RCC, and RCC never ever gave fights. And also, in 99% of cases none of the C6 groups would ever come to fight noho 1v1, exit strategy did like 2 times, other then that, NEVER, except that time TDSIN came to fight, and then teamed up with SSC. If there was ever any engagement it was hunting their pve fleets or closing ships and hoping that they escalate or try to save it, so you are wrong. Please make a list of all those "PVP" groups that were evicted from C6 space that you talk of, because I can't think of any.
Shooting POS'es is okay as long as it can escalate into PVP, which you knew it never could, so it was pos spinning, or afking on POS in Ishtars. Also did you know that at least 2 of the holes you reinforced, because "carebears" you actually reinforced, so some of your friendly directors and their friends can move in to farm? I know you didn't. NOHO few months ago, specially after summer had 40-65 man fleets on a regular evening (without people multiboxing), usually it was like 10 people, of which 7 is afk, and 3 not doing anything, and then when PING, 45 people in channel. And still you "stopped recruiting" but still managed to get several new members every week..
LZHX never accepted batphone for pure pvp, but for PVE fleets, which is fine and normal. Also it is ridiculous how you cry about how C5 groups batphone each other for pvp (which is not true), when you own alliance could get same or more numbers then 2-3 of those corps combined at some point, stop the BS please. Should we talk about how several NOHO members found traces of directors stealing isk from tax on homesites..
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Terraunit
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.04.24 13:20:15 -
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Please bring forth the evidence about taxstealing directors. As the leader of the circlejerk i will personally make sure they will get the punishment they deserve (negative on acounting and denied acces to any and all farming systems).
As the mastermind of evicting noho, i also wanted to confess to killing brave before joining betterlegion.
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Tak Warren
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.04.24 13:47:29 -
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If you ask me: I think it's a bit of an overstatement that NoHo directors would be able to steal from taxes. (Yes, you probably wouldn't ask me.)
Also, HI PETER HOW ARE YOU?! STILL SCANNING LOTS? REMEMBER THE SONG I USED TO SING WHEN I WAS ALONE, SCANNING DIRTY, DIRTY CHAINS?
I still love you. No matter what the (other?) so called traitors say about you.
So much, I'll sing it for you <3
Quote:When I was young I never needed anyone And making love was just for fun Those days are gone Livin` alone I think of all the friends I`ve known When I dial the telephone Nobody`s home
All by myself Don`t wanna be All by myself Anymore
Hard to be sure Sometimes I feel so insecure And loves so distant and obscure Remains the cure
All by myself Don`t wanna be All by myself Anymore All by myself Don`t wanna live All by myself Anymore
When I was young I never needed anyone Making love was just for fun Those days are gone
All by myself Don`t wanna be All by myself Anymore All by myself Don`t wanna live Oh Don`t wanna live By myself, by myself Anymore By myself Anymore Oh All by myself Don`t wanna live I never, never, never Needed anyone
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Jeanne DuArc
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Posted - 2015.04.24 13:56:15 -
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Terraunit wrote: PS: xtrah is a buttbutt
Pretty much the only accurate thing in this whole thread.
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Seraph Essael
eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:47:13 -
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I'm not even sure what is going on in this thread any more 
Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
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