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Tasty Burger
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Posted - 2006.10.27 21:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Grey Area
Originally by: Christopher Dalran
I like to use sensor dampers on caldari missile boats, it is actually the only module in the game that can complety prevent them from firing (you can fire FOF missiles while jammed with ECM but FOF cannot target anything past your own targeting range).
If you have a Webbifier drone in your bay you can use that to make sure they will NEVER be able to close range to get a lock (unless your a flying brick), just recall it when they lock it and send it back when it moves out of their locking range.
Christopher...I want to quote your post in BOLD, ITALIC, UNDERLINED because it makes so much sense. Here is a player who has used tools within the game to find a solution to a problem...how to beat a Raven. He could have just run whinging like a girl to the forums, but instead, he has used his BRAIN.
CHRISTOPHER DALRAN, I salute you. (but I NEVER want to meet you in combat...I fly a Raven)...
You need 3 sensor damps to get a raven below 20km disruptor range. You need one tracking disruptor to make a turret ship useless.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2006.10.27 22:06:00 -
[92]
I think every race, weapon and ship should be exactly the same. Makes sense doesn't it?
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Laboratus
Gallente
BGG
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.27 22:08:00 -
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I fully support this.
Or even better,
Increase flight time by 5x
Slow speed by 5x
increase damage by 5x
slow rof by 2x
make missiles targetable.
Mind control and tin hats |
LordZer00
Caldari
Dark Centuri Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.27 22:25:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Tasty Burger
Originally by: susan ivonava
dont tracking disruptors gimp either A) cap recharge, B) tank, C) Speed, prolly missed a few others but tbh, sick of these whine threads
Just goes to show you how much caldari ecm *****s know about the game besides ECM and missiles.
Yes, because the comment from that one person signifies the knowledge of every other player that flies a Caldari ship right? Oh, wait, no, but by your logic I guess that just goes to show you how much Minmatar Artie\AC *****s know about real life... See? It works both ways....
Please, try not to be such a complete idjit.
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Monarana
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Posted - 2006.10.28 11:07:00 -
[95]
Personlly I think missle disrupters should replace ecm's current function. |
Grey Area
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.28 19:56:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Tasty Burger
You need 3 sensor damps to get a raven below 20km disruptor range. You need one tracking disruptor to make a turret ship useless.
Then for ****'s sake WHY aren't you petitioning to nerf tracking disrupters?
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.28 19:58:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Grey Area
Originally by: Tasty Burger
You need 3 sensor damps to get a raven below 20km disruptor range. You need one tracking disruptor to make a turret ship useless.
Then for ****'s sake WHY aren't you petitioning to nerf tracking disrupters?
So you think tracking disruptors should be removed from game?
Remove citadel torpedo flashes! |
goodby4u
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Posted - 2006.10.28 21:13:00 -
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/signed
But i dont think missiles are an iwin button,their much more affective at hitting anything without a web although and are in general easier to use,thats the strong points of missiles and although i think their should be a way to counter them it should be by a very little amount so people cant just stack on tracking and missile disrupts and be able to stop anything from hitting him hard besides drone users.
That being said we still need a counter.
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Grey Area
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.28 21:23:00 -
[99]
Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Grey Area
Originally by: Tasty Burger
You need 3 sensor damps to get a raven below 20km disruptor range. You need one tracking disruptor to make a turret ship useless.
Then for ****'s sake WHY aren't you petitioning to nerf tracking disrupters?
So you think tracking disruptors should be removed from game?
Did I SAY that? Since when did "NERF" equal "REMOVE"? If this was just an attempt to wind me up, then congratulations you succeeded, but at the expense of making yourself look dumb in the process.
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goodby4u
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Posted - 2006.10.28 21:37:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Grey Area
Originally by: LUKEC
Originally by: Grey Area
Originally by: Tasty Burger
You need 3 sensor damps to get a raven below 20km disruptor range. You need one tracking disruptor to make a turret ship useless.
Then for ****'s sake WHY aren't you petitioning to nerf tracking disrupters?
So you think tracking disruptors should be removed from game?
Did I SAY that? Since when did "NERF" equal "REMOVE"? If this was just an attempt to wind me up, then congratulations you succeeded, but at the expense of making yourself look dumb in the process.
But sensor dampeners work with every ship(besides titans and such)tracking disrupts work only with turret boats,because they are focused they are powerful with that one thing their good at.
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.10.28 21:41:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Tasty Burger
Edited by: Tasty Burger on 24/10/2006 23:32:20
Now that we can't jam caldari boats anymore because ECM sucks on non-caldari boats, we need something to stop the missile boats from being invulnerable.
Sensor damps?
Originally by: kieron
The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Tasty Burger
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Posted - 2006.10.28 22:24:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Grey Area
Originally by: Tasty Burger
You need 3 sensor damps to get a raven below 20km disruptor range. You need one tracking disruptor to make a turret ship useless.
Then for ****'s sake WHY aren't you petitioning to nerf tracking disrupters?
Because that is ridiculous? Im fine with tracking disruptors, im not fine with missiles not having a counter.
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Tasty Burger
Edited by: Tasty Burger on 24/10/2006 23:32:20
Now that we can't jam caldari boats anymore because ECM sucks on non-caldari boats, we need something to stop the missile boats from being invulnerable.
Sensor damps?
As I said... you need 3 sensor damps to get a raven below 20km, and thats if it has no sensor boosters. Remember that warp disruptors only go to 20km. If a raven can still lock and fire perfectly fine below 20km, well... you arent gonna be scrambling it are ya?
Tracking disruptors work on turrets at all ranges with just one module. Long range? Optimal HALVED. Short range? You can't hit squat. One module. Dampeners are pointless when you intend to kill your target, not chase him away. I can't stress it enough, damps are pointless at close range, which is EXACTLY where you need to be to warp scramble something.
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James Cathin
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Posted - 2006.10.29 00:13:00 -
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Why not anti missile guns in high slots?
How it would work:
- We would not be able to use them to strike another ship.
- The guns automaticaly target incoming missiles, they will be automatic wich means player has no control over them, they should use high slots, and have a chance of hitting missiles, the faster the missile is the less chance it has to take it down, and also bigger missiles need more shots to be taken down. I know its almost the same as defender missiles, the diference is in the ammo, it should use some crazy ammo like flares or something like that so it would break the missile guidance for a couple seconds, the higher the skill is the more time the flare lasts. Should work like a disruptor for missiles.
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Grey Area
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.29 14:15:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Tasty Burger
Because that is ridiculous? Im fine with tracking disruptors, im not fine with missiles not having a counter.
Missiles DO have a counter. It's called defenders, and whilst I admit it is nowhere near as effective as a turret disrupter, it IS an existing counter.
Either petition to fix defenders, or to nerf turret disrupters back to where it's about equivalent to a defender rocket launcher.
But...there's the problem...you'll be back here in a day complaining that the disrupter is too effective and the defender is not effective enough. If even ONE missile hits you when you have a defender active, you will complain.
And, even if you accept balance, I won't...because you have tracking computers that can modify the effect of a tracking disrupter...what module will we get to modify the effect of a defender?
So all you do is swap one argument for another. Same time, same channel, see you next week.
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Araxmas
Caldari
Imperial Space Corporation
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Posted - 2006.10.29 14:24:00 -
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Why not do what we do, use a recon ship to ecm the raven.
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