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Lutorian
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Posted - 2006.10.25 03:06:00 -
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I do not know much about cloaking devices. I was wondering if by having one, and someone attacks you, will engaging your cloaking device save you each time providing you cloak before they destroy your structure? Thanks.
Lutorian.
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Fuujin
HDY Research Labs
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Posted - 2006.10.25 03:09:00 -
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You can not cloak when someone has or is targetting you.
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Andicuri Vas
Gallente
Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2006.10.25 03:12:00 -
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Ask the guy that blew up my Arazu, if my Covert Ops Cloaking Device II is keeping him alive. 
/Resentment off
You cannot cloak while targeted.
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Rongar Maximus
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Posted - 2006.10.25 03:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Fuujin
You can not cloak when someone has or is targetting you.
If they have you locked you cannot cloak, IIRC. If they are targeting, i.e. flashing yellow in the overview, you can cloak to get away. But if you have a cloaking device and they can target you, you are doing something wrong. There is nothing that gets your blood pumping like flying by two apocs camping a gate that are piloted by folks that have an active war dec against you!
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Haffrage
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.25 03:32:00 -
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If somebody if flashing yellow OR red and you have a cloak, you cannot cloak. You can cloak while you're holding a lock. If anything comes within 2KM of you you are decloaked. If nobody is locking you and nothing is within 2KM of you, then you can cloak.
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Lutorian
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Posted - 2006.10.25 03:38:00 -
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Thank you. that clears a lot of things up for me. made me reconsider some things.
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.10.25 03:39:00 -
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no
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Lutorian
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Posted - 2006.10.25 03:40:00 -
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I dont suppose you can use tractor beams while cloaked can you? 
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Taedrin
Gallente
Mercatoris Technologies
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Posted - 2006.10.25 03:57:00 -
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In a word...
no
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chromer one
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.25 05:34:00 -
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can i cloak inside station?
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Kanuo Ashkeron
Eve Defence Force
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 06:06:00 -
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Flashing yellow means, the other ship has already locked you, but is not shooting at you (or using some ew on you). When red, it is shooting at you (or using ew).
Kanuo
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Joskken Inx
J.H.E.N.R
Pure.
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:13:00 -
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Ask Jigga Sugs
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Taram Caldar
Caldari
Acheron Vanguard Armada
The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.10.25 10:23:00 -
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You can cloak right up till they lock you
If you cloak before they finish locking they will lose you as a target.
So, in short:
If you are quick on the 'cloak' button, yes it will keep you from dying.... alot
However: Don't put a cloak on a ship you regularly hunt in because if ANYTHING has you locked you can't cloak. So you basically have a non-combat oriented high slot mod tied up on a ship that, odds are, won't be able to cloak when it needs to because some silly npc pirate has you locked.
Cloaks are for recon/covops... NOT for ratting. Not for mining either if you plan to fight the npc rats that pop now and then either.
Another question you asked:
"Can you cloak while using a tractor beam?"
Yes, but it deactivates the tractor beam as soon as you cloak. You cannot activate the tractor beam while cloaked.
So, yes, you can turn it on while you are using a tractor beam, or a mining laser, or even while shooting your guns. But the instant you hit cloak you unlock all your targets and your weapons/mining lasers/tractor beams turn off.
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.25 10:32:00 -
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"Will having a Cloaking Device always save you from being killed?"
If you fit your cloak to the f1 key and hit it as soon as you go to warp/move after jumping then yes about 99% of the time you will not be locked and killed.. 'Instalockers' with only cov ops enabled in the overview reduce that percentage but not by too much if you pay attention and focus..
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Taram Caldar
Caldari
Acheron Vanguard Armada
The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.10.25 11:07:00 -
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Edited by: Taram Caldar on 25/10/2006 11:07:26
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
"Will having a Cloaking Device always save you from being killed?"
If you fit your cloak to the f1 key and hit it as soon as you go to warp/move after jumping then yes about 99% of the time you will not be locked and killed.. 'Instalockers' with only cov ops enabled in the overview reduce that percentage but not by too much if you pay attention and focus..
Can't cloak while warp drive is active... (Unless you're in covops w/covops cloak)
Best to manually align and quickly hit the cloak while you align then de-cloak just as you hit the warp button. (Yes, I have a ghetto-cloaker I sometimes use for recon)
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.25 11:15:00 -
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Well I assumed he meant cov ops and the regular cloaks are only good for ambusing after a recon has them tackled anyways..
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Areconus
Caldari
Cereal Killerz
Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.10.25 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Haffrage
If somebody if flashing yellow OR red and you have a cloak, you cannot cloak. You can cloak while you're holding a lock. If anything comes within 2KM of you you are decloaked. If nobody is locking you and nothing is within 2KM of you, then you can cloak.
No, not necessarily. If they are blinking yellow, that could mean they are still locking you, because there is no color change to differentiate between "acquiring lock", and "lock acquired"
Gloria Stitz-
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Kanuo Ashkeron
Eve Defence Force
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.26 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Areconus
No, not necessarily. If they are blinking yellow, that could mean they are still locking you, because there is no color change to differentiate between "acquiring lock", and "lock acquired"
You donŠt see someone locking you.
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SadisticSavior
Caldari
Edenists
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Posted - 2006.10.26 19:44:00 -
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I am really interested in this topic too. Although I have been playing EVE since beta, I havnt been playing continuously. So I am the equivilent of an intermediate experienced player.
What about passive targeting or FoF missiles? How do they affect you while cloaking?
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Reagen Aklin
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Posted - 2006.10.26 19:51:00 -
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I've recently started training into covert ops as well. I just was hoping to get one thing clarified.
It's been said that when you get within 2.5 (or is it 2) km's from someone they can see you. Does that mean that as soon as you move within that range you immediately uncloak? So everyone can see you?
I was hoping to use a covert ops ship to run past the ever persistent gate camps leading into empire. However, if I get within 2km's of a gate camp and get detected then there is no point in that?
For the record, I purchased a Covert Ops Cloaking Device II to use on a Manticore. I have another couple of days until the required Cloaking IV skill is leveled up. Does this mean I won't be able to use my Manticore to run past gate camps?
Thanks.
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Laocoon
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.10.26 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Andicuri Vas
Ask the guy that blew up my Arazu, if my Covert Ops Cloaking Device II is keeping him alive.
lmfao 
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Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.10.26 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Reagen Aklin
I've recently started training into covert ops as well. I just was hoping to get one thing clarified.
It's been said that when you get within 2.5 (or is it 2) km's from someone they can see you. Does that mean that as soon as you move within that range you immediately uncloak? So everyone can see you?
I was hoping to use a covert ops ship to run past the ever persistent gate camps leading into empire. However, if I get within 2km's of a gate camp and get detected then there is no point in that?
For the record, I purchased a Covert Ops Cloaking Device II to use on a Manticore. I have another couple of days until the required Cloaking IV skill is leveled up. Does this mean I won't be able to use my Manticore to run past gate camps?
Thanks.
If you get within 2.5 km of another object (even a floating corpse) you will get decloaked for all to see you.
Cov ops cloak II's cannot be fitted to a stealth bomber (only the two "lower" ones can be fitted)
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CodeName SPARTAN
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Posted - 2006.10.26 20:16:00 -
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wait a minute so if u click while they are locking on to u, u cant cloak? ????? 
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DubanFP
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.26 20:54:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 26/10/2006 20:56:35
think of it this way, if you get close enough to a cargo container to steal from it, it'll turn your cloak off. You can cloak if they are locking on to you, but once they have a lock on you you can't cloak. also if you cloak while your missiles are en' route your missiles will do no damage when they do arrive.
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SadisticSavior
Caldari
Edenists
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Posted - 2006.10.26 21:02:00 -
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So if you are de-cloaked by getting too close to an object, can you immediately re-cloak as long as you are 2.5km or farther away from it? Is there a delay?
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Khemul Zula
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2006.10.26 21:31:00 -
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There is a delay before recloaking but it is only noticable if you try to cloak the instant you decloak. Think it might be a few seconds...maybe five. I've only run into the recloak delay when I accidently turned off the cloak and try desperately to turn it back on. 
The sad thing here is how much bad/confusing information is getting dropped in. Those who don't use cloaks stop posting 
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Mjr Pwnage
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Posted - 2006.10.26 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Haffrage
If somebody if flashing yellow OR red and you have a cloak, you cannot cloak. You can cloak while you're holding a lock. If anything comes within 2KM of you you are decloaked. If nobody is locking you and nothing is within 2KM of you, then you can cloak.
Don't forget about Mining Barge / Exhumer clouds
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Cmdr Sy
Off Balance Sheet Entity
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Posted - 2006.10.26 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Cmdr Sy on 26/10/2006 22:01:31
One thing sometimes forgotten.
If a fleet jumps into a system and aligns towards a gate, it will naturally spread out into a line as it moves, as different ships have different speeds. So if you want to scout a gate and think it's clever to warp from one to another with a longer than usual dewarp, you might just end up with an embarrasing killmail, because the fleet may have all distances covered. I recall one -V- fleet op when we got 3 covert ops kills in a couple of hours. One dewarped at 40km from gate straight into my Armageddon.
When scouting a gate, don't warp in from another gate. 
EDIT: Also, I have seen warp bubbles suck covert ops right into the bubble generator, forcing a decloak and an awkward moment. Not sure if that still happens.
Another edit: Particle clouds are another hazard - there is one by a station in Amarr which gave me an error message earlier today. It seems you cannot cloak within the whole cloud volume. Something to consider in deadspace too.
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Masakaa
Caldari
The Penguin Republic
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Posted - 2006.10.30 03:44:00 -
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Edited by: Masakaa on 30/10/2006 03:47:50
My cloak has saved me on numerous occaisions but I have lost 2 ships while trying to escape with a cloak. Nothing is 100% protection
BTW, have they fixed the cloaking bug yet that if you cloak while someone is locking you that it doesnt break the locking and you uncloak when their locking finishes?
Nm, Just found in patch notes for 4561
"Locking on a ship while it is cloaking no longer breaks the cloak cycle."
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