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Devasha Detrasha
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.03 06:31:33 -
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Hiya Caps, I'm about to start running missions for Amarr in my NM when training is completed next month and I was wondering if someone be kind enough to give me some recommendations on which corporation or faction to run level 4 missions with the best LP value/store. |

Devasha Detrasha
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.04 05:37:43 -
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Julius Priscus wrote:Devasha Detrasha wrote:Hiya Caps, I'm about to start running missions for Amarr in my NM when training is completed next month and I was wondering if someone be kind enough to give me some recommendations on which corporation or faction to run level 4 missions with the best LP value/store. Ducia foundry
The Questions I'm about to ask may seem ignorant to the vets so forgive my noobness kind sir. I did some googling on all the Amarr corporation LP stores and to be perfectly honest they all seem completely worthless with most items in the LP store costing way lesser in the market trading hubs. Is this a glitch or poor game mechanics? But the question I wanted to ask you kind sir is why Ducia Foundry? Do they offer more LP than others? Do they offer better lv 4 missions? Or do they offer specific items in their LP store that no other corporations offer?
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Devasha Detrasha
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.04 06:05:30 -
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Mr Mac wrote:OP, work for Ministry of Internal Order first to unlock the level 4 Amarr Epic Arc if you haven't. List of corps that have 2 security agents in same solar system: 1. Theology Council 2. Imperial Armanets 3. Ministry of Internal Order 4. Nurtura 5. Kador Family 6. Carthum Conglomerate 7. Ministry of War 8. Inherent Implants All corps listed above offer: navy apoc/harbringer/omen/slicer warfare mindlink smartbombs, armor repairers, nosferatu, energy destabilizers, turrets, heat sinks, DDA, omni.tracking armor hardeners/membranes/platings, cap.boosters, cap.rechargers frenq.crystals 1 and 3 offers: exploration hardwires and cap.recharger BPCs 2, 4, 6, and 8 offers: industry hardwires, TIL-1 Nexus Chip (BS class) armor hardener/membrane/plating BPCs 3 and 7 offers: navy apoc/harbringer/omen/slicer BPCs almost all hardwires except listed above SB/nosferatu/energy destabilizer BPCs You can decide which corp is best for you  If you looking for LP/ISK then SoE is best in these days. I'd work with Ministry of Internal Order.
Thank you Mr Mac this is very useful information. I didn't even know that Amarr had and epic mission arc. And yes I'm fully aware that SOE have the best LP point store value over anything else out there. The main reason I'm doing amarrian missions is to increase my standings with amarr so I can kill them later when doing SOE missions. But grinding missions is very boring for just that so since I'm doing Amarr missions I may as well do the ones that offer the best rewards. And sigh....by the looks of it they all suck majorly compared to SOE. Even so I thought there may be at least ONE that offers some goodies that a few know about so here I am begging for that inside info. I'd also be interested in knowing which corporations offer lv 4 missions like Vengeance and Blockade in abundance.
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Devasha Detrasha
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.05 00:53:49 -
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Julius Priscus wrote:Devasha Detrasha wrote:Julius Priscus wrote:Devasha Detrasha wrote:Hiya Caps, I'm about to start running missions for Amarr in my NM when training is completed next month and I was wondering if someone be kind enough to give me some recommendations on which corporation or faction to run level 4 missions with the best LP value/store. Ducia foundry The Questions I'm about to ask may seem ignorant to the vets so forgive my noobness kind sir. I did some googling on all the Amarr corporation LP stores and to be perfectly honest they all seem completely worthless with most items in the LP store costing way lesser in the market trading hubs. Is this a glitch or poor game mechanics? But the question I wanted to ask you kind sir is why Ducia Foundry? Do they offer more LP than others? Do they offer better lv 4 missions? Or do they offer specific items in their LP store that no other corporations offer? rather not say in public..
Then could you please message me the info in game or send me the info via eve mail. I won't share your secrets with anyone Julius if you tell me not to.
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Devasha Detrasha
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.05 00:59:24 -
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Hakaari Inkuran wrote:24th legion
Never heard of their recommendation for doing level 4 missions before and Google doesn't give me much info about them. Could you please enlighten me a bit about them?
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Devasha Detrasha
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.05 01:06:09 -
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Justin Zaine wrote:Quote:The main reason I'm doing amarrian missions is to increase my standings with amarr so I can kill them later when doing SOE missions. I would strongly advise against this. It may be necessary to run 2 or 3 faction kill missions against Amarr while getting your SOE standing up to 5.0, but once you've got over 5.5 standing with the SOE corp, just decline any additional faction kill missions. This will slightly lower your SOE corp standing, but does it at the benefit of keeping amarr standing and it doesn't usually lower the SOE standing enough to drop it past 5.0. Keep in mind that a lot of the SOE storyline missions also significantly hurt Amarr standing while significantly boosting Gallente standing. You'll want to keep as much of your amarr standing as possible so that when you do run these storyline missions, you won't go below 5.0 Amarr faction standing and therefore have to grind for Amarr level 4 standing again. If you run enough SOE storyline missions, you will eventually need to do more Amarr grinding. Before starting missions with SOE my Amarr standing was at nearly 7.0 and Gallente was at nearly -4.0. Over the last few weeks those standings have gone to about 5.4 and -0.20 respectively. This is all from storyline missions in the Apanake SOE hub.
That's not bad for 3 weeks of anti-Amarr missioning. I think it's worth it due to the fact that mist of deadspace and smash the supplier have some of the highest level 4 mission payout. And you can always go back to doing Amarr missions once your standings reach the 5.0 mark.
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Devasha Detrasha
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.05 05:58:45 -
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Justin Zaine wrote:Devasha Detrasha wrote:Justin Zaine wrote:Quote:The main reason I'm doing amarrian missions is to increase my standings with amarr so I can kill them later when doing SOE missions. I would strongly advise against this. It may be necessary to run 2 or 3 faction kill missions against Amarr while getting your SOE standing up to 5.0, but once you've got over 5.5 standing with the SOE corp, just decline any additional faction kill missions. This will slightly lower your SOE corp standing, but does it at the benefit of keeping amarr standing and it doesn't usually lower the SOE standing enough to drop it past 5.0. Keep in mind that a lot of the SOE storyline missions also significantly hurt Amarr standing while significantly boosting Gallente standing. You'll want to keep as much of your amarr standing as possible so that when you do run these storyline missions, you won't go below 5.0 Amarr faction standing and therefore have to grind for Amarr level 4 standing again. If you run enough SOE storyline missions, you will eventually need to do more Amarr grinding. Before starting missions with SOE my Amarr standing was at nearly 7.0 and Gallente was at nearly -4.0. Over the last few weeks those standings have gone to about 5.4 and -0.20 respectively. This is all from storyline missions in the Apanake SOE hub. That's not bad for 3 weeks of anti-Amarr missioning. I think it's worth it due to the fact that mist of deadspace and smash the supplier have some of the highest level 4 mission payout. And you can always go back to doing Amarr missions once your standings reach the 5.0 mark. That's my point, I haven't spent 3 weeks "anti-Amarr missioning," I've only been running the regular storyline missions that you get offered for every 16 regular missions. I've been turning down faction kill missions left and right, and my amarr standings have still dropped. If I ran every anti-amarr mission I was offered, I'd be reduced to level 1 amarr standing by the end of a night. Point being, save your valuable amarr standing for the SOE storyline missions and don't run any amarr-kill missions whatsoever.
Ahh, I see. I didn't know that i'd be this difficult to balance the Amarr/Gallentee/Minmatard standings. Turning down Mist of Deadspace and Smash the Supplier makes me cringe everytime. Geez I wish CCP change this. Why offer such great missions in the mission pool that kill standings with a major empire? Only storyline missions should hurt/increase standings and nothing else. If running incursions were better I'd just do that instead of this missioning crap.
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Devasha Detrasha
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.05 06:03:06 -
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Julius Priscus wrote:Devasha Detrasha wrote:Julius Priscus wrote:Devasha Detrasha wrote:Hiya Caps, I'm about to start running missions for Amarr in my NM when training is completed next month and I was wondering if someone be kind enough to give me some recommendations on which corporation or faction to run level 4 missions with the best LP value/store. Ducia foundry The Questions I'm about to ask may seem ignorant to the vets so forgive my noobness kind sir. I did some googling on all the Amarr corporation LP stores and to be perfectly honest they all seem completely worthless with most items in the LP store costing way lesser in the market trading hubs. Is this a glitch or poor game mechanics? But the question I wanted to ask you kind sir is why Ducia Foundry? Do they offer more LP than others? Do they offer better lv 4 missions? Or do they offer specific items in their LP store that no other corporations offer? bpc's... that's where you make your money/isk. buy things like Inavy bpc's and built and sell. if you farm up 360k lp a week. at present prices of around 80m isk per inavy heatsink x20 1.6b minus any tags you need to buy.
Hmm, I see. Then this might not work for me then since I don't have any manufacturing/invention alts. You really have to go out of your way to make any decent isk doing these missions huh? I wonder if incursions are better.
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Devasha Detrasha
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.05 23:40:56 -
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Hmm, I think I'll take Mr Mac's suggestions and run missions for ministry of order. Once my standings are high enough I'll go back to doing SOE missions and repeat this process while keeping my Amarr/Minmatard's standing at 5.0. To recall on the knowledge gained in forums both Mist of Deadspace and Smash the Supplier lowers my Amarr standings while increasing Minmatard's , SOE storyline missions increased Gallente standings and Ministry of internal orders storyline missions increases Amarr while lowering Minmartard's. I think I'll work with this for now and later figure out a way to kill Gallente since my standings with them would be the highest. |

Devasha Detrasha
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.06 20:54:23 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Donnachadh wrote: This is really simple, you must have 5.0 or higher standing towards an NPC (the corp not the agent or facaion) to run level 4 missions for an agent in that NPC.
Further proof is a new player in the corp this character is in. Corp wise we have 8.0 standing to Emperor Family yet he is required to grind to 5.0 before he can run lvl 4s solo.
Nope. If your faction, corp, or personal standing is 5.0 or higher and above -2.0, you can mission for that agent. (However, you can always do level 1 missions regardless of standings.) So if your faction is 5.0+ then you can run level 4s with any agent for that faction/empire (as long as you don't happen to have a personal or corp standing of < -2.0 with that agent) http://www.ao-universe.com/index.php?id=14&pid=386
Since declining missions results in a miniscule hit to your faction standings, having a high faction standings will let you decline multiple missions in a four hour block without losing access to that agent. You just need keep faction at 5.0+ and personal/corp above -2.0.
Yes I can use this. So I don't have to wait 4 more hours to decline another mission if the second is another drone/slave mission? And when declining say 3 missions within that 4 hour block, only my standings with that agent is effected and not my faction or corp standings?
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Devasha Detrasha
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.04.10 09:00:41 -
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Thank you all soo much, especially Mr Mac and Stoicfaux. I actually gained some insight from this forum even though I wasn't really expecting it since I heard that it's infested with trolls. But now I understand the importance of keeping the 4 major faction standings at 5.0 and above to be able to run any level 4 mission for any corp. I'll be using 2 NM's when I run these missions, but for missioning in general it seems I missed out on not training for the Domis as I hear they can run missions better than anything else out there due to their selectable damage dealing. Hmm I guess I'll have to use Tachyons with faction crystals to deal themal damage as it seems that most of the mission NPC's has a thermal resist hole and for Angels...I guess I'll have to roll out with 2 Gilas. Thank you again gents and fly safe and if you have more helpful advice please inform me. Oh and I'll be branching off into Incursions sometime as well so any helpful advice is welcome. |
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