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Kallie Rae
NorCorp Security AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2011.12.04 00:20:00 -
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So am wondering on what to do skill wise at the moment, and am wondering about either training for hybrids weapons, or train a whole new race(probably minmatar), i'll probably do both at one point, but am wondering about what to do first.
Am almost 100% caldari, with very little gunnery and a lot of missile skills. Looking for something a bit more pvp centered, and i know minmatar got a lot of good ships for that, the reason for hybrids is the naga, and that there is a few other ships from caldari that uses hybrids as well.
So am wondering if anyone here got any advice on the matter?
Thanks in advance =)
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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2011.12.04 02:05:00 -
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It takes about a week to train for every T1 turret (all level 3 skill, except level 5 Gunnery). That's what I did. I've since trained the support skills to 4.
Things only get long to train if you go for T2 turrets.
I'm currently trying-out Minmatar, and will go Amarr next, then Gallente. It doesn't take that long to get into even the battleships of each of them. Probably about a week or so per race. |
Seigfried Hakaari
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.04 06:35:00 -
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The vast majority of the Skill training time comes from the Support skills, rather than the Turret skills themselves. Even Medium Turret 5 is only a 12 Queue, it doesn't get long until you're looking at T2 Large turrets. |
Adonlude
ANZAC ACADEMY
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Posted - 2011.12.06 21:30:00 -
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Youre Caldari, train those hybrids! Im pure caldari and trained up to T2 large hybrids. I only have marginal missile skills with only T2 heavy missiles and rockets. I will be training up Minmatar next but not until I am maxed out on hybrids. They Rokh! |
Maximillian Dragonard
The Corpse Bucket Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
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Posted - 2011.12.08 20:51:00 -
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One word..... Naga....
For a Caldari ship, it's nimble and does solid dps using t2 large hybrids... I was pleasantly surprised by it. Reactivated in response to the change in direction.....-á |
Mnengli Noiliffe
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.09 05:54:00 -
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Seigfried Hakaari wrote:The vast majority of the Skill training time comes from the Support skills, rather than the Turret skills themselves. Even Medium Turret 5 is only a 12 Queue, it doesn't get long until you're looking at T2 Large turrets. in eve, lvl4 is not considered training. training guns is getting large guns spec 4 and all support 5 which takes a few months so it does mean something |
tEcHnOkRaT
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.09 06:23:00 -
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if ur caldari with perfect missile skills i asume ur mostly pve player. then dont waste ur time on training hybrids cuz u will hate urself for that and go stright to minmatar ships and projectile guns.
the best pve and pvp ship is still the machariel |
Mnengli Noiliffe
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.09 06:31:00 -
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for pve, hybrids are good if they are rails. however they can't solo. good as additional damager for BS rats in addition to Tengu which destroys everything smaller.
mach is overrated tbh. i can fly it but prefer tengu. also my alt is maelstrom t2 artillery and dps is pretty ****** so i am training t2 rails now with the intention of replacing maelstrom with naga or vindicator. i could try autocannons but having to fit a mwd or ab and actually approach any of the targets is a show stopper for me, my style is sit at the warp in point or slowly crawl to the next gate while destroying the whole mission which should mean i can warp the next gate by the time i arrive to it. |
Maximillian Dragonard
The Corpse Bucket Chubby Chuppers Chubba Chups
132
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Posted - 2011.12.12 21:52:00 -
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For pve, forget the Naga.. it doesn't have the tank for it. It does, however, make a nice sniper for pvp. Reactivated in response to the change in direction.....-á |
Hofbrau Dunkel
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.14 13:15:00 -
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Mnengli Noiliffe wrote: mach is overrated tbh. i can fly it but prefer tengu. also my alt is maelstrom t2 artillery and dps is pretty ******
You're doing it wrong.
Fit 800mm autocannons to that mission mach. In the lows put 4 faction gyros and 2 TE's and with falloff you can hit out to 60+ km. With an AB you're about as fast and as nimble as a tengu. The only drawback to the mach is the tank, but with light drones and standard T1 ammo you should be doing 900+ DPS.
I've used a tengu and a mach for mission running, both highly specialized chars, and I would pick the mach hands down as the ultimate blitzing machine. Its DPS output is simply higher than the tengu, and its range and speed means that you can pretty much hit anything within its targeting range, and can be able to close in the rats quickly.
I would choose a tengu for running 8/10 through 10/10 plexes solo, since its tank is insane, otherwise you'd need a repper with a mach.
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Lilith Stargesu
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.16 05:54:00 -
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Interesting. I had been wondering about this myself, since my caldari alt has a few mil sp to invest somewhere. |
Sam Marquez
Freelance Excavation and Resistance United Outworlders
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Posted - 2011.12.17 18:43:00 -
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Kallie Rae wrote:So am wondering on what to do skill wise at the moment, and am wondering about either training for hybrids weapons, or train a whole new race(probably minmatar), i'll probably do both at one point, but am wondering about what to do first.
Am almost 100% caldari, with very little gunnery and a lot of missile skills. Looking for something a bit more pvp centered, and i know minmatar got a lot of good ships for that, the reason for hybrids is the naga, and that there is a few other ships from caldari that uses hybrids as well.
So am wondering if anyone here got any advice on the matter?
Thanks in advance =)
Easy. You say you have very little gunnery skills. Start by training a few hybrid turret skills to 2 or 3 so you can actually use them (spend maybe 1-2 days) then work on training all the gunnery support skills to IV. Then when you do figure out which turrets you really want to use, you need only train those turret skills and have very few wasted gunnery skillpoints. |
Sokniw
Dead Pod Syndrome MORE.DPS
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Posted - 2011.12.18 14:38:00 -
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Kallie Rae wrote:So am wondering on what to do skill wise at the moment, and am wondering about either training for hybrids weapons, or train a whole new race(probably minmatar), i'll probably do both at one point, but am wondering about what to do first.
Am almost 100% caldari, with very little gunnery and a lot of missile skills. Looking for something a bit more pvp centered, and i know minmatar got a lot of good ships for that, the reason for hybrids is the naga, and that there is a few other ships from caldari that uses hybrids as well.
So am wondering if anyone here got any advice on the matter?
Thanks in advance =)
pick what race you want to go, minmitar - protectimes, amarr - lasers, gallente - blasters
now start to train the weapons, i wouldnt even worry about using them, just train. and keep earning isk in what your already doing. than in a month or 2 you will be ready to go. |
r0selan
Kasar Infinae Ares Protectiva
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Posted - 2011.12.19 12:32:00 -
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mining lasers! i heard their dps will be nicely buffed in next patch!
Srsly, one difference between missiles and turrets is that there are plenty skills that benefits the 3 types, so investment in those skills is never lost. In general, I would advise to decide first about a role, then a ship that fit that role, and then skill accordingly.
If you plan to go pvp, you might consider the "standard" frigate - battlecruiser route to get the taste of it. Drakes come to mind here with your skills. A more specialized role is the stealth bomber. Finally drones is a nice bonus, if not vital, for most pvp scenarios. |
Mike Whiite
Progressive State
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Posted - 2011.12.19 12:57:00 -
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I went Minmatar.
Started out with missiles, just like you after getting the general idea of EVE I tried PvP.
I't nice you can directly fly the caldari hybrid ships, but only a few are intresting.
When opening Minmater you get a whole line of new ships that are used for different tactics.
train hybrids and you can directly fly ships you won't use anyway up until the Falcon and the Naga.
those hybrids can wait till an other day
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Mallet Sceptera
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.24 00:32:00 -
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I made a similar choice recently and post-crucible i'm quite glad I stuck with caldari.
Currently the only hybrid weapon system that still performs like absolute crap with no redemption is medium rails and frankly, cruiser sized ships are where missiles shine the most, so I wasn't looking there anyhow.
The merlin, harpy, rokh, and naga are easily now some of my favorite ships. They have unexpected range with blasters, reasonable dps at insane range with rails, that sexy tank we caldari are known for, and now they can actually run their guns without capping out \o/. |
Ashleigh Evans
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.24 01:52:00 -
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missiles, missiles and more missiles. |
Mallet Sceptera
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.24 05:36:00 -
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Ashleigh Evans wrote:missiles, missiles and more missiles.
I admit that I left Citadel Cruise Missiles and Defender Missiles at IV...
Does that make me a bad caldari? |
Jendra Neutral
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.12.26 01:14:00 -
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90mil sp and still training missile crew, checking in.
Gunnery is for frog sympathizers. |
Halle Karnassus
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.27 23:53:00 -
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Jendra Neutral wrote:90mil sp and still training missile crew, checking in.
Gunnery is for frog sympathizers.
I really pity the caldari pilots who haven't experienced the post-hybrid-buff rokh and the naga yet. Train up those gunnery skills newb! |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
1521
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Posted - 2011.12.28 15:40:00 -
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I'm told the reworked Harpy looks quite promising also.
The Eagle is still terrible however. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Halle Karnassus
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.12.28 17:41:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:I'm told the reworked Harpy looks quite promising also.
The Eagle is still terrible however.
Medium hybrids in general still seem pretty weak, but my exposure thus far has been 90% with rails so I can't really speak toward med blaster effectiveness. |
Zack Evans
Underworld Protection Agency Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.12.29 00:04:00 -
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Missiles, Missiles, Missiles, Missiles, Missiles, Missiles, Missiles, Missiles, Missiles, and just for the record missiles. Hope this helped! |
Mootambe Mamadu
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.29 02:30:00 -
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My old main was 100+mil in caldari, mostly missiles with small rail spec on the side. I got completely annoyed with counting missile volleys in pve and getting stuck in nothing but drake fleets for pvp. Turned the corner early last year and trained up some amarr skills. Best decision I ever made, tbh. The sansha ships were a nice transition while I got my armor tanking skills up to snuff. |
Jalthus James
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.30 17:41:00 -
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Don't cross train, sell your character to me and buy one that is cross trained!
But seriously... characters without mindless cross training are fairly unique these days, now that everyone has trained for abaddons, hurricanes, drakes, and gallente caps. |
Pyrosomniac
9 Dimensions WUT ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2012.01.03 03:31:00 -
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I'm in the same jam as OP, but I'm Gallente training to Caldari.
Only problem is how far do I take my missiles? What's just not worth having? Defender Missiles is an obvious one but I'm thinking that I'd rather use missiles as a supplementary weapon, up close and personal.
Other than that, am I completely wrong in just focussing on unguided missiles? Or should I dabble? Experiment with what's best from others experience. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
2545
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Posted - 2012.01.03 21:16:00 -
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Halle Karnassus wrote:Malcanis wrote:I'm told the reworked Harpy looks quite promising also.
The Eagle is still terrible however. Medium hybrids in general still seem pretty weak, but my exposure thus far has been 90% with rails so I can't really speak toward med blaster effectiveness.
Rail Rokh on the other hand is proving very satisfactory. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Zul'tu Rek
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.01.04 01:10:00 -
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Malcanis wrote: Rail Rokh on the other hand is proving very satisfactory.
The exact lukewarm verbiage I would use to describe it.
Rails are now more acceptable. They aren't good, but they're no longer unabashedly horrific. Given the choice, they should still be the absolute last weapon system one trains, imho. |
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