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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Raid
Either way the very fact that you took and outpost from them is more bruising to their massive pride and ego than 100 capital ship losses.
If by them you mean Xelas then youre right.
All the cheering and back padding aside let us not forget that this war is between BoB and Ascn. Bob taking an Axe station or an LV station would be similar to the case at hand. Yet it would not be seen as a victory, would it ?
Celes (as much as i personally dislike them) did an impressive job holding down Horde and Xelas forces in Fountain for a month. This was the first time they brought their capitals. Ascn jumped on the bandwagon here and tried/tries to score a backdoor victory but this was never a "vs bob" thing. Otherwise if they were so brave and prepared, why didnt they take a real bob outpost ? since there are plenty spread out in fountain ?
This situation shows one thing, Xelas messed up and lost control. We will see how or if this situation turns when a) Xelas and Horde try to recapture the station b) Bob diverts forces to close this backdoor c) another solution is found via mercs or or or.
Nice attempt to spin the victory over someone else into a victory over bob, cyvok you must be very desperate if that is your only success compared to the whooping you get in GQ atm.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:21:00 -
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Originally by: Dragutinovic
He didnt , it said clearly : BOB Meatshield 0 - ASCN 1 
Originally by: CYVOK At approximately 16:00 EvE time yesterday ASCN & Celes Forces engaged Xelas, BoB & Horde Forces in Fountain.
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BoB Meat Shield 0, ASCN 1.
BoB has lost their first station to the forces of ASCN & her allies.
-CYVOK-
nothing else needs to be said tbh 
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:31:00 -
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Xelas like MC, ISS and some other factions in eve are a special form of entity within eve.
By gamemechanics they are forced to "claim" space to use it while they publically state they only "rent" space from a stronger power.
They coexist in the same space which is under the rule of one alliance. Naturally this doesnt make them members of this alliance. Similar to i.e. Goons in RA space, Free star or space alliance (?) in 5 days or the various forces residing in d2/g space.
Im not disputing that taking a station from them is not an achievement as by all means they can fight for themself and are supposed to defend what is theirs. But by no means they should be counted as "part of BoB" since obviously if they were supposed to be part of BoB they would be invited into the alliance and not coexist with their own structures, command and rules. If you damage a ship or damage a station or kill their pos you do no damage to the "hosting" alliance apart from the possibility that those forces might leave fedup. A direct sting towards bobs wallets or forces isnt delivered this way.
As i said the most interesting thing to see will be the reaction to this. I forsee the station not keeping Ascn colors for long.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:55:00 -
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Edited by: Kcel Chim on 25/10/2006 19:56:07
Originally by: XoPhyte
Where does "the five" live exactly?
youre new to eve, arent you ?
Im not a dice member and neither did i merge into bob as my corp / alliancelogo clearly shows, for the rest of you who talk before thinking.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.25 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: XoPhyte
Originally by: Kcel Chim Edited by: Kcel Chim on 25/10/2006 19:56:07
Originally by: XoPhyte
Where does "the five" live exactly?
youre new to eve, arent you ?
Im not a dice member and neither did i merge into bob as my corp / alliancelogo clearly shows, for the rest of you who talk before thinking.
Thats all fine and good, but again, where do you live exactly? 
Hopefully you can just answer the only question that was asked this time. 
The 5 (call it sentimentality i still stick to that alliance and corp logo) currently inhabit most of empire and lowsec space combined with a wow server. script and his flowerpicking pah.
Most of our more active guys went into Dice, some others into LV and the majority of the other .5. corps joined up with OSS, ERA and LV. Nothing wrong with taking a break from eve is there ?
If you have further questions im quiet sure Cyvok can give you some answers as to who "allowed" Ascn to live in the south in the first place when Xetic went down the drain. So dont talk to loud boy.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.25 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: XoPhyte
So another question, that this person that you are posting with is most likely NOT your main then as the five for all practical purposes no longer exists?
And to be honest, you call me a "boy" yet you act like a child who cannot answer a simple question. Mature.
This is my "Main" as you call it, it has the most skillpoints and its the character i used and use for forumposting ever since day 1 of my evetime.
The boy comment was a referal to your either existing or pretended lack of knowledge of who "5"/Atuk were.
But direct any other questions you have to me im eager to reply.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.25 20:40:00 -
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Edited by: Kcel Chim on 25/10/2006 20:40:35
Originally by: Slowboat
Umm.. buy a clue before you post. Have you even looked at the map? In order to get the ASCN Cap ship fleet up there they had to Cyno chain straight through most of BOB owned territory.
Oh.. wait.. By sneak you must mean keep it quiet from all the BOB TS, Forum and Alt spies. I gotcha.
No. it just needs 7-8 cyno chars in place and takes with some tricks less then 1h to get there from Ascn space.
http://www.eve-icsc.com/jumptools/jumpplanner.php?rangeskill=4&fuelskill=4&fromsystem=AZN-D2&waypoints%5B%5D=PNQY-Y&st=dreadnought
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