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Polux
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Posted - 2003.11.04 11:57:00 -
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I am a sucker for ships and they are the main resone why I play. I change my ships regularly and have all but one Race BS skill. I was thinking for my next ship should I go for the Tempest or the Raven. I have had a Raven befor but sold it coz of some fitting issues and I needit to pay back 20 mills that I didn't have.
Now I'm flying an Apoc amd will at least for the next week or so but I don't like it's looks or its fitting posebility. I had a Tempest in beta's Armageddon and liked it very much and now I wouldn't mind getting one but I would like to ask you guys what ship is better as all around BS and what you would pick(and do on it)
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Violation
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Posted - 2003.11.04 12:07:00 -
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I love my raven and would reccomend it any day..one of the best ships in the game imo. Although tempest is also nice, it all depends on your playing style. If you like missles (like me) the raven is a dream come true, along with the huge shields its my perfect ship really. Both are huge damage dealers though, a tempest fitted with 1400mm's can do some serious damage.
Overall...I would say raven, but like I said, it depends whether you prefare missles or turrets, whichever you choose would be good though.
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Polux
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Posted - 2003.11.04 12:19:00 -
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Damn right I like missles and I love shield good to get this from a guy that killes people for living. I was going over the stats on theys ships and I saw that the Tempest has much poorer defence cabebility then the Raven but it's PG is greatly bigger but coz you don't have to use turrets on the Raven you don't need it that much. Anyone out there flying a Tempest that can comment me on the tempest defence?
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Centuri
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Posted - 2003.11.04 12:33:00 -
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With the Tempests 5 medslots and 6 lowslots,and no cap drainage from the proj/launchers in the highslots, the Tempest could become a defensive beast. Tempest could run a shieldbooster with an amp all day long with some cap rechargers in it's lowslots and the extras could be fitted with 1600mm armour which would beef it up even more. I only fly the Tempests lil brother atm though, going to build up my skills before I move onto the Tempest. 
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Polux
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Posted - 2003.11.04 13:16:00 -
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So there is realy no proof for this but I will take a look at it a corp mate just bought one I will ask him to fitt it and see how it goes. Anything else I should know ?
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Centuri
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Posted - 2003.11.04 13:45:00 -
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Edited by: Centuri on 04/11/2003 13:46:21
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So there is realy no proof for this but I will take a look at it a corp mate just bought one I will ask him to fitt it and see how it goes. Anything else I should know ?
Why not try it yourself?  Go to Chaos server after the next save (whenever that is), and try out both ships for yourself, see what ship you can most utilise with your current skills, try out different setups, train different skills to see their benefit, ALL FOR FREE, but of course make sure you test some "bugs" while yer there! 
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Polux
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Posted - 2003.11.04 17:08:00 -
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Chaos for some reson doesn't work it is all in blurr here 
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Automatic Jack
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Posted - 2003.11.05 13:29:00 -
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I fly a Tempest and am finally very glad I stuck it out with Minmatar ships as my primary ship family. I cannot really compare it to a Raven since i've never flown one, but the Temp is definitely an awesome ship. In terms of "all-aroundness" I think the Tempest is the way to go. The options on a Raven seem alot more limited to me.
As suggested by another poster on this thread, the defensive capabilities are great. While I havent tried the exact loadout he suggests (sounds like he's suggesting all cap relays in low-slots), I generally have little capacitor trouble running two or more shield hardeners with extensive shield boosting. This is with only a handful of cap relays, leaving room for other fun stuff in low slots.
Dishing out doom and destruction with 4x1200's and 4xlaunchers is great fun. In general, I'd suggest 1200's over 1400's for their faster RoF and less extreme range. In some cases though it definitely is fun to use 1400's just to see how much you can dish out.
Also, I think it's safe to say that the Tempest/Typhoon skill bonuses are probably the best of all BS's. The projectile damage potential based on gunnery skills and ship bonuses alone is staggering without even having to use any gyros. (not that I dont ocasionally  )
If all that werent convincing enough, you've even got enough drone capacity for 6 heavy drones, not as good as 9, but hardly bad...
If you're a ship-enthusiast and havent given the Tempest a good whirl yet, I strongly recommend it. It's great fun. You might even want to stick with it
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Digital Flare
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Posted - 2003.11.05 14:57:00 -
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I agree with the above post. As a dmg dealer, the Tempest when outfitted with a couple of 1200mm's or 1400mm's depending on the range you want to have, along with some cruise missles is simply staggering to behold.
The speed bonus of Mims and the Large Proj + the Mim BS skill bonus of +5% each level can bring that dmg dished out to biblical proportions. By sticking to Large Projs with the bonuses included, it leaves plenty of cap to use whatever mid slots you would like. Throw in a couple Ogres into the mix and it is a beast to deal with.
Agreed the defensive specs aren't as good as the Raven, but with a couple shield hardeners and/or reinforced bulkheads, it can stand with the best of them.
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XpoHoc
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Posted - 2003.11.05 19:16:00 -
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Edited by: XpoHoc on 05/11/2003 19:16:50
Both ships are great. You can hardly compare them.
Raven is the high tech missle boat and the Tempest is just...
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Stoop
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Posted - 2003.11.05 20:03:00 -
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With a raven, if you get locked down and you have 6 (assuming you use 6 launchers) launcher to shoot FoF missles. Tempest, its 4 max, and many people may decide to use 6 turrets, only giving you 2 FoF cruises to protect yourself while locked down. This notches up the defense of a Raven if you ask me.
On the flip side you can use 2-3 cap relays, a few armor hardeners, and a few extenders, on top of that, use sheild boosters/hardenres in your mid, and make your Tempest a tank on both sides. Sure you can do this in a Raven too, but a Tempest is faster, so they speed hit isnt nearly as bad.
Also, you can shoot down missles, not turrets. Its all up to you, and who you fight/what you do with your BS.
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Centuri
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Posted - 2003.11.05 20:42:00 -
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Polux..go down to the "Patch Review" forum and read the stickys, they should be able to get you on chaos, also note that you have to link some of the test patches yourself sometimes.
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can bring that dmg dished out to biblical proportions.
 I like your choice of words!!
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2003.11.06 03:07:00 -
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While I would take a Raven over a Tempest, I do agree with the "damage of biblical proportions" comment..
a pal of mine, running 5-6 1400mm's on his Tempest..
first picture is stock stats,
second info is skill based
third window is with mods and other stuff
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FjellHagen
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Posted - 2003.11.06 04:59:00 -
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Well you vere asking for an all round BS, does that include Mining? cause Raven sux @ that
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Bushido
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Posted - 2003.11.06 13:34:00 -
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He has Apocalypse to mine
I think the 2 ships are not comparable.
Raven is a launchers platform i think it is uber in PvP
Tempest is a flexible weapon but it needs many many skills to use correctly
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Nightm4re
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Posted - 2003.11.06 22:04:00 -
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raven has 4 or 5 turret hardpoints...its not that bad for mining...
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DoctorGonzo
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Posted - 2003.11.07 11:51:00 -
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My advice would be to try and keep your Apocalypse for mining and npc farming, in my opinion it's the best at both.
But try to get a second battleship for pvp, probably a Raven or a Scorpion.
However if you can only stretch to one Battleship then that's when the Tempest comes into it's own as it's the most Balanced out all the Level 2 Battleships.
One of the other posts on this thread raised a very valid point; you've got to have the right skills to get the most out of a Tempest. If you have them the rewards will be great, 1200+ wrecking damage from 1400mm Howitzers.
Hope my opinions help :)
DoctorGonzo
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Polux
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Posted - 2003.11.07 16:21:00 -
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raven has 4 or 5 turret hardpoints...its not that bad for mining...
It has 4 and yes that suckes for mining then you just get a Thorax and mine faster :)
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