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Saskia Laru
the 57th Overlanders Brigade
11
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Posted - 2015.04.20 01:14:00 -
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The only reason I clicked on this topic is that I saw Veers was the last to post. I just had to see if he was up to his usual insanity.
I was not disappointed. |

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
995
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Posted - 2015.04.20 01:31:41 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Amy Lemmont wrote:Veers Belvar wrote: And I have no need to shut you down, the csm elections did that perfectly, by exposing you as a griefer group with nary a sliver of true popular support. Keep on losing, you are so good at it.
Hate to break it to you, but I just checked our killboard. Nope still not shut down. Yup more supporters buying shares. Come on man... If your going to troll at least put some effort into it. I patiently await your next volley of tears  Lol, tears, you sound like Loyalanon's sidekick. Code was never about ganking some pathetic miners and haulers. It was about creating a popular movement to fundamentally change the risk/reward balance in highsec, and force PvE players into low/null. And in that is has failed in every possible way. The PvE players keep on winning, Code keeps on flailing about, and Code leadership keeps changing faster than a pair of smelly socks. A forum full of Veers Belvar tears sais we are relevant and winning.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
579
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Posted - 2015.04.20 01:37:26 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:
A forum full of Veers Belvar tears sais we are relevant and winning.
Ya, so winning that you invested considerable effort in running a candidate for CSM to fundamentally change highsec, becaue it is rapidly slipping away from you.
I'll take delusional Code rhetoric for 100. |

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
996
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Posted - 2015.04.20 01:47:52 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:
A forum full of Veers Belvar tears sais we are relevant and winning.
Ya, so winning that you invested considerable effort in running a candidate for CSM to fundamentally change highsec, becaue it is rapidly slipping away from you. I'll take delusional Code rhetoric for 100. We have fun at the game while you are docked and crying, sounds like winning to me.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
579
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Posted - 2015.04.20 01:56:13 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:
A forum full of Veers Belvar tears sais we are relevant and winning.
Ya, so winning that you invested considerable effort in running a candidate for CSM to fundamentally change highsec, becaue it is rapidly slipping away from you. I'll take delusional Code rhetoric for 100. We have fun at the game while you are docked and crying, sounds like winning to me.
Lol....fun??? You spend 90% of your time crying about risk/reward in highsec...and why on earth would I dock up for you? Your anti-incursion campaign flopped spectacularly. |

Saskia Laru
the 57th Overlanders Brigade
12
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Posted - 2015.04.20 02:02:20 -
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Veers Belvar wrote: Lol....fun??? You spend 90% of your time crying about risk/reward in highsec...and why on earth would I dock up for you? Your anti-incursion campaign flopped spectacularly.
Not to burst your bubble lad, but maybe that so called "incursion campaign" you been going on about was only important to you? Maybe they don't give a &^%$ about you or your activities. Maybe they just have better things to do than stroke your ego.
Just a thought.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
579
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Posted - 2015.04.20 02:06:25 -
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Saskia Laru wrote:Veers Belvar wrote: Lol....fun??? You spend 90% of your time crying about risk/reward in highsec...and why on earth would I dock up for you? Your anti-incursion campaign flopped spectacularly.
Not to burst your bubble lad, but maybe that so called "incursion campaign" you been going on about was only important to you? Maybe they don't give a &^%$ about you or your activities. Maybe they just have better things to do than stroke your ego. Just a thought.
Perhaps, on the other hand they designed a whole contest about it, raised significant funds for prizes, hyped it upped repeatedly on their website, and organized gank fleet after gank fleet, only to meet with crushing failure.
So no, this wasn't a case of not trying, this was a case of trying and failing, over, and over, and over again.
So much for "elite PvP" and the rest of that tripe. Code met the best - and it wasn't even close. |

Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
996
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Posted - 2015.04.20 02:10:10 -
[98] - Quote
Saskia Laru wrote:Veers Belvar wrote: Lol....fun??? You spend 90% of your time crying about risk/reward in highsec...and why on earth would I dock up for you? Your anti-incursion campaign flopped spectacularly.
Not to burst your bubble lad, but maybe that so called "incursion campaign" you been going on about was only important to you? Maybe they don't give a &^%$ about you or your activities. Maybe they just have better things to do than stroke your ego. Just a thought. He actually thinks he is winning if he stays docked and plays something else. Lol
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Amy Lemmont
New Order Logistics CODE.
13
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Posted - 2015.04.20 03:16:40 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:Saskia Laru wrote:Veers Belvar wrote: Lol....fun??? You spend 90% of your time crying about risk/reward in highsec...and why on earth would I dock up for you? Your anti-incursion campaign flopped spectacularly.
Not to burst your bubble lad, but maybe that so called "incursion campaign" you been going on about was only important to you? Maybe they don't give a &^%$ about you or your activities. Maybe they just have better things to do than stroke your ego. Just a thought. Perhaps, on the other hand they designed a whole contest about it, raised significant funds for prizes, hyped it upped repeatedly on their website, and organized gank fleet after gank fleet, only to meet with crushing failure. So no, this wasn't a case of not trying, this was a case of trying and failing, over, and over, and over again. So much for "elite PvP" and the rest of that tripe. Code met the best - and it wasn't even close.
Hmm... The killboards show otherwise. On the other hand though, you continue to flood the forums with your glorious tears, so yup, I'd say we are winning big time.
You doubt we make a difference? How about going out to Gamis some day. I remember when it used to be nothing, but large blobs of hulks and machinaws raping the ice belt with in half an our of it spawning. Now tell me what you see. Some scattered tanked skiffs and procurers. The rest of the region is much the same. I'd say we are making a difference one region at a time.
I patiently await your next volley of tears 
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Amy Lemmont
New Order Logistics CODE.
13
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Posted - 2015.04.20 03:24:07 -
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Veers Belvar wrote:
Buying shares is meaningless...it just shows that a few bored rich people support griefing. When it came to the true test of support - voting - your true support count was revealed.
Excuses there are many, but facts speak louder than rhetoric. Code ran hard, and lost harder.
As for my supporters, see the highsec PvErs elected....it's clear who truly speaks for the people.
And I have no need to shut you down, the csm elections did that perfectly, by exposing you as a griefer group with nary a sliver of true popular support. Keep on losing, you are so good at it.
Oh yeah by the way if you actually went to the link, you would see there is more then just a "few" supporters. There has to be hundreds of names there of people who bought shares. You lose again.
I patiently await your next volley of tears 
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
579
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Posted - 2015.04.20 04:30:18 -
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Amy Lemmont wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
Buying shares is meaningless...it just shows that a few bored rich people support griefing. When it came to the true test of support - voting - your true support count was revealed.
Excuses there are many, but facts speak louder than rhetoric. Code ran hard, and lost harder.
As for my supporters, see the highsec PvErs elected....it's clear who truly speaks for the people.
And I have no need to shut you down, the csm elections did that perfectly, by exposing you as a griefer group with nary a sliver of true popular support. Keep on losing, you are so good at it.
Oh yeah by the way if you actually went to the link, you would see there is more then just a "few" supporters. There has to be hundreds of names there of people who bought shares. You lose again. I patiently await your next volley of tears 
"are more" not "is more," "than" not "then." And of course, many of these "supporters" may simply be alts of a single player, or the may be folks who were scammed into purchasing shares like miner TrueVolley was, or they may be facade characters who never actually play - ever seen Anti-Mining Activist, for one?
And to be clear, buying a few shares is not a real indication of support. Where it really matters, at the ballot box, Code failed spectacularly, while the highsec PvE players just kept on winning. |

Danalee
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
1297
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Posted - 2015.04.20 04:41:48 -
[102] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote: And to be clear, buying a few shares is not a real indication of support. Where it really matters, at the ballot box, Code failed spectacularly, while the highsec PvE players just kept on winning.
Oh lord, that's what you keep saying, that's what you are running with after all your other bubbles got burst...
Let me say it again, just because I love it;
Code candidate had infinitely more votes than you. You fail and your tears are showing. Tora (the big bad evil hisec baby seal slayer) had tripple that. You fail and the impotence of your latest rhetoric is so broken it's funny. Goons... well yeah, you know where this one is going You fail yet again but don't let that stop you, it's been a while since so many people had so many laughs about so much whinging.
To summarize, your sparrow is dead. Long live the sparrow!
D.

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Noragen Neirfallas
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
292
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Posted - 2015.04.20 10:21:37 -
[103] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Amy Lemmont wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
Buying shares is meaningless...it just shows that a few bored rich people support griefing. When it came to the true test of support - voting - your true support count was revealed.
Excuses there are many, but facts speak louder than rhetoric. Code ran hard, and lost harder.
As for my supporters, see the highsec PvErs elected....it's clear who truly speaks for the people.
And I have no need to shut you down, the csm elections did that perfectly, by exposing you as a griefer group with nary a sliver of true popular support. Keep on losing, you are so good at it.
Oh yeah by the way if you actually went to the link, you would see there is more then just a "few" supporters. There has to be hundreds of names there of people who bought shares. You lose again. I patiently await your next volley of tears  "are more" not "is more," "than" not "then." And of course, many of these "supporters" may simply be alts of a single player, or the may be folks who were scammed into purchasing shares like miner TrueVolley was, or they may be facade characters who never actually play - ever seen Anti-Mining Activist, for one? And to be clear, buying a few shares is not a real indication of support. Where it really matters, at the ballot box, Code failed spectacularly, while the highsec PvE players just kept on winning. Wait a minute. "you would see there and more then just a "few" supporters."
Got to give you the second grammar mistake though. 1 outta 2 aint bad bud
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Danalee
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
1308
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Posted - 2015.04.20 10:31:26 -
[104] - Quote
^^ From all the drivel you pick grammar?  Also: , or the may be folks
Comma or the may be folks. Indeed. The lights are on but nobody is home.
D.

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Noragen Neirfallas
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
294
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Posted - 2015.04.20 10:35:05 -
[105] - Quote
I couldn't sit back and let a bad grammar correction go. I mean it's one thing to have bad grammar (like me). But its another to miss correct it. Think of the children
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Noragen Neirfallas
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
294
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Posted - 2015.04.20 11:07:33 -
[106] - Quote
Guys stop we are being mean and insensitive. I have solved Veers
Link
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
1005
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Posted - 2015.04.20 11:48:50 -
[107] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Amy Lemmont wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
Buying shares is meaningless...it just shows that a few bored rich people support griefing. When it came to the true test of support - voting - your true support count was revealed.
Excuses there are many, but facts speak louder than rhetoric. Code ran hard, and lost harder.
As for my supporters, see the highsec PvErs elected....it's clear who truly speaks for the people.
And I have no need to shut you down, the csm elections did that perfectly, by exposing you as a griefer group with nary a sliver of true popular support. Keep on losing, you are so good at it.
Oh yeah by the way if you actually went to the link, you would see there is more then just a "few" supporters. There has to be hundreds of names there of people who bought shares. You lose again. I patiently await your next volley of tears  "are more" not "is more," "than" not "then." And of course, many of these "supporters" may simply be alts of a single player, or the may be folks who were scammed into purchasing shares like miner TrueVolley was, or they may be facade characters who never actually play - ever seen Anti-Mining Activist, for one? And to be clear, buying a few shares is not a real indication of support. Where it really matters, at the ballot box, Code failed spectacularly, while the highsec PvE players just kept on winning. Glorious tears, now even with gramar correction. Veers has to actually undock to see how highsec is changing, i guess that will never happen.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2274
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Posted - 2015.04.20 11:59:11 -
[108] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Guys stop we are being mean and insensitive. I have solved Veers Link Nice, was worth reading. 
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - DELETE THE WEAK , ADAPT OR DIE !
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Amy Lemmont
New Order Logistics CODE.
16
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Posted - 2015.04.20 19:03:25 -
[109] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Amy Lemmont wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
Buying shares is meaningless...it just shows that a few bored rich people support griefing. When it came to the true test of support - voting - your true support count was revealed.
Excuses there are many, but facts speak louder than rhetoric. Code ran hard, and lost harder.
As for my supporters, see the highsec PvErs elected....it's clear who truly speaks for the people.
And I have no need to shut you down, the csm elections did that perfectly, by exposing you as a griefer group with nary a sliver of true popular support. Keep on losing, you are so good at it.
Oh yeah by the way if you actually went to the link, you would see there is more then just a "few" supporters. There has to be hundreds of names there of people who bought shares. You lose again. I patiently await your next volley of tears  "are more" not "is more," "than" not "then." And of course, many of these "supporters" may simply be alts of a single player, or the may be folks who were scammed into purchasing shares like miner TrueVolley was, or they may be facade characters who never actually play - ever seen Anti-Mining Activist, for one? And to be clear, buying a few shares is not a real indication of support. Where it really matters, at the ballot box, Code failed spectacularly, while the highsec PvE players just kept on winning.
You keep saying that, but GSF has how many candidates on the CSM? Who is our biggest supporters again? Who runs and/or participates in most of our freighter/orca ganking fleets? I'll give you a hint, it isn't high sec carebears, or anyone in your movement.
Also, please provide proof of your accusations that anyone was scammed into buying shares, or that anyone on our share holder page is not a real pilot.
Once again, I await your next volley of tears 
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Vic Jefferson
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
233
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Posted - 2015.04.20 21:15:42 -
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Gerhard Stringfellow wrote:I don't see how the changes to null will disrupt CODE at all.
Remember that the blocks act strategically in response to future game changes.
All of the sudden, when sov null just might be about more than supercapitals, we see KarmaFleet, Pandemic Horde, et al. being formed. The age of the weaponized newbie has dawned.
If the mineral and industry buffs are for real, and the blocks recruit miners en masse, you could see the hi sec miner populations being depleted. I mean you could say this is patently absurd, but now every newbie in a rifter -actually- matters and is actively sought out by the coalitions. The biggest threat to CODE. is not the latest hi sec braveheart movement, but game mechanic changes.
Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM X
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
1006
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Posted - 2015.04.21 03:00:24 -
[111] - Quote
Amy Lemmont wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Amy Lemmont wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
Buying shares is meaningless...it just shows that a few bored rich people support griefing. When it came to the true test of support - voting - your true support count was revealed.
Excuses there are many, but facts speak louder than rhetoric. Code ran hard, and lost harder.
As for my supporters, see the highsec PvErs elected....it's clear who truly speaks for the people.
And I have no need to shut you down, the csm elections did that perfectly, by exposing you as a griefer group with nary a sliver of true popular support. Keep on losing, you are so good at it.
Oh yeah by the way if you actually went to the link, you would see there is more then just a "few" supporters. There has to be hundreds of names there of people who bought shares. You lose again. I patiently await your next volley of tears  "are more" not "is more," "than" not "then." And of course, many of these "supporters" may simply be alts of a single player, or the may be folks who were scammed into purchasing shares like miner TrueVolley was, or they may be facade characters who never actually play - ever seen Anti-Mining Activist, for one? And to be clear, buying a few shares is not a real indication of support. Where it really matters, at the ballot box, Code failed spectacularly, while the highsec PvE players just kept on winning. You keep saying that, but GSF has how many candidates on the CSM? Who is our biggest supporters again? Who runs and/or participates in most of our freighter/orca ganking fleets? I'll give you a hint, it isn't high sec carebears, or anyone in your movement. You lose yet again. Also, please provide proof of your accusations that anyone was scammed into buying shares, or that anything on our shareholders page being falsified or made up. Once again, I await your next volley of tears  Veers' movement is an alliance of him and a couple of NPC mission agents he is docked with in the same station.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
579
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Posted - 2015.04.21 03:27:39 -
[112] - Quote
Amy Lemmont wrote:You keep saying that, but GSF has how many candidates on the CSM? Who is our biggest supporters again? Who runs and/or participates in most of our freighter/orca ganking fleets? I'll give you a hint, it isn't high sec carebears, or anyone in your movement. You lose yet again. Also, please provide proof of your accusations that anyone was scammed into buying shares, or that anything on our shareholders page being falsified or made up. Once again, I await your next volley of tears 
It's either "is our biggest supporter" or "are our biggest supporters," not "is our biggest supporters."
That a tiny fraction of Goons are highsec griefers hardly means that GSF =/= Code. Code ran a candidate, in the form of our good friend Sabriz, and was mercilessly crushed. The chief Goon candidate, Sion Kumiwhatever, for all of his serious flaws, was instrumental in getting awoxxing removed from the game. Sure doesn't sound like a Code supporter to me.
As far as Code being scammers, I'm shocked that you demand proof - you must truly be naive. Try this one for starters. http://www.minerbumping.com/2014/08/roaches-in-sunlight-part-2.html
I await your next delusional post demonstrating your inability to grasp reality and laced with reference to nonexistent tears. |

Amy Lemmont
New Order Logistics CODE.
16
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Posted - 2015.04.21 05:25:29 -
[113] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote: hardly means that GSF =/= Code.
Thanks for proving my point :P
Unless you meant to say "hardley means that GSF=Code", since we are playing grammar **** :)
I patiently await your next volley of tears 
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
579
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Posted - 2015.04.22 03:03:47 -
[114] - Quote
Amy Lemmont wrote:Veers Belvar wrote: hardly means that GSF =/= Code. Thanks for proving my point :P Unless you meant to say "hardley means that GSF=Code", since we are playing grammar **** :) That article shows to me that someone was not following the code and plotting against the New Order (A very serious offense), and got punished by getting his mining permit revoked along with losing his merc fee. Seems pretty clear-cut and legit to me. Once again you lose. I patiently await your next volley of tears 
If you understood emphasis it would be clear...and it's "hardly" not "hardley." An agent of the New Order should always use proper spelling and grammar...you disappoint me.
The article clearly shows a miner being scammed out of 1 billion isk, and that money being used for share purchases. To wit, an unwilling and unsupportive shareholder. How many more hundreds are out there? Just another example that owning shares doesn't make you a Codie. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
336
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Posted - 2015.04.22 03:06:21 -
[115] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:
If you understood emphasis it would be clear...and it's "hardly" not "hardley." An agent of the New Order should always use proper spelling and grammar...you disappoint me.
The article clearly shows a miner being scammed out of 1 billion isk, and that money being used for share purchases. To wit, an unwilling and unsupportive shareholder. How many more hundreds are out there? Just another example that owning shares doesn't make you a Codie.
Congratulations on your first grammatically correct post while correcting somebodies grammar veers.
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
579
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Posted - 2015.04.22 03:07:33 -
[116] - Quote
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
If you understood emphasis it would be clear...and it's "hardly" not "hardley." An agent of the New Order should always use proper spelling and grammar...you disappoint me.
The article clearly shows a miner being scammed out of 1 billion isk, and that money being used for share purchases. To wit, an unwilling and unsupportive shareholder. How many more hundreds are out there? Just another example that owning shares doesn't make you a Codie.
Congratulations on your first grammatically correct post while correcting somebodies grammar veers.
somebody's |

Noragen Neirfallas
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
336
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Posted - 2015.04.22 03:19:33 -
[117] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
If you understood emphasis it would be clear...and it's "hardly" not "hardley." An agent of the New Order should always use proper spelling and grammar...you disappoint me.
The article clearly shows a miner being scammed out of 1 billion isk, and that money being used for share purchases. To wit, an unwilling and unsupportive shareholder. How many more hundreds are out there? Just another example that owning shares doesn't make you a Codie.
Congratulations on your first grammatically correct post while correcting somebodies grammar veers. somebody's Actually no. I kind of set you up for that. Someone's is the correct way to say that Veers. I feel a little guilty for it but you did deserve it. Go back and learn your English better before imposing your faulty version.
got dat m8?  
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Noragen Neirfallas
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
336
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Posted - 2015.04.22 03:34:00 -
[118] - Quote
English 101 with music and video
Just for you veers cause I like ya so much
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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
579
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Posted - 2015.04.22 03:44:47 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Veers Belvar wrote:
If you understood emphasis it would be clear...and it's "hardly" not "hardley." An agent of the New Order should always use proper spelling and grammar...you disappoint me.
The article clearly shows a miner being scammed out of 1 billion isk, and that money being used for share purchases. To wit, an unwilling and unsupportive shareholder. How many more hundreds are out there? Just another example that owning shares doesn't make you a Codie.
Congratulations on your first grammatically correct post while correcting somebodies grammar veers. somebody's Actually no. I kind of set you up for that. Someone's is the correct way to say that Veers. I feel a little guilty for it but you did deserve it. Go back and learn your English better before imposing your faulty version. got dat m8?  
Somebody is fine...honestly I prefer you Marmite folks when you are trying and failing to wardecc me, or docking up when someone comes to fight you. This look stupid and make grammar errors role doesn't fit you well - I may need to personally take it up with Tora - he should have lots of free time after his CSM debacle. |

Amy Lemmont
New Order Logistics CODE.
18
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Posted - 2015.04.22 23:26:30 -
[120] - Quote
Veers Belvar wrote:Amy Lemmont wrote:Veers Belvar wrote: hardly means that GSF =/= Code. Thanks for proving my point :P Unless you meant to say "hardley means that GSF=Code", since we are playing grammar **** :) That article shows to me that someone was not following the code and plotting against the New Order (A very serious offense), and got punished by getting his mining permit revoked along with losing his merc fee. Seems pretty clear-cut and legit to me. Once again you lose. I patiently await your next volley of tears  If you understood emphasis it would be clear...and it's "hardly" not "hardley." An agent of the New Order should always use proper spelling and grammar...you disappoint me. The article clearly shows a miner being scammed out of 1 billion isk, and that money being used for share purchases. To wit, an unwilling and unsupportive shareholder. How many more hundreds are out there? Just another example that owning shares doesn't make you a Codie.
Hey Veers,
Would it ever hurt for you to admit you lost an argument? You are just making yourself look like a raging idiot right now.
Your emphasis is wrong as usual, and if you even bothered to read the article you would see someone being punished for breaking the code and not being scammed. You lose yet again!
I hope you have a fine code compliant evening, and I await your next volley of tears 
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