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vinnymcg
eXceed Inc.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:14:00 -
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Hello all,
The problem im having is I want to play eve more but I spend most of my time in college so its kinda hard. Of course all students are blocked from installing software in the college. So I put CPP folder from my C drive onto a CD and i tested it out on a computer that didnt have eve on it and it worked fine. But in college I cant connect to the server so there must be something stoping me, I highly doubt that the eve server is in the networks blocked list, so what else could it be. Can i firewall block eve?
If anybody can figure out possible solutions please reply
P.S the college is against using the computer for gaming so no I cant just ask the Admin's to unblock it
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Illistar DeathWing
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:17:00 -
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They could have a hidden firewall, the way they work is that they have a preset list of programs they allow to access the internet and EVERYTHING else they block, dus not letting it use the connection.
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Black Scorpio
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:21:00 -
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 Originally by: vinnymcg
Hello all,
The problem im having is I want to play eve more but I spend most of my time in college so its kinda hard. Of course all students are blocked from installing software in the college. So I put CPP folder from my C drive onto a CD and i tested it out on a computer that didnt have eve on it and it worked fine. But in college I cant connect to the server so there must be something stoping me, I highly doubt that the eve server is in the networks blocked list, so what else could it be. Can i firewall block eve?
If anybody can figure out possible solutions please reply
P.S the college is against using the computer for gaming so no I cant just ask the Admin's to unblock it
B***ards arent' they 
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Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar
Pragmatics
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Illistar DeathWing
the way they work is that they have a preset list of programs they allow to access the internet and EVERYTHING else they block
Certainly, if I was a network admin that is the way I'd do it. And, indeed, it's the way the network admins at my place of work do it.
If the college has an anti-games policy and a watertight firewall things could be quite tricky. If you have access to a machine on a network outside the college, you could install a proxy/forwarder on it, and bounce traffic to EvE through the firewall on port 80 (the port used to reach websites) and over to the EvE servers. I'm sure someone will be along in a minute to demonstrate how to do this.  Bear in mind that if someone discovers you doing this, it could be grounds for disciplinary action (depending on what sort of agreement you signed when you got network access).
If you can find a network that isn't the college network, that may also be an option. At my place of work, they provide a bog-standard ADSL connection and wireless router in the coffee room to allow people (especially visitors) to access the internet without using the work network. Maybe someone on campus has something similar?
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Scorched Evil
The Silent Rage
YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.10.25 19:52:00 -
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yes but most network admins are complete ****s that have no idea how to look for mallicious traffic in the first place...
on a serious note proxy and *****ing a wireless network are about your only options....
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Sli'co Scoser
Gallente
Luna Tech Manufacturing Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.25 20:09:00 -
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Are you trying to play from your personal computer or from some lab computer?
If you're trying to play during class, just pay attention! You're paying for college, so take advantage of it.
If you're trying to play on some lab computer outside of class, just go home and play.
If you live in the dorms and they block your connection, move off campus and get a real ISP.
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Taram Caldar
Caldari
Acheron Vanguard Armada
The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.10.25 20:18:00 -
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Edited by: Taram Caldar on 25/10/2006 20:18:53
LOL
There is most likely a firewall on the network you are on blocking the ports EVE uses. And any college network admin worth his salt is going to have just about everything except 80 and 443 blocked except specific ports to specific IP's for student vlans.
Sorry bud... you are outta luck. Just like I am at work (well.. technically since I DO have an external network jack I could get around it but I choose not to, because I like my job and don't plan to lose it over a game).
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Fayda Wong
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Posted - 2006.10.25 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: Fayda Wong on 25/10/2006 22:05:48
Wow, I cannot believe that other campuses are so Draconian in their network access. At Columbia everything is open save Windows File Sharing because of the number of viruses that spread through it and everyone gets their own externally accessible IP address.
Have you tried talking to your school's Network Operations Center (NOC)? It is generally filled with very knowledgeable, very nice people.
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Estelle Matsuko
Caldari
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.25 22:26:00 -
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Bathstewards. Fancy them expecting you to STUDY at college.
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Gothikia
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.25 22:34:00 -
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If you are in the UK and using the JANET network, setting up port forwarding on a machine at home either by using your router or a software firewall running on windows, like kerio, then set it up to accept connections on port 443 and then forward them to tranquility on 26000, works brilliantly for me. College expects me to use its facilities to the full, so I do. They give me powerful Dell machines with the latest nVidia cards in it, and i'll use it 
As for your eve client, just set networkAdvanced=1 to enter in the port as 443 in perfs.ini file and your singing!
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Wild Ice
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Posted - 2006.10.26 04:18:00 -
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Most network admins will also block general network traffic on port 80 and 443 through the firewall. Connections through the firewall are only allowed from a intermal proxy server. That means the programe you use needs to be proxy aware and provide authentication when sesssions are established. If that is the case you have absolutly no chance of getting around this unless of course you could run eve in a browser!!
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Arkemn Trefore
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.10.26 04:22:00 -
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The only solution that comes to mind is get a laptop and invest in a verizon or t-mobile wirless internet card
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TOGAKURE Daisuke
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Posted - 2006.10.26 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: Fayda Wong
Wow, I cannot believe that other campuses are so Draconian in their network access. At Columbia everything is open save Windows File Sharing because of the number of viruses that spread through it and everyone gets their own externally accessible IP address.
I recently saw a study (in a good peer reviewed paper) that blocking access this way has a very bad effect to motivation and work performance.
But since we're in real world, you'll find out a lot of stupidity, especially in network field. I've seen people come to core network teams and spouting about such bs like 'NAT is Good' and 'Let's block ICMP since it's an xploit!' crap.
Needless to say they either find Clue or don't work there very long.
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Anade Deltha
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.10.26 04:50:00 -
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Combination of sockscap + YourFreedom works a dream
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.10.26 05:27:00 -
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How about just taking a client copy and bring it to the admins for inspection, along the needed info you can find in the FAQ?
You could give them the port numbers and services used for a start.
Oh, and please be nice. They're normally busy with stuff like retrieving lost data, hunting down loopholes, or fighting off a virus or troyan horse software.
Oh, and I have seen separate divisions within a campus network run their own network security, so you might have to be lucky at more than one department.
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Frenzei
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Posted - 2006.10.26 09:57:00 -
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Get Sockscap V2. Search google for that.
Get Your-Freedom. www.your-freedom.net
Set up your freedom to identify itseld as IE or FF. Then start the local Socks server. Connect Sockscap to this server, then load into Sockscap. Connect Your freedom up to a server. Start eve with sockscap, and of you go!
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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Aerial Boundaries Inc.
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.26 10:24:00 -
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In my college they allow SSH access to CS students because we have 'legitimate' uses for it, and since some of the servers are outside the firewall, we can use SSH tunnels to effectively open any port to a single server.
If you have SSH access for whatever reason, all you need is tranquility's IP and port number, and a way to convince Eve that Tranqulity is at 127.0.0.1, and you can give it a go....
I wonder if our lab computers are good enough to play Eve.....
Also, if they really want a secure network and are competent they'll have packet-inspecting doodahs in their firewall which will detect non-HTTP stuff being done over port 80 and pwn it.
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Valan
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Posted - 2006.10.26 10:35:00 -
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Admins don't block traffic to be an arse. Bandwidth costs money. So if you're a bank then you don't want to lose trades because someone is playing a game.
I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game three years' when I know their account has been sold on.
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Dr Mary
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Posted - 2006.10.26 19:07:00 -
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Step 1. Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP-Tunnel
Step 2. Read it and understand it
Step 3. Search for a program that can the stuff described above
Step 4. U will need to figure out how to work with such a program
Yeah, yeah, the path to the riches is long and hard one, Young Padawan. 
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.26 19:59:00 -
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Might be a daft idea (I never claimed to be "technological" or anything like that  ) but I'm guessing you have thus far been trying via a Broadband network they provide? Do you have a phone line in your room? If so, try an old fashioned dial-up connection, see if that works.
Alternatively, you can (if you're willing to spend a wee bit of money) get a Wap phone with a built in internet connection whosit (I know what I'm talking about, who says I dont ) and run the internet through that. You know, like people do with laptops. A bit pricey, but it'll work.
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jbob2000
Gallente
Cskillzone
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Posted - 2006.10.26 20:09:00 -
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I've got Eve working at school past a firewall.
Get a program called Your Freedom and another one called SocksCap.
Your Freedom allows you to connect to their proxy server through a port that isn't typically blocked by firewalls, and SocksCap routes the program to that port (or something like that).
It's pretty easy to setup, I had to fiddle around with it a bit and read some of the instructions on th Your Freedom site, but in the end, I got it working.
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Ciphero
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.26 21:41:00 -
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SSH Server + PuTTY + Eve (port forwarding as Gothikia described) = Win
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Regat Kozovv
Caldari
Orion's Forge
New Eden Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.26 21:56:00 -
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I'm currently using SocksCap with PuTTY to tunnel through a firewall to my SSH server at home.
You can get WinSSHD for $40 for personal use, which I consider to be pretty reasonable. Set up a server to run that along with the correct open ports on your system
Then start up PuTTY and see if you can connect to it. If so, good. Disconnect from PuTTY and go to "SSH --> Tunnels" in the configuration. You'll want to set up a port for SocksCap to tunnel through. Put in 7070 for the source port and make sure "dynamic" is selected. Hit "add" and you'll see "D7070" in the window. Now would be a good time to save all of your settings in a profile for PuTTY so you don't have to do this everytime.
Download and install SocksCap anc configure it to use your localhost address (127.0.0.1) with port 7070. Then add your EVE Client executable to SocksCap.
To connect, fire up PuTTY and connect to your SSH server. Then open SocksCap and run your EVE Client through it. You should then be able to run just fine.
(Note, you can do this with many applications, not just EVE...=)
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