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Mobadder Thworst RainRunners 207	Posted - 2015.04.08 02:51:52 - [1] - Quote After this last return to the game, I found picking fights in high sec harder than it used to be. I play in a mission hub called Umokka. There are a few miners. It's sleepier than I remember. I'm struggling to get people to "red box." Can baiting almost doesn't work anymore. I've had very limited success with mission baiting Tossing cans and driving around flashing yellow is both very dangerous and ineffective, I spent most of a day doing that to no avail. Duel requests have proven generally crap for me. I was about to give up again when I saw one of my old pvp buddies. He and I staged a fake fight and inspired some locals. Here is the one thing that still works: smack talk. Specifically, get a buddy and stage a very uninformed fight/argument in local channel. Acting like a moron is good, people enjoy shooting at morons. People will get drawn into the drama(or pushed from the grind of PVE) and before you know it you'll be getting fights and drawing spectators. I advise that you should keep it fun for all involved, and the funnier and stupider you are the better chance you have of getting a fight. Make sure you aren't flying a nice ship, it's not believable. If you want to fight, you have to create an adversary. Local is a powerful tool for creating drama and inspiration for fighting. What tricks do the rest of you have to share for getting fights? I shared what's working for me. Let's collaborate!
Don Purple Snuggle Society. 1156	Posted - 2015.04.08 06:07:36 - [2] - Quote Killing the people baiting has become less work than actually baiting sadly. Duel people that you see sending out duels Or accepting. Find a large group trying to kill suspects or criminals and duel them all. Hull tank suspect baiting. Last moment criminal pod loss baiting, make sure your clone is in the desired station. War. I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Dracvlad Taishi Combine Second-Dawn 765	Posted - 2015.04.08 07:01:00 - [3] - Quote There is a guy doing it very well in Osmon, goes suspect in a freighter outside the SOE station, then they decide to shoot him with a mission ship and he docks up and comes out with a Proteus and his neutral RR's and kills them, I think that is actually more fun than can baiting, though he did lose a freighter once when someone bumped him off the station, he certainly had some skin in that game... Ella's Snack bar
Mobadder Thworst RainRunners 211	Posted - 2015.04.08 11:46:19 - [4] - Quote Don Purple wrote: Killing the people baiting has become less work than actually baiting sadly. Duel people that you see sending out duels Or accepting. Find a large group trying to kill suspects or criminals and duel them all. Hull tank suspect baiting. Last moment criminal pod loss baiting, make sure your clone is in the desired station. War. +1 for pod loss baiting. I never thought of that. Good ideas.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1225	Posted - 2015.04.08 11:50:56 - [5] - Quote Hmmm. Umokka you say? Flashy yellow you say? Hmmm. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Mobadder Thworst RainRunners 211	Posted - 2015.04.08 11:57:54 - [6] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: Hmmm. Umokka you say? Flashy yellow you say? Hmmm. Yeah, I'm trying to learn to do the pvp. Any tips on how I could learn it? I can fly up to a battleship!
Faylee Freir Darkness Consumed 88	Posted - 2015.04.09 00:32:50 - [7] - Quote Mobadder Thworst wrote: Mike Adoulin wrote: Hmmm. Umokka you say? Flashy yellow you say? Hmmm. Yeah, I'm trying to learn to do the pvp. Any tips on how I could learn it? I can fly up to a battleship! Patience. Mission flipping is hit and miss. I've gone 3-5 days with no bites, while actively trying for 3-4 hours each day. It's a pretty autistic way of killing things, but can result in some glorious killmails. If you want to flip, just keep at it. HTFU
Noragen Neirfallas Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective 113	Posted - 2015.04.09 01:44:07 - [8] - Quote Personally I find linking crappy fit blingy domi mission fits in local and asking for fitting help while I salvage in a self named domi brings all the can flippers. Their tears are glorious. But that's probably the opposite of what you're trying to do. Honestly incursus looting their wrecks... someone put out a guide for this. But honestly the ninjas cry harder then the mission runners. And the mission runners pay for killing them !! PS linking 2bil isk domi fits once had the added bonus of earning me a half dozen or more kill rights cause nobody scanned the fit... Very entertaining Much content So Eve Such Blogging http://eve12monthchallenge.blogspot.com.au/
Valkin Mordirc 851	Posted - 2015.04.09 02:16:53 - [9] - Quote You can always suspect bait on a trade hub, it works heavily around engagement timers, basically you want to get so that your suspect timers runs out you still have a limited engagement timer with one person you can kill. Like say you bait with a bait tanked Tengu. People start shooting at you, you pick out a target, like say a dragoon or something, and you play you timers to a point where when exit suspect, you still have a timer with the dragoon. Sometimes you'll still have a timer with a few others, but basically you just up ship to something that can kill your target quickly and still live for a minute after you take him out. `#DeleteTheWeak`
Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 46	Posted - 2015.04.09 02:32:04 - [10] - Quote Valkin Mordirc wrote: You can always suspect bait on a trade hub, it works heavily around engagement timers, basically you want to get so that your suspect timers runs out you still have a limited engagement timer with one person you can kill. Like say you bait with a bait tanked Tengu. People start shooting at you, you pick out a target, like say a dragoon or something, and you play you timers to a point where when exit suspect, you still have a timer with the dragoon. Sometimes you'll still have a timer with a few others, but basically you just up ship to something that can kill your target quickly and still live for a minute after you take him out. Ship up from tengu to something that can sucessfully kill a Dragoon stupid enough to fire at said bait tengu on hub. Any more expert advice?
Valkin Mordirc 851	Posted - 2015.04.09 02:49:00 - [11] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Valkin Mordirc wrote: You can always suspect bait on a trade hub, it works heavily around engagement timers, basically you want to get so that your suspect timers runs out you still have a limited engagement timer with one person you can kill. Like say you bait with a bait tanked Tengu. People start shooting at you, you pick out a target, like say a dragoon or something, and you play you timers to a point where when exit suspect, you still have a timer with the dragoon. Sometimes you'll still have a timer with a few others, but basically you just up ship to something that can kill your target quickly and still live for a minute after you take him out. Ship up from tengu to something that can sucessfully kill a Dragoon stupid enough to fire at said bait tengu on hub. Any more expert advice? No that pretty much the jest of it? Why do you have problems comprehending it? =3 `#DeleteTheWeak`
Noragen Neirfallas Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective 116	Posted - 2015.04.09 05:52:21 - [12] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Valkin Mordirc wrote: You can always suspect bait on a trade hub, it works heavily around engagement timers, basically you want to get so that your suspect timers runs out you still have a limited engagement timer with one person you can kill. Like say you bait with a bait tanked Tengu. People start shooting at you, you pick out a target, like say a dragoon or something, and you play you timers to a point where when exit suspect, you still have a timer with the dragoon. Sometimes you'll still have a timer with a few others, but basically you just up ship to something that can kill your target quickly and still live for a minute after you take him out. Ship up from tengu to something that can sucessfully kill a Dragoon stupid enough to fire at said bait tengu on hub. Any more expert advice? Let me underline for you the part you did not read Very entertaining Much content So Eve Such Blogging http://eve12monthchallenge.blogspot.com.au/
Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 47	Posted - 2015.04.09 06:47:25 - [13] - Quote Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Valkin Mordirc wrote: You can always suspect bait on a trade hub, it works heavily around engagement timers, basically you want to get so that your suspect timers runs out you still have a limited engagement timer with one person you can kill. Like say you bait with a bait tanked Tengu. People start shooting at you, you pick out a target, like say a dragoon or something, and you play you timers to a point where when exit suspect, you still have a timer with the dragoon. Sometimes you'll still have a timer with a few others, but basically you just up ship to something that can kill your target quickly and still live for a minute after you take him out. Ship up from tengu to something that can sucessfully kill a Dragoon stupid enough to fire at said bait tengu on hub. Any more expert advice? Let me underline for you the part you did not read Thanks for helping me out station-camping-king. Forgot thats all you guys do. Please discuss what is the preferred ship to kill a Dagoon on a station oh station-camper-champion
Mobadder Thworst RainRunners 219	Posted - 2015.04.09 07:07:17 - [14] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Valkin Mordirc wrote: You can always suspect bait on a trade hub, it works heavily around engagement timers, basically you want to get so that your suspect timers runs out you still have a limited engagement timer with one person you can kill. Like say you bait with a bait tanked Tengu. People start shooting at you, you pick out a target, like say a dragoon or something, and you play you timers to a point where when exit suspect, you still have a timer with the dragoon. Sometimes you'll still have a timer with a few others, but basically you just up ship to something that can kill your target quickly and still live for a minute after you take him out. Ship up from tengu to something that can sucessfully kill a Dragoon stupid enough to fire at said bait tengu on hub. Any more expert advice? Let me underline for you the part you did not read Thanks for helping me out station-camping-king. Forgot thats all you guys do. Please discuss what is the preferred ship to kill a Dagoon on a station oh station-camper-champion Ok, so you ragged on the guy who gave good advice. Then someone helped you understand you were wrong, so you insulted his playstyle. -1000 cool points. I hope Veers comes for you.
Valkin Mordirc 853	Posted - 2015.04.09 07:36:37 - [15] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Valkin Mordirc wrote: You can always suspect bait on a trade hub, it works heavily around engagement timers, basically you want to get so that your suspect timers runs out you still have a limited engagement timer with one person you can kill. Like say you bait with a bait tanked Tengu. People start shooting at you, you pick out a target, like say a dragoon or something, and you play you timers to a point where when exit suspect, you still have a timer with the dragoon. Sometimes you'll still have a timer with a few others, but basically you just up ship to something that can kill your target quickly and still live for a minute after you take him out. Ship up from tengu to something that can sucessfully kill a Dragoon stupid enough to fire at said bait tengu on hub. Any more expert advice? Let me underline for you the part you did not read Thanks for helping me out station-camping-king. Forgot thats all you guys do. Please discuss what is the preferred ship to kill a Dagoon on a station oh station-camper-champion I don't station bait. I just know how it works. Your probably an alt, but You should at least have a decent K/b before talking **** More so,Since we all,Have a better KB then you, That or we just have the balls to post with mains. `#DeleteTheWeak`
Noragen Neirfallas Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective 120	Posted - 2015.04.09 08:38:58 - [16] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Noragen Neirfallas wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Valkin Mordirc wrote: You can always suspect bait on a trade hub, it works heavily around engagement timers, basically you want to get so that your suspect timers runs out you still have a limited engagement timer with one person you can kill. Like say you bait with a bait tanked Tengu. People start shooting at you, you pick out a target, like say a dragoon or something, and you play you timers to a point where when exit suspect, you still have a timer with the dragoon. Sometimes you'll still have a timer with a few others, but basically you just up ship to something that can kill your target quickly and still live for a minute after you take him out. Ship up from tengu to something that can sucessfully kill a Dragoon stupid enough to fire at said bait tengu on hub. Any more expert advice? Let me underline for you the part you did not read Thanks for helping me out station-camping-king. Forgot thats all you guys do. Please discuss what is the preferred ship to kill a Dagoon on a station oh station-camper-champion In the future I give you full permission to browse mine and my ALT trosken neirfallas before making an idiot of yourself. Your friend, Noragen Very entertaining Much content So Eve Such Blogging http://eve12monthchallenge.blogspot.com.au/
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 1492	Posted - 2015.04.09 09:04:17 - [17] - Quote Well, I suppose that's one way to pick a fight... I keep a thoughtgun next to the bed, fully loaded with nerdshot. Just in case.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1227	Posted - 2015.04.09 11:41:57 - [18] - Quote Posting the obligatory 'Post with yer main or GTFO' post. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 1495	Posted - 2015.04.09 12:30:57 - [19] - Quote fine... I'll leave. Oh. wait. Nevermind. I keep a thoughtgun next to the bed, fully loaded with nerdshot. Just in case.
Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 47	Posted - 2015.04.09 13:13:59 - [20] - Quote Eve-kill says i have a 98.48 EFFICIENT rating. Thats almost good enough to join marmate huh? Oh ya your right, marmate dont station camp, what was i thinking.....
Danalee Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective 1237	Posted - 2015.04.09 13:21:11 - [21] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Eve-kill says i have a 98.48 EFFICIENT rating. Thats almost good enough to join marmate huh? Oh ya your right, marmate dont station camp, what was i thinking..... Sorry to burst your little bubble... You can't join us because you aren't very nice. I'm sure we have station campers as we have all sorts of cool people in our alliance. Unless you were picking fights (collaboratively ) Back on topic; Joining an alliance that has the name of being exclusively comprised of station campers or fixated on a specific area makes for some funny looks of surprise right before we take a dump on our target's party. D. Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority
Noragen Neirfallas Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective 129	Posted - 2015.04.09 13:46:22 - [22] - Quote Danalee wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Eve-kill says i have a 98.48 EFFICIENT rating. Thats almost good enough to join marmate huh? Oh ya your right, marmate dont station camp, what was i thinking..... Sorry to burst your little bubble... You can't join us because you aren't very nice. I'm sure we have station campers as we have all sorts of cool people in our alliance. Unless you were picking fights (collaboratively ) Back on topic; Joining an alliance that has the name of being exclusively comprised of station campers or fixated on a specific area makes for some funny looks of surprise right before we take a dump on our target's party. D. ^^^ a master Danalee truly is Here I was all ready to link a wormhole dread kill I orchestrated and you skip past the pettiness and tell it how it is #Humbled Very entertaining Much content So Eve Such Blogging http://eve12monthchallenge.blogspot.com.au/
Mobadder Thworst RainRunners 224	Posted - 2015.04.09 14:42:37 - [23] - Quote Danalee wrote: Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Eve-kill says i have a 98.48 EFFICIENT rating. Thats almost good enough to join marmate huh? Oh ya your right, marmate dont station camp, what was i thinking..... Sorry to burst your little bubble... You can't join us because you aren't very nice. I'm sure we have station campers as we have all sorts of cool people in our alliance. Unless you were picking fights (collaboratively ) Back on topic; Joining an alliance that has the name of being exclusively comprised of station campers or fixated on a specific area makes for some funny looks of surprise right before we take a dump on our target's party. D. First, I applaud you trying pvp. Welcome to the C&P board. As you invited, I checked your KB on Eve-Kill. I do see the bit about the isk efficiency, but I honestly don't think you would enjoy Marmite. At 10 kills, I doubt you are ready for that lifestyle. As you PvP more, I think you will find that the shooting is about a quarter of the game, the laughing and interacting with other players is the other 75%. As for whether Marmites are just station campers: I was in the Orphanage for a while (which I'm assuming is comparable to Marmites ... and the Privateer alliance before it) and yes, there were some no-talent-ass-clowns who did nothing but sensor-boost and alpha-shoot in Jita. Yes, they are very visible because everyone sees them in Jita. However, there were also hard core players with solid foundations in maneuver and damage mechanics who were no fun for anyone to fight. I know at least a few of the old orphanage players who still play... and most of them are in Marmites. They can station hump with the best of them... but that's not all they have. You should try more pvp, could be fun.
Noragen Neirfallas Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective 163	Posted - 2015.04.11 01:25:49 - [24] - Quote Can confirm we are all station hub huggers. You will never see one of us off one of the main 5 station hubs in high-sec. You may freely travel all of eve so long as you don't go to a hub while at war with us as we will never find you or have the balls to come kill you as leaving the station is strictly forbidden. Very entertaining Much content So Eve Such Blogging http://eve12monthchallenge.blogspot.com.au/

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