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Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
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Posted - 2015.04.09 15:52:17 -
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Veine Miromme wrote: Capacitor Management > Level 3 Capacitor Systems Operation > Level 3 Controlled Bursts > Level 2 CPU Management (x1 skill) > Level 4 (not 5 yet due to Black Ops skills requirement learning) Power Grid Management (x1 skill) > Level 4 (same...)
Train these up now. I know that sounds harsh, but I made the same mistake when I was new. I know they seem tedious. I know they don't seem to get you anything new or interesting. But I can't overstate how much easier fitting and flying ships--especially active-tank ships--will be when these are fully skilled up. It's worth it.
In the mean time, fitting projectile weapons isn't a bad idea. AC and Artillery Domis aren't as common as they once were, but they're not unheard of. The Dominix is an extremely versatile hull.
For one thing:
Veine Miromme wrote:For me to have one set of guns will be possible once the Power Grid matter is solved.
Getting rid of all the cap boosters will free up a goodly amount of PG. As an aside, how are your Navigation skills? A lot of those affect capacitor either directly (Afterburner, Fuel Conservation) or indirectly (Acceleration Control, Navigation--because faster means fewer cycles of your prop mod means less cap drain).
Veine Miromme wrote:I don't know what else I could put than guns, maybe some energy leech or something else.
Drone Link Augmentors increase your drone control range. They're almost necessary for using Curators and Wardens effectively.
Incidentally, "omnis" are Omnidirectional Tracking Links, mid slot modules which can be modified with Optimal Range Scripts and Tracking Speed Scripts, or left unmodified to provide a more modest boost to both. They boost your drones, so they're common on drone boats. The Optimal Range Script is particularly nice with sentries.
Other stuff:
Using different sets of drones for different reasons is common--it's why your drone bay is so much bigger than your bandwidth. But the most efficient way to use them is to field a full flight of 5 at a time. If you're dropping Curators, drop 5. If you need to switch to Warriors, drop 5. The exceptions are the little-used EWAR drones, which, except for the ECM drones, are essentially useless.
You should never need more than two hardeners on a PVE boat. If you find yourself tempted, the Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II and the Reactive Armor Hardener are both better (though you really want to train the Armor Resistance Phasing skill up to make the latter more effective). Adaptive Nano Plating II is also good (better than a T1 EANM) and extremely easy to fit, but more common on PVP boats.
Rigs aren't a waste of money if they keep your ship alive. Just sayin'. Some of them can be incredibly effective.
Last, if you look around Missions & Complexes it's very common to offer fits and fitting advice here. It's good that you have something that you're content with, but that doesn't exclude the possibility that you could have something much better.
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Daerrol
Furtherance.
91
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Posted - 2015.04.09 16:34:00 -
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@OP you asked two direct questions, I will give you two direct answers:
If you want to hold loot more in your dominix (Your initial question), you will need to either use Cargo Hold Rigs, or do as others have said and bookmark the MTUs, and warp back in a larger cargo ship after the mission.
Encounter Surveliance Systems (ESS) are a nullsec thing for killing belt rats. It increases the value of the belt rat.
******* Based on your responses in this thread, I would advise you to not even look at the ESS for 3 months while you learn the basics of this game. I would also advise you to drop this blacktops love thing you have going on. There is very good PVE to do in Lowsec and Null Sec. You are not ready for this....
If you can afford all those plex, consider perhaps what you need the ISK for instead of considering ways to spend a lot of ISK to make a little. |
Nuclear Tap
Nuclear Ind. Co.
1
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Posted - 2015.04.09 17:04:22 -
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Veine Miromme wrote:Well thanks, but I'll try to explain the best about what happened when I come back from courts.
As I said, this forum is about Missions & Complexes, not ship fitting, although some may be applied regarding it (Missions & Complexes)... I am trying to revise the loot procedures to solve related problems and calculate the difference in isk / hr or other parameter or factors.
I have other questions, but they will be better left for other threads since there is already confusion permeating the thread. (Or attempts thereof.)
Like I said, I am pretty busy.
In accordance to your narrative, we are seeing serious issues of inefficiency in your game slyle. That's why all this tips. It may greatly improve your performance.
However, directly answering your questions:
1) Loot procedures: during pocket cleaning with your main, you must click on one of the wrecks and save the waypoint in "corporate" in People and Places window. You must do this for every pocket of the mission. Then deliver the mission and complete it. A secondary character, preferably in a Noctis (or in other dedicated salvage ship) should go to each waypoint and loot + salvage. This is the best way to do it in your situation. With experience you can control both accounts at the same time, entering clean pockets with Noctis while you jump to the next pocket with the main char.
After delivering the mission, the wrecks position cease to be Deadspace and become regular space, then you can warp to zero ton each wreck waypoint.
2) calculate isk / hour: You will need to change your fitting. Period. Because this seems to be your ultimate goal, everyone is giving fitting suggestions. Your play style seems so inefficient that your question about loot / salvage remained in the background, because if you change your fitting and style of playing, your profit will increase so much that abandon the wrecks and not salvage at all may perhaps make sense.
Sorry for the bad english, and I hope this give some answers. |
Veine Miromme
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2015.04.09 21:20:22 -
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In accordance to your narrative, we are seeing serious issues of inefficiency in your game slyle.
I found the omnis referred were Omnidirectional Tracking Link... I will have to take the time to verify.
I got the sad news that one of my telecom system ceased to operate in my city and I lose $80 as a result.
If I didn't spend $35 to get the pilot active and $110 to pay for internet time, I'd have gotten $80 more.
On top of $110 + $35 = $145 + $80 = $225 - $20 for 1 month = 12 PLExes.
Thank for the ESS tips Daerrol, I will try to check.
I am out of time for now...
As for Nuclear Tap, I use 2 pilots for loot, but I still don't make enough.
The only thing mission would be good for me would be to get standing back if negative or something... Maybe jump clones, but even then, I just use Estel for that. I even found one for WH.
I will check the loot cargo option |
Schmata Bastanold
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
3026
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Posted - 2015.04.09 22:10:27 -
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I might be wrong but this thread reads like something Lar Tadaruwa would write. Anybody remembers that dude from last year?
Anyway, you say you don't make enough. Thing is you are doing it wrong.
I just cleared Smash The Supplier and 2nd part of Mordu's Folly which took me maybe 40 minutes in total. Those missions are against factions so no bounties but rats drop tags. Effect? 40 minutes = approx. 70 mil in tags. I don't salvage, it's not worth it, MTU is enough.
I didn't destroy structures that are objectives in both missions so after next 6 downtimes I will just do those missions again and will pocket around 500mil in loot for like 4 hrs of missioning / week.
I could pull missions from same 2 agents with at least 3 other characters and there are high chances missions like those above or Angel Extravaganza or The Blockade (which are mostly about bounties, approx 45mil for both, but loot is also decent) would repeat quite often.
Can you see the potential here if I could only be bothered to make Eve my second job?
Do you see where our ways differ?
Oh, and btw I'm using 3bil marauder not crippled, failfit domi. It earned its price already and I barely have time to log in.
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
5788
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Posted - 2015.04.09 22:38:20 -
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Veine Miromme wrote:I am trying to revise the loot procedures to solve related problems and calculate the difference in isk / hr or other parameter or factors.
Hire Pro Synergy. Loot/salvage problem solved, and none of your time wasted picking up loot when you could be completing missions faster (for higher ISK/hr from the agent's rewards) or blowing stuff up (to complete missions faster since you're not slow-boating around picking up junk).
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Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
18
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Posted - 2015.04.09 22:38:31 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:I might be wrong but this thread reads like something Lar Tadaruwa would write. Anybody remembers that dude from last year?
after his last post it-¦s definatly Lar. ...so where is my damn tin foil hat?.....
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Hakaari Inkuran
State War Academy Caldari State
219
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Posted - 2015.04.09 22:56:23 -
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Agreed this is Lar. I used to report all his posts |
Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
18
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Posted - 2015.04.09 23:11:14 -
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no dont do this, because he has questions and dont started a new blog on eo.
we should only think about his loot problem. nothing else. as mara rinn stated before pro synergy is a valid option. |
Veine Miromme
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2015.04.09 23:17:07 -
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lol, I didn't read this yet but I got my $80 back and another $80 on top.
+ Light and medium drones have less DPS but kill frigate faster than Sentry and are hard enough to hit to miss.
I used to loot in a trasher which is pretty cheap. I will look at which frigate have the most low slots to fit extra Expanded Cargohold. |
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Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
18
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Posted - 2015.04.09 23:22:33 -
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still the magnate with cargoholds and cargorigs are the way to go for that ~ 1750 cargohold |
pushdogg
Hell's Portals Thank You Come Again
7
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Posted - 2015.04.10 02:12:17 -
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im not going to waste the time that the others have explaining to you why your logic is flawed.
but i will leave this.
1. your corp has let you down, ditch those scrubs.
2. the advice in this post is sound, very sound.
3. blops skills arent going to help your fit, at all.
4. get a better corp, they will talk sense into you, or kick you. which is good on them.
5. i will keep an eye on your loss board, im not going to call it a killboard because your not going to kill anything with your logic, gameplay style, or fit.
6. refer to number 1
7. profit.
edit: thought about #6. |
Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
278
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Posted - 2015.04.10 17:02:56 -
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Ploing wrote:i believe he is Lar Tadaruwa Thanks, I was getting ready to go search for this name.
Veine Miromme wrote:So, I will try to get a Viator to haul my loot and I hope it will be faster. However, I'm aware that it will cause more lag until I get a second internet connection and computer to fully multi-box. A second monitor is a big help in multi-boxing, but you certainly don't need another internet connection or computer. A noctis might be more useful than a Viator depending on what space you are operating in.
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Veine Miromme
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
14
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Posted - 2015.04.11 15:48:48 -
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pushdogg wrote:im not going to waste the time that the others have explaining to you why your logic is flawed.
but i will leave this.
1. your corp has let you down, ditch those scrubs.
2. the advice in this post is sound, very sound.
3. blops skills arent going to help your fit, at all.
4. get a better corp, they will talk sense into you, or kick you. which is good on them.
5. i will keep an eye on your loss board, im not going to call it a killboard because your not going to kill anything with your logic, gameplay style, or fit.
6. refer to number 1
7. profit.
edit: thought about #6. I saved some time by not replying as fast as I could. I am preparing replies to all the other posts. I also electronically saved my reply(ies), for until when I will have the time to post them... (I wish I'd have enough to copyright them for my own use, to prevent their loss.)
My logic is good, and in fact I am a logical person.
Statement 1. your corp has let you down, ditch those scrubs. - [sic] 1. I wasn't in a corp. In fact, I was, but it was before you posted this, and it wasn't because they were scrubs. The reasons were, they got wardecked, and I had to go through high sec. Otherwise, I'd have had to spend 10m ISK more to get some skill books delivered, or pay more for them.
My pilot joined a corp on 2015-03-31 21:11 and left 2015-04-09 01:37 (0y 9d) after 9 days. (Also before your post.)
Statement 2. the advice in this post is sound, very sound.[/i] - [sic] Very sound to you, or at least, so you stated. What is the point if it is only going to mislead some new players to make them prey to pirates? Perhaps it would help your economy... I am not too sure as to how many active new players are joining, and the age demo and so on. It may be that I prefer to use Ad Verbatim statements than take my data out of context. (It is obviously what data mining is for...)
Statement 3. blops skills arent going to help your fit, at all. - [sic] The blops skills aren't to help my fit, at all. I started this pilot to be a Black Ops pilot since I already have a fitted Covert fleet ready to jump. The reason I could do (though I don't at this time) and mostly did Mission with a Dominix is that it's required. Many of the skills required to fly a Dominix are transferable to a Black Ops ship. Of course, some skills are better suited to fly a Dominix than to reach Black Ops capability. However, the last statement above is not the goal. The objective I stated, while still actively pursuing the goal is to improve looting or salvaging.
Statement 4. get a better corp, they will talk sense into you, or kick you. which is good on them. - [sic] I have my own corp and I'm about to start my own alliance. I also work on starting a coalition of merchants.
Statement 5. i will keep an eye on your loss board, im not going to call it a killboard because your not going to kill anything with your logic, gameplay style, or fit. - [sic] Killboard has nothing to do with looting for missions. I do get bounties from killing NPC pirates which can give me escalations. I never had one escalation yet, or if I did have one in my Expedition tab, I never noticed yet.
Statement 6. refer to number 1 - [sic] See response 1.
Statement 7. profit. I'm not going to put sic on 7. since I do profit 45 to 160 times more up to 10,000% ^ 2 more than the offers posted, not including this forum (only, but also this forum). I am going to compare the exact amounts of difference if any per suggestions and report.
I don't want to suggest new players to get shiny fit for pirates to loot them while they mission. I don't want to waste new players time by suggesting them T2 fits. I only offered some suggestion so they can get to mission level 4 fast and make a few millions per missions. The loot part of the deal is fairly important as it can slow the rate of income if errors are made.
It also allows them to increase their standings. I have never reached 8.0 standing to be able to install Jump Clones yet. My highest standing was 5.0 which allows for level 4 missions.
Since the loot is there and the wrecks have some rewards , I don't leave them to others without good reasons or testing. |
Schmata Bastanold
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
3029
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Posted - 2015.04.11 20:22:24 -
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Oh Lar, I've missed you...
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Ploing
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
19
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Posted - 2015.04.11 22:17:59 -
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Veine Miromme wrote: I do get bounties from killing NPC pirates which can give me escalations. I never had one escalation yet, or if I did have one in my Expedition tab, I never noticed yet.
Lar ....+ñhm Veine you will never get escalations from missions btw. |
Veine Miromme
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2015.04.12 01:39:19 -
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Ploing wrote:Veine Miromme wrote: I do get bounties from killing NPC pirates which can give me escalations. I never had one escalation yet, or if I did have one in my Expedition tab, I never noticed yet.
Lar ....+ñhm Veine you will never get escalations from missions btw. Correct, thank you for promptly mentioning it.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Escalating_encounters https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/NPTS_-_Combat_Sites_and_Escalation http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1279408 https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Category:Expeditions
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Swidgen
Republic University Minmatar Republic
154
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Posted - 2015.04.13 04:22:15 -
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Ploing wrote:i believe he is Lar Tadaruwa It is. Veine = Lar = Jacus = Vis = Oiras. Very easy to spot. Next up: teh accusations of psychological warfare.
Guys like this should be encouraged to keep buying PLEX from CCP! Keeps the hamsters happy. |
Schmata Bastanold
Imperial Collective Unsettled.
3031
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Posted - 2015.04.13 04:49:33 -
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Heh, there's already C&P thread about scams against him. With reference to Sion's fanfest presentation. My god, the connections that dude can see... I feel so inadequate.
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Wills Trading ALT
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.04.14 07:15:32 -
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I'm not going to bother reading all of the thread, but barely no one here knows what they're talking about. Train for a Marauder, not a Black Ops. You are doing PvE, and Blops are used for PvP, and even then, most groups just use them for their bridge ability. I suggest going for a Golem, those things are pretty nice for missions. |
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Brutus Utama
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
14
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Posted - 2015.04.14 10:54:44 -
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A Domi should have no issues running level 4's i used to run them in a gila without an issues.... dont mix weapons get T2 tank Get T2 Sentries put a Blops off untill you can fly a BS properly i would shield tank the domi and micro jump once you land to get range....
using a shield tank allows you more DPS, a few hardners and a shield booster should give you no issues.... T2 sentries make a HUGE difference to your DPS... also for level 4 missions a Tengu is probably better than a Blops BS anyway...
GO T2 dont bother with your BLOPS yet get a T2 tank if you undock a Blops BS without a T2 tank it will die anyway so... |
Veine Miromme
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.04.14 11:47:07 -
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How am I supposed to carry the loot? Let alone Rekt it and get the loot and Rekt?
Edit: My Standing (required for Mission Acceptance) just went back up to 4.99 SOE now, only by sharing + 3 or 4 solo.
Most Level 3 and level 4 mission require over 200 ^m3 of cargo space up to over 500 m^3... |
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