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Miss Everest
Elysium Accord
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Posted - 2015.04.13 01:06:21 -
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Defender missiles as a utility HS.
Why? No one uses Defense missiles and what they are sounds more like a utility then anything else.
Really? No one, if you do your lying, uses Defender missiles. Potentially they could be cool but normally no one uses them.
I can already see the people telling me how stupid I am for saying this. But really do YOU use them?
**Edit**
Would also be nice if you just activated them and they stayed on till all used up... having to guess when missiles are coming in and time then is not helping their case... |
Anhenka
Infinite Point
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2015.04.13 01:24:29 -
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I would rather have any non cloak highslot object over a defender missile.
Small smarty on a BS? Ok. Salvager? Cool. Passive targeter? Might as well. Entosis link? Sov for the sov throne. Neut? Great.
Missile launcher that can only take out one light missile or rocket on each longish cycle, and that takes up a slot and PG I would otherwise want to use?
Useful only as a heat sink.
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Miss Everest
Elysium Accord
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Posted - 2015.04.13 01:38:41 -
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Anhenka wrote:I would rather have any non cloak highslot object over a defender missile.
Small smarty on a BS? Ok. Salvager? Cool. Passive targeter? Might as well. Entosis link? Sov for the sov throne. Neut? Great.
Missile launcher that can only take out one light missile or rocket on each longish cycle, and that takes up a slot and PG I would otherwise want to use?
Useful only as a heat sink.
Completely agree... I think it should be modified and brought up to reality... and maybe not against JUST missiles... or taken out like FoF and Fighter Assist. |
Hopelesshobo
Tactical Nuclear Penguin's
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Posted - 2015.04.13 02:44:01 -
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Miss Everest wrote:[quote=Anhenka]or taken out like FoF and Fighter Assist.
FOF are still in the game. See Auto Targeting Missiles.
Anyways, I agree they are underwhelming, but I'm not sure how to buff them or change them while still maintaining their core concept without making them stupid OP and become a mandatory fit on a utility high slot.
Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012.
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Miss Everest
Elysium Accord
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Posted - 2015.04.13 03:07:10 -
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Hopelesshobo wrote:Miss Everest wrote:[quote=Anhenka]or taken out like FoF and Fighter Assist. FOF are still in the game. See Auto Targeting Missiles. Anyways, I agree they are underwhelming, but I'm not sure how to buff them or change them while still maintaining their core concept without making them stupid OP and become a mandatory fit on a utility high slot.
Wow... that should say something that some, cause I am sure I am not alone especially for Null/WH dwellers, that they still existed let alone the Defender.
On a side not why not get rid of them and or put them together with say Smartbombs with scripts or something.
Either way these two things seem to be essentially useless. (Not calling smartbombs useless)
I still think a discussion should be made about these things.
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I would not want a 100% effective thing. But maybe a 35-50% effective module maybe. Otherwise it breaks everything. |
Cade Windstalker
Donohue Enterprises
Ad-Astra
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Posted - 2015.04.13 04:15:01 -
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Defender Missiles are intentionally a niche system. That's how they're designed and they're fine that way. They have a very few uses for mitigating incoming DPS in null sites, that's it. They're fine, they don't need a buff. A PvP defender is called a Smartbomb. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:42:25 -
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Miss Everest wrote:Hopelesshobo wrote:[quote=Miss Everest][quote=Anhenka]or taken out like FoF and Fighter Assist. FOF are still in the game. See Auto Targeting Missiles. Anyways, I agree they are underwhelming, but I'm not sure how to buff them or change them while still maintaining their core concept without making them stupid OP and become a mandatory fit on a utility high slot.
Wow... that should say something that some, cause I am sure I am not alone especially for Null/WH dwellers, that they still existed let alone the Defender.
On a side not why not get rid of them and or put them together with say Smartbombs with scripts or something.
Either way these two things seem to be essentially useless.[quote]
I used to live in null and now live in WH space
as far as the F.O.F go they are still very useful if you (and your fleet) know how to use them particularly to take out damps/ecm
i normally carry 2 full loads of FoF unless i know i will need them then i will bring more
Fuel block colors? Missiles for Caldari T3? Corp Stasis
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