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Qalten
Riftwalkers
24
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Posted - 2015.04.13 05:15:16 -
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I've returned!
I've updated the IGB POS Planner to 0.58 and with it the recent (ish) changes to POS modules, including removing the Medium Refining Array and adding the Compression and Faction Component Assembly Arrays.
http://eve.1019.net/pos/
Over the next week or so I'll be implementing some deeper changes, such as UI optimization and what not.
Let me know if you see any mistakes, and have any suggestions for future updates!
Thank you to everyone who's contacted me about the tool, and I hope the time it was out of date wasn't enough to deter anyone from using it.
Previous Threads (for nostalgia's sake): 2012-13 Thread 2010/11 2009 2005-2009 |

Sir HappyPants
Aperture Harmonics K162
94
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Posted - 2015.04.13 19:50:07 -
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Thanks for this planner! I use it all the time.
Just a semantics thing, but I believe the X-Large Ship Assembly Array has been renamed to Capital Ship Assembly Array and the 'old' CSAA has been renamed to Supercapital Ship Assembly Array. Also the XLSMA no longer needs sov upgrades to anchor, I believe it's just confined to nullsec and wspace now.
Welcome back to Eve and thanks again for your planning tool!
Member of the #TweetFleet @thisurlnotfound
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Qalten
Riftwalkers
27
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Posted - 2015.04.13 20:09:04 -
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Updates for 0.60 today
*Implemented Storage Total for available storage from Corporate, Ship and Personal Hangar Arrays *Added Overview Icons for Modules *Corrected Updated Module Names *General UI Tweaks
Sir HappyPants wrote:Thanks for this planner! I use it all the time.
Just a semantics thing, but I believe the X-Large Ship Assembly Array has been renamed to Capital Ship Assembly Array and the 'old' CSAA has been renamed to Supercapital Ship Assembly Array. Also the XLSMA no longer needs sov upgrades to anchor, I believe it's just confined to nullsec and wspace now.
Welcome back to Eve and thanks again for your planning tool!
Ah, thank you for those corrections, I missed those, and just updated them accordingly!
As for XLSMA (now Supercap) needing the sov upgrade, it still shows as requiring it in the in-game info, can you point me to something that suggests that's no longer actually in place? I'm certainly not in a position to go anchor one right now  |

Crynsos Cealion
Facta.Non.Verba The Obsidian Front
24
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Posted - 2015.04.14 00:29:44 -
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Great to see this tool getting some updates again, I like it and use it a lot, despite it being oudated for as long as I've known it.
Don't forget to add some proper pricing information (especially for faction mods which are all at 0 atm) and to change the Moon Harvester from <0.4 to <0.5 Might also be a good idea to make the core tower a clearly visible flexible option, so that anyone can move whole setups made for one tower type to a different one and then just adjust it according to the fitting limits. |

Qalten
Riftwalkers
27
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Posted - 2015.04.14 01:40:35 -
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Crynsos Cealion wrote:Great to see this tool getting some updates again, I like it and use it a lot, despite it being oudated for as long as I've known it. That's awesome to hear, apologies for it being outdated for so long 
Crynsos Cealion wrote:Don't forget to add some proper pricing information (especially for faction mods which are all at 0 atm) This is something I've been sort of grappling with. When I first started the Planner, I was using the base material prices that CCP provided way back when for the structures. Now, things are much more fluid as the modules are produced by players, and prices can vary (somewhat) especially with the faction modules. Without me manually inputting the prices every so often to help compensate, I wonder if it's even worth representing the values of modules at all since I really can't offer a valid price quote. Maybe there's a way I can link to another site that does; I'm open to suggestions on that front.
Crynsos Cealion wrote:and to change the Moon Harvester from <0.4 to <0.5 Might also be a good idea to make the core tower a clearly visible flexible option, so that anyone can move whole setups made for one tower type to a different one and then just adjust it according to the fitting limits. I've corrected the Moon Harvesters security restrictions. As for making the CT flexible, that's a really great idea, and I'll work on implementing that in the near future.
Thanks for the feedback  |

Adarnof
Free Trade Monopoly You Are Being Monitored
84
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Posted - 2015.04.14 19:35:42 -
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Thanks for keeping this lifesaving tool going!
One suggestion, reporting two values for available storage: one for SMA totals, and another for all other hangars. |

Crynsos Cealion
Facta.Non.Verba The Obsidian Front
24
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Posted - 2015.04.14 20:40:02 -
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Qalten wrote:Crynsos Cealion wrote:Don't forget to add some proper pricing information (especially for faction mods which are all at 0 atm) This is something I've been sort of grappling with. When I first started the Planner, I was using the base material prices that CCP provided way back when for the structures. Now, things are much more fluid as the modules are produced by players, and prices can vary (somewhat) especially with the faction modules. Without me manually inputting the prices every so often to help compensate, I wonder if it's even worth representing the values of modules at all since I really can't offer a valid price quote. Maybe there's a way I can link to another site that does; I'm open to suggestions on that front.
Eve-Central usually provides automatic price updates for a variety of tools, such as EFT and could be probably used here as well if you know how to do so. May even be possible to do it directly via the CREST API now, as I heard the market data is already available via that.
As a simpler variation, you could link to the Eve-Central pages for the individual items. |

Selaria Unbertable
POS Mortem Renegades Of Silence
78
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Posted - 2015.04.14 20:44:54 -
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Qalten wrote:I've returned! I've updated the IGB POS Planner to 0.58 and with it the recent (ish) changes to POS modules, including removing the Medium Refining Array and adding the Personal Storage, Compression and Thukker Component Assembly Arrays. http://eve.1019.net/pos/
Over the next week or so I'll be implementing some deeper changes, such as UI optimization and what not. Let me know if you see any mistakes, and have any suggestions for future updates! Thank you to everyone who's contacted me about the tool, and I hope the time it was out of date wasn't enough to deter anyone from using it. Previous Threads (for nostalgia's sake): 2012-13 Thread2010/1120092005-2009
Good to see you back, always liked to use that tool. o/ |

Selaria Unbertable
POS Mortem Renegades Of Silence
78
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Posted - 2015.04.14 20:53:36 -
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Crynsos Cealion wrote:Qalten wrote:Crynsos Cealion wrote:Don't forget to add some proper pricing information (especially for faction mods which are all at 0 atm) This is something I've been sort of grappling with. When I first started the Planner, I was using the base material prices that CCP provided way back when for the structures. Now, things are much more fluid as the modules are produced by players, and prices can vary (somewhat) especially with the faction modules. Without me manually inputting the prices every so often to help compensate, I wonder if it's even worth representing the values of modules at all since I really can't offer a valid price quote. Maybe there's a way I can link to another site that does; I'm open to suggestions on that front. Eve-Central usually provides automatic price updates for a variety of tools, such as EFT and could be probably used here as well if you know how to do so. May even be possible to do it directly via the CREST API now, as I heard the market data is already available via that. As a simpler variation, you could link to the Eve-Central pages for the individual items.
Yes, eve-central should suffice for the start. Put up a note for users, and they should be ok with that. Market history as well as market orders are available via CREST, the latter requires a you to register your app on https://developers.eveonline.com. Not sure if the latter is as good as eve-central, which offers a better aggregation imho. Both should do to provide users a rough estimate on how much their setup will cost. |

Qalten
Riftwalkers
30
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Posted - 2015.04.15 15:00:21 -
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Update for version 0.62:
*Implemented Updated Tower and Module Price evaluations, imported via EVE-Central market API. Prices are cached for 12 hours. *Added Ability to Swap Current Tower *Rearranged UI Elements for better presentation
Thanks for all the feedback in regards to the price evaluations. I went ahead and implemented methods for pulling from the EVE Central market API, but only if a particular tower or module hasn't been price checked in over 12 hours to help prevent load on their servers. I'm pulling the lower-end sell prices from The Forge region, and hopefully this will result in useful price estimations.
Let me know if anyone encounters any errors, bugs, or has further suggestions! |

probag Bear
Xiong Offices
69
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Posted - 2015.04.15 17:33:04 -
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\o !
1. Could you please include faction POS mods as well? I switched from your POS planner to a self-built one a while back, and the only reason I did so is because faction POS mods are just so wildly different from regular mods (both in fitting and in their main stats).
2. Since you've last updated the site, tests have been carried out to confirm the fact that POS Shield Hardeners use the same stacking bonus penalties as ship shield hardeners, and that the resistances displayed in-game (and hence on your site) are in fact just wrong. |

Maxx Ibanez
Tactical Black
4
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Posted - 2015.04.15 18:55:34 -
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sooo.... can we get things like this fixed?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2spdua/manymost_pos_fitting_tools_not_to_mention_the/
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5409022
i know it's still wrong ingame, but it's lying to you. |

Coelomate
The Suicide Kings Black Legion.
48
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Posted - 2015.04.15 19:32:29 -
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Edit: oops, looks like a lot of other people flagged this already - sorry to add to the noise!
- - - original post - - -
Cool to see you updating this!
Any chance you could fix the shield hardening array resistance stacking bug? Your tool matches the in-game display, but both erroneously fail to account for stacking penalties. Simple testing proves that the arrays are subject to normal stacking penalties.
See these links for more information and proof:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5409022#post5409022
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2sq8bv/starbase_hardeners_stacking_incorrectly_confirmed/
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2spdua/manymost_pos_fitting_tools_not_to_mention_the/
Love,
~Coelomate
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Qalten
Riftwalkers
32
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Posted - 2015.04.15 19:48:01 -
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probag Bear wrote:\o !
1. Could you please include faction POS mods as well? I switched from your POS planner to a self-built one a while back, and the only reason I did so is because faction POS mods are just so wildly different from regular mods (both in fitting and in their main stats). Edit: I can write up a query to just grab all POS mod stats from the database dump for you, if the issue is that you're inserting them by hand. If we don't have any programming languages in common I can just make it an .exe.. Faction mods should be available to add, just click the "Include Faction Mods" link and that should add them all to the dropdowns. Let me know if you're not able to do this.
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Qalten
Riftwalkers
32
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Posted - 2015.04.15 19:48:48 -
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As for the shield hardener math, I will absolutely look at the links provided and adjust the calculations with the planner, and let you guys know when that is complete. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction! |

Kopaka Newton
Space Rocks Industries Solyaris Chtonium
4
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Posted - 2015.04.15 19:56:16 -
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Hi,
Sorry if that has been asked already, but having an estimated price for the required fuel would be very nice.
Also, I hope you don't mind, when I saw the changelog this morning I was pretty happy to see recent updates so I posted it on reddit.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/32p99z/igb_pos_planner_is_being_updated_o/ |

probag Bear
Xiong Offices
69
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Posted - 2015.04.15 20:22:58 -
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Qalten wrote:probag Bear wrote:\o !
1. Could you please include faction POS mods as well? I switched from your POS planner to a self-built one a while back, and the only reason I did so is because faction POS mods are just so wildly different from regular mods (both in fitting and in their main stats). Edit: I can write up a query to just grab all POS mod stats from the database dump for you, if the issue is that you're inserting them by hand. If we don't have any programming languages in common I can just make it an .exe.. Faction mods should be available to add, just click the "Include Faction Mods" link and that should add them all to the dropdowns. Let me know if you're not able to do this.
Whoops. Time to nuke my tool then. My bad. |

Qalten
Riftwalkers
32
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Posted - 2015.04.15 21:54:06 -
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Update for 0.63:
*Modified shield hardener calculations to be in line with actual in-game stacking penalties per EVE community research *Provides estimated fuel costs for fuel duration being calculated
Please let me know if the math roughly works out to what the community estimates have provided, from my initial testing it seems to be correct, but I mine might be slightly off. |

Darvids0n
Mammoth Beetle
5
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Posted - 2015.04.16 08:10:14 -
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Thanks for updating the POS planner!
I noticed there's a bug when you add a new module, it seems to remove all your offline modules (even after building the URL manually).
Apart from that, it's working well :) |

Maxx Ibanez
Tactical Black
4
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Posted - 2015.04.16 12:23:33 -
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seems to be working great :) thanks for your hard work into this tool. i've put a lot of time into using it and it's great to see it getting updated again! |

Chigiku
Perkone Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2015.04.16 13:56:09 -
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Hey there, i'm quite happy the tools got updated, i use it since the end of 2013 and always like it.
edit : ok i read it wrong my mistake ( the minmatar pos has a higher base em resist hence the close to site resist pre math change)
Thanks again for that nice tool =) |

Qalten
Riftwalkers
32
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Posted - 2015.04.16 14:05:21 -
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Darvids0n wrote:Thanks for updating the POS planner!
I noticed there's a bug when you add a new module, it seems to remove all your offline modules (even after building the URL manually).
Apart from that, it's working well :)
Whoops, sorry about that! This has been fixed as of this post :) |

Karamba PL
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
0
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Posted - 2015.04.17 09:53:52 -
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Hello
resist are not working correctly
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Qalten
Riftwalkers
32
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Posted - 2015.04.17 16:42:50 -
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Karamba PL wrote:Hello
resist are not working correctly
Can you elaborate? Are they not working according to the newly implemented values the community has discovered, or the previous implementation, or something else? |

Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
1
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Posted - 2015.04.21 04:35:25 -
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Qalten wrote:Darvids0n wrote:Thanks for updating the POS planner!
I noticed there's a bug when you add a new module, it seems to remove all your offline modules (even after building the URL manually).
Apart from that, it's working well :) Whoops, sorry about that! This has been fixed as of this post :) Seems to be working correctly for adding new modules, but I just tried changing the tower while some modules were offlined, and they disappeared.
Great tool, btw! Thanks for building and updating it. |

Qalten
Riftwalkers
33
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:20:49 -
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Alicia Dnari wrote:Seems to be working correctly for adding new modules, but I just tried changing the tower while some modules were offlined, and they disappeared. Great tool, btw! Thanks for building and updating it. 
Ah, double whoops. That's been fixed. Thanks for the heads up! |

Karamba PL
Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN
0
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Posted - 2015.04.22 11:54:30 -
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Qalten wrote:Karamba PL wrote:Hello
resist are not working correctly
Can you elaborate? Are they not working according to the newly implemented values the community has discovered, or the previous implementation, or something else?
Example:
Right now:
Ammar Control tower large with 4x Photon Scattering should have resist: 68% Program shows: 53%
Before update works correctly
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Coelomate Tian
The Suicide Kings Black Legion.
7
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Posted - 2015.04.27 19:01:30 -
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Karamba PL wrote:Qalten wrote:Karamba PL wrote:Hello
resist are not working correctly
Can you elaborate? Are they not working according to the newly implemented values the community has discovered, or the previous implementation, or something else? Example: Right now: Ammar Control tower large with 4x Photon Scattering should have resist: 68% Program shows: 53% Before update works correctly
Check the links earlier in this thread - it's the game that's bugged, I believe the IGB POS planner has been updated to display the correct resistance amounts.
The game incorrectly displays resistances as though no stacking penalty applies, but testing and reviewing logs proves shield hardening arrays are subject to normal stacking penalties.
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Selaria Unbertable
POS Mortem Renegades Of Silence
78
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Posted - 2015.04.28 11:26:22 -
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Current version looks good. However, one thing: Adding assembly arrays or labs displays manufacturing capabilities with a number of slots. Those were removed, neither assembly arrays nor laboratories (same with stations and outposts) have a limitation of jobs anymore. You can now run as many jobs as you like in them. |

Wreck It
Unlimited Potential
0
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Posted - 2015.04.28 13:36:49 -
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Thank you SO MUCH for updating this invaluable tool!
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Nongrat
MOON 437 Skyfire.
2
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Posted - 2015.04.30 07:53:58 -
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Hi. Thanks a lot for updating this tool!
Is it possible to make "add one" button in added modules? Such as "remove one" (X) button there. |

Qalten
Riftwalkers
35
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Posted - 2015.05.01 00:27:21 -
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Selaria Unbertable wrote:Current version looks good. However, one thing: Adding assembly arrays or labs displays manufacturing capabilities with a number of slots. Those were removed, neither assembly arrays nor laboratories (same with stations and outposts) have a limitation of jobs anymore. You can now run as many jobs as you like in them.
Oh, right. Forgot they did that for POS modules as well. I've removed the extraneous information! |

vil MbIIIIb
DoomGuards
5
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Posted - 2015.05.05 00:16:34 -
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Good work. Thank you. little wrong - icon in CT Chart (screenshot) |

Barking Spiders
Viagra St0rm
0
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Posted - 2015.05.13 23:00:59 -
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Qalten
Thank you for updating this great tool! I have used it for years even though it was a little outdated. I was wondering if you could update both the Mobile Laboratory and the Mobile Laboratory - Hyasyoda. Both were to the following
Mobile Laboratory was changed to Design Laboratory and 120,000 mw (PWG) and 600 tf
Mobile Laboratory - Hyasyoda was changed to Hyasyoda Research laboratory and 110,000 (PWG) and 600 tf
Thank You
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Degnar Oskold
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
158
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Posted - 2015.05.14 14:22:14 -
[35] - Quote
Thanks for making such a great tool. I've used it extensively over the last 2 weeks, am loving it. |

Pook600
Defiance LLC Praetorian Directorate
1
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Posted - 2015.05.15 20:34:51 -
[36] - Quote
Coelomate Tian wrote:Karamba PL wrote:Qalten wrote:Karamba PL wrote:Hello
resist are not working correctly
Can you elaborate? Are they not working according to the newly implemented values the community has discovered, or the previous implementation, or something else? Example: Right now: Ammar Control tower large with 4x Photon Scattering should have resist: 68% Program shows: 53% Before update works correctly Check the links earlier in this thread - it's the game that's bugged, I believe the IGB POS planner has been updated to display the correct resistance amounts. The game incorrectly displays resistances as though no stacking penalty applies, but testing and reviewing logs proves shield hardening arrays are subject to normal stacking penalties.
DUDE! Thanks for this info! We were wasting POS space with extra unneeded hardeners. |

Quiggle Queue
POS Party Low-Class
32
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Posted - 2015.06.22 18:37:29 -
[37] - Quote
Great tool, I think this item is no longer in the game though, but it is still in the planner.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Mobile_Laboratory |

Pappy5
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Ocularis Inferno
0
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Posted - 2015.07.08 14:13:01 -
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Hey There, I'm designing my first POS and found that I had a hard time comparing the bonuses of each pos. I see a need for a table with the racial bonuses of using each tower. for example, this excerpt from Evelopedia for Gallente :
Racial Bonuses: 25% bonus to Hybrid Sentry Damage 100% bonus to Silo Cargo Capacity
I think this could easily be incorporated into the Control Tower Comparison chart located here : http://eve.1019.net/pos/index.php?indx=ct
If you would like I'll do the copy work to make this happen. Is this project on Github? |

Edward Sanmora
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters Ocularis Inferno
2
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Posted - 2015.07.18 05:27:24 -
[39] - Quote
Recently setup a large Gallente POS with 3 Explosion Dampening Array, and on Photon Array. The in game stats say 35% Photon, 50% Ballistic, 57% Explosion, 25% heat. However the tool lists 49% for Explosion. |

Serenit Adoulin
Stille Gewalt Dead Terrorists
35
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Posted - 2015.08.22 11:42:36 -
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Are there plans to updated the laboratory data ?
It is quite confusing how it is atm. |

Dinarious Nabali
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.09.10 04:26:59 -
[41] - Quote
Would it be possible to make an export function, that allows you to export it in some form of plain that Evepraisal understands? |

Ix Method
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
469
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Posted - 2015.10.03 09:54:06 -
[42] - Quote
Serenit Adoulin wrote:Are there plans to updated the laboratory data ?
It is quite confusing how it is atm. +1. It's the one thing stopping this from being the best of all things 
Travelling at the speed of love.
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Solindar Imori
Bunyip Munitions
0
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Posted - 2015.10.04 20:24:15 -
[43] - Quote
Hi Qalten, Good work with this planning tool. Love it! Is there anywhere we can edit the price of the modules with the market prices or key in our own values? It would help a lot. 
Cheers! Solindar |

Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire Great Blue Balls of Fire
663
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Posted - 2015.10.24 02:23:35 -
[44] - Quote
Great tool! Would love to see a dscan tool for pos. You dscan a pos and copy past results in to see resists/dps etc.
Blue-Fire Best Fire
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Oxigun
Ascendant Logistics The Otherworld
28
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Posted - 2015.10.27 06:57:32 -
[45] - Quote
Would it be possible to have a "copy to clipboard" button to make a shopping list? |

Ransom Odunen
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services The WINGSPAN Logo Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.12.01 01:37:39 -
[46] - Quote
Aquila Sagitta wrote:Great tool! Would love to see a dscan tool for pos. You dscan a pos and copy past results in to see resists/dps etc.
+1 |

Bearcastle
Bionesis Technologies
15
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Posted - 2015.12.20 12:51:19 -
[47] - Quote
Are you planing to do the same for Citadel ? |

Ginger Barbarella
2068
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Posted - 2015.12.22 00:07:41 -
[48] - Quote
Bearcastle wrote:Are you planing to do the same for Citadel ?
This....
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
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Ventox Amarrian
North Star Exploration Industries
0
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Posted - 2016.01.05 04:58:06 -
[49] - Quote
I don't see "Research" Lab & "Design Lab" ??? |

Techno36
Dirt 'n' Glitter Local Is Primary
29
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Posted - 2016.03.05 01:55:17 -
[50] - Quote
Change the evelopedia links to euni wiki links.
rip evelopedia |

Qalten
Riftwalkers
36
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Posted - 2016.05.08 20:01:54 -
[51] - Quote
With the Citadels expansion, I'm back in game, and updating the POS tool.
I've already updated the Laboratory names, and will start looking into the recent suggestions (dscan copying, shopping lists, EVElopedia links).
Any other issues that need addressing? As far as a Citadel Planner, we'll just have to see... |

Qalten
Riftwalkers
36
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Posted - 2016.05.10 16:23:39 -
[52] - Quote
I've updated the POS Planner to include:
- Ability to paste in directional scan text or plain text to instantly build a POS configuration
- An option for displaying your items in a plain "shopping list" format
- Various UI fixes
Let me know what you think! |

Alicia Dnari
Dnari Mining and Manufacturing
5
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Posted - 2016.05.18 00:05:52 -
[53] - Quote
My understanding is that Evelopedia is dead (CCP dropped it). As suggested above, links to the Uni-wiki would be good. |
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