Hello guys,

I will throw my 2 cents in here X1 terribad FC \o

I was the FC for most of the bash and it was my first time FCing such an op...it's not that tricky every time is it?!?!? :-o

It was difficult really, we knew that the Dust modifier had been swinging thru-ought the day so when the system went vulnerable I chose to build a buffer of Plexes instead of immediately attacking whilst you were out. Perhaps a mistake, in addition before your guys started harassing us we had visitors from Already Disbanded. One of their FC's is an ex Winmatar guy who still holds a grudge and is happy to use his corp mates as a crutch to prop up the Amarr Militia. Whether the Amarr know this or not the effect is the same every I-HUB bash recently we have to see them off or get forced out of the system whilst they bodyguard 24th IC guys to d-plex.

Anyway by the time we had countered them you were back and ready to go, I have to say I'm a bit stunned at how deadly Mystical Might is in that ******** Garmur! Pulling in the region of 8,000 kmps we really couldn't counter it. Then we started having the issue of some Periphery guys trolling us by bodyguarding their 24th IC alts and having them run Plexes. It took me a little bit of time to figure that out as your guys appears to be killing Anarr Militia as well during the bash. Anyway once a plex or two got capped the Dust modifier started swinging and we lost our progress due to the lost buffer.

So then more of your guys started harassing the bash after you logged, anyway we ultimately had to ship up to Cruisers w logi to counter Mysticals Garmur etc which hurt our dps a lot. Anyway your guys got organised and shipped up to counter - breaking our reps etc.

We were still under threat of Dust swinging again and knew someone had an Amarr alt being baby sat running Plexes despite the heroic efforts of our plex runners in frigates. So we had to stay at the hub, anyway whenever we shiped down out came the jury Garmur etc and when're we shipped back up again it was Long Range Cerberuses etc

We knew we were running low on time and then a PY-RE fleet show up and start running the other Plexes with Mystical egging them on in local. After seeing that The Periphery were going to be Plexing themselves and helping a PY-RE fleet plex in the system without interference we called it a night at 2AM.

It did appear that The Periphery were deliberately forming to counter our bash and certainly later on were certainly not engaging the Amarr. It can be a bit frustrating that the ex-Amarr guys give a helping hand to their old comrades whilst the ex-Minnie's either leave the WZ or go full pirate killing indescriminaty.

Anyway I have apologised to my Hoplite comrades for screwing it up and that apology extends to our allies who came and helped. If anyone has any advice as to his to do better next time let me know. I am taking a rest from EVE for a little bit - You Guys have litterally knocked me into a few days from now! Gf to The Periphery I know you are just playing the game. Thanks to Agha and Harkon for taking over at times when I became too unstuck! I will hopefully be back soon, I may even FC again...in a quiet system...without stations....or pirates....on a Timezone where no one is awake! o7

Hello guys,

You guys should just do what Iron Oxide and a few other former MinMil groups did and join in with GalMil piling onto an overmatched and outnumbered CalMil. Get those good vibes again beating a dead horse in a wz quickly slanting to one militia, while squaring off regularly with the local pirates and watching the other militia wither and die.

Even better, I hear lp is way more lucrative in GalMil. So win win for everyone!

Well, not CalMil, but the Gals have given up the concern trolling about having a healthy opposing militia, happily enjoying bigger ship content against the pirate entities, while regularly taunting about CalMil "blobbing" and yet constantly upshipping above anything CalMil can bring in almost all situations. Not to mention complaining that CalMil doesn't live in the warzone, yet actively sieging and removing any attempt for us to do just that (for the most recent examples, look at Rakapas and currently Kehjari).

Im sure GalMil would love having you all with them!

lmao talk about deflecting blame

Don't be mad. You guys are doing pretty well defending your systems lately. And if we could bet on such things, I'd pick you guys over Amarr and Minmatar any day of the week(and the numbers would back me up).

Edit:
Also, you guys don't really live in Kehjari, you just show up when the contested level gets high. And I'm not sure you guys really lived in Rakapas either.

What else? Yeah, I'll take the hit on my isk/lp ratio if it means we get more good corps into Gallente Militia.

As for PY-RE tell your FC (Mystical Might) gf...

damn those pirates. shooting things in their home systems.

damn those pirates. shooting things in their home systems.

The way this thread is going I'm starting to think that Amarr militia have spent too much time staring at their lasers...

I get the sense that people are taking this too seriously, and also looking for somebody other than themselves to blame. Would our Minmatar fleet have taken the hub if opposition wasn't present? Yeah, certainly. But there was opposition. In the form of a single stabbed amarr executioner running plexes, who happeend to take the system out of vulnerable on us even, and maybe sixish pirate pilots.

With our fleet of 20-30 or more, and being so lose to a staging location, we should have been able to reship into something more serious, and to shut them down completely. But we didn't, we kept trying the same old thing, and we continued to lose pilots for it. What does this tell you? It tells me that we need a better capacity to ship up to the forces that might oppose us. We wouldn't have needed very much to do it. just the willingness to do it.

Instead of blaming Periphery, or accusing them of coordinating with Amarr, why not just meet the challenge presented? It only needed to be a minor hurdle for a fleet our size, not a great obstacle. Try looking inward more, to see what you could have done better, and how we could have better met the challenge, before complaining about unfairness. With the numbers we had, any complaint about unfairness on our part can only make us look weaker.

Cheers to the Periphery guys for providing a fun challenge for us. I hope that it can be an event that we learn from, a nudge in the direction of having more serious fleets with more capable ship doctrines and the logistics to have those ships and reships where we need them.

I get the sense that people are taking this too seriously, and also looking for somebody other than themselves to blame. Would our Minmatar fleet have taken the hub if opposition wasn't present? Yeah, certainly. But there was opposition. In the form of a single stabbed amarr executioner running plexes, who happeend to take the system out of vulnerable on us even, and maybe sixish pirate pilots.

With our fleet of 20-30 or more, and being so lose to a staging location, we should have been able to reship into something more serious, and to shut them down completely. But we didn't, we kept trying the same old thing, and we continued to lose pilots for it. What does this tell you? It tells me that we need a better capacity to ship up to the forces that might oppose us. We wouldn't have needed very much to do it. just the willingness to do it.

Instead of blaming Periphery, or accusing them of coordinating with Amarr, why not just meet the challenge presented? It only needed to be a minor hurdle for a fleet our size, not a great obstacle. Try looking inward more, to see what you could have done better, and how we could have better met the challenge, before complaining about unfairness. With the numbers we had, any complaint about unfairness on our part can only make us look weaker.

Cheers to the Periphery guys for providing a fun challenge for us. I hope that it can be an event that we learn from, a nudge in the direction of having more serious fleets with more capable ship doctrines and the logistics to have those ships and reships where we need them.

There isn't really a warzone anymore, and hasn't been for a few years now. FW is dead. Lobbing masses of frigates and destroyers at the other side is mind numbingly boring to us and something we tried to affect change on for a long time before leaving militia. To each their own though.

I read that entire paragraph as "FW is dead. FW remains dead. And we have killed it.".

It is a common theme that FW is the realm of low-level warfare. When vets want to start using shinier toys in battle and want bigger and better fights that are more strategic than frig-fests, they usually graduate to piracy.

How entitled the Minnies must be to feel 'betrayed' when ex-Minmatar shoot them. Good thing our loyal pets AD/DT continue to play nicely with us and squelch the dirty slaves :)

You guys should just do what Iron Oxide and a few other former MinMil groups did and join in with GalMil piling onto an overmatched and outnumbered CalMil. Get those good vibes again beating a dead horse in a wz quickly slanting to one militia, while squaring off regularly with the local pirates and watching the other militia wither and die.

Even better, I hear lp is way more lucrative in GalMil. So win win for everyone!

Well, not CalMil, but the Gals have given up the concern trolling about having a healthy opposing militia, happily enjoying bigger ship content against the pirate entities, while regularly taunting about CalMil "blobbing" and yet constantly upshipping above anything CalMil can bring in almost all situations. Not to mention complaining that CalMil doesn't live in the warzone, yet actively sieging and removing any attempt for us to do just that (for the most recent examples, look at Rakapas and currently Kehjari).

Im sure GalMil would love having you all with them!

It's too bad that most of our old friends decided to -10 and not even try to talk to us, when we're more than open to talking (cheers agha, not referring to you).