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Max Singularity
House Singularity
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:04:31 -
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In the old adage, "United we stand, divided we fall" did not take into account Capsuleers that rise again and again after the fall.
A lot of you shooting me, a lot of me shooting you. Nothing says I love you like a Killmail. Thus...
Divided we are strong through adversity. We need not ever agree. We fight for resorces and power.
BUT BUT BUT - What defines a 'good citizen' in Eve with all that above.
Redemption is a powerful word. But to some, words have no meanings. For me, actions are louder than words, but can an entire Coalition in Eve redeem itself and become Good Citizens?
Redemption [ri-demp-shuh n] noun 1. an act of redeeming or atoning for a fault or mistake, or the state of being redeemed. 2. deliverance; rescue. 3. Theology. deliverance from sin; salvation. 4. atonement for guilt. 5. repurchase, as of something sold. 6. paying off, as of a mortgage, bond, or note. 7. recovery by payment, as of something pledged.
This is certain. Change is upon us all. A storm within the fifth empire, is spilling into the other four. Like a Lobster placed in a pot of water we Capsuleers are only now feeling it getting warm. The Lore is in our face and soon it shall be boiling.
What defines a 'good citizen' in Eve?
Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden
-First of his name-
((My doctors try to tell me Eve is not real... pffft... I've seen the YouTube Video. Eve is Real))
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Paranoid Loyd
4695
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:09:27 -
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There is no good or bad, only predator and prey.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10734
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:11:51 -
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Max Singularity wrote:In the old adage, "United we stand, divided we fall" did not take into account Capsuleers that rise again and again after the fall.
A lot of you shooting me, a lot of me shooting you. Nothing says I love you like a Killmail. Thus...
Divided we are strong through adversity. We need not ever agree. We fight for resorces and power.
BUT BUT BUT - What defines a 'good citizen' in Eve with all that above.
Redemption is a powerful word. But to some, words have no meanings. For me, actions are louder than words, but can an entire Coalition in Eve redeem itself and become Good Citizens?
Redemption [ri-demp-shuh n] noun 1. an act of redeeming or atoning for a fault or mistake, or the state of being redeemed. 2. deliverance; rescue. 3. Theology. deliverance from sin; salvation. 4. atonement for guilt. 5. repurchase, as of something sold. 6. paying off, as of a mortgage, bond, or note. 7. recovery by payment, as of something pledged.
This is certain. Change is upon us all. A storm within the fifth empire, is spilling into the other four. Like a Lobster placed in a pot of water we Capsuleers are only now feeling it getting warm. The Lore is in our face and soon it shall be boiling.
What defines a 'good citizen' in Eve?
A good citizen is one who didn't smoke whatever it was you got a hold of this morning before you typed up this post
As to your question, people will show up here with all manner of subjective self serving answers that will amount to "what I do constitutes a good citizen". The truth is actually objective: A Good Citizen of New Eden is one who plays the game within the rules of the EULA no matter how loose some might consider those rules. That includes gankers, scammers, awoxxers, war deccers, null blob-lords, F1 monkeys, mission runners, afk miners , afk cloakers , carebears and all the rest.
CCP deals with the bad citizens by making them non-existant citizens. |
Freya Sertan
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:16:23 -
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Max Singularity wrote:In the old adage, "United we stand, divided we fall" did not take into account Capsuleers that rise again and again after the fall.
A lot of you shooting me, a lot of me shooting you. Nothing says I love you like a Killmail. Thus...
Divided we are strong through adversity. We need not ever agree. We fight for resorces and power.
BUT BUT BUT - What defines a 'good citizen' in Eve with all that above.
Redemption is a powerful word. But to some, words have no meanings. For me, actions are louder than words, but can an entire Coalition in Eve redeem itself and become Good Citizens?
Redemption [ri-demp-shuh n] noun 1. an act of redeeming or atoning for a fault or mistake, or the state of being redeemed. 2. deliverance; rescue. 3. Theology. deliverance from sin; salvation. 4. atonement for guilt. 5. repurchase, as of something sold. 6. paying off, as of a mortgage, bond, or note. 7. recovery by payment, as of something pledged.
This is certain. Change is upon us all. A storm within the fifth empire, is spilling into the other four. Like a Lobster placed in a pot of water we Capsuleers are only now feeling it getting warm. The Lore is in our face and soon it shall be boiling.
What defines a 'good citizen' in Eve?
"Good, bad... I'm the guy with the gun." A "good citizen" of New Eden does not exist. Every capsuleer does something another capsuleer finds appalling. We're all just shades of grey. |
Enya Sparhawk
Black Tea and Talons
48
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:24:14 -
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Max Singularity wrote: What defines a 'good citizen' in Eve?
They're the ones still alive when all the words are said and done...
Fíorghrá: Grá na fírinne
Déan gáire...Tiocfaidh ár lá
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Dots
State Protectorate Caldari State
62
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:34:08 -
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Good. Bad. I'm the one with the gun.
everything is better with ߦêߦÆߦù-ó on it
New Player Opportunities: a gallery
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2Sonas1Cup
72
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Posted - 2015.04.15 16:34:28 -
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Just like in life, there is no good citizen or bad citizen,.. good or bad is only a matter of perception in the whole universe.
A supernova completely destroys entire galaxies and its pure nature, do you consider it good or bad? Be careful what you choose, remember its nature. If there is no such a thing as good or bad in nature, why are you trying to make us all put stamp on something as good or bad? Keep it for you because its only relevant within you.
The closest even though still far away of being a good citizen, is when you do what you want and are truthful towards everything and everyone around you, destroying them or helping them. |
Claudia Osyn
Minmatar Confederate Ushra'Khan
1154
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Posted - 2015.04.15 17:43:08 -
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I, Claudia, the goddess of the IGS, decrees that there is no good or evil. Only the divine chaos, a state of being that is the embodiment of my will and glorious plans.
The lack of money is the root of all evil.
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
6039
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Posted - 2015.04.15 17:48:52 -
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Aww, I was expecting some CFC morphs into Imperium propaganda.
I am disappoint.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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DaReaper
Net 7
1936
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Posted - 2015.04.15 18:24:33 -
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We are not 'citizens' thats a different game.
I reject yoru definition of good and bad, as there is no good or bad, just humans being human. Good and bad is a matter of perception
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Jenshae Chiroptera
1335
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Posted - 2015.04.15 19:36:48 -
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Go quietly amid the noise and the haste, Avoid loud and aggressive persons for they bring drama, Listen for the newbie with the brain worth cultivating, Prepare for the enemy's onslaught, Attack thine enemy from the front, Crushing them and showing them the might of right is behind you, Allow the industrial to pass in peace, and the miner to go about his quiet toiling in the belts.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Max Singularity
House Singularity
12
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Posted - 2015.04.15 20:16:49 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Go quietly amid the noise and the haste, Avoid loud and aggressive persons for they bring drama, Listen for the newbie with the brain worth cultivating, Prepare for the enemy's onslaught, Attack thine enemy from the front, Crushing them and showing them the might of right is behind you, Allow the industrial to pass in peace, and the miner to go about his quiet toiling in the belts.
I like it. Blessed be the elevated minds.
Harbinger of Faith his Holiness Maximilian Singularity of the Sixth Empire, Pope of New Eden
-First of his name-
((My doctors try to tell me Eve is not real... pffft... I've seen the YouTube Video. Eve is Real))
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Mario Putzo
1185
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Posted - 2015.04.15 22:39:47 -
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Someone who generates content that is either positive or negative depending on your association and opinion of said content. Sometime the best people in the game are the ones who don't even realize they are generating content for other people.
All those folks who die in belts everyday to CODE. are the real heroes of EVE, they provide unending content to a select group of people, they embody the entire spirit of EVE. |
Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1578
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:34:02 -
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A good citizen recognizes the True Emperor when he graces the forum. Of that, I am sure
Don't get lost alone - Join Signal Cartel, New Eden's premier haven for explorers!
Onward to Thera with Eve Scout
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Paranoid Loyd
4720
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:39:45 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:A good citizen recognizes the True Emperor when he graces the forum. Of that, I am sure Heh, this was pretty funny.
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!!!
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
1578
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:44:26 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:A good citizen recognizes the True Emperor when he graces the forum. Of that, I am sure Heh, this was pretty funny.
Hood Bee might be my favorite version of Fat Bee
Don't get lost alone - Join Signal Cartel, New Eden's premier haven for explorers!
Onward to Thera with Eve Scout
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
12628
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Posted - 2015.04.15 23:57:21 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:A good citizen recognizes the True Emperor when he graces the forum. Of that, I am sure Heh, this was pretty funny. Hood Bee might be my favorite version of Fat Bee
Beez 2, Back in Da Hood.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10743
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:10:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:A good citizen recognizes the True Emperor when he graces the forum. Of that, I am sure Heh, this was pretty funny. Hood Bee might be my favorite version of Fat Bee Beez 2, Back in Da Hood.
Hood Bees Delivered
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
35928
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:20:16 -
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I give this thread a 2 page rating.
It'll be 2 pages before this thread turns into a discussion of carebears v gankers.
Aside from that, I have no clue what a good citizen is, but I hope I'm not one.
I'm good all day long outside Eve, so it's the last thing I want to be when I login to the game. Burn everyone and everything, me included - if you like this philosophy, join Vendo. We don't burn each other.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23628
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:33:37 -
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^^Something to bear in mind.
Olaf the Hairy, high chief of all the vikings wrote:Now remember lads, loot first, carrying burning loot is hard
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9333
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:51:01 -
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Paranoid Loyd wrote:There is no good or bad, only predator and prey. those you be good/bad at,
im bad at being prey...i keep killing and eating things.
Lords.Of.Midnight now recruiting
Steamy hot small gang action is waiting for you.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
23631
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Posted - 2015.04.16 00:56:43 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:There is no good or bad, only predator and prey. those you be good/bad at, im bad at being prey...i keep killing and eating things. I'm good at making sure other people are easier prey than I am, does that count?
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Kenneth Endashi
Atomic Pharmaceuticals
62
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Posted - 2015.04.16 01:13:44 -
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DaReaper wrote:We are not 'citizens' thats a different game.
I reject yoru definition of good and bad, as there is no good or bad, just humans being human. Good and bad is a matter of perception
We aren't even human. We are clones. |
Relta
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.04.16 01:15:42 -
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I judge the quality of a citizen of eve by the mark the leave on eve. If someone was to miss you if you stop logging on then you are a good eve citizen. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
1342
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Posted - 2015.04.16 01:16:31 -
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Kenneth Endashi wrote:We aren't even human. We are clones. I am an AI that remote controls the meat bag via a neural implant. I laugh when it screams and dies as the pod is blown up.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
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High Sec needs a stepping stone to other areas of space, where they can grow
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1516
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:01:04 -
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Relta wrote:I judge the quality of a citizen of eve by the mark the leave on eve. If someone was to miss you if you stop logging on then you are a good eve citizen. When I stopped logging in, I was missed by a handful of my fellow sociopath scumbags. I feel warm and fuzzy now knowing that I'm a good citizen.
Who put the goat in there?
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Relta
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.04.16 02:12:36 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Relta wrote:I judge the quality of a citizen of eve by the mark the leave on eve. If someone was to miss you if you stop logging on then you are a good eve citizen. When I stopped logging in, I was missed by a handful of my fellow sociopath scumbags. I feel warm and fuzzy now knowing that I'm a good citizen. All is far in love in war. I believe someone who interacts with other players in a meaningful way (even it is high sec ganking or trade hub scamming) is a better eve citizen then someone who just sticks to high sec ratting by him self and never goes and talks or other wise interacts with people other then buy new ships and modules with his isk and selling loot. |
Zealous Miner
123
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Posted - 2015.04.16 03:34:23 -
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Max Singularity wrote:What defines a 'good citizen' in Eve?
A 'good citizen' is someone who would sell me those fancy duds you're wearing, Max.
www.minerbumping.com
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
1033
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Posted - 2015.04.16 03:40:08 -
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be awesome! don't be a ****. And remember out of game we are all friends!
@ChainsawPlankto
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Avaelica Kuershin
24
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Posted - 2015.04.16 04:14:08 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Paranoid Loyd wrote:There is no good or bad, only predator and prey. those you be good/bad at, im bad at being prey...i keep killing and eating things. What does trying to make sure other people are easier prey than I come under?
Don't have to do anything special to ensure others are easier prey... I used to worry about making my fits perfect until I started seeing fits on killmails that made me cringe with embarrassment on their part.
A good citizen of EvE keeps the game going. or
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